What do you guys think of Jay-Z's recent announcement?
Jay-Z has vowed to never use derogatory terms for women in his music again following the birth of his daughter, Blue Ivy Carter.
The rapper, who welcomed his first child with wife Beyoncé last weekend, has stated in a poem to celebrate the birth of baby Blue Ivy that he will drop the use of 'b*tch' - revealing that his degradation of women in his songs "has passed."
"Before I got in the game, made a change, and got rich/ I didn't think hard about using the word b*tch/ I rapped, I flipped it, I sold it, I lived it/ Now with my daughter in this world I curse those that give it. I never realized while on the fast track that I’d give riddance to the word bitch, to leave her innocence in tact."
The hip-hop icon continued:
"No man will degrade her, or call her name. I'm so focused on your future, the degradation has passed. I wish you wealth, health and insight. Forever young you may pass. Blue Ivy Carter, my angel."
I personally think of this as a start, but only that. He still has a lot of work to do. We see this with men a lot. They have a daughter and all of a sudden they don't like to see women degraded. There are two problems I see with this immediately.
One: Didn't his wife count as a woman who shouldn't be degraded? Or wasn't she "innocent" enough? He seemed to think it was all right for "non-innocent" women to be degraded.
And OK fine, it is good that he can see it from a different perspective now that he has a daughter and maybe he will extend this feeling to all women. I hope so. I hope he can continue to learn.
But the second problem is that it is still about HIM. It took him personally experiencing the feeling of "this is too close to me now and I don't want it to happen" in order for him to change.
Or as another anonymous commenter said on this blog,
I don't understand, Why does something dramatic have to happen in someone's life before they decide "Oh, yeah I gotta stop being this way because I don't want some one to mess with mine in the future."
Men should respect women not because the disrespect upsets men, but because it oppresses women. At least that is what I believe in cases like that.
However I still want to say that it is a good start and in my own opinion, if he continues to learn more about oppression and misogyny, then maybe he will come to realize this. I have hope.
We didn't hear a word like this from Gerard Way, Lindsey Way, or Frank Iero when they had daughters. Not one of them came forward and said "I never thought about how women were treated until I had a daughter, now I think I'll stop degrading them." So also in my opinion, Jay-Z is way ahead of them. MSI and MCR are still in the dark ages.
Also, I wish all of you a happy and healthy new year and the best of luck in 2012.
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1 – 200 of 1252 Newer› Newest»Having a child seems to have had the opposite effect on Gerard. Now he is 'proud' to use sexist slurs based on genitalia towards underage girls online! Now he is 'proud' to threaten to beat a girl so bad she 'dies slow'!
Why didn't he stop using the word b**** when he fell in love with Beyonce? Was she not worthy? You'd think Beyonce would have given him a hard time for using that word, what with her being all for girl power.
So he has a baby girl and women suddenly deserve respect in his eyes, not before? What a strange world.
So he has a baby girl and women suddenly deserve respect in his eyes, not before? What a strange world.
Isn't it, though.
However I still want to say that it is a good start and in my own opinion, if he continues to learn more about oppression and misogyny, then maybe he will come to realize this. I have hope.
I agree, it is a start. It makes you wonder how little some men have really been educated regarding oppression and misogyny. I mean, they all had mothers, or maternal figures. I do understand that perhaps previous generations were not forthcoming with equality and such. You would like to hope that that may change more in the future. But when you read such ignorant comments from alot of teenage fans (of varying fanbases, but I have mainly experienced MCR, MSI fans) it makes you despair. Why aren't their mothers and fathers teaching them?
Well, fingers crossed for the future.
Thanks for the new post VV, and Happy New Year to you also.
Jay Z is full of shit IMO. He has no respect for women and he never will. He only cares about what is his. What he has pissed on and marked as his. He could care less about women or women's rights. It's the same old same old. Don't fuck with mine. That's it.
He doesn't deserve anymore respect than your neighbor down the street who ogles the teenage girl next door.
It's not any sort of start. It's pure possessional bullshit that should get you all more pissed than anything any member of MCR has ever said.
Yes. It's a this is my baby girl, my property, so don't you fuck with her bullshit. It's disgusting if you ask me.
It's something GW and FI never did. They never tried to use their daughters to gain respect in feminists communities.
Jay Z can kiss my cute, adorable, female ass while he's trying to learn to respect me. What a diaper load of shit.
I agree that Jay-Z should have come to the conclusion that it's wrong to disrespect women long ago. He had a mother, a grandmother, a wife, probably aunts, maybe sisters, female cousins, etc., etc. -- so why the big change now?
I realize that becoming a parent does make you look at the world through different eyes, but good god -- is his daughter the first female he's ever loved? Did he not think the other females in his life were human beings, deserving of respect?
I just don't get it. I really don't.
No. You get it. It's Jay Z and people like him that don't get it and they never will. The users. The real liars. The pretenders. I have no to negative zero respect for him.
Frank Iero and Gerard Way and the rest of their ilk, will never learn. Sure, they'll never use their daughters as an apology, but they will also never EVER see that women are oppressed in the first place and that they are in the wrong with the way they degrade women.
Did he not think the other females in his life were human beings, deserving of respect?
Exactly. It's that kind of bullshit that is always so transparent. Or it should be.
Didn't he have any respect for his own mother? The woman who gave life to him? Are we really suppose to believe that having a female baby has suddenly taught him to not view women as bitches and hos to be used and f*cked? He doesn't care about women any more now than he did a month ago. He just cares about his own daughter. What he built. His property.
What a fucking idiot he is.
I wonder how many millions Jay Z will try to make off of his daughter. I wonder how many more ways he will try to use her.
If Beyonce was smart she would shut his ass up right now or kick him to the curb.
Who said Beyonce was smart? lulz
"No man will degrade her..."
Yeah. Good luck with that, Jay-Z. I think you had best be moving her to another planet if you think that's going to happen.
Jay Z be dreaming and having nightmares about the way he's treated girls all his life. Knowing that his daughter will get exactly what he gave to other men's baby girls. What he gonna do about it? Give it more lip service? That's all it is.
Who knows? Maybe he will have his eyes opened. Maybe he will see how OTHER women are treated, not just his daughter. I don't like the fact that it takes "but this one is MINE" for men to realize the truth, but if it works, it works.
I don't like the fact that it takes "but this one is MINE" for men to realize the truth, but if it works, it works.
I kind of have to agree with you. Progress is progress, no matter how it comes about. I just hope this guy is for real. And if he maybe makes a few more guys stop and rethink the way they see women, he will have done some good.
Sorry, I've been treated fine my whole life, despite my vagina. I so don't get what you obviously educated women are complaining about. I am sorry your experience has not been the same.
What you need to understand that is in the hip hop world you have to do and say certain things. You have to flash your wealth, you have to curse, you have to say Nigga and you have to degrade women. They all do it. Name me one high profile rapper who doesn't say bitch, hoe or nigga, other than Will Smith who is no longer in the game? That behaviour for some unknown reason appeals to the masses and sells records. Its ridiculously sad but true.
Jay-z always says bitch ho etc but he never names names, so as far a we know the women in his songs are fictional characters for the song he's written, that doesn't make it any better but it does bring me back to the point that its expected from the record labels and they have to comply. The hip hop world is a very dark and evil place where there isn't a lot of respect for anything let a lone women.
Many rappers will rap love songs or songs of respect about their Mamas/daughters but then in the next track will turn around and call a woman a ho or a slut. The respect only reaches to those they love but isn't it like that for most people? If a stanger does something to you on the street you might say or think "what a fucking idiot?" but if someone you love did the same thing would you say or think that about them? I know I wouldn't.
I'm glad Jay-Z has decided to censor himself from using that word out of respect for his daughter. I think its good that he's realising just how deaming some of the words he uses are. I think in the beginning it was just business he did what he was told, he made a lot of money etc and now its personal and he choosing to not to use those words in his songs.
I hope that other rappers do the same and I hope that one day they'll all stop calling each other nigga. But I think we're a long way away from that.
Jay Z is a big name in the industry. Maybe he will make other rapper re-think their lyrics? Has Eminem ever used the word b****?
Jay Z is a big name in the industry. Maybe he will make other rapper re-think their lyrics? Has Eminem ever used the word b****?
Hell yeah that was his ex wife's middle name while he was rapping on his earlier
tracks (and that was being nice.) Those songs were really disturbing back in the day... I think there was one song where he said he put her corpse in the trunk or something? Idk, my cousin bought the album home and being as nosy as I was, dammit I listened to the whole cd...
All I have to say is, I was traumatized for week and a half and I never went in that basement again... lol
LOL 7.13 sorry you were so traumatised but I think 6.34 was being sarcastic.
You know what? I love Eminem's albums I really like his songs. He's had quite a hard and messed up life and his songs are like his therapy he gets out his aggression his anger and his angst through his lyrics. I don't mind that his lyrics are offensive some of them I can even relate to on a personal level. I think he's a lyrical genius.
Having had a bad past is no excuse to oppress other people. You don't care that he's oppressive? You think he's a genius? That tells me all I need to know about you.
Eminem is big with the f-word too (not fuck, but f*ggot).
While I agree that he's a very talented lyricist, I don't care for him as a human being, and I don't support him.
Sorry, I've been treated fine my whole life, despite my vagina. I so don't get what you obviously educated women are complaining about. I am sorry your experience has not been the same.
I don't understand you at all. It's great that you have never experienced any negativity stemming from your gender, but how can you close your eyes to the fact that it exists?
I have a good life, and although I have faced discrimination at various points in my life, I have managed to overcome it. However, I don't take my life for granted, nor do I ignore the plight of other women who don't have it as good as I do.
I know lots of women whose husbands want to control them. I know women who have been abused by their spouses/boyfriends. I honestly do not get how you can live in this world and not see other women being abused, discriminated against, and objectified.
I think you must be either very young and naive, or very, very sheltered.
death of danger days http://on.mtv.com/z3sRaQ
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-electronic-music-moved-masses-262044
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/david-guetta-tiesto-skrillex-paradigm-am-only-280762
Having had a bad past is no excuse to oppress other people. You don't care that he's oppressive? You think he's a genius? That tells me all I need to know about you.
And this comment tells me all I need to know about YOU 12.24
Danger Days was a flop.
"but wherever My Chemical Romance go next, you know they'll do so boldly; that's what makes great bands truly great after all: the willingness to push the boundaries, to purvey inspiration, to shake things up ... sometimes even at their own expense."
I wouldn't call MCR a "great band". Thy have a long way to go before they even get close. Danger Days was different, not spectacular. It got your attention for a few minutes, but then you kinda shrugged your shoulders and forgot about it.
Maybe that's why the wifey's going back on tour with her pedo and rape songs. Times are hard at the crouton mansion.
I wonder how much Gerard Way is actually worth?
I would say he was a millionaire, what with songwriting royalties and the comic book royalties.
I also wonder what Mrs Way brought to the table? Nothing much I imagine, except her "artistic ability" and her backbending ability....
Oh and her "rad tattoos"....
I don't think he's got as much money as his fangirls seem to think he's got. If he cared about his 'art' and not about the money, he'd have paid for a decent video himself instead of having to rely on label handouts.
LMAO. JMont, I knew it before I even read the article. Don't know why that guy has such a hard-on for MCR. He always has though. Too bad for he's not the music buying public, and his opinions count for very little when it comes to the people actually buying music.
Danger Days was extraordinary in one way: It was extraordinarily forgettable.
I'm not a fan of theirs 1:22 but I don't agree with you. I think branching out was a good thing for them.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/18/jay-z-bitch-lyrics
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/jan/12/rock-not-dead?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
I think Gerard is worth a decent amount, he has a lot of things going on so I think he's got money in the bag. I doubt Lynz has half of what he has.
I liked Danger Days, it was an easy listen album. Obviously the first 3 were far far better. I think changing direction was good for the band, you don't know what works until you try it.
I'd say Gerard has a couple million in the bank. He's definitely no Bono.
U2 wrapped up the most profitable tour in music history last year. They pulled in $230 million worldwide.
The other top 4 most profitable tours of 2011 were Taylor Swift's US tour with $97 milliion followed by Kenny Chesney at #3, Lady Gaga at #4, and Bon Jovi at #5.
U2, Taylor Swift Top List Of 2011's Highest-Grossing Tours
How do you all feel about SOPA?
SOPA?
Get out. Get out, I need to go to my mind palace.
No to SOPA as it's written now. There are too many grey areas. Yes to future anti piracy and copyright infringement legislation.
I actually have a lot of thoughts on SOPA/PIPA.
And on this post, too, but I'm in the middle of writing a thing and I'll need to come back later with them. :D
9:15, I love Sherlock!
What do you guys think of The Big Brother Brazil rape scandal. It is being alleged that a male member of the house raped a female contestant while she was passed out in bed.
This is the link to the video.
http://youtu.be/RKAo4oy8tE4
I never watched the whole thing, but it's clear something very wrong is happening here.
I am against Sopa/Pipa. I believe the consequences of Sopa are so far reaching that if it is passed it will not only radically alter the structure of the open internet, but it will provide a precedent for defining legal censorship in areas unrelated to piracy or counterfeiting.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397173,00.asp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/08/online-piracy-challenge-sopa-pipa?intcmp=239
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/18/sopa-pipa-consumption-only-internet?intcmp=239
RIP Etta James.
http://mcr-unofficial.livejournal.com/145740.html?thread=7467596#t7467596
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
And if you're wondering if it the crowd got any bigger when MCR took the stage? It didn't:
http://lockerz.com/s/176042310
http://mcr-unofficial.livejournal.com/145740.html?thread=7518284#t7518284
Sad thing: now they're letting in for free anyone with an old BDO ticket or t-shirt cause of how empty it is.
HAHAHA. I guess that's what you get for being a bunch of RACIST, SEXIST douchebags who marry RACIST, SEXIST douchebags.
http://www.mychemicalromance.com/shop/product/usa/demo-lovers-zip-hoodie
if the DD concept sold *so* well, how come there's more and more merch in this retro vibe? whores.
And if you're wondering if it the crowd got any bigger when MCR took the stage? It didn't:
According to tv reports they pulled the biggest crowd of the day, up until their time slot, and this was before the free entry conditions were announced.
NZ BDO sales collapsed because many bands this year were repeat appearances, the decision to have one main stage resulting in a 45 minute gap between some acts, the Boiler Room becoming the Boiler Stage, and the withdrawal of co-headliner Kanye West from the NZ show.
According to tv reports they pulled the biggest crowd of the day, up until their time slot
Too bad the 'biggest crowd of the day' was still shockingly small.
I know a lot of people who still want to like MCR, but they couldn't buy into the Danger Days concept. The dystopian thing has been so overdone in YA novels as of late, and MCR didn't bring anything new to it. It felt like they were just trying to cash in on a trend, and appeal to very young audiences.
As a fairly recent college grad trying to make my way in the world, I find that kind of fantasy very unappealing. It was so juvenile. I enjoyed the Bullets/Three Cheers era so much because it was so angry and rough and unique. It mirrored the way I felt at the time as a high schooler trying to find who I was. The Neon Pretend-Dystopia world of Danger Days just felt like a marketing scheme to me, and I couldn't relate.
the withdrawal of co-headliner Kanye West from the NZ show
Talk about a racist, sexist, douchbag. Kanye West is the king of those. One of the most arrogant, self centered meffers to ever disgrace the face of the earth.
Ticket sales were down because he was announced as a co-headliner not because he decided to withdraw because nobody wanted to see or hear his racist, sexist ass.
He'll forever be remember for what he did to Taylor Swift. In the most deservingly unkind light possible. Asshole.
Kayne West is just one rung about Chris Brown. They should both do the world a favor and just fade into obscurity.
Most people change and develop through life experience. How you experienced your teenage years will be different to how you experience your adult years. I think it's no different for a band. You musically evolve and there will be always people who like the change and those that don't.
You forget people of color can't be racists 2:40. Kanye's rant and total disregard and disrespect to Taylor Swift's win over Beyonce couldn't possibly have been race or racist motivated. No.
lulz
Yeah. That's as ridiculous as saying that their are hispanic and african american gangs who hate and kill each other. We all know that never happens. /sarcasm
Sometimes I think some of these people grew up in Disneyland or in an alternate reality. They sure never grew up in this reality.
Are they losing money? Is that why they are taking any gig they can get? This whole thing is so shameful even I am feeling embarrassed for these guys!
I love the White Whine in here sometimes. No, dumbass, Kanye West can't be racist.
Yes, he can be sexist, and a huge douchebag, and ignorant, and biased, and deplorable.
But he can't oppress white people.
I can't possibly make it any simpler for you.
And Taylor Swift is pretty rude herself sometimes, too. "She wears short skirts and I wear t shirts!" OMG she is a speshul snowflake! Sluts are BAD! Only good girls who don't dress provocatively are good!!
She's just totally oblivious. Lived in her sheltered, privileged world too long I suppose and never heard about gang on gang violence or cared enough about it to research the racist nature of the violence. To her and people like her it's all black and white. They really have no clue. Thankfully people like her are becoming obsolete. Color blind is in and racism is racism.
Yes you fucking idiot, Kanye can be racist and he is racist. What a fucking racist moron she is supporting other racists.
And that should tell us all what we need to know about her.
The white whine
lmao
That's just as hilarious and racist as the angry black woman. Only she too dumb and racist to see it.
Bill Cosby needs to give that girl a good ass spanking. Fucking clueless.
Wow. You are so hateful towards people of color, I can't even.
Either that, or you're a really bad troll.
I'm gonna call troll, because this is 2012 and I really like to think that no one is honestly this clueless and tone deaf. I could be wrong, of course--you could be someone specific--but I really hope you're just a troll.
Somebody should have given her an ass spanking a long time ago. What an entitled privileged feeling brat.
The world don't owe you jack shit. You want it. Work for it like everybody else. Regardless of sex, skin color or religion. I'll give you some advice. You'll never get any where with that big ass chip you have on your shoulder. Nobody owes you a damn thing. No man. No god or goddess. No European. No African. No Mexican. No nothing.
The only hate I see here is you hating on the white whine. White wash your comments all you want. They are there and your ignorant racism is evident for all the world to see. Does JGL know about this? He will soon.
JGL don't like racist of any kind.
Emailing him right now. I can't wait to see his video on how people of color can indeed be racist on HitRecord.
How Racism comes in all shapes, colors and sizes. I think JGL will love that.
Wow. Someone's right-wing butt is really hurt.
Emailing him right now. I can't wait to see his video on how people of color can indeed be racist on HitRecord.
Oh jeez, you are a troll. Sorry to have engaged. But if it makes you feel any better, you have given me a really good laugh with this post. ^_^
Her self important bs is why no one on HR likes her either. She can't see any view other than her own. You would think she would have learned the error of her ways by now. How old is she? 45 and she still thinks that her way is the only way. That her opinion is the only one that holds any weight. Still pulling the race and the wing cards because she has no legit arguement. Tsk. Tsk.
ZOMG you don't agree with you me you right wing idiet! Right wing, right wing, right wing.
And the parties wonder why so many people are choosing to abstain and become independents? It's because of biased idiots like her.
Why they are on this tour?
Seriously, I feel bad for this band they need to retire already seriously!!!
Anon, please give me JGL's email address. I want to email him too. Is it public?
She is 45? Damn she looks good for 45 I call PHOTOSHOP.
Please post JGLs email I want to write to him too.
Did her imaginary boyfriend dump her again? She gets so angry and bitter when she mistakenly thinks a man is interested in her in a sexual way and then finally realizes the truth. That he was only hanging with her to play video games with her like he would any other buddy.
Join hitrecord. You can email him there. His contact info is no big secret. He'd be a real douche if he hid that on his own website.
"I call PHOTOSHOP
"
Photoshop's stock just plummeted. Something's even they can't filter.
Why they are on this tour?
Isn't that part of the job of being a musician???
I'm not seeing JGL email on his hitrecord site. Please tell me where!!
Do I have to join to email him?
Could you just report her whole account to hitrecord?
Now, I honestly do not give a single crap about what this person says about me, because I’m fairly sure it’s someone who’s kind of followed me around the internet since ‘07 or so. However, this person is also a right-wing, “WHITE RIGHTS” kind of person, and they just do not give up on this “BUT WHITE PEOPLE ARE OPPRESSED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR, I SAY THIS AS SOMEONE WHO IS COLORBLIND” nonsense.
This is all going on here which is a long-standing blog that started out as a My Chemical Romance “wtf is happening to this band” blog, and has turned into a place to just call them (and others) out on their cosntant racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic fails.
So, I have no further clues on what I can say to this one ignorant person. I feel like they’re just not getting it. I know I can’t actually force someone to stop being racist and privileged.
But seriously, if anyone has any ideas on how I—a (mostly) white person with white privilege—can have an actual conversation with someone this ignorant, please to be telling me what to say/how to deal.
ETA: Looks like this is a troll. A racist troll, sure, but still just a troll.
Why don't you just say a name, Kapunua?
Hate each other all you want. But stop arguing like this in a public forum. It's gone on long enough and it's embarrassing to read of all of you. Just stop it.
8:38, if I'd known it was her, I wouldn't have even bothered answering. We have some trolls, and most of them are repeat visitors, but it's impossible to tell at first who is who. When someone starts getting racist and saying ignorant things, and I have no clue who it is, I'm going to say something like anyone else. It's not until they show their hand that I realize who it is. I don't go around looking for her/them. Note that they always come here.
So consider that before you go taking an attitude.
Happy Chinese new year's eve Kapunua!
Wow, Kapunua, you have some seriously obsessed stalkers! It's almost as if you're a celebrity yourself with maniacs lurking, intent on bringing you down.
Chinese New Year! Nonnie, I had no idea it was today until you said that. Drat, I hate when I haven't made plans. Well, but thank you! Same to you.
8:27, I think it's just the one or possibly two. You don't have to be anything close to "celebrity" for that, you just had to have pissed a handful of people off at Mayo's. This happens to people on the internet all the time; this and worse. This one just made me lose my job a few years ago, but worse things have happened to other people with internet stalkers. I was lucky. It's less to do with me and more with them.
I love how all these crazy right-wingers are so bent out of shape about racism towards white people. Are they that offended by Frank using racial slurs? Are they this vocal about Lindsey laughing about the deaths of thousands of Japanese people? Are they upset over MSI's song 'N*gger', or the revolting lyrics of Jimmy's other disgusting project?
Anyway, here's a really good article about what I was talking about yesterday, for anyone who is genuinely interested and not just coming here to act insane:
The purpose of this exercise was to show you white folks that we (POC) don’t have a choice. I can’t go outside right now and be secure in the knowledge that I won’t be met with some level of discrimination based on my appearance. I can’t turn on the TV and be secure in the knowledge that representations of my race won’t be overblown caricatures or typecasted roles.
People of color don’t have the option of bursting into tears and storming off, because you—white folks—have the power to take away from us what we have. Our rights, our freedoms, our livelihood. You getting your feelings hurt by some person of color is not the equivalent to me having to swallow the poisonous racism of my teachers from middle school to college. To fucking college. That’s over twenty years of racism from people who are supposed to be responsible for my education.
Your feelings regarding racism against POC do not matter because it isn’t about you. You’re not losing anything having these discussions. You still get to go outside and be as white and carefree as ever. You get no sympathy from me just because a Black girl made fun of you in school one time, and suddenly you think you’ve gleaned what it means to be oppressed because of your race. Calling you a “Ginger” because of your red hair and freckles isn’t oppression. It’s mean, but in the end you still come out as privileged and white as ever.
9:21, of course they are not. Because after all, "SOME OF THEIR BEST FRIENDS ARE BLACK" and all.
If that's what 45 looks like I want to know the secret.
Anyone here watch Sherlock?
No Kapunua, but I can tell you that I had a lovely yum cha with my friends of Chinese descent to celebrate the new year.
Lovely! :)
I watched this series of Sherlock, but I've not seen the first. I need to go on iplayer before they get removed.
Hi Kapunua. Hi anons.
I do indeed watch Sherlock. My favourite episode was A Scandal in Belgravia. Brilliant.
sorry to disappoint you anon but the first series is no longer on BBCiplayer. Only the last episode available.
Oh that sucks! I swear BBC3 ran an advert on Saturday that said 'catch up with Sherlock from the beginning' or something, so I just assumed they meant the first series would be online. Bummer!
Hi Welshie! Oooh another Sherlock fan!
Welp, I would have loved Scandal in Belgravia since it has some of the best acting in the whole series, BUT, Steven Moffat (who's pretty vocal about how he thinks women are inferior,) made a mess of Irene Adler. Holmes outwits her, Holmes wins, and eventually he saves her. In the book, she outwitted him and escaped without his help.
Moffat can suck a fat, juicy one, but aside from that, I am still getting enjoyment out of the acting and some of the writing on that show. I love Mark Gatiss! And I just love Benedict Cumberbatch, too.
I don't get BBC, but PBS just started playing Sherlock on Sundays after Downtown Abbey. ^_^ However, I downloaded the second season before they blew up Megaupload. :D No regrets!
12:38, also it's' on Netflix streaming!
Oh my giddy aunt! Downton Abbey followed by Sherlock. How fantabulous:)
I agree with you about that episode having the best acting in the series. I've not read the book so wouldn't know about Steven Moffat's portrayal of Irene Adler.
Benedict Cumberbatch is just too good or words:D
*for words
Methinks Sherlock's melting my brain:(
I missed the first season of Downtown Abbey so I have no clue what is going on. I was very confused, but it has Maggie Smith in it and I just love her. Welshie, if you are really interested, here's why Steven Moffat needs a time-out to think about the things he's said. :) I tweeted him this link too, and a few other people did as well. He's kind of an a-hole!
But there's no denying that Sherlock is an awesome series and the acting is stellar. I like the way it is filmed, too (though the blurriness sometimes makes me want to squint.) And I love Martin Freeman, how awesome is he!
I've heard Sherlock is coming back for a season 3, too.
Kapunua, in my humble opinion, the first series of Downton Abbey was by far the best. Have you seen the Xmas episode? Maggie Smith is superb.
Andrew Scott is brilliant as Jim Moriarty. Those eyes. Eek:/
Yes indeedy, there is going to be a third series of Sherlock. Cannot wait.
I'll have a look at your link K.
Thanks, Welshie!
I've only seen the one episode of DA so far. I think I really need to start from the beginning because I had no idea who was who. :)
Moriarty - at first I was like, "Really? Is that how they're playing him?" But then he ended up being so off his nut, going from doofy and amusing to explosively violent that he ended up freaking me out. Which I think was the point. He did a really good job!
testing.
What happened to Mayo's?
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What happened to Mayo's?
Mayo's blog is still there. Seems fine to me.
I've a question to ask you people just out of curiosity, so I hope you don't mind.
I know most of you were MCR fans at one stage, although I profess I never was. I'm wondering what sort of music do you listen to now?
Also is anyone familiar with the Briggs-Myer type indicators? Does anyone know their mbti?
Florence and The Machine, Adele, Foster the People, Kasabian, Beyonce. The list goes on.
Muse, Elbow, The Mummers, Paul Weller, Gogol Bordello, David Bowie, Stereophonics, Arctic Monkeys, Take That, Jamiroquai, Chas & Dave, Bjork, Super Furry Animals, Mumford and Sons, Kasabian, Queen, Marina and the Diamonds,
*pops in to say hello*
I was reading elsewhere that some people I value hang out over here so I'm popping in to say hi. I hope it's ok to hang out here every now and again. It's nice to find somewhere to have a good old discussion.
Have a great weekend everyone.
Of course it's okay, Misty! Nice to read you. :)
Is everyone just seeing 200 comments at Mayo's?
http://kidsxheroes.tumblr.com/post/16635271290
Oh Kellie, you're an MSI fan. You might want to examine your own obese hypocrisy.
Who's Kellie?
I would just like to say I have just discovered Michael Fassbender, and, oh my freakin' goodness, is that man handsome.
Also very talented. ;)
Kellie is one of the Lindsey stalkers who flew into the US to visit the art show. She also uses every chance she can get to force her shitty fan art onto Gerard abnd Lindsey. She hates people using sexist, homophobic or racist slurs (apart from when MSI do it, because 'it's clear they're not serious lol!').
Anon, you might want to look into Fassbender's past. He beat the shit out of his former girlfriend and put her in hospital. The man's a piece of shit.
I heard about that, but didn't his ex withdraw the case saying she didn't want to hurt his career? I mean, if a guy had beaten me up so badly, I would have made sure he was punished for it, screw his "career". I'm just not sure if it's true.
Lots of women are put under pressure to drop those kind of charges, sometimes emotional pressure. It's not unusual, and doesn't mean 'thye made the whole thing up'. She was admitted to hospital and there was clear evidence of an assault.
I heard about that, but didn't his ex withdraw the case saying she didn't want to hurt his career? I mean, if a guy had beaten me up so badly, I would have made sure he was punished for it, screw his "career".
IF IT WAS YOU. Some women never report crimes against them. Some report them but then are given reason to redact their statements. By money, or intimidation, or being made to feel that they're "making a bid deal out of it" or that it's "too much trouble."
This is what happened to the girl I used to work with, the one I got fired for. She didn't go to the police because she thought the whole ordeal would be too hard. And you know what, she's right, it IS hard.
I'm not 100% sure if this is true, but it sounds true, and if so, she retains her right to not want to pursue it. That doesn't mean he's automatically some kind of great guy. if it is true, he's the worst kind of POS.
Is everyone just seeing 200 comments at Mayo's?
Yes, I am. However if you click on the blogpost name "Voracious" you can read all the comments on a black background. Not sure wtf is going on with Blogger.
While I know that women often don't report abuse, I also know that women are capable of lying to get back at men who leave them.
Michael Fassbender's ex-girlfriend dropped the charges against him. Also, at the time she applied for the restraining order, he was in another country, so that does make the circumstances seem suspicious.
Only the parties involved know what actually happened there. Michael Fassbender may very well be a horrible woman abuser, but there isn't enough evidence to convict the guy, therefore until I have more to go on than just a retracted complaint, filed months after the fact, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
And yes, he is very talented. Amazingly so. Everyone should see his performance as Bobby Sands in Hunger, as well as his Rochester in Jane Eyre. Both were breathtaking.
You wanna know who I think is a creep and a POS? Tom Hardy. He left the mother of his child because he fell in love with his co-star in Wuthering Heights. I hate men who aren't capable of being faithful.
Unfortunately, people break up. If you cut out everyone in your life who has strayed/broke up/fell in love with someone else at the "wrong time," you probably wouldn't be left with much. It's happened to my family, too.
I don't think you can call Tom Hardy a POS for breaking up with the mother of his child. It happens. It's unfortunate, but we don't know what went on between the two of them. We should not automatically blame Tom.
The same goes for Michael Fassbender. We don't know what happened between him and his ex, we can only speculate. That's why I give him the benefit of the doubt.
There's a big difference between giving someone the "benefit of the doubt" over a break up which happens to everyone, and giving someone the "benefit of the doubt" over putting a woman in the hospital, which there is proof of.
Are you suggesting that since "we don't know what went on between them" she somehow might have had it coming?
I just realized that Gerard has really long fingers.
Apparently Michael Fassbender and the woman who made the claims against him "hooked up" at a Golden Globes party a few weeks ago. Whatever happened between them, it doesn't seem like a healthy relationship to me.
It's sadly not unusual for women to go back time and time again to abusive, emotionally manipulating men. I hope she can break away and find someone who doesn't need to smack women around (or threaten to - hi, Gerard!) to feel big.
Are you suggesting that since "we don't know what went on between them" she somehow might have had it coming?
Not, not at all. What I'm saying is that there is no evidence that this woman was "put in the hospital" by Michael Fassbender. She had an ovarian cyst, which puts women in the hospital all of the time. He was out of the country when she filed the charges, and the whole thing does look suspicious.
I said that he may very well have done the things she said, but if you are always going to automatically assume that a man is guilty when a woman makes a charge against him, that's wrong. I don't know this woman, any more than I do Mr. Fassbender, and I don't have enough evidence to unequivocally say that he's guilty. Neither do you.
I just realized that Gerard has really long fingers.
Long and slim signifies more of an emotional and aggressive type of person. That,or he has a pencil peter! LOL!
She had an ovarian cyst, which puts women in the hospital all of the time.
And I suppose she threw herself off the bed and burst her own ovarian cyst, did she? Stop defending a woman-beating idiot. Next you'll be telling us Gerard was 'just joking' when he threatened to beat a woman so bad he'd kill her.
Stop defending a woman-beating idiot.
You obviously have very poor reading comprehension skills. I'm not going to argue with you anymore, because you've already tried and convicted Mr. Fassbender.
And you're accusing a woman of 'making the whole thing up'. You're disgusting.
Because all women are perfect, and they never, ever lie.
Why the fuck would she lie about it? It's a pretty fucking random thing to happen on its own. Ovarian cysts don't just 'pop'.
Yes, yes, they do.
How can you assume the man is automatically guilty? None of us really know what went down between them-if anything happened at all.
Anyway, I looked her up on the net and found this article written about her. It is quite biased against her, to be fair. What really got me was the last sentence.
"either she suffers from a persecution complex - or else she genuinely brings out the worst in men."
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-12458593/Exposed-the-sordid-past-of.html
Lynn bad mental image!!
Next you'll be telling us Gerard was 'just joking' when he threatened to beat a woman so bad he'd kill her.
That's an exaggeration of huge dimensions. In my opinion he just blurted out ridiculous things with no real intent, just like some people do here.
um, hello? i've had an ovarian cyst rupture all on its own. hurts like satan, btw.
I don't think the article about Fassbender's girlfriend has any relevance. Her so-called "lurid past" has nothing to do with whether or not he beat her. I do think, however, that the fact that she withdrew the accusation immediately, and the fact that she was applying for a restraining order against a man who was on another continent making a film, puts her accusations in doubt.
Yes, it is possible that he paid her off. It's also possible that she was just looking for someone to pay her medical bills. We just don't know.
This article says that this woman filed the restraining order nine months after the incident occurred and that she was asking for $20,000.00 Hmm....
I usually side with the woman where domestic abuse is concerned, but this does look fishy. Sounds like she got the money and then wasn't afraid of him anymore.
All I know is Fassy was fine in X-Men First Class. Not as fine as McAvoy, but then who is?
Erik/Charles from First Class is my OTP. :)
I don't know about the Fassbender thing. I know that a lot of people on ONTD hate him and think he's guilty, but I'm on the fence.
As a female who wants to support other females, I want to think no woman would ever lie about something so serious, but I've had women do horrible things to me before for reasons passing understanding. In high school, a girl told horrible stories about how I had slept with two of the teachers at my school and that I'd gotten pregnant and had an abortion. Why? Because I was going out with her ex-boyfriend. Women can be just as horrible as men.
so this is the kind of stuff Frank thinks is funny... some people never change.
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I think lots of straight men have that fantasy 7:07
Frank said he likes that account? Where's that said/written, 7.05?
he's following it on twitter.
Women are capable of lying, cheating and being deceitful. Some women lie about being raped, beaten and abused. I just don't believe that woman saying she was beaten by Fassbender.
I agree, 7:10, and I think it's very sad, because those women who actually have been beaten, raped and abused have a hard enough time trying to get law enforcement and the courts to believe them. Women who would lie about such a thing just to get back at someone or to get attention are reprehensible.
I do, however, think it's very possible that Sunawin Andrews was lying. The situation just doesn't add up when you consider the timeline:
1)The alleged incident took place nine months before she filed the complaint.
2)Michael Fassbender was out of the country when she filed for an "order of protection".
3)She chose to file the complaint just as his career was beginning to take off and he was in the midst of a whirlwind of publicity.
4)She was asking for money to cover medical expenses she incurred nine months previously.
5)She withdrew the complaint within a couple of days.
Despite all of this, there's a possibility that the charges were legit, but I think there is more than enough reason for doubt. Until I have more to go on, I'm still going to watch Fassbender's films. He's amazingly talented and the most of the films he's in have been excellent.
See, it's hard for me to say "Oh, that makes it look like she's lying!" because not a single day goes by when I don't wish I had filed charges against my ex-boss, and the people who started all that trouble. And that was years ago! But I still somehow feel like I let down women and feminism in general, by allowing them all to get away with it.
And because neither I nor any of the other girls pressed charges (the main girl it happened to was afraid her her father finding out,) we were accused of lying. You all remember that, I'm sure.
When someone has hurt you, those feelings come and go. Sometimes you're like, "Just let it go, it's in the past," and other times it's like, "RAGE, how can they have gotten away with that?" This is especially the case if you see the other party having some measure of success.
I can definitely see a person thinking, months down the road, "Now I have the courage to do this," and I can just as easily see that person deciding, "No, I don't."
I do remember what happened to you, Kapunua, and I am very, very sorry for it. However, I also remember that the person who was vindictive enough to get you fired was a female -- a despicable person that I could see doing almost anything to get back at someone that she perceived as having wronged her. I don't think she would be above making false accusations against a man who dumped her.
Of course; women are just as capable of deceit, without a doubt! But I'm always wary when someone already has a "strike" against them as it were, especially with stuff like violence, racism etc. I don't want to invest any time (or any FANDOM time, hehe) in someone who's going to turn out to be some kind of abuser or sexist or racist. Maybe MCR taught me that, you know?
Which is sad, of course, if he didn't do anything. I'm just saying, I can see her reasoning if she was thinking "Yes I can do this, wait, no I can't."
I totally understand.
I admit, I don't know how I would feel about Fassbender if I hadn't already seen him in Jane Eyre and X-Men First Class before I heard anything about this incident (I heard about it late), and by that time, I'd already become enamored of his talent. I don't exactly stan for the guy, but I do think he's a fantastic actor.
I've actually never seen those. I believe he was in a movie I just saw, which was Haywire. (WHich I loved.) But I didn't know which one was him, except it must have been some guy who wasn't Ewan McGregor, Channing Tatum, Michael Douglas or Antonio Banderas. :)
Oh well, there's hope for all ex-emo's. Just look at Skrillex.
When someone has hurt you, those feelings come and go. Sometimes you're like, "Just let it go, it's in the past," and other times it's like, "RAGE, how can they have gotten away with that?" This is especially the case if you see the other party having some measure of success
What you are experiencing is your subconscious coming to terms with your experience and how it effected you emotionally. Think of it as a form of grief: the waves of emotion are similar.
Women do lie. They lie for attention. They lie to protect their reputation. They lie for attention. They lie for money. They lie for attention. They lie so that their character is not called into question. They lie for attention. That's a fact. Women lie just like men lie and for many of the same reasons. Attention, attention, attention, passing the blame, ego, guilt, reputation, money, attention, money.
Any woman who does not recognize that fact is, in fact, a liar.
Any woman who does lie about things like sexual assault or rape should be ashamed of themselves and have to live with the fact that they are directly responsible for so many real victims not being believed and not pressing charges.
Today, a woman or man is not fired from her or his job without damn good legal liability reasons. Why? Because the employer can be sued for unfair dismissal on so many terms. If someone is fired from their job there's probably a damn good reason for it. Keep that in mind before deciding who is guilty of lies, misrepresentation or a crime and who isn't.
Rosewood. An entire community erased from the map of the world because of one lie from one woman.
For 4 years 33-year-old William McCaffrey sat rotting in jail, accused and convicted of raping 22-year-old (now 27) mother of 2, Biurny Peguero Gonzalez. He probably would have remained there for the remainder of his jail term had it not been for new DNA evidence, introduced last year, that proved he was not guilty of the rape, and that Gonzalez obviously had lied.
http://incognito73.instablogs.com/entry/up-to-3-years-in-jail-for-woman-who-lied-about-being-raped/
she’d been hanging out with a group of girlfriends when she accepted an invitation to get into his car.
After she returned, her pals were furious that she’d ditched them — so she made up the rape story to gain their sympathy.
As simple as that, a stupid 22-year-old cried rape and lied from beginning to end because her girlfriends were pissed off that she had abandoned them for a while.
The lie to her gal pals escalated out of control as she told the same fabricated story to policemen, doctors, and then throughout the whole court proceedings. Then she lived with that lie for 4 years. Now, for that crime of perjury she herself will serve jail time- from 1 to 3 years behind bars, although the prosecutor asked for 2 to 6.
She and any woman who lies about sexual assault and is fired from their job for spreading those lies around should get the maximum sentence allowed by the law. Three years isn't enough for destroying an innocent man's life.
They are the reason so many real victims don't report sexual assault and rape to the police.
Case after case of women who lie. Men can't be blamed for not believing every woman who says that she was raped. The women who have exaggerated about sexual assault and lied about being raped are the ones who should be blamed.
The Gresham woman who lied about being raped at Gresham Station last month will face two misdemeanor charges of initiating a false report, Gresham Police announced Friday.
When Danielle Elizabeth Hayes, 35, confessed to lying about being raped, she tried to craft another story and earned herself the second charge, said Officer John Rasmussen. She said she had not been raped by two strangers on July 25, but had been assaulted earlier that day by an acquaintance.
But investigators found that incident to be consensual after examining text messages.
Hayes initially reported that she had been raped by two strangers behind the Gresham Borders branch on July 25. Investigators began to doubt her story when she could not provide details of the crime or descriptions of the two men.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshht2PNwne407w906lo
Woman Admits She Lied About Being Raped After Man Spends 4 Years In Jail! (New Jersey Woman & New York Man) [18 Min 20/20 Special]
Women who lie about being raped should receive a harsh punishment. It's because of women like that that real victims fear coming forward.
Today, a woman or man is not fired from her or his job without damn good legal liability reasons. Why? Because the employer can be sued for unfair dismissal on so many terms.
That's bullshit. Unless you have an employment contract, you can be fired for little or no reason at all. Look up "at will employment". I found out about this after being "laid off" when I became pregnant.
Today, a woman or man is not fired from her or his job without damn good legal liability reasons. Why? Because the employer can be sued for unfair dismissal on so many terms. If someone is fired from their job there's probably a damn good reason for it. Keep that in mind before deciding who is guilty of lies, misrepresentation or a crime and who isn't.
Look, why don't you just sign in?
You just can't get past this, can you? My boss said he did have a good reason for firing me: His exact words to me over the phone were, "Since she's not pressing charges it's your word against theirs. They have a lot of money and they're going to keep harassing me and it's just too much of a headache."
NY state law says that your boss can, in fact, fire you for any reason as long as it's not a bias one. He could fire me for my hair, how I dressed, because I like the color red, because he just plain didn't like me, and indeed, because he was "getting a headache."
Now of course, I could have (and sometimes think shoudl have) pursued this further. Maybe written to ACLU or something - I don't know. But the underage girl in question begged me not to. She said she knew her name would obviously come up, what had happened would get out, and her father would find out about it. That was her one big fear; she didn't want her Dad to know, because she said she knew he would get violent with the guy who had hurt her, and then her Dad would go to jail. She came to my house one night and begged me not to tell.
My boss knew this. He knew I was in a place where I actually couldn't do anything about it.
So, sign in, or shut your damn trap, you ignorant, sexist idiot.
ANd also, YOU weren't there. You keep saying that I was lying about it, that all of us girls who put up with it were lying about it. The only reason you keep saying that is because you simply don't like me. You got mad. You admitted it. The whole "but all of you girls who worked there lied," is ridiculous, because, hello, you weren't there.
No, but keep trying to convince people of that, dumbass. You're gold.
Kapu, you're right, she was never there. To be convinced that you and your girl friends were lying shows what a nut job she is. She's a piece of shit and she's always had it in for you. She made no bones about that so it's obvious.
Don't let her bother you because anyone in their right mind knows she's a psycho. Pity her instead.
And for the record? My boss knew what happened, saw some instances of it happening, and had proof of the harassment of other co-workers, in the form of rude, sexual notes and cards left by them. One of them was addressed to a man. That one got thrown in the garbage. So yeah, he knew it was all true, he just laughed it off.
I have no pity.
I can see why but... You went on to go to school and get a job you (presumably) like.
What did she get?
Wonderful news. Komen reversed its decision about funding Planned Parenthood.
Congrats and well done to all of you who signed petitions and donated to Planned Parenthood in protest of Komen's proposed withdrawal of funds.
Regardless, I won't be contributing to the Susan G Komen foundation this year. I'll give my money to Planned Parenthood instead.
I just heard about that! SCORE. All the signatures and protests - it's awesome to see something finally work. ^_^
I see the 'feminist' Jessicka is hard at work on twitter promoting her racist, rape-mocking friend.
Hiya guys, how are you all?
Hiya K, nice to see you again sweetie. Can't wait for the bestseller, this is the year.
When someone has hurt you, those feelings come and go. Sometimes you're like, "Just let it go, it's in the past," and other times it's like, "RAGE, how can they have gotten away with that?" This is especially the case if you see the other party having some measure of success.
I can definitely see a person thinking, months down the road, "Now I have the courage to do this," and I can just as easily see that person deciding, "No, I don't."
This is a really good point. It's easy for an onlooker to say why didn't you do something about it straight away but unless something like this has happened to you, you'll never know at what point in time you felt ready to do something about it.
I also think is bad that women are willing to lie about being raped because if we get to a stage where police, the courts and jury encountering a rape allegation have to stop to think "Is this guy really guilty? Let's give him a lesser sentence just in case he's not", that's bad. Real rape is unforgivable and should get the death penalty in my opinion or at least life in prison. The lies about rape will end up belittling the sentences.
Heya Misty, and thank you! LOL bestseller! We'll see about that, hehe. ;D
And I have to agree, you know. It's really the one place where I (wishfully) diverge from most other extreme liberals. If there was ever a way to truly, without a doubt, 100% convict someone, I'd be for the death penalty, too. And in some cases, it is a sure thing and there is no question about a person's guilt.
As far as death penalty for rapists, shoot, I'd carry that one out myself. Especially if children were involved.
Hi Miss T! Good to see you!
I wonder why Jessicka is still supporting a racist.
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