Monday, October 3, 2011

Why is it okay to call out African American musicians, but not white ones?

I was searching around a while ago for articles about misogyny and racism in music. I found a few of them and noticed a pattern. If you google "Misogyny in music" you will find a lot of links to rap and hip hop music.

Misogyny Set To Music calls out R Kelly.

Here's the Top 10 Misogynistic Rap Songs That Women Love, which calls out Lil Jon, Snoop, Yin Yang Twinz.

Chris Brown, Tyler the Creator and mostly other African American musicians are always, always getting called out.

Then, google "mindless self indulgence misogyny" and "mindless self indulgence racism" and what will you find? Nothing more than a bunch of white people defending the sexism and racism by saying it's "clearly ironic," "tongue in cheek," "Jimmy Urine says he's not a racist so obviously he's not" and "how can they be sexist with women in the band?" And my favorite, "MSI is reclaiming those social slurs."

So my question is, why is it acceptable for these white people to "reclaim slurs" and use slurs "in irony" but when an African American musician does it, there is a huge outcry?

I also notice that the people who post here are the only ones really calling out privileged white men like Frank Iero and Gerard Way on saying horribly racist and misogynistic things on Twitter. If an African American spoke like that on Twitter, what would the reaction be?

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Anonymous said...

On a kid's show? It's a shame the wife didn't join in with a rendition of 'Panty Shot'.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

Disgusting. They're married to and best friends with people that created and played that revolting Panty Shot song.

Anonymous said...

Apparently half of MSI joined MCR on the Yo Gabba Gabba visit.

Ugh, I was going to find those tweets when I came across this one from Jimmy Urine.

Retweeted by over a hundred MCRSI fans - how delightful!

Words fail me.

Anonymous said...

Someone should alert Yo-Gabba-Gabba to these bands' actual agenda.

Anonymous said...

http://brobee.blogspot.com/ Yo Gabba Gabba official blog.

http://yogabbagabba.com/# Yo Gabba Gabba

I don't see any "contact" info. I think if enough of us write and show them the lyrics to "Panty Shot" and their sings with "n*gger" and "f*ggot" in it, as well as screens of Gerard's use of the C word to a young girl, and Frank using "n*gga" then maybe they'd listen.

Anonymous said...

contact@yogabbagabba.com

Anonymous said...

Here is a copy of the letter I sent them.

To whom it may concern,

I am writing out of concern for the fact that you've had members of the bands My Chemical Romance and Mindless Self Indulgence on your show for children.

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the members of My Chemical Romance are known for saying abusive, sexually explicit and violent things to children, especially young girls. The lead singer of this band, Gerard Way, used his Twitter account to call a 16 year old girl a "c*nt" and threatened to "smash the face" of another girl. Guitarist Frank Iero used his Twitter account to suggest that a woman should have aborted her "annoying-ass children" by using a coat hanger. He also used the N word and, when asked to stop using that word, told the person asking him that she was an imbecile.

You also had members of Mindless Self Indulgence on the show. I wonder if you're aware of their song "Five Year Old Panty Shot" which makes light of pedophiles abusing five year old girls, and references to "spreading their legs" etc. I wonder if you're aware of their song simply called "F*ggot," which uses that offensive term to denigrate homosexuals all throughout the song. Or the song "Bitches" which states that women are "whores" and should be "on their knees."

I am appalled that these "artists" would make an appearance on a child's show. And I will be telling all of the parents who allow their children to watch it, exactly what kind of racist, misogynist, homophobic, and violent guests you allow on it.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nickjr.com/home/write_to_us.jhtml Also go to Nick Jr. and write, using the header "concerns about inappropriate content."

Anonymous said...

Now Nick Jr. specifically says that they don't read every letter, so the more people who write, the better.

Anonymous said...

Oh.My. God.

Anonymous said...

Someone should alert Yo Gabba Gabba of this hate blog full of bigotry and intolerance and the things that have been said here to make sure they automatically trash any email from any of you. Merry CHRISTmas.

Anonymous said...

I'm dreaming of a white Christmas.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of hypocrites.






Yes you are. Is that finally a confession?

Anonymous said...

It's Yo Gabba Gabba's Christmas special. All they need to hear about to discredit anything any of you have to say about MCR or MSI is the anti Christian hate speech that has been spread all over this blog.
Does google know about that? Google does own blogspot.

Anonymous said...

Hypocrisy and hate speech of any kind will always come back to bite you on the ass cheeks. You can't be against racism if you've mocked or belittled any race. Even white people.

You can't be tolerant and free from hatred or bigotry if you've mocked or belittled any religion. Jew, Muslim, Christian, etc.

Nobody pays any serious attention to a hypocrite.

If any of you are serious about your causes, you might want to take a good long look in the mirror and address your own bigotry, hated and socially unacceptable behaviour before attempting to chastise and correct others. Just statin what should be obvious.

Anonymous said...

I heard that Nick Jr. is going to pull that Yo Gabba Gabba Christmas show off their prime time schedule just because of all of you.








































RAZZ!RAZZ!RAZZ!RAZZ!RAZZ!RAZZ!RAZZ!RAZZ!

Anonymous said...

You can try to deflect all you want.

Anonymous said...

Yes, you come here with your propaganda 4:24. We know all about you.

Anonymous said...

You call yourself a religious person 4:51. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Anonymous said...

You can try to deflect all you want

Funny that's exactly what you do. One rule for one set of people, another for people you favor. You are as cowardly as the people you follow and idolize.

Anonymous said...

Hypocrisy and hate speech of any kind will always come back to bite you on the ass cheeks. You can't be against racism if you've mocked or belittled any race. Even white people.

You can't be tolerant and free from hatred or bigotry if you've mocked or belittled any religion. Jew, Muslim, Christian, etc.

Nobody pays any serious attention to a hypocrite.

If any of you are serious about your causes, you might want to take a good long look in the mirror and address your own bigotry, hated and socially unacceptable behaviour before attempting to chastise and correct others. Just statin what should be obvious.


You come here with this bullshit? Where the hell is your conscience? How could you condone a song like Panty Shot and the people who made it part of their stage act? Don't you have any morals? Where is your sense of compassion and dignity for the rights of children? What the hell is wrong with you that you feel the need to defend this bands and that vile song? Have you lost your mind completely?

Anonymous said...

Ignore it, it's a troll.

Hocking said...

I heard that Warner wasn't going to be supplying the band with a producer or studio for the next album.

Anonymous said...

I found a great quote by Jack White:

"Irony is the easy way out. It's an anti-opinion, an opinion without taking any chances."

I immediately thought of MSI when I read it.

Anonymous said...

All those incidents were before their children were born it doesn't excuse the fact that they happened but children do change the way people think. I doubt MSI will be performing pantyshot again and I doubt that Frank'll be telling a mother to sit on a hanger. None of these things are excuseable but until they do these things or similar things again I'm over the incidents. Immaturity and ignorance played a big role in MCR's lives once upon a time but I think they're different with the arrival of their own daughters and I think they'll think before they speak from now on and this is what I choose to believe until I'm shown otherwise.

As for Gerard saying he has no problem calling a 16yr old a c**t. I had a big problem with this but now not so much, I had a run in with a quite a few teenagers in the past few months and some of them really can be c**ts. Its not a word I would actually use when insulting someone but they have no problem using the words themselves. Some teenagers are not very nice at all.

I think if you want to complain to Yo Gabba Gabba about MCR's PAST behavior then go for it but I don't think its going to have the effect you are hoping for. However if it does, you may get the apology that some of you want from Gerard especially, for the things he's said and done but even if he did apologise I don't think he'd actually get forgiveness from some of the people on this blog. I think some of you love to hate.

Anonymous said...

Teenagers are not nice at times but to come out and say it publicly and on his twitter was stupid.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter if they never play Panty Shot again it's their legacy along with all the other vile songs. When I was younger I would have never thought pedophilia was a subject to lightheartedly joke about in any context, even then I knew morally it crossed the line. What is going on in the heads of these people? Didn't the other three think "we have gone too far with this"? That says a lot to me about the type of people they are.

Anonymous said...

"All those incidents were before their children were born"

What a shitty excuse to make for their behavior. I don't have any children and have yet to call a 16 year old a c***, wish a woman had sat on a coat hanger or write a song making light of child abuse.

Anonymous said...

I think if you want to complain to Yo Gabba Gabba about MCR's PAST behavior

Their 'past' behavior was showing us how they really think and what their personalities truly are.

Anonymous said...

What are both of them going to say to their daughter about the music her mother plays? Are they going to tell her it's all a joke?

Anonymous said...

Bitches and whores on their knees, a five year old being watched so funny/not

Anonymous said...

A new LynZ interview.

http://youtu.be/FhYn2jn2irs

kapunua said...

Anon, unless that's Lindsey saying "Wow, I just realized I've never done anything but set women back, and I'd like to apologize for my entire career up until now," why would I even want to listen to that dummy speak? She doesn't have two brain cells to breed, and it pains me to hear her voice.

That said, I also sent an email to Nick Jr. Because eww. Those people, sitting there singing or talking to five year olds? Oh, hell nawww.

Off topic, but is anyone else having this thiiing with Blogger where as soon as you get to the bottom of the comments, the page shoots back up to the top? WTF is that about?

Anonymous said...

Who cares what that thick head has to say.

Anonymous said...

Her husband, her daughter, her friends and her fans care. That's who cares.

Anonymous said...

Daughter aside (whose intelligence isn't formed yet,) the rest of them sound like a bunch of thickheads too. So again. Who cares?

Anonymous said...

Exactly 5:06 and it was pathetic that 4:13 even mentioned her daughter. She is an infant and depends on her mother, Of course her mother would be important to her.

Anonymous said...

If her mother had any dignity and respect for her daughter she would think twice about playing songs about pedophiles and 'bitches and whores' to show she's pro-female.

Anonymous said...

Funny how these bubble-headed fame obsessed idiot friends of theirs come here to defend very poor choices and vile music.

Anonymous said...

her fans care

Which are comprised of at least 85% MCR/GW fans.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how long she attend Pratt? A year, or a few months?

Anonymous said...

"What is going on in the heads of these people? Didn't the other three think "we have gone too far with this"? That says a lot to me about the type of people they are"

This is the thing that pains me the most about this blog. The songs they make are purposefully inflammatory, they want people to be angry. I don't understand how no one seems to have worked that out yet. You people are giving the band what they want. A reaction.

Anonymous said...

Oh please, the woman and the others are simply after fame the way I see it. Seems if you can't achieve it by talent and good music you just aim low to get noticed. We have worked out they want a reaction, but the reactions here are not the ones they want. If that's all they were interested in, why are so highly defensive when they get criticized over their "music"? They put out crappy vile lyrics and are thin-skinned when people point out the obvious.

Anonymous said...

Most of us happen to think that just because you are in a band or an "artist" it doesn't absolve you when putting out extremely vile subject matter.

Anonymous said...

thin-skinned when people point out the obvious.

Like Gerard don't call me emo Way or

Gerard throwing shit at everyone cuz me and me friends are artists Way or

Gerard this is the real me Way.

Anonymous said...

http://twitter.com/helpspreadthis

The cases of child abuse highlighted are soul destroying.

Only animals would find child abuse a topic to mock. Correction: animals would never be that cruel.

Anonymous said...

Kapunua and everyone else, I think you will enjoy this. It's the trailer for Girl With Dragon Tattoo with Reznor's soundtrack which sounds pretty good!

kapunua said...

Anon, I'm def. gonna see that movie because I enjoyed the books and the first movie. But I'm side-eyeing this remake BIG time because so far in all the ads, Salander has been portrayed wrapped around the male lead like some kind of limpet, or object. Nowhere in the series did she ever behave like that. So I'm wary about this one.

Anonymous said...

I read a review of the new TGWTDT film, which focused mainly on Lisbeth's character. I don't know how accurate it was, but it led me to believe the new film sticks pretty closely to the book. I hope it's true.

I liked the other adaptation starring Noomi Rapace (hope I spelled that right), although there were things I didn't love about it. Everything about Lisbeth was great in that one though.

kapunua said...

I think it's possible to be faithful to the letter of the book while screwing up the spirit of it. For example, there are two key scenes (I won't spoil it, but if you've read it or seen the first film, you'll know which I mean,) one in which something happens to Salander, and one in which she gets her revenge. I have the creeping suspicion that they are going to focus on her victimization, because the "revenge" scene would be really uncomfortable for a male audience.

And I just have this horrible feeling that they're going to water that down, water HER down, make her more physically dependent, etc.

But maybe I'm way off! I hope I am, and I'm gonna see the movie anyway and give it a chance.

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking the imagery, the colors and the subtle nuances together with the score in David Fincher's version draw you in to the complexity of Lisbeth: a highly intelligent character tinged by years of abuse.

When you are formed by abuse there are parts of you that are extreme, you may exhibit intense emotional and physical dependence or alternatively be hyper independent to the point of excluding virtually everyone.

I found a review here and it seems favorable.

kapunua said...

8:54 that can be true in real life, but Lisbeth was not depicted as dependent in any way at all, in the book. Or even in the first film. The posters I saw for this version really cheesed me off, with her wrapped around him and clinging like that. It wasn't true to her character and it did come across as sexist since she was always in a submissive, needy position.

A review wouldn't change my mind, because most movie reviewers would probably miss out on these nuances, since they're so ingrained into our media. So unless the review was already savvy to ingrained patriarchy, it's not going to sway me one way or the other.

But like I said, that might just be the marketing. I'll have to see the movie before I decide. I hope I'm wrong, and it's just the marketing that's shoddy. I want the movie to be good.

Anonymous said...

Well I hope she is not depicted as submissive Kapunua, although one of the undercurrent themes in the book seems to be centre around abuse by people who are meant to protect you so I don't know how it entirely ties in with Fincher's version. But he has me intrigued and I am curious to see this as I don't see that many current movies.

Anonymous said...

interesting

Anonymous said...

MCR's Yo Gabba Gabba thing.

http://youtu.be/cXDpuv6xkfI

I found it creepy.

Anonymous said...

Everything they touch is creepy after Panty Shot and C*ntgate.

Anonymous said...

MCR had nothing to do with Panty Shot.
You can't be British if you have a problem with throwing around the c word. It's everyday language.

Pixie said...

I'm British, and I have a problem with the "c" word. I think it's disgusting.

Anonymous said...

That's not true 12:11. Only an American who doesn't understand the culture in the UK would say something like that.

Anonymous said...

Talk about damage control after all they did to themselves...

Anonymous said...

Americans like Jared Leto and Tomo Miličević. ^_~

Anonymous said...

http://www.bigcheesemagazine.com/features/article/30-seconds-to-mars

What are you favorite English swear words?

Tomo: C*NT. You guys use it so loosely.

Anonymous said...

I guess 30STM don't understand the culture of their 2nd home and the Big Cheese interviewer doesn't understand the culture of his homeland.

Anonymous said...

Those common uncouth Brits. Ruining Americans who are forced to travel there for work with their sexist British vulgarity.

Anonymous said...

You assume that an American rock band that hangs around other music industry people in the UK who use the profanity automatically means it's part of the accepted British culture. That makes you ignorant and highly stupid. Funnily enough that's the image that most people outside of the US have of Americans.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who thinks that something applies because some rockstars mentions in an interview has gotta be dense. I have many friends British friends and it's def not part of standard talk.

kapunua said...

It *is* sexist when a man says it (and I'm not wild about it if a woman says it, but if that's how she wants to refer to her own bits or whatever, that's her choice.) I had a British person tell me just the other day that "it doesn't mean the same over here" but that doesn't mean I find it any less sexist.

Anonymous said...

That's not actually true Kapunua, it still means the same thing only in Britain, New Zealand and Australia if you place something positive, for example, if someone from those countries calls you a clever c***, they are colloquially humoring you and not meaning to be sexist at all. But generally the original meaning sticks. Someone from those countries wouldn't just go around calling people c's because they know it's offensive.

Anonymous said...

That makes you ignorant and highly stupid. Funnily enough that's the image that most people outside of the US have of Americans.


That makes no one ignorant or highly stupid.

Funnily enough, statements like yours and Brit's like you are why so many Americans and people of younger nations think most British people are rude, pretentious old out of touch twits who think way too much of themselves and are still bitter about losing their hold of the colonies and the colonists.

Anonymous said...

I don't think that people of South Africa or Australia had a problem putting the so much smarter and superior British in their place either. That's always been the problem with Britain. Their need to see themselves as superiors and to control. The same could be said of Russia only Russia got over themselves.

Anonymous said...

Oh, looks like an American got all upset. Typical. Although I know that not all Americans generalize like 3:03 to 3:18 because they are madly infatuated with rockstars and think the whole world revolves around their pretentious asses therefore making themselves look like a ninny, unfortunately 12:29 you're one that falls in the dense category ^_^

Anonymous said...

You assume that an American rock band that hangs around other music industry people in the UK who use the profanity automatically means it's part of the accepted British culture. That makes you ignorant and highly stupid. Funnily enough that's the image that most people outside of the US have of Americans.

Definitely. Anyone who thinks that jeez a rawstah said it so it's 100% true is a bona fide idiot.

Pixie said...

Surely, it's a personal thing. I've been called "daft bastard", "silly cow", " dozy fucker" and other things. They don't bother me as much as the "c" word.
Plus isn't it was context it's used in?

Anonymous said...

Pixie that silly American thinks that everyone in the UK talks like they're in a Guy Ritchie movie.

Anonymous said...

I don't see where any of this culture trashing is getting us anywhere. You can't paint all Brits with the same brush any more than you can all Americans or any other nationality. The populace of any given country is made up of individuals.

kapunua said...

^ This.

Also, I'd like to add that a person's intention when they're saying racist or sexist things doesn't count for anything. The "I don't mean it like that when I say it" defense doesn't fly. Intention has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous said...

http://www.novafm.com.au/audio_danger-days-gave-gerard-way-answers-he-didn-t-realise-he-needed_103864

Anonymous said...

"The digital element we’re referencing on Danger Days is directly related to stuff in the 90s, like Chemical Brothers and a lot of British electronic bands,” he explained. “That’s starting to come back now. For this whole culture of kids that missed the rave scene, it’s staring to exist pretty heavily again and I think because that stuff is everywhere now, it’s probably sounding very right now.”


I never knew they left.

Anonymous said...

MSI must be into raving lol

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they love glowsticks now.

Anonymous said...

Can't speak for anyone else in that list, but pretty sure that Chris Brown gets called out for having unapologetically brutalized his then girlfriend. Just putting that out there...

Anonymous said...

"Actually, people of color literally cannot be oppressively racist against white people."

What an asinine thing to say. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Anonymous said...

They probably like to shove them somewhere 6:56.

kapunua said...

11:58, racism means oppression. It's impossible for the race of people who hold all the power in a culture to be oppressed by a marginalized person. A person of color can be bigoted, biased and ignorant. But they cannot be racist towards a white person. And a woman can be misandrist, hateful, ignorant etc. but cannot be sexist. Racism and sexism are about power.

This might help you, if you feel like educating yourself.

You'll start to understand this once you read it. And if you don't, then you'll just get left behind. You know those nasty, bitter old white folks who sit on their porches and think the world was a better place in the 50s when women were in the kitchen and "the blacks" sat at the back of the bus? And everyone else side-eyes them? Yeah. That'll be you.

Anonymous said...

Wow. POC can't be racists and women can't be sexists. How long was she deprived of oxygen at birth?

Anonymous said...

Too long. Much too long to ever be considered a normal or a semi functional member of society in any way. That's why VV always runs to her rescue. Who else sees a Christmas post coming in the next 2 or 3 days? Coddle and protect. Never point out the errors or the ignorance. It's all so predictable.

kapunua said...

I'm not going to explain it to you again. I can't possibly make it any easier for you to understand. But by all means, hold onto that privilege of yours and keep standing by your belief that POCs can be racist! Keep on living in the past with your ignorance. Like I said, you're going to be that sad old creep that everyone else side-eyes and feels ashamed of in public. "Oh, that's Auntie Anon. She doesn't mean to be racist. She's... from a different time, you have to understand."

Anonymous said...

Kapunua you can't educate a redneck no matter how hard you try.

Anonymous said...

You mean predictable like you 5:00, and no I'm not VV either dummy.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why they don't just stay at Mayo's trying to hook their rawkstah

Anonymous said...

beyond pathetic

Anonymous said...

Anyone who disagrees with them has to be from Mayo's or an MCR SI fangirl trying to hook a rockstah. I wonder what excuses they use IRL when they can't use another blog or a band. Why can't they get a real date? Why don't they have friends to go out with on weekends? Why don't their coworkers want to hang out with them ? I wonder.

Anonymous said...

I would seriously be ashamed and wonder about myself as a person if the only people I could get to hang out with me regularly were my younger cousins or other family members. Thats just creepy and disturbing.

Anonymous said...

That's not nearly as creepy and disturbing as a 35 - 40 year old having their mummy follow them all around the internet and frequent the same blogs and websites as they do. Who does that? That is not normal. Cut the apron stings unless that child is in some way mentally or emotionally disabled and needs your protection.

Anonymous said...

Blah blah blah. Not only are you incredibly stupid 1:26 to 1:49 but incredibly obsessive.

Anonymous said...

Some people just can't be helped.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who disagrees with them has to be from Mayo's or an MCR SI fangirl trying to hook a rockstah. I wonder what excuses they use IRL when they can't use another blog or a band. Why can't they get a real date? Why don't they have friends to go out with on weekends? Why don't their coworkers want to hang out with them ? I wonder

Why do you care so much that she doesn't like the rockstars that you love? So much that you follow her around the internet trying to score points. Do you think that if you show how dedicated you are to them they're gonna be interested in you? Guess what THEY'RE MARRIED AND YOU'RE INSANE.

Anonymous said...

beyond pathetic

December 13, 2011 1:26 AM


Good description about yourself 1:26.

Anonymous said...

It's deflection. It gets pointed out that they're rednecks and the only thing they can come up with is "you can't get a date and you don't have friends."

Anonymous said...

Funnily enough none of this makes what Gerard and his wife/friends say/do any less racist or misogynist, does it? Why don't you try and argue (again) how they're 'just joking' and 'it isn't really offensive', like Jessicka does. You're much more hilarious when you're trying to make them seem innocent!

Anonymous said...

Oh, and if you're so upset about apparent hypocisy, you'll enjoy going after Gerard for defending women's rights and then turning around and threatening to beat them to death, won't you? Run along now...

Anonymous said...

Just ignore these ignorant, racist rednecks. You can't educate an old redneck, they stay that way for life, unfortunately.

Anonymous said...

I would seriously be ashamed and wonder about myself as a person if the only people I could get to hang out with me regularly were my younger cousins or other family members. Thats just creepy and disturbing.

Are you serious with this shit? What are you, about 13?

Well adjusted adults maintain close relationships with their family members. Most outgrow the "rebellious teen" phase. I guess you haven't yet, huh?

Anonymous said...

Don't waste your time on them 7:39. They are most likely obsessed with a rockstar or his numbskull wife. There is no reasoning with them.

Anonymous said...

Didn't you know? It's much healthier to hang out on your fave rawkstahs make believe blog hoping to get a crumb of attention from him than it is to have relationships with your family members.

Anonymous said...

What the healthiest thing to do is to establish different relationships. Many different relationships with many different people. Relationships outside the family. Even rednecks and mountain people are smart enough to know that inbreeding leads to disaster. duh They learned that from all those purebred royals.

Anonymous said...

Danger Days is 130 on Billboard's top 200 albums of the year. I keep wondering what the fuck is the source of this '4.4 million albums sold' factoid that the Australian press has been mentioning lately.

Looks like it takes more than having the same management as Coldplay to become as big as they are.

Anonymous said...

What exactly does throwing slurs back and forth at people from each blog achieve? No one wins anything. No one looks better than the other side. Why can't you people just leave each other alone? If you hate someone, why let their opinion get to you? By continuing this pointless feud all either side is doing, is proving that the other still very much gets to them. Does this not strike anyone else as stupid and a waste of time? Agree to hate each other and your opposing beliefs. Then leave it alone. I can't believe VV puts up with this. Still.

Anonymous said...

to become as big as they are

Heh. That should make the wives happy.

Anonymous said...

If they come to this blog wearing their G Way is so sassy/F Lero is the man t-shirts, what do you expect 9:21?

Anonymous said...

So why not sink to their level, 2:46? That is great logic.

Anonymous said...

I see Jessicka won't even take notice of Lindsey/MSI's blatant misogyny even when her neutral friends (Emily Autumn) draw her attention to it. I doubt Emily is a 'jellus' fangirl trying to start drama; so what's Jessicka's excuse this time? Why does she continue to defend MSI's gross music with her deliberate silence?

Anonymous said...

As this place is pretty quiet at the moment, I thought I'd share this excellent blog by Jenny Johnson (comedy writer/producer) about Kim Kardashian and Chris Brown. Very funny, and absolutely correct, IMO.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/39222/an-open-letter-to-kim-kardashian-and-chris-brown

Anonymous said...

So why not sink to their level, 2:46? That is great logic.

You are missing the point as usual.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the pretense here. This blog was started because a rockstah pissed some of you off by marrying a woman you felt was bad for him. Don't pretend this blog was started for any other reason than that. Don't even try to take any high road after some of the cheap shots that have taken at Mrs. Lyndsey Way. Her looking years older than her age, her only talent being showing her crotch, etc.

Play pretend among yourselves if you must but don't try to convince anybody else to buy the bullshit. It's a waste of your time and blog space.

Anonymous said...

For the record, I remember seeing pictures of some of you and Lyndsey Way looks much better, healthier, and younger than all of you whose pictures I've seen.

Anonymous said...

SnoreZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Anonymous said...

Verita you should make a new blog. Maybe you can call it Rawkstahs you can't have (subtitled no amount of wife ass-kissing is going to change that)

Anonymous said...

Or you could call it Can't touch thisHint:5:26 & 5:32

Anonymous said...

For the record, I remember seeing pictures of some of you and Lyndsey Way looks much better, healthier, and younger than all of you whose pictures I've seen.

I suppose the 'ol botox comes in handy.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the pretense here. This blog was started because a rockstah pissed some of you off by marrying a woman you felt was bad for him. Don't pretend this blog was started for any other reason than that. Don't even try to take any high road after some of the cheap shots that have taken at Mrs. Lyndsey Way. Her looking years older than her age, her only talent being showing her crotch, etc.

Play pretend among yourselves if you must but don't try to convince anybody else to buy the bullshit. It's a waste of your time and blog space



Translation: He's my man and I'll do anything to have him and if you bitchz dare say anything that remotely rings true I'm going to slam u cuz he's all MINE MINE MINE

Anonymous said...

The irony, 1:57, I believe you are too.

Anonymous said...

The 'irony' is in your head 6:37.

Anonymous said...

Translation: He's my man and I'll do anything to have him and if you bitchz dare say anything that remotely rings true I'm going to slam u cuz he's all MINE MINE MINE

December 15, 2011 6:26 PM


LOL!

Anonymous said...

Tsk tsk, faux feminists that come here defending their friends.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the pretense here. This blog was started because a rockstah pissed some of you off by marrying a woman you felt was bad for him. Don't pretend this blog was started for any other reason than that. Don't even try to take any high road after some of the cheap shots that have taken at Mrs. Lyndsey Way. Her looking years older than her age, her only talent being showing her crotch, etc.

Play pretend among yourselves if you must but don't try to convince anybody else to buy the bullshit. It's a waste of your time and blog space



No where near as cheap as songs about pedophiles and bitches and whores on their knees.

Anonymous said...

Seeing they're such big jokers wouldn't this be all a big joke for them?

Anonymous said...

Play pretend among yourselves if you must but don't try to convince anybody else to buy the bullshit. It's a waste of your time and blog space


Play pretend that your friend didn't play songs about pedophiles and women on their knees, as you usually do.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the pretense here. This blog was started because a rockstah pissed some of you off by marrying a woman you felt was bad for him.

It actually started off because some of us thought he was drinking heavily again and made hasty decisions. Now we know the old rockstah was just a image he created for himself.

Anonymous said...

her only talent being showing her crotch, etc.

She is not exactly known for her musical ability is she now?

Pixie said...

No. She's known for her "art" and her hideous tattoos....

kapunua said...

THIS made me think of white/racist/Christian troll "anon" who comes in here once in a while.

1) Somebody calling you racist apparently gives you the right to accuse them of racism in return, because clearly, saying you don’t get something because you are not part of the group is DENYING YOU SOMETHING BASED ON YOUR RACE.

2) It’s oppressing men if you deny them privileges which they already have and also if you don’t let them shoulder burdens that society does not automatically assign them. ..

5) Pointing out oppression done by an oppressive group (White, male, cis, straight, Christian, etc.) makes you more bigoted and intolerant than the group you’re calling out. Because then you’re a HYPOCRITE...

7) Other complete defenses that you can use when people point out bigotry/racism/sexism/homophobia/etc. are:

a) it’s art! It’s a statement!
b) it was a joke!
c) I was trying to honor your minority with my generalizations! be grateful for the positive vibe coming off of my fetishization!
d) OMG YOU ARE BEING AS INTOLERANT AS I AM BY NOT ACCEPTING MY OWN VALID POINT OF VIEW!


And other such examples.

Anonymous said...

I have a quesion not pertaining to mcr/msi. So I over hear one of my old work colleaugues talking about some girl at work... They call her a whore for flirting with multiple guys and they all laugh about it. I go back and I say "WoW, you guys are pretty low for that one! Why cant she be allowed to flirt? She is a grown woman isn't she?" And they say, "oh be quiet! Don't defend that kind of thing. Hell,given the chance she would do it in the broad daylight. If a woman is going to live that kind of life she should at least have a little class with it!"
I'm not a feminist and don't really know the rules of that kind of thing. Was I wrong to defend her?
I'm confused If a man can have multiple partners and no one says a word about it, then why can't a woman flirt with guys & not be called a whore?

Anonymous said...

Maybe you should become a feminist, 2:41.

Women should be able to do the same things men do without the slut shaming nonsense.

If people stopped giving one gender preferential treatment over the other (same goes for races, religions, ethnicities, etc.), the world would be a much better place.

Anonymous said...

Kapunua, aren't you generalizing with your own comment there? There may be several offensive anon's here, but that doesn't mean they all share the ugly opinions you are putting on them in your comment. That is the same thing some of them do when they generalize the opinions of the regulars here. It is out of line coming from either side.

kapunua said...

6:43, how the hell can I be "generalizing" when I was talking about one person?

Anonymous said...

6:43 learn to read comments properly.

Anonymous said...

I see Jessicka won't even take notice of Lindsey/MSI's blatant misogyny even when her neutral friends (Emily Autumn) draw her attention to it. I doubt Emily is a 'jellus' fangirl trying to start drama; so what's Jessicka's excuse this time? Why does she continue to defend MSI's gross music with her deliberate silence?

Imo that Jessicka person has no credibility when it comes to representing feminism seeing she is very supportive of her pedophile song playing friends. I think she and her friends are the same, they like to name-drop, seek fame and push their 'art'. Sounds very similar to a rockstar we once thought had his heart in the right place.

Anonymous said...

Now we know the old rockstah was just a image he created for himself

There is nothing more reprehensible and disgusting than people that claim to support serious human rights issues just to build a image for themselves to support their avarice.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the pretense here. This blog was started because a rockstah pissed some of you off by marrying a woman you felt was bad for him. Don't pretend this blog was started for any other reason than that. Don't even try to take any high road after some of the cheap shots that have taken at Mrs. Lyndsey Way. Her looking years older than her age, her only talent being showing her crotch, etc.

Play pretend among yourselves if you must but don't try to convince anybody else to buy the bullshit. It's a waste of your time and blog space


Maybe it's her putrid prince coming to her rescue!

Anonymous said...

you may get the apology that some of you want from Gerard especially, for the things he's said and done but even if he did apologise

The only reason I see him ever attempting to put out a public apology is when it effects his record/book/art sales. It would be far from genuine. These people are nothing more than vacuous, superficial people in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the pretense here. This blog was started because a rockstah pissed some of you off by marrying a woman you felt was bad for him. Don't pretend this blog was started for any other reason than that. Don't even try to take any high road after some of the cheap shots that have taken at Mrs. Lyndsey Way. Her looking years older than her age, her only talent being showing her crotch, etc.

Play pretend among yourselves if you must but don't try to convince anybody else to buy the bullshit. It's a waste of your time and blog space


I don't give a damn if he adores that panty shot playing wife of his. They're carbon copies of each other. It seems that nothing too low is low enough for them.

Anonymous said...

Maybe it's her putrid prince coming to her rescue!

All for his Panty Shot princess.

Anonymous said...

Sir Lancelot would have done anything for Lady Guinevere. Don't hate him for his chivalry or her inspiring that chivalry. It comes off as common, putrid jealousy.

Anonymous said...

I never knew that a person that plays "music" about a five year old being stalked by potential molesters for audience humor inspire chivalry.

Anonymous said...

What a sickening place you inhabit 12:32.

Anonymous said...

And if your intention was to humor us you have succeeded. To associate this pair with Arthurian Legend is one BIG joke.

Anonymous said...

Anyone interested in seeing this?

Anonymous said...

Nope. MS and MT are so last century. You know, the last century when people had enough money to pay their house notes, car notes, health insurance and enough left over to feed their children.

Anonymous said...

Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan truly did like, respect and admire each other. As did Tony Blair and George W. Bush. That respect and admiration made this world a better place.

You'd be hard pressed to find two national leaders who truly respect and like each other today. Seriously. I can't think of two of today's world leaders who would sit down to lunch together just because they want to lunch together. No other world leaders really like or respect either Obama or Brown. The USA and the UK made their beds and now they're lying in them. Shit up their nostrils and wondering when the last breath will come.

Anonymous said...

Both Brown and Obama have exhibited an extraordinary ability to get nothing done other than destroying the middle, working class. We should also give both of them credit for the successes of the Occupy and anonymous movements. Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us. Anonymous is not being fooled again.

Anonymous said...

Mya, you just keep telling yourself that this mess happened in three short years. This is all on Bush.

Anonymous said...

Well, Meryl Streep looks to do fantastic job in that trailer. And I adore Jim Broadbent. I think it will be a very successful movie. I have still yet to see The King's Speech.

Anonymous said...

* a

Anonymous said...

LMAO.

I believe you mean that Tony Blair was GW Bush's butt-monkey, don't you, anon @4:58?

Anonymous said...

As did Tony Blair and George W. Bush. That respect and admiration made this world a better place.

Riiight.

The world was such a better place when both British and American soldiers were off getting killed in search of non-existent weapons of mass destruction.

Or you know. Not.

4:25 am said...

She does, doesn't she 1:15! This is a must-see movie for me.

Anonymous said...

Watch your thoughts for they become your words, watch your words for they became your actions, watch your actions for they became your character and your character will be your destiny.

No truer words have been spoken.

Anonymous said...

This is recent. Jessica with the man who threatens to hit women and the woman who promotes rape and child abuse in her 'band'. Are you proud, Jessicka? Remember, you are what you hang with.

http://fuckyeahhlynz.tumblr.com/post/14522369221

Anonymous said...

Gerard appears very happy with his wife.

Don't know who the others are.

Anonymous said...

That's the problem. Gerard seems happy with Lyndsey. The people here don't like that. They don't like happy people. Especially if those people are members or fans of MCR or MSI. They want everybody else to be as miserable as they are.

Anonymous said...

G&L Way will make many beautiful babies together if that's what they want. A very attractive couple.

Anonymous said...

Not true 2:06 and 2:29. We all know that he loves her. I hope they have lots of babies and are happy together for the rest of their lives. That doesn't change my opinion about his wife's music.

Anonymous said...

Contrary to the way most fangirls think I don't think he's that great of a catch just because he's a rockstar and made some money. There are men out there who are so much more intelligent(number 1 priority) and attractive.

Anonymous said...

who they were taking on, did they They THOUGHT they could LIE their way to popularity. II say, bring it on "bitches"! Keep it up! Let's see whose asses Warner goes after. Yep. Keep pissing me and the people I LIKE off and see... bitches had/haveNO CLUE! Yep, everything was always ALL about them.. Ah huh! All the laughter, maybe! Nothing else! xoxo, Wendy

Verita I thought I would draw this to your attention. It was posted at Mayo's.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure VV knows about that. VV knows what her emotionally stunted children do. She knows who is on their shit list. The ones who stood up for themselves, their beliefs, and their friends. Mya, Amyranth, Wendy, MJ, Dickweed, the OP's, 7, TJ, SS, the Unicorn, MissT, Mayo himself and more.

Anonymous said...

*shakes head*

You people are just as obstinate.

Anonymous said...

If only VV's emotionally retarded assholes could keep their ugly nasty asses here and leave Mayo and his lovelies in peace all would be well. But they can't. They can't let go of Mayo or his blog. They try to force JGL and T Hard talk there but nobody cares about their moviestaws or their fangirls at that blog.

Anonymous said...

How do you know it's them? Do you have proof?

Anonymous said...

And why are you here if you hate them so much?

Anonymous said...

Do you have proof of anything? If you're a smart girl you would have proof of your own innocence. If you're a pretty girl you really don't need proof. If you're pretty and smart then anyone against you is totally f*cked because you can talk and flirt your way out of or into anything. Like Jessika, Lyndsey and all the Heathers of the world.

Anonymous said...

Why are they there 4:18? Why do they stalk Jessika, LynZ and MCR sites?

Anonymous said...

If they were going to their houses or personally following them that's stalking. If you are in the public eye and say things in public, anyone can look at it, it's not stalking. The sites are public.

Anonymous said...

The burden of proof lies not on the accused but on the accusers.

The guilty don't have to prove their innocence. Their accusers do have to prove the guilt of the accused in civilized countries. Just sayin'.

Anonymous said...

Civilized countries don't include the middle east where people are still beheaded for witchcraft , women are stoned to death for adultery and homosexuals are raped in gov't sanctioned punishments to cure them.

Anonymous said...

Who is being accused?

Anonymous said...

Opinions are not accusations, they are opinions.

Anonymous said...

My opinion is that people are still butt hurt and asses are still burning because Mayo chose to respect the identity of anonymous Mya when she emailed the clowns to let them know that they were being publicly accused of sexual assault on the net. How many times was he told that he should do something about that? How many times was he asked, guilt tripped, and badgered to help someone get their job back despite their being fired for their own slanderish and legally liable actions? They can't get over that. All of their own assumptions were proven erroneous by that one incident and they can't forgive being proven wrong so publicly.

That is why VV's regs hate the remainder of the Mayo lovelies.

Anonymous said...

The self proclaimed protagonist was killed off quicker and more brutally than Janet Leigh in Psycho with that move. Only difference is Janet Leigh was smart & savvy enough to know that her character was dead. ^_~

Anonymous said...

because Mayo chose to respect the identity of anonymous Mya

Maybe they're very close.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your opinion 5:19. I would like another opinion from you. If a person was constantly sending a married man sexually suggestive remarks to the point of embarrassment,yet you know they are constantly doing this, would you just turn a blind eye to it and condone it because you are friends with them?

Anonymous said...

Cat got your tongue 5:19?

Anonymous said...

I still Jessicka the 'feminist' is still close friends with the rape-supporting, child abuse mocking racist and her wannabe-woman beater of a husband. How cute.

Anonymous said...

Mya and the rest of you anons, you are a disgrace. A woman gets sexually molested, asks for help, and you blame her, says she's lying and make sure to get her fired. I look down on you and I look down on the boss that fired her. That is rape culture. That is patriarchy. FUCK PATRIARCHY.

Anonymous said...

SOme anons here really scramble for VVs attention.

Anonymous said...

I really wish this blog had no connections to that crazy Mayo's place.

I did not come here from Mayo's. I never even heard of it until after I started coming here, but I followed a link from here to there, and I think the people on that blog are completely and totally batshit insane.

I can't imagine any of the people here going over there to try and talk to those crazies about anything. To me, it seems like they are always coming over here trying to stir up shit.

Anonymous said...

Random comment time, but does anyone here follow Ricky Gervais on Twitter? He got into a bit of a discussion with a Christian Fundamentalist on Twitter, regarding him (Ricky) being an Atheist. I thought Ricky handled himself pretty well.

It is very scary that people actually have these beliefs. LINK

kapunua said...

Re: the whole Mya and job thing: I ain't even bovvered tho. I mean, I am to the extent that it was such a huge shock that this kind of misogyny and rape culture still existed, BUT, I'm glad I learned about it. It made me that much more of a feminist. I'm just sorry that it took something like that happening to me, to open my eyes to it. That was selfish of me. I should have seen it before!

It's not that it happened entirely to me. I mean, yeah, the guy put his hands on me, too, in a way that, now that I'm out of the situation, could definitely be construed as harassing. (He went to the toilet and then came out and wipes his wet hands on me.) It was just that, in the situation, my boss and others would make light of it. "LOL he was just kidding with you, that's what they do! Just forget about it!"

Then he put his hands on that younger girl and I hit the roof.

The fact that my boss took their side over it, and no one was willing to stand up for what was right, was kind of like whiplash. "Holy crap. This is rape culture."

I in no way blame the girl who was too afraid to make the report. She's a victim of rape culture, too. She was ashamed and scared. I get that.

So anyway, it was years ago, and it made me a better person.

With a better job. ^_^

Anonymous said...

You can't argue with a fundamentalist. They see the world in black and white. It's their nature. You can't only show others that may be persuaded by their reasoning that it is flawed with logic.

kapunua said...

Cool on Ricky Gervais! I love that quote. "I don't believe in your God but I believe in your kindness."

Anonymous said...

If you're pretty and smart then anyone against you is totally f*cked because you can talk and flirt your way out of or into anything. Like Jessika, Lyndsey and all the Heathers of the world.

Whoever you are you still seem to have a high school mentality. And the two you mention are not influential, maybe only to the insular MCR/MSI fan world.

Anonymous said...

Ricky G is very dry. Love British humor. The best.

Anonymous said...

William Gibson recommended Fincher's version of TGWADT.

Makes me more inclined to want to see it.

Anonymous said...

new

Anonymous said...

Helen Mirren would be a badass Doctor Who!

Anonymous said...

Bob has told a fan that his twitter was deleted by Warner. Wasn't it deleted after he tweeted the 'C*nt' lettering? If so, it makes me wonder how much heat Gerard took after his twitter c*nt bragging and threats to beat women up. It also makes me think if Frank took any heat for tweeting and defending the use of a racist slur. I can imagine Gerard having a right little tantrum if he was confronted about it and told not to do it again by 'the suits'. 'The suits' don't really know what's right; only his racist, rape-promoting wife does.

Anonymous said...

Maybe that's why Gerard doesn't really use his Twitter account anymore.

Anonymous said...

Maybe that's also why MCR don't sell any goddam records anymore.

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Bob has told a fan that his twitter was deleted by Warner. Wasn't it deleted after he tweeted the 'C*nt' lettering?

As if! He got off Twitter after his dog died. It had nothing to do with his artwork whatsoever. Warner deleted his account after he quit the band and they don't give a damn about what offensive things the band members post. As long as the fan sheep don't complain in a number which could endanger (future) album sales, they just don't mind.

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