Monday, October 3, 2011

Why is it okay to call out African American musicians, but not white ones?

I was searching around a while ago for articles about misogyny and racism in music. I found a few of them and noticed a pattern. If you google "Misogyny in music" you will find a lot of links to rap and hip hop music.

Misogyny Set To Music calls out R Kelly.

Here's the Top 10 Misogynistic Rap Songs That Women Love, which calls out Lil Jon, Snoop, Yin Yang Twinz.

Chris Brown, Tyler the Creator and mostly other African American musicians are always, always getting called out.

Then, google "mindless self indulgence misogyny" and "mindless self indulgence racism" and what will you find? Nothing more than a bunch of white people defending the sexism and racism by saying it's "clearly ironic," "tongue in cheek," "Jimmy Urine says he's not a racist so obviously he's not" and "how can they be sexist with women in the band?" And my favorite, "MSI is reclaiming those social slurs."

So my question is, why is it acceptable for these white people to "reclaim slurs" and use slurs "in irony" but when an African American musician does it, there is a huge outcry?

I also notice that the people who post here are the only ones really calling out privileged white men like Frank Iero and Gerard Way on saying horribly racist and misogynistic things on Twitter. If an African American spoke like that on Twitter, what would the reaction be?

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Anonymous said...

Okay. Yeah, thanks. I was having a little bit of a hard time navigating the website, but I found it.

I like your article. It sums up a lot of the same feelings I have, although I'm not part of hitrecord. It seems like a really cool place. Good job. :D

kapunua said...

It is a really cool place, nonnie, and if you have spare creative urges hanging around, you should join up. :) Though yeah, it is a bitch to navigate until you get used to it.

Anonymous said...

They say for the first time they know where they're headed as a band

No more wank is the weapon stuff?

Anonymous said...

For the first time?

So all the other stuff was just what? Misguided, misdirected b.s.?

Anonymous said...

All the other stuff was necessary to get them to where they're going now. Much like every one else and every other occupation in life. There are paths, roads, detours, byways and highways. They all get us to where we are meant to be if you have a little faith.

Anonymous said...

They say for the first time they know where they're headed as a band

That could change again after their vocalist returns from his wife's backbending around America tour.

Anonymous said...

Can someone please enlighten me on what is the pupose of continuing to post comments about elena at mayo's? What do you hope to gain by bullying her to this extent? It needs to stop. Now.

Anonymous said...

I don't give a crap about Elena or Mayo's. What the fuck are you even talking about?

Lynn said...

They say for the first time they know where they're headed as a band



I thought they said that last time when they were going to do the rock album without costumes and makeup. Maybe they will put out a country album and call it GeeBob and the Jersey slickers.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they will put out a country album and call it GeeBob and the Jersey slickers.

LOL!

Seriously, I don't think they will ever know what the fuck they want or what the fuck they're doing. Sometimes I think they just sit around and try to make up soundbites.

Anonymous said...

To anyone who is getting on Elena's case and calling her a "fangirl" and other derogatory names. I wonder how you would feel of Joseph Gordon Leavitt were to get married? Or Tom Hardy.

You are all fangirls yourself here. This is purely hypocritical.

Anonymous said...

Last time I checked, Tom Hardy was engaged, and nobody here seems to be terribly unhappy about that. Charlotte Riley is beautiful and I hope they will be very happy together.

As for JGL, if he gets married I will be very happy for him. Why wouldn't I be?

I happen to have a huge crush on Matthew Gray Gubler right now, and if he were to get married I would be happy for him as well.

I'm not so emotionally crippled that I think my current celebrity crush actually belongs to me. Who does that? Sheesh.

Anonymous said...

Stop assuming things. You really don't know who the identity of the person relentlessly attacking Elena It may even be a friend of Lindsey's.

Anonymous said...

I think it very well could be a friend of Lindsey's, or maybe just a big fan of hers. A whole lot of MCR's fans are big Lindsey/MSI fans as well. If it's true that Elena calls Lindsey names in her stories, that's going to set some MCR fans off, and we all know what happens when you get the MCRmy on your bad side.

Anonymous said...

Who gives a flying fuck? I get really sick of hearing about those morons at Mayo's.

Anonymous said...

Human speech is like a cracked tin kettle, on which we hammer out tunes to make bears dance when we long to move the stars.

kapunua said...

What 5:27 said exactly. Tom Hardy is getting married, and I think Charlotte Riley is AD:GJHS:GLJGS gorgeous. JGL was with Lexi for just about ever and I found her adorable. Ewan McGregor has been married for... well, for longer than he has been secretly married to me. ;D

If/when either of those two get married, why the eff would I care?

UNLESS, you know, JGL got married to some damn moron whose idea of a joke was LOLing about raping children, and calling women and minorities disgusting names. And if he started flaunting his privilege and being abusive to people.

In which case I'd say exactly the same things to and about him that I say to and about Asshead Way.

Anonymous said...

I happen to have a huge crush on Matthew Gray Gubler right now

Oh wow, you, me and practically everyone else I know. He's just so darn cute!

kapunua said...

I have to agree, he is adorkable. But I find myself more focused on Shemar Moore when I watch Criminal Minds. OMG, he is a pretty, pretty man.

Anonymous said...

Shemar is gorgeous. So gorgeous in fact that I almost have a hard time looking at him. I cannot find one single flaw in that man!

kapunua said...

I know, I was stunned when I found out he's, what, 41 or something? He looks so damn good. Also, best eyebrows ever.

Anonymous said...

Just watched Adam Lambert front Queen at the EMA's. He was pretty good too. Gerard must be so jealous right now. Lol.

Anonymous said...

MTV Awards are usually complete rubbish, and this year was not much different, but Queen's performance with Adam Lambert made it worth watching. That man has some pipes!

Anonymous said...

Say what you want about American Idol but some great vocalists have come out of that show. The world wouldn't know Adam Lambert, Kelly Clarkson, Fantasia or David Cook without American Idol.

Anonymous said...

David Cook's new video for his latest single Fade Into Me premiered Nov 1. Gives me butterflies in my tum tum.

Anonymous said...

UNLESS, you know, JGL got married to some damn moron whose idea of a joke was LOLing about raping children, and calling women and minorities disgusting names. And if he started flaunting his privilege and being abusive to people. In which case I'd say exactly the same things to and about him that I say to and about Asshead Way

Look, you obviously don't know anything about intelligence work lady.

It's an XK-Red/27 technique.

Anonymous said...

I don't care for American Idol. Other than Adam Lambert (who didn't even win), I can't think of anyone from that show who has impressed me very much. And then we have it to blame for dredging up and resurrecting the careers of Paula Abdul and J-Lo, not to mention unleashing Simon Cowell on the world. Ugh.

I love Adam's voice, but I don't really care for the music he releases on his own. :(

kapunua said...

A Fish Called Wanda was one of my favorite movies, anon, but I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

Anonymous said...

I sort of get why the remaining band members of Queen approached Adam. He has the type of flamboyance that exuded from Freddie.

Anonymous said...

Why is it that every single time MCR doesn't automatically win something, their fans accuse the winning band's fans of cheating?

I don't even give a fuck about the EMAs, and I don't know anybody who does really, but I do like 30stm, and I'm sick of MCR fans tweeting and making posts on their tumblrs saying that they only won the EMAs they were up for because their fans always cheat. I honestly did not even know you could vote. I never voted even once, and I know a lot of other fans who didn't vote either.

Talk about a bunch of sore losers.

Anonymous said...

Yawn 2.04 no one cares!

If you don't like the tweets don't read them, that's a solution to your little problem.

Anonymous said...

How about if MCR fans don't watch the EMAs (or any other awards) if it upsets them so much that MCR never wins. Cuz they never, ever do. That would fix their little problem. :)

Anonymous said...

They have won before but they don't win often. If you don't want to see mcr fans complaining about not winning don't read the tweets. Its not hard. Why come on here and complain about it? We don't care about it, if it bothers you so much go tweet about.

Anonymous said...

They have won before but they don't win often. If you don't want to see mcr fans complaining about not winning don't read the tweets. Its not hard. Why come on here and complain about it? We don't care about it, if it bothers you so much go tweet about.

Anonymous said...

Apparently you do care, 5:02, or you wouldn't be responding.

MCR fans. Whining, complaining, accusing others of cheating, and generally bringing the LOLS.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I don't like being called a "cheater" or a member of a "cult" just because I'm a fan of 30 Seconds to Mars.

MCR fans are a pathetic bunch of whiny ass sore losers. 30STM is just more popular than MCR right now and MCR fans are just going to have to learn to deal with it.

Anonymous said...

Apparently you do care, 5:02, or you wouldn't be responding.

I'm responding because its a stupid thing to complain about. Moaning about MCR fans moaning about losing. Really? Is that all you have to talk about?

Anonymous said...

When I open up my tumblr, and my dashboard is full of posts tagged "30stm" that go on about how we're all a bunch of cheaters, then yes. It is something to complain about.

Anonymous said...

Right but my point is why do you care what a bunch of teenagers say? Its not going to effect your everyday life is it? or maybe for you it will. If you know you're not a cheater and you believe your fanbase doesn't cheat then why do you care what they say at all?

Anonymous said...

I just think they should be more considerate of other fanbases.

MCR fans go ballistic when anyone criticises them or their beloved band, yet they are the first ones to talk trash about other bands. They have a double standard that is so absurd, it reminds me of Religious crazies. It's annoying.

Besides, this is the place where we come to bitch about all things MCR. So, if you don't like it, might I suggest that you take your own advice and scroll past?

Anonymous said...

Moaning about MCR fans moaning about losing. Really? Is that all you have to talk about?



Lol.

Moaning about 30stm fans moaning about MCR fans moaning about losing. Really? Is that all you have to talk about?

Anonymous said...

scroll past what exactly? this is the latest topic of conversation unfotunately.

That can be said about all fanbases, they should all be more considerate, they all go ballistic when someone says something about their beloved person or band and they all trash talk each other. If you think MCR fnas a bad you need to see the beliebers and the Cher lloyd fans they are the worst. Bottom line is they all do it, it will happen again and there's nothing anyone can do about it until the fans grow up and mature, so ignore it and get over it.

Anonymous said...

Moaning about 30stm fans moaning about MCR fans moaning about losing. Really? Is that all you have to talk about?

Not moaning just saying.

Anonymous said...

Really. That is ridiculous, old and boring. All fanbases have rabid fans who do the exact same thing. It's not unique to the MCRmy.


Let's talk about Jennifer Anniston's confession that she's in love with Chelsea Handler.




"Chelsea Handler is not only one of the funniest and the brightest and the sexiest women on the planet. She is inspiring a generation of women to be bold and daring and express exactly what is on their minds, whatever that may be."

Anonymous said...

""It's really hard not to admire a dynamic, brash and ridiculously hilarious woman who has assembled such a large and rabid fan base -- and she's drunk half the time!" declared Aniston, getting huge laughs from the audience."




Chelsea do got it going on.

Anonymous said...

If you're looking for some female on female love you won't find it here . These bitches r only good at self love and posse' love. Kiss their ass and they'll love you. Disagree with them and you're a worthless troll or a useless moron. That's a fact.


Feminist blog, my ass. Blog against bigotry and racism, my ass. These people no more support equality of race, sex and religion or the art of individualism than the KKK.

Anonymous said...

*rolls eyes*

Anyway...

JGL covers R. Kelly's Ignition".

This cracked me up. :)

kapunua said...

JGL is so much fun. The freakin' weekend indeed. :) Oh, I heard he just signed on to do a film with Tarantino. That probably means he's going to get shot in the face or something.

Anonymous said...

lol can't deny that was quite entertaining and funny. His cover was very good.

Is he on drugs though? He kind of moves like a pot-smoker ya know? Like he smokes green a lot.

Oh well never mind the cover was fab!

Anonymous said...

How does someone who smokes weed move? He just looks like he's hyped up from being onstage to me.

That cover was great. :D

Anonymous said...

So the rumours about the Tarantino film are true?

Sweeet. I saw 50/50 over the weekend (finally) and loved him in it. The part where he lost it in the car was especially moving. :(

I really liked Anna Kendrick too, and of course, Anjelica Huston was amazing. Good film.

Anonymous said...

I love Leo DiCaprio, I do. But I could not help but lol at this. I thought of Lincoln Osiris' speech to Tugg Speedman about going "full retard".

Anonymous said...

You dumbasses just GAVE YOURSELVES AWAY at Mayo's. You are caught. Not like everyone didn't know it was you over there, but now we have the proof, right out there in the open. FAIL.

Keep your stupid hypocrisy over here, and keep your JGL fangirling over here. STOP coming to Mayo's.

Anonymous said...

What's with you Mayo crazies anyway? Can't you go a couple of weeks without pretending that someone from here is attacking you?

Anonymous said...

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lugqqiqyUY1qcke5uo1_400.png

what a lovely way to think of your 'lovechild'

Anonymous said...

Or rather her child. A love child is one born out of wedlock.

Anonymous said...

I think this blog will die now that MCR is no longer out on tour and probably won't have a record coming out for a couple of years. After all, Lindsey is going out on tour with her band and Gerard won't have time to record -- he has the Killjoys comic to write and he'll either have to stay home with Bandit or go out following Lindsey/MSI around.

After they play Big Day Out, I think it will be a long, long time before we hear anything else from MCR.

kapunua said...

Happy 11/11/11, guys! :)

Nonnie who saw 50/50: OMG, I was actually crying. It was so harsh. Yet it was also so funny.

7:19, LMAO! Poor Leo. He's really grown on me over the years. He kinda does deserve that recognition, I think. That was too funny though. Some of the editing people come up with is awesome.

Anonymous said...

You'll be hearing more from MCR sooner than you think. Take Frank's Coldcave song rec The Great Pan Is Dead and Ray's Ozzy song rec while they're busy writing new shit, goddamn it.

Anonymous said...

I have no idea what you're talking about.

kapunua said...

Sharing some adorableness. :)

Anonymous said...

That's cute, like he's loyal to an old friend.

Anonymous said...

I have no idea what you're talking about

I wouldn't be too concerned. It will just be another MSIcr recording.

Anonymous said...

oh yeah

Anonymous said...

The wanker is at it again http://twitter.com/#!/geewaysheart

Anonymous said...

Is that supposed to be Gerard Way? Oh dear guess Mayo's isn't enough for him *rolls eyes*

Anonymous said...

Is that Mayo's official twitter? LOL.

Anonymous said...

Is that supposed to be Gerard Way? Oh dear guess Mayo's isn't enough for him *rolls eyes*

Oh come on! That wouldn't be that conceited, arrogant, big-headed, self absorbed rockstar who is either bragging about himself or his Mrs? Noooo

kapunua said...

3:42 made me go ";asdjgha;lsghas;lfkg!!!!"

OMG, he looks so nice in grey.

Anonymous said...

Marches his eye color which is pretty.

Anonymous said...

*matches

Anonymous said...

Tom's always gorgeous. I got The Take from Netflix a few days ago and was blown away by how gorgeous he looks in the opening credits.

Too bad he's such a creep in that. :/

Anonymous said...

Oh! And cute pics of JGL on your tumblr, K!

kapunua said...

yup, very cute! :)

I have yet to see The Take. That's gonna be a tough one to watch, huh?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, The Take was hard to watch, especially the first CD. I almost didn't watch the second part because it was so violent and Freddie (Tom) was so awful.

kapunua said...

Joe is down at Occupy Wall Street. ^_^

Anonymous said...

Glad to see this place is dead.

Anonymous said...

You came here just to say that 7:59? Moron.

Anonymous said...

MCR is gone and for the most part, no1curr. So it kind of figures that this place would die down.

Anonymous said...

I'm impressed with JGL that he would partake in the OWS protests. People like him, easily recognizable and with a certain amount of influence need to start taking an interest in the current state of things. Nothing is going to change until people with more power start to care. Major repsect for Mr. Joe.

kapunua said...

Have you seen his collection of clips and interviews? He went down there the night of the raid and stayed until morning, recording everything and talking to people about it.

Anonymous said...

No I haven't, Kapunua. Could you please link those here? Thanks, if you can. I'd really like to know what he said. I hope some sense of change comes out of all this. There are too many people that need it.

kapunua said...

Nonnie, I don't have them up on my browser right now (and am running out the door to work,) but they are up on the front page of hitrecord.org. Some of those clips are just amazing. :D

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Kapunua. I'll definitely check it out.

Anonymous said...

You know what they say 7.59 if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. I reckon thats why this blog is so damn quiet these days :)

Anonymous said...

2:19 you obviously live in some fairytale kingdom.

Anonymous said...

I heard there's been a blogger ban on anonymous bullies spreading hate speech and lies.

Anonymous said...

You're on the wrong blog 5:52.

Anonymous said...

Do I 2.19? Explain

Anonymous said...

Lol clearly not paying attention to what I'm doing. I mean 4.34 not 2.19. Duh!

kapunua said...

Welshie, are you still hanging around these parts? Because I have to tell you, I started watching Torchwood and I'm totally obsessed with the Welsh accent. ^_^

Anonymous said...

Do I 2.19? Explain

If you have some semblance of a brain then I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself.

Anonymous said...

cute

Anonymous said...

Well you're the one who can't explain it 7.44 so I'm gonna say even you don't understand your own comment.

Anonymous said...

Oh yes I do 2:51, but if you haven't worked it out that's your problem, not mine :)

Anonymous said...

Its actually your problem if you can't explain your own comment 3.33Just say you can't explain it and we'll leave it at that.

Anonymous said...

Thanks everyone. I just watched Mysterious Skin on Netflix. How can anyone recommend that movie???

Anonymous said...

No it's not 6:19, and considering the stupid comment you made 2:19 it's to be expected.

Anonymous said...

"How can anyone recommend that movie???"


because it's a beautiful movie. Don't say you weren't warned though.

Anonymous said...

I think Mysterious Skin is a brilliant movie. It deals with very sensitive and disturbing subject matter, and it really drives home the devastating effects of child sexual abuse. I'm glad I watched it, and I have recommended it to lots of people.

However, I have never recommended it to anyone without first telling them about its sensitive subject matter, and to my knowledge, neither has anyone on this blog. Whenever the movie gets brought up, we always talk about how disturbing it is.

Anonymous said...

idiots of the mcrmy celebrating the anniversary of the album and not one guy in the band has the decency to mention Thursday breaking up

Anonymous said...

How can anyone be against MSI speaking out against the rape of children but when it's JGL it's perfectly fine. MSi has a different approach true, maybe there approach is a satire point of view, making fun of people who are rapists of children. But they are against it.

Anonymous said...

Brilliant movie. No one said it was an easy movie.

Anonymous said...

Shit that didn't work did it. Billy Draco had one of the most heartbreaking scenes in it too.

Anonymous said...

Why does JGL always look like he has lines and dark circles under his eyes? He always looks stoned.

Anonymous said...

He has really bad skin like a druggie.

Anonymous said...

JGL without makeup, yes he is hideous, how can anyone even look at him. That was sarcasm.

Anonymous said...

How can anyone be against MSI speaking out against the rape of children but when it's JGL it's perfectly fine. MSi has a different approach true, maybe there approach is a satire point of view, making fun of people who are rapists of children. But they are against it

Are you insane? Pedophilia and the abuse and exploitation of children is NOT a subject that should be parodied in any way. shape, or form. In my opinion it takes a special sort of imbecile to think lol, I will make a big statement against the rape of children by making a complete joke about pedophiles And it really worked because their fans have become big crusaders against child abuse *rolls eyes*

Anonymous said...

Another point, that empty-headed bassist of theirs indicated I believe in one of her terribly dull interviews, that it(PS) was created to shock and make you question other shocking lyrics. I don't believe she ever mentioned that they were expressing outrage over the subject material they covered in the song.

kapunua said...

They change their story about what that vile song is about in every interview. What it comes down to is that they're a bunch of imbeciles with the sense of humor of drunken idiotic frat-boy bros. Any damage control they try to do is too little, too late.

There is no way to compare Mysterious Skin to "Five Year Old Panty Shot" ffs. The movie is a brutal depiction of the end-results of child abuse and exploitation. The "song" is a bunch of dirtbags laughing about raping five-year-old girls.

kapunua said...

Aside from which, I can tell you that in person JGL is a freaking knock-out with a killer smile. Haters to the left.

kapunua said...

Also: still looking for Welshie! ^_^

Anonymous said...

And that's the whole point Kapunua. I have never watched Mysterious Skin but judging from the responses I had read on this blog, the movie has resonated and the depiction of the abuse and ferocity of it's after effects has shocked people the way they should be shocked.

Anonymous said...

Any damage control they try to do is too little, too late.

That's exactly what I think. Wouldn't surprise me if they start making big statements against child abuse when they start touring again.

Anonymous said...

MSi has a different approach true, maybe there approach is a satire point of view

Their approach is anything to bring attention to themselves and their crappy music. That's about it to my way of thinking.

Anonymous said...

JGL without makeup, yes he is hideous, how can anyone even look at him. That was sarcasm.

Lol. His skin is much, much clearer than Gerard's is without make-up. Talk about bad skin -- and Mikey's is even worse.

kapunua said...

Re: MSI, Exactly. Their backtracking is so cowardly. I would actually have respect for them if they came out and said, "Wow, our past lyrics have been really misguided." That's it, that's all it would take for me.

kapunua said...

10:35, if you ever do get to see it, I can't warn you enough. It earns its NC17 rating and I legitimately couldn't sleep the night I saw it.

Welshie said...

Call off the search Kapunua, I'm here:)

kapunua said...

Hi Welshie! OMG, I started watching Torchwood and could not stop thinking of you. Best accent ever and I kept thinking, "I guess that's what Welshie sounds like!" :D If you really have guys like Ianto Jones over there, send one to me. ^_^

Welshie said...

Wrapping up a Ianto Jones lookalike as we speak:)

Now a Welsh accent's a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it. It's very melodic don't you think?
I swoon when I hear Richard Burton's voice, swoon I tell you. I often listen to him reading poetry.

Hope life's treating you well K. Correct me if I'm wrong but does your name mean a small bird? If so then your name in Welsh is 'Aderyn bach'.

kapunua said...

Thank you Welshie! For the name AND for the Ianto Jones clone en route.^_^ I eagerly await. But the name is so awesome, and yeah you got it right. :D I love names in other languages, it's very meaningful.

"Melodic" is the exact word. I love listening to Eve Myles. Sometimes I don't even pay attention to the plot. ;)

How ya doing, Welshie?

Welshie said...

Gawd sorry I'm late, been peeling spuds see, for my tea like. I'm doin fine thanks. Eldest sister is in hospital. She's expecting her first baby and has horrendous morning/afternoon/night sickness:(

My 19 yr old cousin has just started his MPhys course at Durham University. His Welsh accent is proving very popular with the laydees:) He's keen on martial arts and has started doing Shorinji Kempo. You still doing Kung Fu?

kapunua said...

Congrats to your sister! That's so nice. I hope she's feeling better soon though; that must suck. That's cool about your cousin, too. How awesome for him! :)

I'm still in Kung Fu, had our tea ceremony and everything. A bit different to your tea. ;D

Welshie said...

We're hoping she'll improve in the next week or so. My cousin's studying Thermodynamics this term.

Lovely chatting with you Kapunua. You take care now.

Ta ra:)

kapunua said...

Thermodynamics, that is awesome! Wish I had the mind for that stuff. Best wishes to your sis, too.

Ta ra, I love that. :)

Anonymous said...

Kapunua JGL looking really suave

Anonymous said...

That man can wear a suit like nobody else. :)

kapunua said...

He is just so fly. :D Yeah, he really knows how to work a wardrobe, very spiffy. ^_^ Killer smile!

Anonymous said...

I know you don't look like that all the time, but I love it when a man takes the time to groom and polish himself. They're hot in a suit.

Anonymous said...

The feeling is mutual. Men love it when women take the time to groom and polish themselves. Put on a sexy dress or well fitting jeans, silk or lace blouse and a pair of heals. Neither sex likes looking at something that looks like it just crawled out from behind a dumpster.

Anonymous said...

A few years ago you fangirls were talking about how good MCR looked in their costumes and suits.

Tom Hardy said...

Neither sex likes looking at something that looks like it just crawled out from behind a dumpster.

I am the exception to all ur rules yo xx

Anonymous said...

A few years ago you fangirls were talking about how good MCR looked in their costumes and suits.

Lol. I certainly never did. Geetard & Co. never appealed to me in that way. I always thought they looked like smelly hobos at first, then prettied-up gawth boys circa Helena. Not my cup of tea.

Anonymous said...

A few years ago you fangirls were talking about how good MCR looked in their costumes and suits.

You must be getting mixed up with some other fan forum.

I always thought they looked like smelly hobos at first, then prettied-up gawth boys circa Helena

The gawth/punk/msi technicolor look doesn't do it for me either.

Anonymous said...

11:04 hot is hot suit or not. Only think he should lay off the tats.

Anonymous said...

I always thought they looked like smelly hobos

And they still look like smelly hobos.

Anonymous said...

It's a badge of honor to look like a smelly hobo in the punk world and to have two zillion tattoos or be shacked up/married with someone with two zillion tattoos 5:59.

Anonymous said...

Punk world? LMAO. If you're talking about MCR or MSI, there's nothing punk about either one of them.

Anonymous said...

Good luck with your dog's surgery, Kapunua. Hope everything goes well.

He's adorable, btw.

Anonymous said...

There's no such thing as punk anymore, it's more an image and a way to market yourself.

Anonymous said...

Punk is and always has been about attitude more than anything else. Sound or image. It's about not being afraid to get angry and stand up for yourself. Not being afraid to say fuck you to the world and whatever you think is wrong with it. It's about forming your own image and being yourself rather than conforming to some pre established image and trying to be something and someone that you are not. That's punk.

Anonymous said...

That's just the idea of what punk originally was conceived to be, and MCR/MSI are not punk by that definition.

Anonymous said...

you have all been fooled

Anonymous said...

You tell it the way it really was Vivienne: punk was just another excuse to sell something. Ha!

Anonymous said...

Next time you read dickhead bands like MSI say they're so punk, laugh.

Anonymous said...

Punk came out of a particular era, which is long gone. What so many people consider "punk" today is just people pretending to be something they are not. Bands like MSI are no more punk than MGMT is psychedelic rock. They just like to dress up and pretend.

Anonymous said...

Music evolves like everything else in the world. Today's punk rock can't be compared to punk rock 30 years ago anymore than today's country can be compared to country music 50 years ago.

Taylor Swift isn't Loretta Lynn and no one should expect her or any young country artist to be Loretta Lynn like. What she is, is today's country superstar.

MGMT isn't The Who, Byrds, Cream or The Flaming Lips. What they are is psychedelic rock for a new generation.

Anonymous said...

Shallow, half-assed, and unoriginal? The new generation of music. :(

Anonymous said...

Bands like MSI are no more punk than MGMT is psychedelic rock. They just like to dress up and pretend

In my opinion bands like MSI are neo-conservatives dressed as radicals.

kapunua said...


In my opinion bands like MSI are neo-conservatives dressed as radicals.


EXACTLY.

Anonymous said...

The one who makes her own rules is a textbook definition of following all the rules in the book, to my way of thinking.

Anonymous said...

In my opinion bands like MSI are neo-conservatives dressed as radicals.

EXACTLY.


I don't understand how others can't see this too, it's so transparent imo. I suppose people are easily duped and believe what they want to believe. I have to agree with what Vivienne Westwood had to say about punk/emo being a marketer's dream and a new form of making money. You only have to see it recently: They guessed the mood of the times to promote the save your life mantra which the emo wave relied heavily on.

Anonymous said...

They guessed the mood of the times to promote the save your life mantra which the emo wave relied heavily on.

Now it's the 'keep it ugly' bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Now it's the 'keep it ugly' bullshit.

That's a good line for selling a lot of t-shirts.

Anonymous said...

Now it's the 'keep it ugly' bullshit.

That's a good line for selling a lot of t-shirts.

November 26, 2011 9:25 PM


Maybe he needs to buy another Porsche or more stuff to impress his wife. Whatever, I think it's all spin to make a quick buck. I don't think anything positive that comes out of his mouth is genuine.

Anonymous said...

It's about forming your own image and being yourself rather than conforming to some pre established image and trying to be something and someone that you are not

That's why you latch on to a bunch of pretentious idiots, act exactly like them and blatantly promote them whenever you can. So you can be yourself!

Anonymous said...

Must be the number 1 rule of punk, pretend to be yourself when you're not.

Anonymous said...

He's flinging so much shit into the sterilized eye of the world, oooooooooooooo he's so knowledgeable, such a rebel. Lol.

Anonymous said...

I think he's just an opportunistic hypocritical arrogant sleazeball.

Anonymous said...

It's about forming your own image and being yourself rather than conforming to some pre established image and trying to be something and someone that you are not. That's punk

hooey That's called having a strong sense of self and having the fortitude not to follow the crowd or speak up when something is intrinsically wrong. You don't need to be "punk" to do that.


Punk just seems to be synonymous with being loud and rebellious just for the hell of it.

Anonymous said...

There's a sayin' it's the quiet ones you have to watch...and for good reason.

Anonymous said...

Kapunua if you ever have the chance to see The Secret World of Arrietty by Studio Ghibli, do.


Not sure if it has been released in your part of the world, but I think you will enjoy it.

kapunua said...

Nonnie, I've never even heard of it! But I will be on the lookout for it. I love studio Ghibli stuff. :) Thanks for that rec!

Anonymous said...

Kapunua, the trailer for The Secret World Of Arriety

Anonymous said...

I personally prefer to watch Miyazaki's movies in Japanese.

Anonymous said...

Glad to see this blog has gone to shit.

Anonymous said...

Your face has gone to shit, anon.

Anonymous said...

8:33, Oh, wow, anon. Your reply was just the type of thing I'd expect Gerard or Frank to say.

Anonymous said...

This blog is dead because there's no news coming from the MCR camp. No stupidity from those blockheads = nothing to comment about.

Anonymous said...

Actually 7:12 this blog is more interesting when we talk about things other than silly rawkstahs or their thick wives and friends.

Anonymous said...

No stupidity from those blockheads = nothing to comment about.

Maybe they're still stupid, but it's now private ^_^

Anonymous said...

You mean they've learned what the regs on this blog haven't? Guess that makes them smarter than all of you.

Anonymous said...

their thick wives and friends.



Just can't stop the venom from flowing from your fingertips can you? Tsk tsk.

Anonymous said...

No, thick is thick. Sorry.

Anonymous said...

So what? They think someone is thick...end of the world

Anonymous said...

Kapunua here is the trailer in Japanese, which I consider more satisfying than the dubbed version.

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Better without the tats.

Anonymous said...

Who's Emilie Autumn?

Anonymous said...

She's a goth/alternative singer. It's funny, because she shares somewhat of a crossover fanbase with MCR, but of course all the Lindsey-stalkers are backing Lindsey, because Lindsey and her bully friends are always, always right.

Anonymous said...

Females who passively accept and justify the sexualization and degradation of their own sex in music do so because it surrounds them and they cannot see that misogyny is a fundamental part of human society.

Anonymous said...

Females who passively accept and justify the sexualization and degradation of their own sex in music

The problem is, most of these Lindsey fanatics speak out against those sort of lyrics as long as it's anyone but Lindsey and MSI promoting and using them. They just are too obsessed with her, and her shitty racist band, which means that have a huge double standard. Also, they don't want to upset Lord Gerard by calling his ammmaaaaaaazing wife's band out.

Anonymous said...

Some people can't reconcile the people they idolize can be extremely conservative and hold contemptuous beliefs about their own gender. Also deep down they must believe their own "place" at least on a subconscious level.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Jessicka will tell Emilie to 'concentrate on the bigger misogynists' and leave her BFF alone?

Anonymous said...

How could you respect anyone that says things like that?

kapunua said...

That is appalling fangirl behavior as usual, so of course I had to say something about it.

Okay, now I'm gonna have a look at that trailer. Thanks, anon. :)

kapunua said...

Thanks nonnie, I will definitely be seeing that movie!

Anonymous said...

So glad your dog is doing better, Kapunua. Such an adorable guy! Hope he continues to improve.

kapunua said...

Thanks very much! :) I hope so too. He did have a seizure this morning. I hate when that happens. :/

And yesterday we lost Belle, the 13 year old mastiff who was my Gran's dog and lived here after Gran passed. Very sad and difficult day. :(

Thanks nonnie.

Anonymous said...

Kapunua don't get worked up about that girl. I had expected as much from her and what she had to say was all very predictable. She also shares a friendship with her so called woman's advocate so the bias is to be expected.

Anonymous said...

So is the profound ignorance surrounding these people.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe MSI are going to tour again. I wonder if LynZ's actually learned to play the bass for real since their break?

Welshie said...

Kapunua, I'm so terribly sorry you lost Belle. What a sad time for you. I do hope your dog gets better soon.

Anonymous said...

The hilarious thing is, I believe Emilie is friends with our part-time feminist Jessicka. The irony!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if LynZ's actually learned to play the bass for real since their break?

As long as she's miming the bass or sticking her paper bits together with glue instead of making offensive and cruel 'jokes' about thousands of dead Japanese, I don't give a shit.

Pixie said...

As long as she's miming the bass or sticking her paper bits together with glue instead of making offensive and cruel 'jokes' about thousands of dead Japanese, I don't give a shit

Or flashing her knickers whilst doing a backbend.

kapunua said...

9:24, which girl? There are a few who have sent me ridiculous messages on my Tumblr since yesterday. As expected. :/

Welshie, thank you. Yeah, I miss her and I keep looking for her. Haku is chilling in his bed right now and he seems comfy. ^_^

I have to tell you, every time Mom and I watch Torchwood we say, "I'll bet that's Welshie's house" just for kicks. ;D

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