I was searching around a while ago for articles about misogyny and racism in music. I found a few of them and noticed a pattern. If you google "Misogyny in music" you will find a lot of links to rap and hip hop music.
Misogyny Set To Music calls out R Kelly.
Here's the Top 10 Misogynistic Rap Songs That Women Love, which calls out Lil Jon, Snoop, Yin Yang Twinz.
Chris Brown, Tyler the Creator and mostly other African American musicians are always, always getting called out.
Then, google "mindless self indulgence misogyny" and "mindless self indulgence racism" and what will you find? Nothing more than a bunch of white people defending the sexism and racism by saying it's "clearly ironic," "tongue in cheek," "Jimmy Urine says he's not a racist so obviously he's not" and "how can they be sexist with women in the band?" And my favorite, "MSI is reclaiming those social slurs."
So my question is, why is it acceptable for these white people to "reclaim slurs" and use slurs "in irony" but when an African American musician does it, there is a huge outcry?
I also notice that the people who post here are the only ones really calling out privileged white men like Frank Iero and Gerard Way on saying horribly racist and misogynistic things on Twitter. If an African American spoke like that on Twitter, what would the reaction be?
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As long as the fan sheep don't complain in a number which could endanger (future) album sales, they just don't mind.
I remember one of Eliza's friends came online and whined about how Gerard/the band had taken heat from the label after Eliza's racist video was posted around and enough people complained about it. The label don't like blatant racism being attached to the artists, which is why Frank deleted his tweets. The sexist stuff stays, because they don't care about that, but I'm sure he was advised to delete the racist one. I wonder if they've also given Gerard a word about his amaaaazzzing wife's racist 'art project' band.
Helen Mirren would make a great doctor 6:38. Loved her as Jane Tennison and Morgana Pendragon.
good movie
Have a wonderful holiday, everyone!
Merry Christmas Siobhan!
Are you a fan of Mikey Way 5:07? Excaliber is what he named his last silver glitter bass. he must be a fan of the legend and the movie too.
You can't argue with a fundamentalist. They see the world in black and white. It's their nature.
Aren't you painting the Christian world in black in white by seeing all Christians with the same blind eye? You fail to see the differences in any religion. Not all Christians are Fundamentalists, Evangelists, Mormon, Baptist, Catholic, Protestant, Presbyterian. The list of Christian religions is as endless as your biased and hatred against them. Don't even try to pretend to be above the ones you condemn. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddists, Pagans are all people of faith. You are no better than any of them and it's past time someone put you in your place.
Either have respect for other people and their beliefs or don't expect them to have any respect for you and your lack of beliefs.
I didn't know that 8:31, and I'm not a fan (of MW) but am of Excalibur.
Oh my goodness, what an idiot.
Too bad Tim Tebow is such a devout Evangelical Christian and is against violence. He could kick their asses to hell and back. Contact him if you want to find out how to become a best selling author, millionaire, and an inspiration to millions of young people.
He's never back downed and he isn't going to start now. He thanks his savior the Lord Jesus Christ at every press conference he gives. Bravo to Tim Tebow. He should no more be mocked for his beliefs than a Muslim, Jew or Atheist should be for theirs.
If you can't see that than you are no better than a man who thinks that he is better and worth more than woman.
Equality is equality. Regardless of sex, race, religion, creed, color, nationality, or heritage. If you don't get that, don't you dare be putting anybody else down. You'll only prove yourself to be more of a hypocrite than the rest of us in the world already know that you are.
You really don't have to keep proving that to us 9:08. We already know. Bigotry is idiocy. Closed minds are small minds. We get that you will never learn, grow or become more tolerant of different people, faiths and beliefs. Still we hope for you. Tis the season.
The universe treats kindly those who see through the eyes of all others. Those who appreciate and respect the differences. Those who learn and understand that a different belief is not a wrong belief.
You can't to that, you'll pretty much get fucked by the universe while the rest of the world cheers.
Well excuse me 9:14. Firstly I'm not Kapunua even though you seem convinced I that am, and secondly you don't even know what I was referring to...but do go on!
You really don't have to keep proving that to us 9:08. We already know. Bigotry is idiocy. Closed minds are small minds. We get that you will never learn, grow or become more tolerant of different people, faiths and beliefs. Still we hope for you. Tis the season.
You thought all of this from this Oh my goodness, what an idiot ? Now who is being disrespectful, small-minded and presumptuous?
Firstly, I don't think that you are Kapunua. She is much more well written than you are. Her love of the written word is always apparent.
Secondly, your ignorance of religious history , religious persecution and the parallels with sexism and racism surprises me.
Kapunua, I think, is intelligent enough to see those parallels even if her two over zealous supporters are not.
More assumptions 9:38 & 9:43? Now you are assuming I'm one of her "supporters"?
Secondly, your ignorance of religious history , religious persecution and the parallels with sexism and racism surprises me.
Really? So you can just attribute a comment and assume it came from a certain anonymous person even though you have no real idea who that anonymous person is?
Kapunua, I think, is intelligent enough to see those parallels even if her two over zealous supporters are not.
Your own ignorance is showing again.
You VV people need to start leaving Mayo, Christians and Mya alone. It's getting way, way old. Let it go. Seriously.
Firstly, I don't think that you are Kapunua. She is much more well written than you are. Her love of the written word is always apparent.
And she is a far better writer than you will ever be 9:10/9:14/9:38/9:43. Assuming they were all your comments 9:10.
Jumping to conclusions again 10:23? From where I am standing it's the people from Mayo constantly here making assumptions.
Reallly. I haven't seen this much blame and persecution since the Salem Witch Trials. Before that it had to be the crucifiction of Jesus Christ himself. Who is washing their hands of innocent blood this time?
Mayo people, stay at Mayo's and stop harassing us. We are not interested in your blog. Keep it. Let it go and just ignore us. Seriously.
Blame, blame and more blame. I wash my hands of this. It's you who condemned and spilled innocent blood You are guilty . Not me.
Since the dawn of time it has been the same. Many who are willing to cast the first stones. Few who are willing to stand there and quietly be stoned.
Isn't it well past the bed-time for fifty plus year old men in Portland?
Who in this day and age would support a stoning or a beheading? No feminist that I know. No one who truly believes in equality.
Women are still being stoned to death and beheaded in the middle east and other parts of the world because of their beliefs in equality of the sexes and freedom of religion.
Two weeks ago a woman was beheaded for witchcraft. How can any of you support that by criticizing any religious beliefs? You do support that type of hatred, bigotry and ignorance when you mock any belief. Religious based or otherwise.
You are no different from the men seeking control over those women by means of female castration and mutilation.
Those men seek to castrate women's minds and independence by mutilating their sexual organs. YOU seek to castrate other women by twisting and mutilating their opinions which differ from yours. It's the same thing dumbasses.
That's what the Jessicka's of the world get. That's what will always put them 10 steps ahead of the rest of you who throw your sisters under the bus for no damn good reason.
Jealousy and envy are the most hideous of all emotional monsters.
Jealous and envious of what? Please stay go away and stay at your Mayo blog. You brought up these people just to start an argument. No one was talking about anything else other than a movie.
And I still don't agree with anything you said though I respect your opinion.
^Please go away.
well past the bed-time for fifty plus year old men in Portland?
Oh look. It's an age discriminator again. One who already killed off their own financially responsible parents or spouse.
All of us full grown adults are spending all of your social security and retirement funds in nightclubs in Portland and other popular cities. Does that piss you off? It should. We're enjoying life and you'll have to work until you're 150 just to pay for your and dependents anti depressants. It must suck to be you knowing that you'll never enjoy the freedom and fun that we do. Your poor parents who worked hard and sweated and bled for you. To you a better life than they had. You let them down. You so did. You will be so much worse off than your 50 plus year old parents. So so much worse off.
I hope they blew your college and your wedding funds on a new Mercedes or a vacation home in Florida. You deserve it. You disrespectful, entitled feeling brat.
If that's how the people at Mayo's blog feel then I want the link to that blog. Here fucking here!
http://its-mayonaise.blogspot.com/
They're nice people. Grown ups with real life experience.
Oh look. It's an age discriminator again.
Oh look it's the extremist again.
YOU seek to castrate other women by twisting and mutilating their opinions which differ from yours
YOU are seeking to castrate the women on this blog by pulling out the victimization card, twisting and trying to suppress their opinions which differs from the one that you and these people share. It's the same thing dumbass.
I think the only thing Jessicka 'gets', 10.57, is that her friend Lindsey's misogyny, racism, and all around shitty personality as a result of her participation in a rape-promoting, child abuse mocking band is clear for everyone to see including her. She has no option but to derail, trivialise and hide from the obvious. Ifshe wants to defend and promote such an evil woman then she has that freedom, but she shouldn't expect to be considered a feminist anymore because of it. She's a shallow, vapid, attention seeking joke - just like Lord and Lady Douchebag.
You can't argue with a fundamentalist. They see the world in black and white. It's their nature.
Aren't you painting the Christian world in black in white by seeing all Christians with the same blind eye? You fail to see the differences in any religion. Not all Christians are Fundamentalists, Evangelists, Mormon, Baptist, Catholic, Protestant, Presbyterian. The list of Christian religions is as endless as your biased and hatred against them. Don't even try to pretend to be above the ones you condemn. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddists, Pagans are all people of faith. You are no better than any of them and it's past time someone put you in your place.
Either have respect for other people and their beliefs or don't expect them to have any respect for you and your lack of beliefs
What is it that you usually like to say? You agree to disagree?
Jealousy and envy are the most hideous of all emotional monsters
We can hardly claim to be a feminist if we attribute dissenting feelings expressed by women wholly attributable to jealousy and envy. How is that not generalizing and sexist in itself?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-nPYvdSA9E
I wonder what Jessicka thinks of this 'art'? I bet she loves to sing along to this with her friend Lindsey and the rest of their racist crew.
I may get stick for this, but here goes. I don't believe anyone in MSI is racist or sexist.
I do believe they are all stupid, moronic attention seekers with extremely limited talent who realized that controversial lyrics would get them somewhere. It sort of did.
I don't believe their music is "satire". I find it highly offensive, but some people will do anything to get famous, even if it means doing the stupidest thing.
The creation of MSI is the stupidest thing.
Yet Lindsey cracks jokes about the horrible deaths of thousands of Japanese.
And Frank defends the use of racist slurs. Perhaps their racism is so inbuild, so normalized, they don't even recognize it as racism? Maybe you don't either.
11.47, if someone behaves in a racist manner, if they say racist things, crack jokes which target only certain racial minorities, or use racial slurs and then defend the use of those slurs when they come under fire, one can only assume that person has some issues regarding race which they need to address. If they're not racist, they're doing a pretty good job of trying to convince people they are.
And Jessicka promoted and defends this garbage with her silence and how she sticks by the side of her racist friend.
I may get stick for this, but here goes. I don't believe anyone in MSI is racist or sexist.
I do believe they are all stupid, moronic attention seekers with extremely limited talent who realized that controversial lyrics would get them somewhere. It sort of did.
With racism, sexism and violence towards women and minorities, your intention doesn't matter. Neither does how "smart" or "stupid" you are.
There are ingrained social attitudes in the world and there is no way around it. We live in a patriarchy dominated by white people. We're taught from birth what our roles are supposed to be. Only by acknowledging that and trying to understand it, and only by acknowledging our own privilege and racism, can we start to not be racist and sexist.
If you're sitting there making "jokes" and songs that are offensive, if you're using oppressive language, here's the deal: you are a racist/sexist.
If you think that it's okay to use words like that, even jokingly? You are a racist/sexist.
If you "just don't know any better?" Then you are most DEFINITELY a racist/sexist. You're just stupid on top of it.
ANd that pretty much sums up MCR/MSI.
You can't argue with a fundamentalist. They see the world in black and white. It's their nature.
Aren't you painting the Christian world in black in white by seeing all Christians with the same blind eye? You fail to see the differences in any religion. Not all Christians are Fundamentalists, Evangelists, Mormon, Baptist, Catholic, Protestant, Presbyterian. The list of Christian religions is as endless as your biased and hatred against them. Don't even try to pretend to be above the ones you condemn. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddists, Pagans are all people of faith. You are no better than any of them and it's past time someone put you in your place.
Either have respect for other people and their beliefs or don't expect them to have any respect for you and your lack of beliefs.
When I made that comment I was referring to a type of mindset as the term in my country doesn't apply as a descriptive for any type of religion per se, but you as always jump the gun, assume things make a long laborious statement about intolerance and hatred where there was no intent. Before you come here employing your Bonapartic pontificating ramblings, I would try to employ some critical thinking skills.
Just wanted to say Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to everyone on here xoxo
Two weeks ago a woman was beheaded for witchcraft. How can any of you support that by criticizing any religious beliefs? You do support that type of hatred, bigotry and ignorance when you mock any belief. Religious based or otherwise.
I read about this and how it was conducted in "three stages". I couldn't continue reading about it as it sicken me to think of the suffering that this woman endured in her death. I am at a loss with the point you are trying to make here. The thinking to my mind has little to do with the religion itself and more to do with the elements of extremism, attitudes towards liberty and cultural attitudes towards women within it's system.
"With racism, sexism and violence towards women and minorities, your intention doesn't matter."
That's not fair to people who don't know any better. It's not like they're out there stopping blacks and women from getting jobs, or ACTUALLY raping children.
Holiday greetings to you too Pixie.
Thanks for your opinion 5:19. I would like another opinion from you. If a person was constantly sending a married man sexually suggestive remarks to the point of embarrassment,yet you know they are constantly doing this, would you just turn a blind eye to it and condone it because you are friends with them?
December 22, 2011 5:59 AM
Why did someone post this comment at Mayo's? This was directed to one person (5:19) and the business of no one else.
But it made me think, perhaps it may be no one's business though it's interesting to note that people are prepared to overlook the primary relationship which is the man and his wife. Men usually sail along with these things and I doubt his wife would be so forgiving.
Or maybe the wife would see it as nothing serious. Who knows?
One thing I do know through experience, is that any form of deception hurts.
if someone behaves in a racist manner, if they say racist things, crack jokes which target only certain racial minorities, or use racial slurs and then defend the use of those slurs when they come under fire, one can only assume that person has some issues regarding race which they need to address. If they're not racist, they're doing a pretty good job of trying to convince people they are.
This is very true, and I wish people like Jessicka would acknowledge this.
Jessicka's response when confronted with her friend's track record of racist behavior should be to accept the fact that it exists, and attempt to distance herself from it. Something like, 'I acknowledge that some of my friend's behavior, which I have no control over, is offensive and racially insensitive. But it does not reflect my opinions and beliefs. I can see the issues with the behavior and I am not condoning it or supporting it at all'. Instead, her response thus far has been to stick her fingers in her ears and go 'LALALALALALALALA YOU JUST HATE MY FRIEND BECAUSE SHE MARRIED GWAY AND YOUR JELLUS LALALALA!'.
I had expected more from her, but I guess I thought she was a more sensible person. Hollywood seems to have chewed up any morals she once held and spat them out.
*You're
If North Korea's leader was such a dictator, why is the entire country mourning his death? Was he good to them?
Because they have to mourn to their dear leader, their God. Just like they were made to thank their leader, their God, for everything they received in life. Their homes, food, water, medical treatment from other countries. Anything and everything they had in life, no matter how little, was attributed to their dear leader. Those who knew better and voiced their opinion against the dictatorship were silenced quickly and permanently. Voices of reason, sense and sensibilities aren't allowed in countries like North Korea, China and many middle eastern countries where dictators are allowed by the rest of the world to rule.
Any people forced to bow down to another man and treat him as a God are a people that need to be freed. The days of North Korea and China being untouchable are coming to end thanks to their own young people seeking individual freedoms and embracing the global community.
I had expected more from her, but I guess I thought she was a more sensible person. Hollywood seems to have chewed up any morals she once held and spat them out.
She's just a fame and money hungry leech like her friend.
From Jessicka's Twitter:
Over the years I've found different friend's behavior offensive. I don't agree with it. Please don't mistake my web silence as avoidance. I deal with my issues with real life friends privately & respectfully off of the internet.
Interesting...
Maybe she did talk to Gerard about the whole #smashedface incident?
Anyway...Happy New Year!!
Happy New Year to you too, and to everybody else.
Happy New Year to everyone.
That hasn't changed my opinion of any of them.
I'm glad she said something. There are people in my social circle who embarrass me with their backwards, ignorant views quite often. I wouldn't call them "friends" but I do see them around. I do tend to call them on their behavior either as they're doing it, or in private messages (if I know them well enough.) Because I don't want to start some huge wank.
The sad thing is that none of the people who follow MSI/MCR would ever admit (or even realize) that that's who she's talking about. They'll just go on thinking that songs about child abuse are hilarious, and saying "n*gger" is just fine BECAUSE OF REASONS LOL.
But anyways, at least she said something.
Well, happy new year everyone! Me, I like the Chinese New Year better, and I kind of ignore this one. ^_^
San nihn faai lohk Kapunua!
Xie xie, gung-hei faat-choih, xin nian kuaile! ^_^
Err, although those two are mostly for the Lunar calendar. But still! :D
Empty words, Jessicka. You are clearly comfortable ringing in the new year sat beside your racist best friend. I wonder if the desperate wannabe woman-punching husband was sat across from you?
He was there. He looked a mess. I wonder if he got drunk and threated to hit more girls?
Nice try Jess, but that doesn't really cut it. You've not said shit to Mr 'I like to threaten women with violence' and his rape-mocking wife.
Jessicka posted a picture of Gerard (which she's since deleted) and he looks fucking wasted.
I can't fathom why a woman who claims to be a feminist would be within 100 yards of a man who likes to brag about punching girls and killing them.
I also note how Jessicka is trying to save face with the fangirls by not naming her 'friends' anywhere. She's trying to keep the idiots happy by not calling out their idols and the people she relies on for her 'fame'. Shallow idiot of a woman. I wonder if she asked Lindsey about her racism last night? I wonder if she asked Gerard about the c*nt bullshit? I don't think she's ever said anything to them, because she's a vapid, desperate coward who doesn't want to rock the boat.
I can't fathom why a woman who claims to be a feminist would be within 100 yards of a man who likes to brag about punching girls and killing them.
I actually have to put up with this on a semi-regular basis from one of my acquaintances. It is very, very hard to stand up to him, because he's friends with some of my friends. On a few occasions I've pointed out his behavior, and have told him to stop acting like that. Or I've just walked out.
Sometimes you're on the spot like that, in a social situation.
However, I'm still pretty clear on where I stand, and the people who are my friends respect that. They know how I feel about racism, sexism, violence against women etc.
If they don't get that, then, even if they are in my social circle, I do not consider them my "friends."
The fact that Jessicka calls these disgusting people her friends, and her best friends at that, is proof of her ability to ignore and explain away their behavior. She clearly has no issue with racism, misogyny and violence against women, since she's best friends with people who promote those things.
Yeah, well to be honest, the people I know who are like that, I can't consider them my friends either. We get thrown together a lot, but I avoid them at all costs whenever I can.
I just wish someone would come up with a magical, non-awkward way to defuse those situations. :/
Jessicka posted a picture of Gerard (which she's since deleted) and he looks fucking wasted
Reminds me of something a scene queen would do...even old ones.
Kapunua are you planning anything special to celebrate the year of the dragon?
And seeing you are also part Italian, un felice anno nuovo per te Kapunua!
I can't fathom why a woman who claims to be a feminist would be within 100 yards of a man who likes to brag about punching girls and killing them.
Do you really believe he was throwing his around his machismo when he tweeted those stupid things? My way of thinking is that he is completely dominated and under the thumb of two women, which is very ironic. And all for his love of his one. But that's just my opinion.
Weak and spineless.
4:56, thank you! :D That is so sweet. I might take a trip into Chinatown for the lunar new year. Either I will go with my best training brother (or a few of them) or maybe with this one other guy I'm going around with. We'll see. :D Chinese New Year in NYC is to much fun. ^_^
9:17, he is weak and spineless, but misogynists are. Regardless of how he and his wife function together, the things he says are still oppressive to women everywhere. She could totally be the boss of him for all we know (or care,) but it is his treatment of girls and women in general that is appalling, and shows his need to speak abusively toward an entire gender.
I bet Jessicka would love to have him call her slurs. Oh wait.
I just want to know when Jessicka did her massive U-turn from complaining that people were 'bullying' Lindsey for asking her to stop dressing up her racism and misogyny as feminism, to trying to fool everyone that she's dealt with those things herself. Does the woman think we're idiots?
I personally think you guys give Jessicka way too much attention-a lot more then she deserves. In my opinion, she is not a feminist, therefore talking about her is a massive waste of time.
Well, talking about fake feminists and people who use feminism to get attention then behave the opposite way is sort of what this blog is about. Jessicka is just as bad as Gerard and Lindsey until she proves otherwise by calling them out publicly like she calls everyone else out who goes against her beliefs.
She could totally be the boss of him for all we know
The big rawkstah owned by his wife. Lol.
Why is Jessicka so interested in seeing Emilei Autumn?
I bet Jessicka would love to have him call her slurs. Oh wait.
That sort of thing turns on some people.
Why is Jessicka so interested in seeing Emilei Autumn? Because Emilie called Lindsey out publicly and Jess wants to beg her to drop it like she wants all of us to.
From Jessicka's Twitter:
Over the years I've found different friend's behavior offensive. I don't agree with it. Please don't mistake my web silence as avoidance. I deal with my issues with real life friends privately & respectfully off of the internet.
I'm glad Jessicka said this too kapunua. Though I'm not sure about whether it is about Gerard or Manson? since that old MM photo followed.
I think for whatever reason she's smart to talk to people privately about their offensive behavior. Who the hell wants the idiots in the MCRmy giving their opinions on what she says via twitter or facebook.
From what I see Jessicka is mostly positive, if that's bullshit, then so be it. But at least she's trying.
Emilie Autumn was in Courtney Love's backing band on her 2004 America's Sweetheart tour with Samantha Maloney and Lisa Leveridge. Samantha and Lisa are Jessicka's friends. I think Jessicka knows Emilie from way back then. Emilie has been friendly towards Jessicka via twitter, and Courtney has tweeted Jessicka quite a few times. So I figure that's the connection?
Why is Jessicka so interested in seeing Emilei Autumn? Because Emilie called Lindsey out publicly and Jess wants to beg her to drop it like she wants all of us to.
Jessicka hasn't said anything to EA about MSI or Lyn-Z at least via twitter.
Jessicka's response when confronted with her friend's track record of racist behavior should be to accept the fact that it exists, and attempt to distance herself from it. Something like, 'I acknowledge that some of my friend's behavior, which I have no control over, is offensive and racially insensitive. But it does not reflect my opinions and beliefs. I can see the issues with the behavior and I am not condoning it or supporting it at all'
Well now she's said something? Now what?
She clearly has no issue with racism, misogyny and violence against women, since she's best friends with people who promote those things.
I don't think she's ever said these people are her best friends? Let's not push it to that level?
It is very clear to me that isn't a racist & is against violence against women.
I bet Jessicka would love to have him call her slurs. Oh wait.
January 2, 2012 7:08 AM
That's just stupid and an unnecessary comment . Troll!
I just wish someone would come up with a magical, non-awkward way to defuse those situations. :/
Let us all know when you do? Will you?
In my opinion, she is not a feminist, therefore talking about her is a massive waste of time.
Just because you say Jessicka is not a feminist, then she's not?
What are your specific parameters that self-define a person as a feminist?
So what are the feminist theories that are actually in practice to make anybody a feminist? Feminist theories which were somewhat practiced in some societies took a heavy toll after the end of cold war. Marxist feminism have
always been coupled with socialist feminist in order to be put in practice.
Before the cold war, their target was:
1. Class - group
2. Materialism
3. Structures - established laws and social systems
4. Resources of power
They strongly believed that gender issues will resolve by addressing the class issues. After the end of cold war,
majority of activists and theories of the Marxist/Socialist feminism joined the radical feminism. Many joined the
Postmodern feminism and internalized the issues. Postmodern Feminism heavily emphasizes on individualism. It
has non-activism as its hidden agenda. It doesn't promote any kind of collective effort and that's why most of the
postmodern feminists don't even agree with each other's work!!!!!! THIS!
A pure intellectual state of mind.
Radical and liberal feminism are actually the two major theories that have been picked up by different organizations and institutions for practice and are still going strong. YET VERY DIFFERENT!
Jessicka is just as bad as Gerard and Lindsey until she proves otherwise by calling them out publicly like she calls everyone else out who goes against her beliefs.
That's so stupid. What would that do except get the stupid MCRmy, MSI fans, and other idiots on board to attack either side. The point would get lost.
Blah blah blah blah. If she's all right with MCRs and MSI's disgusting, hateful, misogynistic words and actions, SHE IS NOT A FEMINIST. No, you can't "self define" as a feminist if you are all right with abuse and oppression of women.
Same goes for racism, you can "self define" as NOT a racist all you want, but if you're still saying "n*****" and making fun of African Americans, guess what, YOU'RE NOT.
Jessicka wasn't even clear on which "friends" she was talking about. For wall we know, she meant Manson. And she's obviously perfectly fine hanging out with the Hateful Ways.
January 2, 2012 2:50 PM
Sorry but that's just your opinion. It isn't a FACT!
Since you are so fond of capital letters.
I just wish someone would come up with a magical, non-awkward way to defuse those situations. :/
There will always be awkward situations in life Kapunua, though I think that in being civil to this person whilst upholding your values you are maintaining your own dignity.
Let us all know when you do? Will you?
It's one thing to be civil, another to be posting pictures on a social site of your "friendship". I'm almost expecting a picture of all of them doing the conga line together sometime in the future.
In my opinion, she is not a feminist, therefore talking about her is a massive waste of time.
Just because you say Jessicka is not a feminist, then she's not?
What are your specific parameters that self-define a person as a feminist?
So what are the feminist theories that are actually in practice to make anybody a feminist? Feminist theories which were somewhat practiced in some societies took a heavy toll after the end of cold war. Marxist feminism have
always been coupled with socialist feminist in order to be put in practice.
Before the cold war, their target was:
1. Class - group
2. Materialism
3. Structures - established laws and social systems
4. Resources of power
They strongly believed that gender issues will resolve by addressing the class issues. After the end of cold war,
majority of activists and theories of the Marxist/Socialist feminism joined the radical feminism. Many joined the
Postmodern feminism and internalized the issues. Postmodern Feminism heavily emphasizes on individualism. It
has non-activism as its hidden agenda. It doesn't promote any kind of collective effort and that's why most of the
postmodern feminists don't even agree with each other's work!!!!!! THIS!
A pure intellectual state of mind.
Radical and liberal feminism are actually the two major theories that have been picked up by different organizations and institutions for practice and are still going strong. YET VERY DIFFERENT!
January 2, 2012 1:54 PM
Perhaps she could pen a new song with her good friend G Way. They could call it Every Feminist is Different. That might get the point across ^_^
Let us all know when you do? Will you?
It's one thing to be civil, another to be posting pictures on a social site of your "friendship". I'm almost expecting a picture of all of them doing the conga line together sometime in the future.
Oh please, everybody posts pictures with their friends, family and loved ones on blogger, myspace facebook, and twitter. It isn't just her. Give it a rest already.
She posts photos with her cats & grandpa too. Is she exploiting them also?
Point is, stop pretending Gerard and Lindsey aren't her friends. They are, and she has one set of rules for them, one for everyone else, apparently.
For the last fuckin time, will all yall crazy "progressive" dipshits and "Brits" please stay away from Mayo's with your hatred of things you don't understand???! Attacking football is like attacking the American WAY of LIFE!!!
Of course I know it's a lot to expect of folks like you, but I only ask... no, I'm ~BEGGING... for you to keep your liberal B.S. over HERE.
Thank you in advance!!!
;)
I've never been to Mayo's and have certainly never commented there.
Point is, stop pretending Gerard and Lindsey aren't her friends. They are, and she has one set of rules for them, one for everyone else, apparently.
No is pretending. Clearly is is she?
She clearly addressed the issue privately. Next? I have no idea why there is so much dislike for this woman. From what I've seen she's never used the N word, is pro fat, pro gay, and mostly uses her twitter to encourage young woman. I just don't get you guys.
You have a problem with Lyn-z and MSI , that I get. But Jessicka is not Lyn-Z. I find the whole thing weird.
She clearly addressed the issue privately.
To who and what did she address? No one knows for certain.
You have a problem with Lyn-z and MSI , that I get. But Jessicka is not Lyn-Z. I find the whole thing weird.
I find it weird that you can't understand.
To who and what did she address? No one knows for certain.
Nobody here knows anything about Jessicka for certain but people here sure love to speculate about her.
She is close friends with someone who is proud to promote rape, child abuse and is an outspoken racist. Why would she want a creature like that as her close friend?
Her fight against oppression, homophobia, sexism and racism is hollow when she chooses to spend her time with women who mock rape, display racist behavior, and threaten to punch women. These are the people she choses ro care about, respect, defend and excuse.
1:11 Again that is your opinion! Clearly others do not share it.
2:50, I'm not sure how "opinion" that is. It certainly is a fact that MCR/MSI have said and done all of the things they've been accused of saying and doing.
While I do understand being put in a difficult social position, I personally could never call those people "friends."
Oh please, everybody posts pictures with their friends, family and loved ones on blogger, myspace facebook, and twitter. It isn't just her. Give it a rest already.
She posts photos with her cats & grandpa too. Is she exploiting them also?
You have a habit of not reading things through thoroughly. Who mentioned anything about exploitation apart from you? The point was that the majority of people post pictures of friends and family in social situations where they enjoyed themselves, people they like or admire, not people whose company they find socially difficult.
January 3, 2012 10:34 PM
Are you still a virgin Kap? I remember a friend of mine who used to aim chat with you a few years ago saying that you were a mid thirties virigin. Are you still a virgin in forties? Why? Hasn't any man ever asked to fuck you. Have you ever even had oral sex? Any kind of sex?
personally could never call those people "friends."
She personally could never say that any man has ever really wanted to fuck her either. So what? No man desires and wants to be with her and she is too picky with friends. Which is why she has none. It all comes out even in the end. Even and lonely.
4:16, that's the kind of low-life thing a MCRSI fan would say.
What the hell is wrong with you, 4:16? (and 4:21, I'm sure you're the same person).
That is a very personal and intrusive question, and not one that belongs on a blog like this. And regardless, it has no bearing on the topic(s) at hand.
What kind of person are you? I certainly pity you. Do the people who have that oh-so-important SEX with you realize that they're having sex with something that's less than human? How very desperate they must be.
Meh, I wouldn't pay attention to what 4:16 has to say. She's one of those women who thinks having men want to "fuck her" is the only thing she's there for.
Sadly, there's a reason why the word "fuck" has a double meaning. Many of the men who "fuck" that kind of woman, are "fucking" her in more ways than one. :(
Keep your man-hating, America-hating ways OFF OF MAYO.
Remember... We have your ISP and remember...
I hope their mortgages are paid off because it sounds like some people are pissed off. I've never been pissed off enough to take a loss on a repossessed home but I may be now. Who wants to buy a $100000 home for $5000? Hit me up on FB. ^_~
Knock, knock, knock goes the bankmen.
Those comments are pretty disgusting and just the sort of thing Gerard Way or his nasty wife would say to offend someone. Congratulations, you're becoming more like your rotten idols everyday!
And yes, WHY are there never any pictures of this "Guy" you are seeing, Kap? What woman doesn't have pictures of the person she is seeing? I see pictures of everyone else... but never this "Guy". Why is that? Could it be because he doesn't even exist? Could he be a figment of your imagination? An imaginary partner? Do your friends know that you have this "guy"? Have they ever seen him? Or do your "friends" not even pay enough attention to realize that he is completely made up? A figment of your imagination?
Or maybe you don't actual like men. Well, obviously you don't. You obviously hate them. Maybe it's a woman you are looking for after all.
Who cares? You sound obsessed and creepy. Who she dates has nothing to do with this blog; you just can't take us calling out those racists and sexist pigs you love so much.
Piss off with your gross comments, troll.
Homophobic trolling? Lindsey, is that you?
What's next, some racist insult?
If "Maybe you're gay" is supposed to be an insult..... You're' doing it wrong.
What woman doesn't have pictures of the person she is seeing?
My guess would be the kind of woman who has had very persistent stalkers for a few years. I know I wouldn't.
You wish. No I am not a racist and not a "sexist"... But YOU are.
What do you expect from people who let a man define who they are and what they think? If you don't have a MAN in your life, you're nothing.
Well, think again. I was married for more years than I care to remember, and back then, I was pretty damn close to being nothing, because every day of my life, my husband made sure my self-esteem was shot to shit.
Now I'm happily rid of him, on my own, and happier than I've ever been. Some of us just don't want or need a man in our lives.
So take your pathetic, needy, co-dependent ass back to Mayo's and hang out with people who think the way you do.
Yes, appparently this is how Lindsey and Jessicka's little minions defend them against the wicked witch of the west who DARED to point out MCRSI's blatant racism, homophobia and sexism. Great stuff, ladies. Keep inspiring such acts of wonderful integrity.
You wish. No I am not a racist and not a "sexist"... But YOU are.
Of course, sweetie. *pets*
Is troll school closed today or something?
As usual having an opinion different from yours is called being a "troll". Not surprising!!
No, making gross homophobic comments makes you a troll, idiot.
You're a homophobic loser. GO AWAY.
January 5, 2012 8:56 AM
What do Lyn-Z & Jessicka have to do with any of this gross troll's comments?
What to pin world hunger on them too?
More speculation and a really ignorant thing to type.
January 5, 2012 8:56 AM
BTW. From what I recall Jessicka and kapunua exchanged private emails? Did they not? Even kapunua said Jessicka was civil and nice.
Give this BS a rest already.
Feeding trolls with speculation is a really stupid idea.
Jessicka and Lindsey inspire gross shit like this with the people they are, and in Jessicka's case, the people she excuses and sticks up for. It's no surprise that MSI fans are homophobes too.
and in Jessicka's case, the people she excuses and sticks up for.
This is a crock of bullshit and you know it. You have no reason to dislike this woman except her friendship with Lyn-z Way.
Funnily enough, that is EXACTLY the reason I have a problem with her. She is close friends with a person who promotes racism, sexism, and violence against women, and mocks the victims of these things. She seems to think people should not have a problem with this disgusting friend of hers and anyone who does is a 'bully'.
If Jessicka believed the things she claims to believe in, she would not socialise with such scum.
She seems to think people should not have a problem with this disgusting friend of hers and anyone who does is a 'bully'.
You are putting words in her mouth. All she's ever said is that fans should hate Lyn-z because she is married to their idol love toy imaginary boyfriend Gerard Way. Nothing more.
I can't stand Lyn-Z Way but that doesn't effect my respect for Jessicka.
10:17 AM
Calling somebody scum is really classy. all because of one friendship. :rolls eyes:
She is rationalising any criticism of her friend's behaviour with 'YOU'RE JUST JELLUS' which is a typical response from someone who is denying the impact of their (or their friend's) racism, sexism, or misogyny.
Are you saying Lindsey isn't scum? With things like 'Fuck the tsunami' and panty shot on her resume?
10:33 AM
I don't use the term scum.
10:33 AM
No, she's NOT. You are reading into all of that. She's not racist, she is a feminist, she is pro fat, & pro gay!
She's telling fan girls not to male identify.
IT IS STUPID TO TELL LYN_Z TO kill herself BECAUSE you LOVE Gerard WAY!
can't we all agree on THIS!
It is hard to talk about one feminism. Which feminisms are well-suited for contribution from male-identifying people’s? Which are not?
If Male-Identifying people are feminists, aren't they working for liberation too!
If she's not a racist or secixt, why does she respect Lindsey so much?
She thinks Lindsey is an artist and her work with MSI is art. Songs like 'N*gga' and 'Five Year Old Panty Shot'.
"If she's not a racist or sexist, why does she respect Lindsey so much?"
I have no idea? They friends. Who knows why people are friends? Why don't you ask her, rather than speculating?
January 5, 2012 10:51 AM
YOUR words not hers!
She has been asked, and she refuses to do anything other than claim people don't like Lindsey because they're jealous, and also says things like 'well agree to disagree' about the blatant misogyny and racism. So she disagrees that MSI are racist, that songs like Panty Shot aren't offensive. She's whitewashing and denying the offensive stuff brought to her attention.
If she's not a racist/sexist then she won't have an issue making a public statement where she names Lindsey, Gerard et al and tells everyone she doesn't agree with their racism and sexism.
She retains this loyalty towards these gross people instead of kicking them to the side of the road like she should do with racists and sexists, if she claims to feel as strongly about those things as she does. Her maintained silence does NOTHING to challenge those things, where she could use her position to speak out against them.
She has been asked, and she refuses to do anything other than claim people don't like Lindsey because they're jealous
kapunua asked her and she answered.
Beat a dead horse much?
She's never tweeted people were jealous of Lyn-Z.? Where? Just not to hate her because of who she married. Again, these are your assumptions.
Nah, that's what she told Kapunua via email. She also said that they should agree to disagree about the seriousness of Lindsey's racism and sexism. Sounds like the attitude of an enabler and defender.
11:09 AM
tweeted
Jessicka Jessicka Addams
I deal with my issues with real life friends privately & respectfully off of the internet.
30 Dec
Jessicka Addams
Jessicka Jessicka Addams
Over the years I've found different friend's behavior offensive. I don't agree with it. Please don't mistake my web silence as avoidance.
Now what?
11:10 AM
I don't recall Kapunua saying that. How I'd love to get transcripts of those emails.
Jessicka did not name MCRSI as the topic of those tweets, therefore she is being spineless and evasive. She;s is holding her loyality towards her friends above her supposed loyality towards feminism and anti-racism.
Silence is advocacy. It's hiding from racism. It's trying to hide racism away and not face the hard truth that it's still here and promoted by people like her friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnEP1daIWGw
A video made by our small group for a depth studies class at Quest church.
"We need to continually break the silence about racism whenever we can. We need to talk about it at home, at school, in our houses of worship, in our workplaces, in our community groups."
She could clear this up if she called out her friends publicly for their offensive shit. But she won't. She lacks the courage, and she knows that Lord and Lady Douchebag would drop her like a hot brick. She's choosing her shallow Hollywood lifestyle over what she claims are her real beliefs.
And if you're really against sexism, racism, homophobia and violence against women, you don't befriend a person who's made their entire worthless career out of those things and exploiting the victims of them. Jessicka needs to take a long hard look at her friendships and the people she chooses to spend her time with.
I am a huge MCR fan, but ever since Gerard married LynZ (I really, REALLY don't like her) and the most recent album was released, i've faded a bit.
and not just cos of the music, the whole band seem different.
and seeing this blog REALLY hurts, because i've grown up with MCR and they've been there when I need them most. they used to be great; they weren't always the racist, spontaneous wierdos I see now.
atm, MCR feel like a friend who's just given up on me.
and that is the reason i'm following. because i'm open to truth, and I hate how the band has changed. :/
Those are all good reasons to be here! Welcome! And sorry about the trolls. They stink.
I am hoping that these men have matured emotionally over the past few years to be able to reflect about themselves and understand that they did make an impact, no matter how small, on the lives of some young people in a positive way, and if anything was worth it, it was that.
ALRITE, then, after what I said yesterday, i'm leaving.
yes, you cover a lot of interesting points in your posts, and I would love to see much more of em... and yes, what i said about my feelings towards MCR still stand. but i've never been on a blog with such high levels of hate and anger. I mean, it actually scares me. you people act like others can't make mistakes. yes, some things people say are out of line, portraying them as ignorant, but racist? really?
we all make mistakes. stop acting so righteous. I can guarantee that everyone on here has, once in a while, said something they regret. or something they shouldn't have said.
and it's not even like you're complaining in unison... ur all being spiteful and arguing with each other, which makes me sad.
so yeah, i'm off, before all these attitudes rub off on me. not that little ol' me has any influence on the rest of you... it's more an outburst amongst outbursts.
and i'm sorry if this seems like an attack on every member on here, it's more a general attack from what I can see. I know not every blogger on here is like this, and I apologise to the exceptions :) xxxx
I've been commenting here for a while and don't think any of the regulars are spiteful or mean to anyone. Everybody is given a chance to express their opinion, which can be the problem sometimes as everyone's opinion is different. It gets heated when someone comes here just to cause trouble. I've learned a lot about feminism here.
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