Basically everyone is going to see something different going on with Gerard Way. The difference shows is when you can tell people are seeing what they want to see. Do I want to see Gerard Way fail? No. He's a human being, I don't want to see any human being fail. I'm seeing it anyway though. It's when you can see past what you'd like to see that you get closer to the truth. We know what we know. And there are a few of us who don't need pictures to prove anything.
Even if I hadn't heard the things I've heard though, from people who know Gerard and are concerned over him, I understand more than I want to understand about addicts and their behavior. I lived with one for a loooong time. I know the signs and I can recognize them from thousands of miles away.
People are saying I am so angry because I either love Gerard or hate him. The truth is neither. I used to respect him, that's all. I thought what he was doing for young people was awesome and very much needed. Now he is going against that and I can see how it's going to hurt not only him, but it's going to crush what was a great band and it's going to frustrate (and worse!) a lot of the kids who look up to him. Gerard always said, MCR is more than a band, they are there to save your life. You can't "save the lives" of a bunch of teenagers and then walk away from them because you're trying to impress a new crowd. Once you take on that mantle of responsibility, sorry charlie, it's yours for good.
So these sad little teenie commenters on my blog are trying to set up a web page for people who "aren't real fans" as if that's going to make a bit of difference in anyone's lives but their own. I'll be glad to be on it, because even though I loved what MCR used to be, I would not even associate myself as a "fan" of them with the way things currently are. Either way Gerard will laugh at it like he's laughing at all of this. That's what you do when you're in that much denial over your own life, you laugh off other people's concern as well as their scorn.
These teenie fans are accused of being "brutal" to me on my blog. Yes, it's true, they are saying lots of personal stuff and being unreasonable and pulling their hair out in frustration and anger etc. But I get that it's just because I'm brutal. And I'm brutal because the truth is poison. Poison, but still very much the truth.
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Going to "fans" or rallying "fans" to push them to DISrespect Gerard as you now do is a selfish, personal grudge of an attempt.
You call people who give you a hard time teenie and what not. But verita, it is better for you to get over the fact that the band has changed. The band will change and the band may not be forever. No where did Gerard/mcr promise to spend the rest of their lives holding your favor.
It is more teenie to promote such a microscopic and private aspect of what may be Gerard's life. You do so because you are hurt. Not because you are worried for him. You are worried that you will be left without him. Just because there are fans who choose to enjoy what's left of Mcr and NOT dwell on it's end doesn't make them blind. It makes them fans.
I am sure there are fans who hold the same worry about Gerard as you do but they do so because they wish to see him better as a PERSON not as the front man of their hearts, while you express a shallow yearning for the band that USED to be.
Gerard will move on to other things and there is something you need to know about the Voluptuosity that you claim to be a worshiper of a fangirl. In her letter she let me know a piece of what she wrote to Gerard after you claimed she worshiped him...
(She's SO convinced that I can see no wrong in Gerard. Well, if she only knew. If she only knew that in the letter I gave him I wrote this sentence...
I wish you the best of anything your heart desires and hope you never have to face a dark so fierce that you lose yourself again.
I ALSO told him I wished he would stop smoking. Now would I say those things if I were some head over hell. Foot in mouth fangirl? I don't think so.)
Just because fans don't agree to make him less of a man because he may succumb to mistakes WE ALL make doesn't make them ignorant to any truth. The Gerard we all grew to love and know may always be in danger.
I personally feel that no one who comes from that much pain and self abuse will ever be okay. I have had my own experiences.
The point is this... undermining him is not what he needs to get better. Turning fans into non-supporters is not what he needs to get better. Whatever he has gone through off stage he has still sucked it up enough to get back ON stage. You should respect that.
...and may I just add, setting off a flare gun for the world to see how he MAY be messing up isn't the best course of action to take. There are people who NEVER cared for Gerard or Mcr who are LOOKING for such an opening to lynch mob.
There has been enough rumors going around before these and you will just give the "haters 'o' million" the fuel they need to burn him down even quicker. Perhaps give that "not so informative journal" another read.
Be careful how you go about this. It may lead to a public bashing of Gerard/Mcr that there will have be resurfacing from. E! True Hollywood stories are never happy ones, now are they?
This is the last that I am going to say and then I am removing myself from this battle of words.
I know what I know, I know what I have seen with my own two eyes, I know what is rumour and what is not. I also know who I am and that I am not a hater (I wouldn't give two shits about this whole situation if I was). My feelings have nothing to do with jealousy, after what I have witnessed in person you couldn't pay me to marry that man, he'd be much to difficult to live with. But I do love him as a friend, always have. I just want him to get the help that he needs and if I lose a favorite band, so be it. I'm not out to get him, no one that I know is out to get him (even if he thinks that himself), I just want him to get better. I don't want MCR to become a Behind the Music story (quoting GWay here) "And then everything collapsed. I didn't want that to happen."
As to voluptuosity, I could care less.
I'm done with this discussion, so I am stepping of the carousel.
*off of
Yes, bands change, some for the better, some for the worse. THis band is changing not only for the worse, but they are selling out.
Sorry, you can't convince me that Voluptuousity is anything other than a frothing fangirl. She asked him to stop smoking, big deal.
I disagree that just sucking up to him and kissing his ass is going to help him. That's called "enabling." When you're falling apart and thousands of people are cheering you on, you start to think it's OK to fall apart.
So what if the public bashes him? Big deal. His ego could be deflated as it is. Addicts get super-confident and when they have thousands of people up their ass about how great they are and they start to believe it, it can be a deadly combination. Maybe getting his ass kicked verbally in public will wake him up.
But you people like him so much better when he's asleep, so, there you go.
veritavenom, I love you!
Who the fuck is veritavenom anyway? How does he/she know the band?
Well anyway, you make a lot of sense VV. I hate the way those people are on buzznet, there are threads about how big Gerard's dick is and if that doesn't tell you the mentality of those people, nothing will.
Verita, your worlds are harsh but spoken with reality, and my interpretation is that you do care. Mcrmada and volptuosity, in the adult world people get called out all the time. I don't agree with your opinions but I see you as caring people with good intentions. I give you this quote " with privilege comes responsibility", he needs to wake up.
Even the most sensible arguments wouldn't allow veriavenom to pull her head out of her ass or any other heads for that matter. Whoever supports such a stubborn, stuck up, head strong ass of a blogger deserves to be misled. Have fun with this.
truthseeker said...
Verita, your worlds are harsh but spoken with reality, and my interpretation is that you do care. Mcrmada and volptuosity, in the adult world people get called out all the time. I don't agree with your opinions but I see you as caring people with good intentions. I give you this quote " with privilege comes responsibility", he needs to wake up.
September 22, 2007 4:45 PM
And if verita doesn't feel responsible enough to protect Gerard form any further hate due to her own stubborn beliefs then that tells enough of her "supposed care". It is non-existent and she's proud of it.
If you people can sit here and agree that it's okay to try and destroy peoples faith in the music based on non-musical points then not only are you NOT worried for Gerard as you've defended; but you are a fool for thinking you can convince people you are worried about him.
mcrmada said...
truthseeker said...
Verita, your worlds are harsh but spoken with reality, and my interpretation is that you do care. Mcrmada and volptuosity, in the adult world people get called out all the time. I don't agree with your opinions but I see you as caring people with good intentions. I give you this quote " with privilege comes responsibility", he needs to wake up.
September 22, 2007 4:45 PM
And if verita doesn't feel responsible enough to NOT protect Gerard form any further hate due to her own stubborn beliefs then that tells enough of her "supposed care". It is non-existent and she's proud of it.
If you people can sit here and agree that it's okay to try and destroy peoples faith in the music based on non-musical points then not only are you NOT worried for Gerard as you've defended; but you are a fool for thinking you can convince people you are worried about him.
truthseeker said...
Verita, your worlds are harsh but spoken with reality, and my interpretation is that you do care. Mcrmada and volptuosity, in the adult world people get called out all the time. I don't agree with your opinions but I see you as caring people with good intentions. I give you this quote " with privilege comes responsibility", he needs to wake up.
September 22, 2007 4:45 PM
Wow. You're more blind then anyone here. Just because YOU or VERITA gave him the privilege of being number 1 and Mr. Do NO Wrong doesn't mean he has to take on that responsibility. ...idiot.
verutavenom said,
Yes, bands change, some for the better, some for the worse. THis band is changing not only for the worse, but they are selling out.
Sorry, you can't convince me that Voluptuousity is anything other than a frothing fangirl. She asked him to stop smoking, big deal.
I disagree that just sucking up to him and kissing his ass is going to help him. That's called "enabling." When you're falling apart and thousands of people are cheering you on, you start to think it's OK to fall apart.
So what if the public bashes him? Big deal. His ego could be deflated as it is. Addicts get super-confident and when they have thousands of people up their ass about how great they are and they start to believe it, it can be a deadly combination. Maybe getting his ass kicked verbally in public will wake him up.
But you people like him so much better when he's asleep, so, there you go.
September 22, 2007 4:21 PM
1. No one can convince you of anything that you choose to be immature about.
(she said more than stop smoking) But you're the type of person to ignore points that make you look like a moron.
2.Like mcrmada said, you wish harm upon him but you are NO ONE to decide how harsh of love Gerard deserves. You are an egotistical hater. And you are no better than all those teenies who believe Gerard to sleep on a cloud of perfection and bubble gum. Just because your motives are different that doesn't make you any less obsessive than the teenies you hate so much.
3. I like him better when he's happy and NO ONE here can show anything other than WHAT THEY THINK not what is. So get over yourself and relieve these people of your mindless rage, verita.
DAMN VERITA, are you blind. HATER!!!
I wish you the best of anything your heart desires and hope you never have to face a dark so fierce that you lose yourself again.
~
Sounds like she put Gerard on to the fact that she's worried about him more than he may realize of his fans. Wtf is your problem? Stop hating.
I for one have never seen Gerard more naturally happy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcuknurFG1I&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebuzznet%2Ecom%2Ftags%2Fmychemicalromance%2Fforum%2Ftopics%2F9524%2F%3Flast%3D1%26R%3D1801962427
Gerard put himself and his band on the pedestal with all their talk of changing the world and saving lives. Or did you miss that part?
Of course you didn't. You're just in so much denial that you don't want to see how bad things are at the moment. So when people point out the obvious, all you have is "OMG U HATER!!!!11" and "OMGz UR JEllUSS!!!!11"
The typical fangirl cries of denial in every single case.
veritavenom said...
Gerard put himself and his band on the pedestal with all their talk of changing the world and saving lives. Or did you miss that part?
Of course you didn't. You're just in so much denial that you don't want to see how bad things are at the moment. So when people point out the obvious, all you have is "OMG U HATER!!!!11" and "OMGz UR JEllUSS!!!!11"
The typical fangirl cries of denial in every single case.
September 22, 2007 6:04 PM
...or, ORRR you're in denial that you don't know everything... pathetic. Maybe your crystal balls are broken! LOL
@veritavenom
I recall several interviews where Gerard spoke of how he started the band to save HIS life. Yes, after the band got off the ground and he saw the good he was doing, he classified it as a life saving band, but that was from his own experience.
Maybe you'd be interested in the link to that video?
Step off of YOUR pedestal and reevaluate the situation or do you believe any old net head who claims to know the band ACTUALLY does? ...sad.
Maybe getting his ass kicked verbally in public will wake him up.
Oh do not worry. That is something I am planning on doing as soon as I see Gerard again. Sometimes, in order for you to want to save or help your loved ones from their own self, you have to show them some tough love
mcrmada, I agree with everything you've said.
@BLEEDINGCHAOS
Maybe Worm kicking your ass in public and the video will get up on youtube so I can watch it a gazillion times. LMAO
So you don't need pictures to prove anything other than the ones in your head?
You claim to notice addict qualities about Gerard's behavior... So does that mean you're his next door neighbor or partially insane?
wtf, you do not even know me so do not waste your time throwing useless insults at me. It is not going to work no matter if you want to insult someone over the internet that you do not know.
..the fact that you're not tied down to your bed and away from the computer is poison.
It's amazing how gullible you expect people to be. You were never a My Chem or Gerard Way fan and you're just trying to inch your way into some sadistic victory.
Mcr fans identify with one another and you seriously need to get over yourself. Go burn a mcr poster like the other retards do and have sweet dreams.
BLEEDING, no one here knows Gerard but you talk of verbally assaulting him in public based on your theories? GO FUCK YOURSELF. If my insults don't bother you then why mention it. Crying yet?
Curious tho bleeding, what would you say to him exactly? Would every sentence start with, "Veritavenom said"...?
Oh, you expect that I'd verbally assault him? That is not how I work, dear one. I do know for a fact that if you verbally attack someone out front, they will shut themselves off. I took psychology, I know how it works. I just do not like the fact that people cannot express their opinions because alot of them fear of being persecuted by girls possibly half their age. Have you not forgotting that this is a country where Freedom of Speech reign? People *are going to have opinions that differ from yours and if you are a music fan, you will understand that. Like I mentioned before, no one is forcing a gun to your head to visit Verita's page. That is why free will was created and it seems that some of you do not understand that. Think before you speak. That is all I have to say.
Seriously though, if I had the chance to meet Gerard again, I'd ask him,"Why are you doing all of this?" Not harshly, but out of curiousity. If you want to know, some of the information Verita knows are things that I knew and know of weeks and months before I knew of her existence. If you knew insider informtation, the first thing you would do is never reveal their identity, for fear that the band might discover the "mole" so to say. Why do you think they never revealed the IP address of that anon letter? I prefer that the fans themselves seek out the truth when it is the right time to reveal it.
You don't like being persecuted by someone younger then you? Then blame that on Verita for trying to make a nerve wreck out of the already underdeveloped, highly emotional teenage girls of the Gerard Way forum. It's obvious some people don't take kindly to someone trying to use a piece of our mcrmy. They may be young and reckless but they are still apart of MCR love.
No one forced a gun to Veritas head and made her call anyone who saw even a tad differently from her, dick suckers and blind idol worshipers. All verita has proven to me is how much of a sick, sad, cult state of mind she is in. It's okay to voice her opinions and make people believe but when people have a set of their own beliefs to imply she becomes deaf. Real nice...
O and why is he doing WHAT exactly? O_0
y R people pissed that sum people dont agree with verita? Stop acting like a bunch of old farts!
My thoughts exactly, Duh. People are going to have different opinions, it does not matter if you cannot agree with them. It has always been that way when it comes to discussing a variety of topics. At least that's what I think.
Well, your leader resorts to calling people blind, ignorant and worshipers whenever they disagree with her points. Someone NOT open minded isn't the one to bring down Gerard. She is set on convincing everyone that the worse is all there is to realize and thats not all there may be. She refuses to accept that and I don't see how you or anyone else can give your attention to such a person...
wtf, Verita cannot change anyone's mind. Only, not everybody thinks the way you do. And by the way, why did you change your name?
Follow me, my hordes! LMAO. God, these teenies and their melodrama. Hey, do we all get our own matching outfits? I mean, since we are a cult and all. We'll call ourselves, The Cult Of People Disappointed In A Pop Star We Used To Think Was Cool.
Ooooh, that sounds so sinister!
When you're falling apart and thousands of people are cheering you on, you start to think it's OK to fall apart
I could not agree more
Change my name? I did no such thing.
It's amazing how verita thinks she is actually getting somewhere with a mere 2 or 3 companions. I guess the majority of these replies shows how far this whole thing will go, doesn't it? Not very far. You 3 or 4 like sitting here and pulling what ifs out of your ass uninterrupted? Then go about it and STAY AWAY FROM BUZZNET...unless you're confident enough to take on the mcr forums this time, Verita. ;)Being that you're not, you won't be missed.
O and if so many people were agreeing with you on BN then where are all the replies in your favor, your highness? ...by highness I am of course referring to "PUT THAT PIPE DOWN!"
As for the rest of you on her side, I am saddened to see your lack of intelligence and respect. You all wish to call out Gerard Way like some monster? Well, mcrmada put it quite nicely. He doesn't need anyone coming at him with pitchforks and slit wrist (VERITA) He needs to know that he has friends who TRULY care for him and TRULY wish him well, ya know like Voluptuosity.
No one here has the right to say how the situation should be handled IF there is a situation at all. Somewhere you got it fixated that you know what is best for a man you never met?!! GET A LIFE. MAKE SOME REAL FRIENDS. Let go of the Gerard you were never going to have IN THE FIRST PLACE. Live and let live. Get another hobby. Get another fav. band. Let kids support whoever the hell they want.
Barney touched little kids and still gets support. Gerard MAY make mistakes in life and thats more acceptable then how some famous individuals ACTUALLY fuck up.
You've cried so much over this that you want to get him back. Well, I highly suggest you seek some therapy since you feel the musical therapy of MCR is no longer of any value. Please do, before it's too late.
You speak of fan girl this and fan girl that. What would you call someone as obsessed over what Gerard does and doesn't do as much as you are, Verita?
If any of you are really veritas friends, then maybe provide some of that age old advice she so obviously needs and you claim to have.
You truly do hate this man because the way you behave is not at all in the message of the music. Or do you think acting like some mighty, proud, vain, over zealous, diva brings you closer to the Gerard you CLAIM to hate so? Hmmm...sounds like you wish to mirror the "supposed persona" of this man even without seeing it. *sigh*
Comment deleted? Awww, poor pathetic you. ;)
ANYONE HERE REPRESENTING THE BUZZNET MCRMY PULL OUT!. Let's leave these 3 to their warped reality...
wft, this is not about hating him, it's about hypocrisy. How can he now represent this message? It's like Hinder saying they stand for feminism. Additionally, he needs help for his current mental state.
vv is just speaking the fucking truth!
Yes, bands change, some for the better, some for the worse. THis band is changing not only for the worse, but they are selling out.
when i said that on buzznet, i got ripped to shreds!!
If you Buzznet and INO people are coming here just to attack Verita, find a new hobby. Go back to your own 'internetz' world and talk about whatever you want. Not everybody sees things the same way you do, and we're just as entitled to our opinions as you are to yours. You're coming here solely to call anyone who agrees with VV 'haters', 'anti-MCR', 'hurting the fandom'. The fandom can take care of itself -- if the teenage fans are upset by what they read on Verita's blog, no one is forcing them to read it. The same goes for BleedingChaos, Mayo, Love Man, or anyone else. We'll feel how we feel, and nothing you say or do is going to change that.
Get a grip, people -- these blogs are OPINIONS and OBSERVATIONS only. If you don't agree with them, you're free to fucking go somewhere else.
Honestly, the blind faith people hold for this man makes me sick. The man pukes on stage, and you cheer him on. And 'turning fans into non-supporters' -- would you like a brain with that? Neither Verita or anybody else are trying to turn anyone against ANYTHING. It's her blog, her opinion, and she can say whatever she damn well wants. Again, if you don't like what she posts, get back to BN or INO and play with the rest of the fankids.
WTF said:
"BLAHBLAHBLAHBLHA WAAHHHH!!!! HATERZ LEAVE GERARD ALONE!!!11 HEHAS A BIG CROTCH WE WUB HIM!!! VERITAVENOM IS MEEEEEAN!!!"
*yawn*
come off it WTF,i think youre the one that needs to grow up, sometimes people need to hear the reality of a situation so that it can help them,-thats was a true friend or fan is (perhaps you dont have any of those?)- and if someone is brave enough to say it then they do not deserve to be shot down.
and verita i believe you have more than a couple of people backing you up - its just those who cant handle honesty dont want to see that - a little bit like our Mr.Way dont you think?
sticks and stones my dears
@SisterMidnite
Opinions are cool and all but your saint Verita, dresses them up like fact so she can string along innocent individuals. She brought this on herself. Blind faith has nothing to do with it.
Gerard's dirty laundry (made up or real) is NO ONES business to air out. The fans know he's capable of fuck ups. Just because we don't see that as reason to piss on him on the net doesn't mean we're blind idol worshipers. It's mutual fucking respect.
He's touched people where they view him as the friend they never had. Would you like it if any of your friends did this shit to you? I don't think so. No one worships him like a God. He's on the same level as us and that's why we connect and defend him so much. So deal with it...
We can handle honesty just fucking fine. We handled it when Gerard was an alcoholic. We handled it when we knew he was obsessed with death maybe on a dangerous level. Gerard is no saint and never has been. But cheering on a person who SAYS she cares when all she's out for is getting back at Gerard because he let her down are 2 different things. You give this unstable, mental case, Verita TOO much fucking credit. She shows no love or respect for him. Just because he MAY be down in the dumps and MAY have contradicted himself doesn't make it okay to treat him like he's a piece of shit!
would you rather her sugar coat what she feels? would that make it easier to swallow?
@Anon at 8:23
No one is airing his dirty laundry. So people are saying that the marriage caught them by surprise, and that marrying somebody you dated for 7 weeks is weird. He's a big boy, I'm sure he can deal with it. That's if he had time to even see it, which I highly doubt.
Because he's a singer in a band, the entire fanbase owes him love & respect? If that's your belief, fine. You can defend him all you want. But why come here and rag on someone for posting a different point of view?
We haven't had any fighting going on here, until now. Even if we don't agree with each other, we don't attack the poster. You speak of mutual respect, but I don't see any of it here.
LOL
1. Sugar coat how SHE feels? hahaha I don't care enough to answer that. My whole point is, she's feeding you all what SHE WANTS YOU TO FEEL. She sits there and types and says to herself, "After they read this they'll hate Gerard for sure!!" ...O_0 HELLO! She wants you to disrespect him for the same reasons she does or is prepared to do. A few of you who back her have not once put her in her place. Where have you told her to have a little more respect for the man that saved MY life and others? No one who really cares for Gerard would sit there like some crash dummy and say "GO VERITA GO!" Get fucking real.
2.I feel he deserves love and respect because I respect him for what he's done for me more than anyone I know. If you guys don't know mcr/Gerard from album 1 then your opinions are shit. Why rag on a different point of view? Because her point of view is that Gerard doesn't deserve anything. If thats how you feel then keep applauding. If not, then make your own fucking blog and piss on Verita like SHE deserves. I don't support a poster who goes around portraying things as repulsive and disgusting facts about Gerard. That's not her place. Ever occur to you that we have the same thoughts you do but just know a MCR HATER when we see one? She may fool you but she doesn't fool me. Read in between the fucking lines! It sucks that you are so afraid of this Verita that you not once stood up for Gerard. So fuck you to.
those of us 'supporting verita' may or may not agree with what she says but we dont go about saying this like ... wait what was it?
'piss on Verita like SHE deserves'
that is just a childish uniformative thing to say, honestly, get the fuck over youself. We support verita BECAUSE she has the guts to say what she wants, and not get put off by what loser like you spam her comment wall with. youre opinion is welcome just dont slander hers or anyone elses for that matter.
@smokeandmirrors
So you support a Gerard Way hater then? FUCK U TOO! Her opinion is shit because it has no basis other than the fact that she's a non-independent baby who's all pissed because she doesn't believe in Gerard anymore. GERARD was never up for grabs honey! The music was SO GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT, Verita. And the rest of you find your own balls and stop cheering this mcr hater on. wtf is wrong with you?!
O I see. So verita thinks that Gerard was supposed to say the same way forever. WOW! Hate to break this to ya babe but Gerard is NOT FUCKING PETER PAN. HE'S A REAL BOY! LMAO Get a therapist before you fall even deeper into your psycho babble. Grow a spine for christ sake. Time to grow up little miss...
i support anyone with an opinion and the balls to step out of conformity. 'fuck you too' what a lovely sentiment, you make me chuckle.
O and SMOKEANDMIRRORS, the piss on verita comment wasn't what you were supposed to say, dear. It's what you're supposed to do. See the difference? She needs help beyond any pat on the back she gives herself for getting to you so why not advise that before she's 30 and can't even wipe her own ass!
Step out of conformity? Sounds like Gerard. Sounds like all the people who support him at the risk of being called suicidal, emo, death cult, fags. Suck her tits all you like but don't chop off Gerard's dick because she says so...idiot!
you are beginning to bore me, so i suggest coming up with something new.
Then you must have a.d.d smokeandmirrors. The bottom line is this, you can't say you care for, are worried for Gerard and support someone like Verita. Doesn't work hand in hand. So why not give that mcr c.d a last listen before decidIng whose side your on. Get it got it PEACE.
YOu crazed Gerard worshippers who are calling some chick crazy, mental and evil because she is calling him out, you guys are fucking scary. You're the ones who are going to end up as stalkers. If not of people who might hate your beloved pop superstar, than of the pop superstar himself.
Why the fuck do you care if someone hates a person that you like? Holy fuck, what is wrong with you? Even if she did hate him... so what? I'm sure he doesn't need or want a bunch of loonies defending him!
You Buzznet MCRmy people have the worst grammar and spelling ever. Just had to say it.
Why does a band need an army anyway? Does any other band have one?
I think the MCRmy scare him more, than the so called "haters".
You're all morons. Follow Gerard or follow Verita? Let me think... I follow myself and I think I'll love the band for the music and how it's touched me. If Gerard wants to go to shit then boo hoo for him but why the fuck are you all sitting around waiting for him to fuck up? That's just crazy.
Gerard made the MCRmy so unclench your ass.
No. MCR has the most die hard fans ever....obviously.
papperheartxx everyones version of selling out is different and I disagree with both you and verita.
If Gerard made the MCRmy, he must have thought it was a good way to sell more records.
'MCR hater' and 'fuck you, too'.
How mature.
You think people are agreeing with VV because we're scared of her? Maybe on YOUR fansites, kiddo. Here, we say what we want. If you don't agree, go back to BN or INO. Not that you'll listen, because - oh, that's right - we're not giving Gerard the respect he deserves. "You had to be a fan since Bullets to..." blah, blah, blah. I'll think how I want and like what I want, thank you very much. I don't need someone half my age telling me what's right or wrong.
If MCR saved your life, go and live it. Leave the rest of us to ours.
And people wonder why I've never had children.
Wow. I am stunned at the rabid "MCRmy" babies that are frothing at the mouth and spewing venomous rubbish all over this place. All of this because someone disagrees with their 'perfect' view of their idol? Pathetic. Get over it, kiddies, the world is full of people who have perspectives and opinions that will differ from yours. Deal with it. And what I am finding the most amusing is that these rabid crazies are telling the calm, rational people to get psychiatric help. Good one! Not to mention, the one's throwing around the "hater" comments are the ones filled with the most hate (and the worst spelling). I have an idea. Why don't you little girls pick up your dollies and go back home to INO or BN or whatever gushy, "OMGee" board you came from; to continue your mindless chatter about who is the 'very bestest bestest fan/asskisser ever' or how 'Gerard has a big...' and leave the adults to their peaceful conversations. So long and goodnight.
Too true Sister Midnite
And what I am finding the most amusing is that these rabid crazies are telling the calm, rational people to get psychiatric help. Good one! Not to mention, the one's throwing around the "hater" comments are the ones filled with the most hate (and the worst spelling). I have an idea. Why don't you little girls pick up your dollies and go back home to INO or BN or whatever gushy, "OMGee" board you came from; to continue your mindless chatter about who is the 'very bestest bestest fan/asskisser ever' or how 'Gerard has a big...' and leave the adults to their peaceful conversations. So long and goodnight.
Three Cheers for this anonymous post. I love you. I do find it hilarious that some of these hormonous, overactive imaginative children half our age are telling us calm, *sane*, level-headed adults that we need to go visit a shrink. All of you kids make me giggle and I almost guarantee that Gerard admires kids who prefer to hate his music than have children sucking up and kissing his ass. He mentioned something like that once.
By the way, some of you need to learn how to spell check and redo some of your grammar.
the funny thing is that you guys are referring to them as children and I think some are the older mother nazi fans at buzznet
compare their posts at both places
maturity has no age
I think we broke verita. hahahahahaha
O and if all you asses have to say is we're immature then get back to work before your boss catches you dealing with such ADOLESCENT affairs. -_-
Frankly, I find these arguments that many of you present to be humorous and quite laughable because many of you take the time to post arguments against Verita just because her opinions do not match yours. As music fans you should respect the fact that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and output, even if you do not entirely agree with them. We do have Freedom of Speech remember? Or maybe some of you require that you need to endure another history lesson concerning our Bill of Rights and the U.S. Constitution perhaps?
To the last anonymous post, you may not realize it, but you *are* acting immature just by replying with a "hahahaha."
the funny thing is that you guys are referring to them as children and I think some are the older mother nazi fans at buzznet
I am aware that, agewise, some of them are not kids, but in terms of how they are behaving they are acting like little kids. So my comments still stand, the children need to go home.
@BLEEDING
my haha's just show I'm having a good time...idiot. -_-
We take the time to post against Verita because she shamelessly refers to ANYONE who supports Gerard as idol worshipers, blind and dick suckers. Or did you miss that part. I don't insult anyone for not agreeing with me and she should have the same common courtesy. So check yourself BLEEDING.
The adults need to get a life and stop waiting for Gerard Way to fall on his ass. WTF is wrong with you all. I SMELL M.A.H.R! Knew it! Pathetic...
We take the time to post against Verita because she shamelessly refers to ANYONE who supports Gerard as idol worshipers, blind and dick suckers. Or did you miss that part.
BN and INO people, you're taking all of this COMPLETELY out of context. A lot of the fandom *is* blind -- their hero can do no wrong. Verita points out her opinion, and you attack her and everyone who supports her for believing as they do. Dick suckers? Do you actually stay awake at night to make this stuff up? Or did you take your inspiration from the "Gerard has a big..." thread?
The ADULTS are simply discussing the childish behavior of another adult, who is more than old enough to know better. If you can't handle that, why are you still here?
Oh, and one last thing -- you could have the courtesy to save your 'hahaha's/LOLZ/internetz' chat garbage for the other forums. Around here, we use English. If you wish to speak among the 'adults', you could at least have the decency to keep the high-school grammar to a minimum.
@sistermidnite
No I don't make it up. It's on buzznet if you really care to know.
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veritavenom: 09/15/2007 8:57 PM
You people who are sucking Gerard's ass are so funny. Sad though.
He's human...a sad, mixed up, arrogant, hypocritical human... but you people are making him into a god.
He's brought this whole band down, and it's sad, because they used to be good for something.
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She edited the dick part but it shows much, yes?
Nowhere have I said that I see Gerard as perfect and incapable of doing wrong because I don't feel that way. Just because there are people who disagree with Verita that doesn't make them fan-girls, as she so eloquently put it. -_-
We don't sit at home and force every drop of the distant relationship we have with Gerard into concentrated close encounters.
Verita is obsessed. YOU are here because you are somewhat NORMAL and don't have the time to formulate these blogs. That's understandable. If you ever truly cared for Gerard then you wouldn't cheer on someone who has no respect for him. She's making a spectacle out of his life.
"I'm a pretty open book. There are things I just don't talk about because they're special to me or something. They're not apart of this."- Gerard Way
You're an adult, I GET IT. You enjoy this soap opera, I GET IT. I myself am an adult and I don't need, never have needed or will not need Verita to put me on to who Gerard is. Hell, there are even things she HASN'T mentioned that I could throw into this kettle of criticism. But I don't criticize. I don't judge and I DON'T expect you to be the better person and do the right thing.
Leave Gerard to Gerard. You are all fascinated beyond belief and have the nerve to call BN and INO people FAN GIRLS? Please... There are things on BN that I don't contribute to BECAUSE it's not right. So DON'T play the penis thread card with me!
None of you are any better or wiser than me or any one else for that matter. You are simply stuck. I live and let live. I say a prayer and hope all is well. I worry RESPECTFULLY. I won't ask you to do the same. You've already made your choice. Just stop putting down and supporting people who put down others...INCLUDING Gerard.
He's taken care of us for more than he had to or was ever obligated to and I will always love him for that. He slips up like he was BORN to do and your ready to call in the calvary. That's real sweet of you..really. -_- If and when you guys hand him the guide bokk entitled, "No Gerard! :( That's Not How You Do IT", please video tape the whole thing.
What the hell do you all expect to accomplish here? Looking to win that I Spy Private Eye badge? You keep attacking the stlyle of the comments that don't scream ADULT, ADULT. Well, you know what? In the name of all that is holy, "LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP." In the name of the Rock and Roll Gods, "Leave Gerard the fuck alone."
O and Gerard should KNOW better? LOL So you're going to spank him then? You should know better. You should know better than to try and ruin the only people that Gerard may have when it's all over. That's all Verita is anyway. "LOOK DOWN ON GERARD EVERYONE." If you care for him so much then respect his wishes. If not then say it loud and proud, "I HATE GERARD WAY." -_- Every ADULT makes mistakes. Don't pretend to be flawless and don't pretend you know what's best for someone you've never met...
You want to read something?
http://mcrmada.buzznet.com/user/journal/826351/
He's taken care of us for more than he had to or was ever obligated to and I will always love him for that.
Wow! You buy his records, and the words of his songs connect with you, but you project so many intentions on to him. How did he take care of you? You don't even know him. It's almost like a religious experience for you. That's scary, and you are an adult? All I know my connection with him is when my money parts with my wallet.
@Anon at 2:29 AM:
Thanks for the link. My post wasn't specifically for you, I didn't mean to offend you personally.
Yes, I did assume that you were one of the BN or INO fankids. I apologize for my assumption. Unfortunately, not everyone has your capability to explain their point of view without resorting to death threats. A lot of the more vitriolic posts on VV's blog ARE from 'fangirls', who feel they have to resort to 'fuck you' and 'MCR hater'. These cooments only help perpetrate the stereotype of the blind little fangirl who will never admit to her hero doing anything human.
Part of the reason why some of us are concerned about him is BECAUSE of all the teens that look up to him so much. Some of us are mothers who are concerned about the message his recent actions may be sending to their children. The intention is not to put him down, or the rest of the band. It's a discussion of his recent behavior, and I for one haven't said anything I wouldn't gladly say to him face-to-face (given the opportunity).
What I am defending is Verita's right to speak her opinion in her blog. There's a lot of crap out there that's much more harmful and disrespectful to My Chem than Verita's blog is. It's disrespectful to call him out, but slash (Frerard) fanfiction is acceptable??? Sorry, but I'll take Verita's words over the average BN poster's any day of the week.
And BECAUSE I care about him, I'm going to speak up and say, "what the hell is going on". I've never been a follower in my life, and I'm not about to start now because other fans think I should.
Yes, he SHOULD know better. Writing love notes on your on your skin with Sharpies, hickies and simulating masturbation may be cool -- when you're 15. Just because a huge portion of your fan base is made of up teenagers, doesn't mean you have to act like one yourself. This man used to be a class act, and now he's resorted to Motley Crue tactics. Whatever happened to being "anti-rock-&-roll"?
I understand what you're saying MIDNITE and it's nice to speak FREELY without Verita calling me an idol worshiper FOR ONCE.
Sorry to say, Gerard's actions are not far from what they have always been. There IS an interview where Gerard tells us how he has been sexually explicit with Frank since they performed in basements. I have Voluptuosity's Fact Phase thread to thank for that.
You are obviously comparing Gerard's behavior to a limited knowledge of the man as a performer. I'm not going to debate with anyone here anymore. I will say that Gerard's actions ON stage have very considerate reasons for them, believe it or not.
MCR was never for an age range that lacks inexperience in states of depression and life itself. If your children have latched onto this band/man due to some infatuation then I can understand your worry and concern. But still...
"The moment this band stops pissing people off is the moment this band loses it's purpose.", Gerard Way.
There is much to learn about Gerard's antics outside of Verita's one sided assumptions.
Buzznet is more than you may think and yes, I am a proud member of buzznet. If you ever consider joining and can have the patience to dig deeper than the 10 second flash in pan topics, you will see how much better it is compared to what Verita has convinced you of.
Anti-rock and roll? That was said in referral to making fans commit sex acts for back stage access. In referral to caring for a paycheck more than the fans. In referral to not being ones self in order to maintain an image. My Chemical Romance is still the band they started out to be. Reckless, unapologetic and all so with intentions of letting the world know that living life to its fullest is what we all should be shooting for. Whether that means Gerard getting married or Gerard giving an unforgettable masturbating moment on stage, they are still the same.
"We don't care what anyone thinks of us. You either get this band or you don't.", Gerard Way.
"GIRLS if you ever see shitty ass rock dudes in shitty ass rock bands asking you to show them your tits for a back stage pass, I want you to shout FUCK YOU and spit right in their fucking face.",Gerard Way.
No, you may not agree with the way Gerard goes about certain things but the SOLE purpose of the band hasn't diminished. (as Verita put it) Caring for your children over the band is what you are here for so I won't speak from a band lovers point of view after this post.
However, make sure your kids are getting the message of THE MUSIC as it is meant to be taken. When it comes to live shows...maybe the kids are better left at home.
Gerard should be more responsible in light of the younger audience but isn't it ironic how the younger audience is the motivation behind that? Hormones oof the fetish harboring fans against the in depth dark enlightening poetry doesn't match up. Gerard's no limit rule for expressing the anti-homosexual message can be risky but he maturely explains that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch
?v=XMwabvC1B7g
Children are going to be children. Gerard is going to be Gerard and with all due respect, Gerard never signed up to be a baby sitter. Writing on himself? Now you're just nit picking. He has always been a free spirit and on a deeper note, Gerard is petrified of needles which is why he has no tattoo. So maybe just maybe he can do as he pleases with his own skin. Or would you still complain if he actually went out and got a tattoo? *sigh*
I see what is being said here. You all believe that Gerard isn't behaving as the role model/adult that one should when under such observation. Well all I can say is this, did it ever occur to you that the man Gerard sought out to be is just what he's wanted?
Did it ever cross your mind that his adulthood is his own liking?
This man has struggled with his own issues for years. Before the band. He does whatever he thinks is best for him. All his decisions don't fall under public consideration, why? Because he's NOT President Bush.
You are determined to find the missing answers. I think the only thing you are missing is understanding. Understand that this man deserves to live his life as HIS life. Making this man YOUR life is unhealthy. Making the music your life is the best way to go. Life inspiring melodies with sincere passion and consideration for the underdogs of life who try withstanding toughest trials.
Did you ever think that without Verita making him out to be the bastard of the world, that he's entitled to have go down his own path?
He's not going to make everyone happy and just because you're not happy doesn't give you the right to discriminate against him.
Adults you say? *sigh* I have never seen such immature behavior. I won't be coming back and hope you all come to your humane senses. Love your kids without promoting hate towards anyone...famous or not.
Well, you know what? In the name of all that is holy, "LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP." In the name of the Rock and Roll Gods, "Leave Gerard the fuck alone."
Well hello Miss E. I wondered when you were going to make an appearance.
Sorry, no Miss E here...
It's not the sexually charged moments I'm concerned about. What does concern me is that I paid to see the band perform, NOT to watch Gerard (pretend to) grope himself.
But since you all feel the need to explain every little detail of his life, meaning & message to someone so "unenlightened" to his greatness, maybe you can tell me:
Under what possible circumstances could you justify his throwing his vomit into the crowd?
These are the actions of an adult?
Suuuuuure they are. Just remind me to stay at the back of the venue, in case he decides to start flinging other bodily fluids around, too.
There's really no use in any of us arguing, is there? Neither side is going to win.
O shut the fuck up sister! PLEASE! O MY GOD! Gerard has always been a big kid. What are you? The adolescent adult police? He threw puke on his audience. That sounds a bit stretched to me. Being that I haven't seen that video lemme guess. Maybe it was an ACCIDENT. You throw up and your not usually seeing straight are you? Or maybe you've never been to a Rock Punk show. Sometimes the performers do stupid shit because the fans are expecting it. It's mcr. If he can get away with sticking his tongue down a married mas throat then he can toss some fluids our way. If he sweat a little too hard on the front row would you still complain.
YOU- Shouldn't an ADULT carry handy wipes??
wtf? Stop analyzing every little thing about Gee.
You haven't seen the video? Then stfu, most of us have. He threw it on purpose because he was being an asshole.
To Anon @ 7:47 PM:
Shut the fuck up? Very mature.
Sweetie, I was going to shows when you were still peeing in your Pampers. Don't try to pretend you know anything about bands, because I'll call your bluff every time.
I'll say whatever I want about your beloved Gee Way. Do you think you can stop me, little girl?
I'd like to see you try it.
O shut the fuck up sister! PLEASE! O MY GOD! Gerard has always been a big kid. What are you? The adolescent adult police? He threw puke on his audience. That sounds a bit stretched to me. Being that I haven't seen that video lemme guess. Maybe it was an ACCIDENT.
Here is the video: it happens around 2 minutes in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLbnZEYbXP8
Now what's your excuse for him?
That's fucking disgusting. His entire behavior over it is the worst part.
I agree with you. Is it just me or does even his voice seem odd...
@SISTER
First off, I don't make excuses for him. But if I had to guess I'd say he was simply embarrassed. People are always looking for him to be perfect in every little way OBVIOUSLY!-_- hahahahaha ...and he felt uncomfortable and just stopped thinking for a minute.
I don't like to try and live in his head as you people here do. But you made it seem like Gerard got all Exorcist on the audience. Not a big deal. Some fans even liked it. Do I like puke on me? No.
Stop acting like he planned it. He lost his stomach IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE (wow really unexpected and embarrassing for Gee)then he lost his cool. I think you would too after having the world watch you throw up for the first time. *sigh*
O and Gerard's NOT perfect and NEVER has been. I don't expect that to change so much. Neither should anyone here. Just because you feel he has to suddenly become perfect when YOU discover Mcr gives you no right to judge him. Gerard has been down for years. I don't see why all you people find what Verita writes so fascinating. I didn't see anything here that I didn't already know and My Chem is alive. Gerard might be in trouble but that's expected. IT'S GERARD WAY. The black sheep of the lime light. You guys are way to GEEMO. LOL I love that word! xD
Not a big deal. Some fans even liked it.
Which says an awful lot about the mindset of the fanbase. The man could have blood spouting out of his ass and some people would think it was cool.
Just for your information, it doesn't matter WHEN people "discover" MCR. Don't give me that tired old crap about being into them since Bullets, etc. -- no one cares. A fan is a fan. If they didn't want new fans, they wouldn't be recording new albums.
No one expects the Great Gerard Way to be perfect. However, those of us who see something out of the ordinary are going to discuss it, and nothing you or the MCRmy can say or do is going to stop that.
Frankly, I could give a rat's ass what the rest of the fan base thinks -- neither do I expect anyone to give a rat's ass what I'm saying. And if you happen to take offense, why do you expect me to care?
Love the logic behind your post, by the way. He threw a puke-filled scarf at a crowd of people who've paid to see his band because he was EMBARASSED? That's almost as lame as the rest of the MCRmy 'arguments'.
I was wondering what excuse they would comfort themselves with...*cough*enablers*cough*
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