Monday, June 2, 2008

"Courtney, I'll be at your altar. Please keep going Courtney..."

If this post seems like it's all over the place I'm sorry. It is kind of pieced together from various different emails and buzznet messages I got.


Apparently LynZ is not happy with the attention she's getting from being Gerard's wife.

"It's f---ed up and totally offensive that my name has totally disappeared and I am now referred to as 'Mrs. Gerard Way,' " Lyn-Z – who married Way on September 3, 2007, following the final date of the Projkect Revolution tour – told Kerrang! It's f---ed up that little kids want to come to my show to see Gerard standing at the side of the stage. And I don't want to have anything to do with it."

ORLY? Then why did she and Gerard tour together and push their relationship on the public for months, if this was going to be such a problem. You can't believe that they didn't expect it. I will once again quote a friend of mine with permission,

But surely if she meant any of that, no one would have chosen to to the MSI/MCR tour--why go as an opening act if you don't want to be associated?--and definitely would not have used her body as a billboard for the fact that she was married to the singer of a hugely popular band? And if it's true that Gerard feels the same way, then he would not have chosen MSI to support MCR, he would not have spent an entire, what, nine months? talking them up, would not drop his marriage into every interview, and definitely there would not have been a summer of: sharpie references, product placement (the underwear,) showing off of hickies, onstage shout-outs, interviews about how MSI supported them from the beginning and the rest of that whole thing?

Actually, MCR has become product placement for MSI so this whole thing seems very insincere.


It makes me a little mad that I was late getting to this and other people already answered it better than I could answer it. ;)

LynZ said,
"One of the biggest reasons that I do what I do, is for other women and for other girls,

Wait, seriously? With lyrics like,

"5 Year Old Pantyshot
I Can See Between Her Legs
5 Year Old Pantyshot

5 Year Old Mother Fuckin Pantyshot Cant Complain
I Didnt Even Touch Her So I Cant Be Blamed
5 Year Old
Pantyshot In My Brain
My Life Has Meaning When She Spreads Her Legs"

and

"Back off you little shits
Gnawing at my fists
I see they breed you by the boatload

Back off you little whores
Get 'em on all fours"

Those aren't even just a fraction of the sexist, misogynist things they write in their songs and all of a sudden Lyn Z is saying that this is for women and other girls? Also, even after she admitted that she doesn't even bother to play her instrument, she just does backbends and dances, and that is for women and other girls? Just who is she trying to fool?

then suddenly, when I got married, that was taken away from me. I'm suddenly 'wife of blah blah blah.' I think it sends such a bad message to girls because it wipes out all the hard work that I did.

What hard work? She admitted herself that she can't play the bass and doesn't want to learn to improve. She admitted herself that her main talent was doing backbends.

And if she's so concerned about the messages she's sending to little girls, why is she in Mindless Self Indulgence with lyrics like

Every single one of you goddamn bitches ain't never gonna give me no love
I'm telling you every single one of you goddamn bitches ain't never gonna give me no love
Every little thing you do - rock my
Every little thing you do - fucking hole
Little teenage bitch


He [Way] doesn't want that for me either. The questions are neverending, and it's disgusting."

Then why the sharpie messages and the over the top public propaganda of their entire relationship? He pushed their relationship on the audience more than she even did, it was probably his decision to take them on tour, he wore their merchandise and made sure everyone knew it, he talked about MSI in interviews, he made up lies about how they "supported MCR from the beginning", he spent months talking about his wife and her band.

They must think their fans are so stupid. The sad thing is that many of the fans who can't htink for themselves are going to not even think about this.

Then later in Rock Sound she said,

To become "wife of" is without a doubt the most fucking heartbreaking thing that could ever happen. You can work your asses off for 10 years, and you can be amazing,

I hope she's not saying that she's amazing because in the last few interviews she admitted that she sucked and she was fine with that.

but at the end of the day you simply will be who you are married to. Is this nineteen fucking fifty three?

Whose fault is that? And if MSI is so upset that they are getting known for their association with MCR (yeah sure, we definitely believe that)! then why is Steve Righ? wearing a Mikey Fuckin Way t shirt to top it all off?

Role: inspirational bassist and visual artist

"Inspirational" now means "I can't be bothered to learn how to play"?

Now months ago I did
a post about Gerard just wanting to fit in with his new "hardcore" friends and that's why he was acting like such a douche on stage. I said that even before he did the "I want all the females to moan for me" act that he did. Some ex fans thought that Gerard was trying to be like Jimmy Urine. I thought so too but many didn't believe me.

Yet here is Jimmy Urine making the crowd moan for him two years ago.

And again.

and again. (Notice the description of, "Jimmy Urine gets the 99% 13 year old audience laid by doing an interactive sex exercise at the Pheonix on July 23, 2006.")

I guess I don't have to say anything more about that.

With that I leave you some of the lyrics of the "inspirational" Mindless Self Indulgence,


"Now tell me the truth. Be honest with me. Be honest with me. Do I look gay in
this outfit? Ok, fff. Thank God. I thought I looked like a faggot."

"This goes out to all my whores
This one goes out to my whores
Niggers and negros"

"I Suffer Again Because Me Want To Fuck And Touch
And Fuck And Touch The Children
Me Fucked For Life
Me Grow Old And Then They Dont Want Me But I Still Want Them
Dey Want Me Fucked Cuz I Be Da Monstar Getting Down In My Evil Ways "

Thank god they are out there doing this for women and little girls!

Sorry LynZ and Gerard, but you brought this on yourselves and if you say that you didn't expect this, then either you are completley stupid, and you are lying and you think that all the fans are completely stupid.

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Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Why do all the regulars come to Gerard's defense but no one will come forward when people call his wife a whore, hooker, slut, etc.

This is the woman he chose to spend his life with, the woman who will bear his children. How can you profess to care about him and then sit back and allow the future mother of his children to be treated like that?

And you call yourselves feminists.

July 18, 2008 1:23 AM

this was posted at The Mayo blog

Anonymous said...

From Buzznet


ITS JUST A SONG!!!

This is crazy, i was on youtube listening to ''i hate jimmy page'' and reading the comments. Almost everyone who commented on the song were hating on MSI. PEOPLE ITS JUST A FUCKING SONG!!!! You shouldnt take it seriously!!!And MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE ARE FUCKING AWESOME!!!!


Tags: a7x, fan fiction, frank iero, gerard way, lynz, mcr, msi
Posted by mcrki6661 on 07/18/2008 6:45 AM Comments (0)

Anonymous said...

Honestly I don't care if Gerard buys Lyn-Z the Hope Diamond and a 100 ft. yacht because my money won't be paying for it.

Anonymous said...

ITS JUST A SONG!!!

This is crazy, i was on youtube listening to ''i hate jimmy page'' and reading the comments. Almost everyone who commented on the song were hating on MSI. PEOPLE ITS JUST A FUCKING SONG!!!! You shouldnt take it seriously!!!


Try using proper grammar, punctuation, and correct capitalization, please. Thanks.

You can say "It's just this" or "It's just that" about almost anything.
"It's just jews", that's what a a lot of Germans thought.
"It's just blacks", that's what slave owners said.
"MSI is just objectifying women with derogatory names"
"They are just using racial slangs and insulting minorities"
The truth is even though it is "just a song" it will have a strong impact people. Music influences people a lot. Not saying it makes them do things or anything like that, but it does influence people. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't important to humanity.

And MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE ARE FUCKING AWESOME!!!!

Do you have any actual facts to support this statement? 'Awesome' is an opinion.
We here are of the opinion that their music is offensive.
I myself think that they suck as musicians. The 'instrumentals' sound like craply mixed beats, not to mention that they all sound the same, and JU's voice sound's like a cat dying, but that's just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I can't speak for the regulars on the Mayo blog, but many of us here have expressed distaste for the use of misogynistic terms like whore, slut, etc., so I think it's safe to call us feminists.

This does't change the fact that, judging by things she has said in interviews, Lindsey is the one who doesn't really "get" feminism.

And honestly, I couldn't care less about Gerard Way's choice of life partner/potential mother of his children. The only reason I'm here is because of the negative impact that Gerard's behavior has had on the band I used to love.

Anonymous said...

Can I just say that I hate "the mother of his children" arguement. Lots of children are planned, 'accidents' or 'suprises' that are born both in and outside of wed lock and men frequenlty LEAVE the mother of their children and go elsewhere. I'm afraid that in today's society with so many divorces, one night stand pregnancies and break ups, that being the mother of a guys child actually means nothing and in some case the child means nothing to them too.

Anonymous said...

I can totally picture Gerard running out on a kid and leaving LynZ to be its "mother". Oh god no.

Anonymous said...

This is the woman he chose to spend his life with, the woman who will bear his children.

Because every woman is supposed to bear children, right? I mean, what other purpose can we possibly serve on this earth?
/sarcasm

Seems to me the person who posted that comment doesn't "get" feminism either.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

This is the woman he chose to spend his life with, the woman who will bear his children. How can you profess to care about him and then sit back and allow the future mother of his children to be treated like that?



This is the kind of shit that pisses me off.


You could be the worst person in the world but once you become a wife/mother you are given a soul.

Just because you have married or had children you don't all of a sudden become a good person when before you were an asshole.

This also goes along with the hole whore thing.

For some reason we women give respect to other women who have done nothing to deserve it because they have a vagina. We use the excuse that not giving them the respect and calling them out on their actions will bring all women down.

You don't see men doing this. You don't have men in business suits walking not a room with a man who hasn't showered wearing a wife beater and dirty pants saying. He has a dick so we need to show him respect.

I am not saying that everyone go around and start calling women like lynz a whore. But it would be nice if people would see that by not calling the women who act like that out and given them respect that they should have that is what will make women kind look bad.

And it will also teach the future generations both male and female that it is alright to not work to get respect .That all you have to do is have sex with or marry someone who has a lot of respect to become respectable.

It also makes giving women rights look bad. There are a lot of places where women don't have a lot of rights. And when they see people like Pairs Hilton being held up as a respectable person... let just say it looks really bad.


Like I said that doesn't mean everyone should go out and call her a whore.



As far as msi music is concerned. Yes it offends me. But for two reasons.


1. They are using the shock of saying those derogatory words to get noticed.

2.They are making so that young people think those words are okay to use as long as you don't really mean it.


I believe in free speech. msi can say what ever the hell they want. But tha also means I can say what ever the hell I want to back to them.

And if the situations calls for it I will use some off color words right back at them.

Anonymous said...

I can totally picture Gerard running out on a kid and leaving LynZ to be its "mother". Oh god no.

I can see him doing that too. With the kind of mentality that he has he would be like a teenage father, unprepared for the responsibility and not wanting to have to be responsible for a child.
As much as I don't like her, I would feel really terrible for LynZ if that happened to her. No women deserves to have the father of their child flake out.

Anonymous said...

Bravo martha!
All good points.
But didn't MSI say in an interview that they did not have those lyrics to be shocking or gain attention?
Which, to me, says that they believe and mean every word that they sing.
It's one thing to say those things and not mean it, that makes you a joke and a hypocrite, but to say that kind of stuff and mean it? That makes you (to me) a horrible person.

Anonymous said...

MSI uses the word whore all the time. Why would Lyn-Z be offended by it?

Anonymous said...

MSI uses the word whore all the time. Why would Lyn-Z be offended by it?

I can't tell if your comment is sarcastic or what.
But LynZ stated in an interview with tastiTTV that she doesn't like the word slut and that she thinks words like that should be 'eliminated'.

Anonymous said...

I can't tell if your comment is sarcastic or what.
But LynZ stated in an interview with tastiTTV that she doesn't like the word slut and that she thinks words like that should be 'eliminated'.


Okay, she doesn't like words like that even though her band uses them all the time?

I'm beginning to think that woman is mentally challenged. For serious.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Lynz says a lot of stuff and goes back and does the opposite. She thinks it is mean for girls to make fun of other girls. But than while at the last MCR show she sits there and makes fun of the fans.

Anonymous said...

Lynz says a lot of stuff and goes back and does the opposite.

Sounds like she and Gerard have a lot in common.

Anonymous said...

When a person says "This band is against animal cruelty", that sort of implies that they don't agree with animals being beaten and abused and they certainly wouldn't hire a caged - and possibly beaten - animal for entertainment purposes. Or did they change the definition of animal cruelty while my back was turned?

As I said before - we have no way of knowing how Gerard Way personally defines animal cruelty. Nor do we know if that particular chimpanzee was beaten or otherwise blatantly abused. We don't have enough information to make an accurate judgment.

I didn't say I approved of people calling her names, I just said it's not doing any good other than to give them a way to express their anger. Yes it is hypocritical to call her a slut if you are complaining about her hypocracy and lack of respect for women in the first place, but I never called her any such thing.

That wasn't a direct accusation. I was speaking of other people who have called her derogatory terms.

And it seems as if they don't care about getting new fans because Lyn-Z stated that she finds it creepy when MCR fans come see MSI in concert because she assumes they just want to see Gerard.

That might not be a very fair assumption to make but it's not an entirely unreasonable one.

She never talks about Gerard unless it's to complain how she's called "Mrs Gerard Way" now. Now to me, this suggests they think they are above other people and don't need to be good at stuff to be famous. Maybe compassion was the wrong word, but the idea is they don't care about other people.

I'm still not following your logic here. It's really stretching it to jump to the assumption that LynZ 'doesn't care about other people' just because she has expressed wariness about the motivations of some of MSI's newer fans.

MSI shove their lyrics in your face and you have to see them exactly as they are and know that they are meant in that way.

I don't see what the problem is in that. I don't buy the argument that teenagers are so mindless they're unable to evaluate lyrical content - if a teenage girl is offended by the blatant content of MSI's lyrics she's perfectly capable of choosing not to listen to it.

t's unreasinable not to expect someone young to hear the song and like it, and then pressure their parents into taking them to see a concert.

That is a perfectly reasonable expectation. I'm sure it's happened many times.

Which the parents would of course be horrified at because of what is said and done there. Yes, parents should not be taking young kids to see a band which doesn't have a family-friendly image, but that doesn't mean it's the parents fault if their kids do go see a concert by bands like this and get offended or upset by it.

Yes. It does make it the parents' fault if they aren't responsible enough to be aware of the kind of concert they're taking their child to.

A few people have been saying online about the "faggots" thing...But if the man who is supposedly pro-feminism asking people to moan for him is anything to go by... anythig is possible.

So, unsubstantiated rumor.

They haven't worked hard to get to the top, they've worked hard to please their own established fan base. The band never seemed to care about making it big...But the fact that their popularity stems from the marriage of two band members makes my point perfectly valid. They don't deserve to receive all the publicity that they do.

Your logic seems to imply that MSI should be rejecting offers of interviews and covers that are now coming their way. While by your account they 'never seemed to care about making it big' it would be foolish for any band to turn down such opportunities. However MSI did have, as you said, an already established fanbase, which suggests that they were already at a certain level of popularity and success before LynZ and Gerard married.

Bamboozle is a bad example. There are tons of bands there, it's not as if it's the same environment as their own tours.

Then by your logic everything that occurred on PR is a bad example - that wasn't their tour either. They were the closing night headliners at Bamboozle, so I'd imagine they felt more than comfortable to preform as they so chose.

It is a true reflection of the band if they are doing it more than once. Maybe it was meant as a joke, but coming from a man who claimed to have a lot of respect for women, it's disgusting.

So...something happening twice makes it a regular feature of MCR's stage show? Not quite.

I don't really want to read anymore insanely long and repetitive posts about how people who post here are wrong, especially if your only arguements are that you are sick of the poor impressionable little girls line that we are so concerned with, that you should only care about the music, that we should stop bashing the band, that Lyn-Z and Gerard are adults and therefore entitled to do as they like or we shouldn't judge based on interviews and the music they write because we don't know the people personally.

That's...kind of odd, given that those arguments are responses to the major topics of discussion here.

If we, as fans, are so disappionted that we no longer feel a connection to the band, we are entitled to talk about it - as are those who still feel a connection to the band.

I realize you said this wasn't directed at anyone in particular, but as I'm generally one of the few people contributing an opposing point of view - no one ever said you couldn't talk about it, or that you weren't entitled to.

If you don't like it, go to ImNotOkay.net or a similar fansite. After all we don't go there and fill pages with how you are all idiots and should listen to us, so please have the same respect for us and realise that we have different opinions to yours and leave it at that.

I don't come here to call you idiots - I come here to provide an opposing point of view to accusations and arguments that I personally find to be irrational and unreasonable. I wasn't aware that this was meant to be a discussion-free zone.

I've been an MCR fan for roughly five of the last six years and if you can't see a difference in the Gerard of today vs. the Gerard of LOTMS or the WSOU radio interview you must be blind (or perhaps just wearing blinders).

I never said that he hasn't changed - as you said, you'd have to be blind to think that he hasn't. There have been massive changes in his life in the past six years. Does he come off as more arrogant than he used to? Sometimes. But I differ from most of the posters here in that I personally don't think Gerard has reached some irredeemable point where he's a chauvinistic asshole who doesn't care about the fans in the slightest.

Most of us here are reasonable people with valid points and concerns. Don't lump us all into one big Ger-Z hating basket and we won't lump you in with the "GER-Z 4EVA!1!11" BN fangirls.

My apologies. I'm aware that not everyone here shares the exact same views - my statements addressing things like people calling LynZ a whore weren't meant as blanket accusations.

I can see him doing that too. With the kind of mentality that he has he would be like a teenage father, unprepared for the responsibility and not wanting to have to be responsible for a child.

None of us are in any position to make declarations about what exactly his ‘mentality’ is. Let’s not get carried away.

Anonymous said...

None of us are in any position to make declarations about what exactly his ‘mentality’ is. Let’s not get carried away.

Just saying that the behavior he has been displaying publicly leads me to believe that.
I don't know what's he's like personally so I can't say what he's absolutely like.
If that's not how he really is then I don't see why he would be giving himself that kind of image. He's been pretty famous for a while, so he knows that people are going to judge based only on what he says on stage and in interviews, and lately he's been projecting an image of immaturity and assholeness.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I don't see what the problem is in that. I don't buy the argument that teenagers are so mindless they're unable to evaluate lyrical content - if a teenage girl is offended by the blatant content of MSI's lyrics she's perfectly capable of choosing not to listen to it.


Than you have not been to BN. As soon as GW got with lynz all the little fan girls started to adore her. They knew nothing of her except that gw had kissed her.

Than once msi's song where here by more of the fandom when anyone brought up the fact that these song had lyrics that were derogatory toward some groups. All they could say is that it was a joke and had no real meaning.


When video footage of msi comparing MCR and their fans to Nazis came out. This happen before GW hoked up with lynz that was seen as a joke as well.


The fan girls latch onto anything having to do with GW because he did .
You don't know how many times I have read about the fan girls not liking comics but because GW wrote it it must be good so I must go out and buy it.



As I said before - we have no way of knowing how Gerard Way personally defines animal cruelty. Nor do we know if that particular chimpanzee was beaten or otherwise blatantly abused. We don't have enough information to make an accurate judgment.

Most people know where PETA stands when it comes to animal rights. They are very hardcore about what is wrong. So GW shouldn't have done that interview for Peta if he didn't agree with what they stand for.

And that is why people are upset with him. You associate with certain people and groups people are going to assume you share their beliefs.




Your logic seems to imply that MSI should be rejecting offers of interviews and covers that are now coming their way. While by your account they 'never seemed to care about making it big' it would be foolish for any band to turn down such opportunities. However MSI did have, as you said, an already established fanbase, which suggests that they were already at a certain level of popularity and success before LynZ and Gerard married.

It would not be foolish for them to turn down those opportunities. If they were serious musicians. Lynz is not the first woman in a bad to marry some one in a band that is bigger than her. But she is one of the few who used the fact that she was married to someone bigger to get her bans more money.



Fans may like them right now but in the when and if they ever want to be taken seriously it won't happen. Because people will think they are only a name because of who a band member is married to. I will also add that Ju married someone in a band that is a little bit well know. Morning wood. I have yet to see him or her running around on stage acting like love sick teenagers. Or even given each others bands the same kind of attention that Gw gave lynx and msi.



Then by your logic everything that occurred on PR is a bad example - that wasn't their tour either. They were the closing night headliners at Bamboozle, so I'd imagine they felt more than comfortable to preform as they so chose.


Each tour is different. And because there are different kinds of on PR than at Bamboozle the feel of the tour will be different. So you can't really compair PR and Bamboozle. There are acts that play at one that will not play at the other. Because the people that run those shows have a certain feeling they want to get across.


I never said that he hasn't changed - as you said, you'd have to be blind to think that he hasn't. There have been massive changes in his life in the past six years. Does he come off as more arrogant than he used to? Sometimes. But I differ from most of the posters here in that I personally don't think Gerard has reached some irredeemable point where he's a chauvinistic asshole who doesn't care about the fans in the slightest.


He maybe able to go back to being the old GW but it will not be the same. He has told to many lies and tried to change the history of his own band in order to make msi look good.

I can't believe anything that he says anymore. As far as his mentality is concerned. The man is willing to drop the ethics he claimed to hold dear just to come across as being cooler. I think that says a lot about him and his mentality.
Think about it this way. I think most of us here have dealt with people who are very similar to GW and we are basing out opinions of his behavior on that. Also after this long of a time being on road I don't think it is as easy for him to hid his real self from us as it was in the past.


So...something happening twice makes it a regular feature of MCR's stage show? Not quite.


It may not be a regular feature but if it happens twice you know know that their must have been a reason behind it other than I am feeling silly and crazy and what to do something outrageous.

I don't come here to call you idiots - I come here to provide an opposing point of view to accusations and arguments that I personally find to be irrational and unreasonable. I wasn't aware that this was meant to be a discussion-free zone.


This is not a discussion- free zone. But most of your arguments are the same as the people who come on here just to call us names. We have tried to be nice in the past but all we get was the fan girls calling us all sorts of names. So most of us ended up here because we didn't have to deal with the name calling and we could talk to people who felt the same way as us. This is our safe heaven.


What this comes down to is we are all hear because we see that there is something wrong with a band we like/use to like. This is the only place where we are still free to talk about it and how we feel and what we see.

You have to understand that we have had to deal with being shut down in almost all our attempts to talk about this.

Anonymous said...

As I said before - we have no way of knowing how Gerard Way personally defines animal cruelty. Nor do we know if that particular chimpanzee was beaten or otherwise blatantly abused. We don't have enough information to make an accurate judgment.

Quite frankly, how Gerard defines animal cruelty isn't the issue here. We may not know whether or not the chimp in question was beaten, but we do know that it was a very young chimp and that it was taken away from its family and deprived of a normal social life, otherwise it would be unsuitable for use as "party entertainment". Given the social nature of chimps in the wild, the use of these creatures for human entertainment is inherently cruel -- no matter how you choose to look at it.

So...something happening twice makes it a regular feature of MCR's stage show? Not quite.

Once again, I don't think you are seeing the real issue here. I don't care whether Gerard did the "moan for me" bit two times or two hundred times. The fact that he did it once was enough for me.

When I saw MCR on the Revenge tour back in 05, a very young girl threw her bra up on the stage. He picked it up and asked who threw it. He then proceeded to tell the girl in a very big brotherly tone, "You realize I could probably go to jail just for holding this thing, right?" That Gerard knew who made up his audience and he absolutely would not have told that young girl to "moan for him and make it convincing."

Like someone said in an earlier comment, it isn't that he changed, it's how he has changed and also the degree of that change.

If you don't see that, fine. However, some of us do and we are entitled to our opinions just as you are to yours.

Lastly, I don't understand why you feel the need to constantly go after martha jones. To me, she seems like a person with high ideals who feels things very deeply. Also, she isn't afraid to put express her feelings openly and honestly. I respect her for that.

Anonymous said...

'assholeness'

Yes!! That's exactly the vibe I'm getting from 'new' Gerard in one word.

IMHO Lyn-Z will walk out on the kid first then Gerard will hand it over to his mother so he can go find another woman stat without anyone else getting in the way. I can genuinely see him being that much of a shit.

Anonymous said...

yOU guys are crazy - she'd obviously just eat it!

Anonymous said...

IMHO Lyn-Z will walk out on the kid first then Gerard will hand it over to his mother so he can go find another woman stat without anyone else getting in the way. I can genuinely see him being that much of a shit.

Honestly, so can I. I can also see him blaming the abandonment on his career and touring too.

Anonymous said...

Gerard and LynZ both act like they're in middle school. LynZ is the 'tough girl' who likes breaking the rules and Gerard is the kid who's getting laid and feels compelled to brag about it to anyone who will listen. I seriously doubt that either one of them wants children when they both seem so intent on re-living their own adolescence.

Besides, can you see LynZ pregnant?

Anonymous said...

'Besides, can you see LynZ pregnant?'

Only if it looked like he was about to ditch her, then she'd try and get knocked up to keep the gravy train rolling..

Anonymous said...

'Gerard is the kid who's getting laid and feels compelled to brag about it to anyone who will listen.'

If I was hitting THAT I'd never admit to it!

Must be love/bad reaction to Valtrex.

Anonymous said...

Besides, can you see LynZ pregnant?

If she does than that poor baby will proberly die from all the cocaine and alcohol she takes.

Anonymous said...

'LynZ is the 'tough girl' who likes breaking the rules'

Well she tried to be a hard-core punk chick, but she's failed miserably and ended up in a comedy pop act with a fanbase even teenier than Avril Lavigne's, all the cutting edge of Mandy Moore and less shock value than a harmless picture of Miley Cyrus' bare back.

Step it up girl, frankly you're boring me...

Anonymous said...

Step it up girl, frankly you're boring me...

The only thing "bad" this "hardcore punk chick" can do is slag people off like her fans, her husbands fans, Hayley Williams and Miley Cyrus. Basically she'a a pathetic 32 year old woman who likes to pick on teenagers.

Anonymous said...

I forgot - she's also known from bitching about her husband too, so she's not limited to teens. My bad.

Anonymous said...

'The only thing "bad" this "hardcore punk chick" can do is slag people off like her fans, her husbands fans, Hayley Williams and Miley Cyrus.'

QFT. Although you never know - if she's feeling particularly dangerous after a hard evening's entertaining a bunch of 13-year old MyChem fans who went hoping for a glimpse of Gerard at the side of the stage, she might even put a whole shot of Jagermeister in her bedtime cocoa. Careful now Lyn-Z, don't get too close to the edge!!

Anonymous said...

Lastly, I don't understand why you feel the need to constantly go after martha jones. To me, she seems like a person with high ideals who feels things very deeply. Also, she isn't afraid to put express her feelings openly and honestly. I respect her for that.

I wasn't 'going after' anyone. I was responding to people who had replied to my posts.


Don't forget about fetal alcohol syndrome, guys. Just think of how fucked up their potential kids could be!


To be honest, I find it rather interesting that despite the obvious distaste for MSI/LynZ displayed by many of you, you seem to be well-versed in their recent media - interviews, articles, performances, etc. I'm not into MSI, so I don't follow them. Can any of you explain this to me? If you can't stand the band, why is it that you know so much about them? And the same goes for buzznet- I'd never heard of this 'monkeygate' because I don't go there. For all that you make fun of 'BN teenies,' you sure seem to spend a lot of time there.

Just something to think about.

Anonymous said...

For all that you make fun of 'BN teenies,' you sure seem to spend a lot of time there.

We like to laugh at people who ass kiss a woman who so clearly doesn't deserve it. It's a little petty and whatnot, but I've got a petty nature and I'm not afraid to admit it. Besides, BN has all the gossip about MCR. Not all of the people on BN are bad either - some of them have brains.

To be honest, I find it rather interesting that despite the obvious distaste for MSI/LynZ displayed by many of you, you seem to be well-versed in their recent media - interviews, articles, performances, etc.

Again, laughing. LynZ has a unique way of making herself look like a complete fucking idiot everytime she opens her mouth. It's amusing.

Don't forget about fetal alcohol syndrome, guys. Just think of how fucked up their potential kids could be!

Even without FAS, any potential child of their's would be seriously fucked up - look at it's genetics. Then, there's their already questioned parenting skills.......poor thing has no chance.

Anonymous said...

noyadedumoineau said...

For all that you make fun of 'BN teenies,' you sure seem to spend a lot of time there.


For all that you seem to disagree with the contents and comments on this blog, you sure seem to spend a lot of time here.

Just something to think about.

Anonymous said...

I'm not into MSI, so I don't follow them. Can any of you explain this to me? If you can't stand the band, why is it that you know so much about them? And the same goes for buzznet- I'd never heard of this 'monkeygate' because I don't go there. For all that you make fun of 'BN teenies,' you sure seem to spend a lot of time there.

Ah, if only the rest of us were as reasonable, rational and perfect as you [think] you are.

El-oh-fucking-el.

Get over yourself.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Thank you Kate


To answer your questions noyadedumoineau


Most of us came from either Bn or INO. so We know a lot about what at those places. Some of us may still have friends there.

Also the BNers do come around here from time to time so it is a good idea to know who you are dealing with.

The same goes for msi and lynz. I think most people here gave msi a chance but once we saw what they were like in interviews and on stage we made our decision about them.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

noyadedumoineau


If you don't go to bn how did you find out about us? It isn't like this place is advertised. Except for it being mentioned at MCR fan sites in the beginning. But I don't think this place gets talked about to much anymore.

Anonymous said...

To my knowledge, "monkeygate" didn't break on BN at all. I heard about it on a private lj community and someone posted about it here and at Mayo's.

I don't think anyone expected PETA to take any kind of drastic action (like they did when Fall Out Boy decided to use real apes in a video and when Speed Racer used an actual chimp instead of CG), because it was a rather minor incident, but I'm sure they did contact Reprise or Riot Squad, because the tech who posted the blog about Lyn's birthday party deleted the paragraphs referring to the chimp shortly after fans began expressing their concern.

Anonymous said...

If you don't go to bn how did you find out about us? It isn't like this place is advertised. Except for it being mentioned at MCR fan sites in the beginning. But I don't think this place gets talked about to much anymore.

There's a link to here on INO. That's how I found this place.
And I'm so happy I did.

Anonymous said...

"Can any of you explain this to me? If you can't stand the band, why is it that you know so much about them? ... For all that you make fun of 'BN teenies,' you sure seem to spend a lot of time there.

Just something to think about."


It's called "learning the facts before you state your case". Apparently lawyers do it occasionally before they present to court, else it could get embarrassing.

Are you sure you're not Lyn-Z, because you've just made yourself look as stupid as she does!!

Anonymous said...

http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/metal_hammer_tv/

Anonymous said...

http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/metal_hammer_tv/

No thanks. I've suffered through that already and I think I lost a significant number brain cells.

There's also a Jimmy Urine interview on Kerrang.com. Apparently he takes a piss during the interview - the boys got some serious class.

Anonymous said...

I have no idea what MSI has to do with metal so I'm a bit confused as to why they would be interviewed by Metal Hammer.

But lol at them bragging about being almost uninsurable because of all their "legal issues." I know I'm impressed.


Not.

Anonymous said...

I have no idea what MSI has to do with metal so I'm a bit confused as to why they would be interviewed by Metal Hammer.
Because LynZ's fucking Gerard - that's why. It has nothing to with them being metal or even "musicians".

But lol at them bragging about being almost uninsurable because of all their "legal issues." I know I'm impressed.
Yeah, they're just soooo hardcore and badass aren't they.

Anonymous said...

Hi, long time reader, first time poster.

'Yeah, they're just soooo hardcore and badass aren't they.'

Well, to my deep and enduring shame I did see them live (curiousity!) and I was SHOCKED AND APPAULED!!!

Shocked and appauled that is, that they're still claiming to be a 'punk' band. I couldn't have been more disapointed that I was less offended! apart from a couple of underage sex jokes and a sprinkling of 'c...s' I might as well have been at a McFly gig! except then the misuc would be better.

and How do you make things italics?

Anonymous said...

Hi Natasha.

How do you make things italics?

(i)Type what you want here(/i)

Change ( and ) to < and >

Type b instead of i if you want bold text.

Anonymous said...

Thanks safe!

and I was 'appalled' not 'appauled'.. I knew it looked wrong!

Anonymous said...

Shocked and appauled that is, that they're still claiming to be a 'punk' band. I couldn't have been more disapointed that I was less offended! apart from a couple of underage sex jokes and a sprinkling of 'c...s' I might as well have been at a McFly gig!

Oh, but according to Lindsey (from Rocksound - July, 2008), "MSI are the only punk band currently around."

Is that supposed to be a joke or is she really that stupid?

Anonymous said...

Oh, I think it's been established that she really is that stupid.

The question then becomes: if she was last in line when they were handing out brains, what the hell was she queueing up for?!!

I'm guessing it wasn't class or musical talent.

Anonymous said...

Maybe she queued for stupidity?

Anonymous said...

Thanks safe!

and I was 'appalled' not 'appauled'.. I knew it looked wrong!


No problem Natasha. Don't worry about the typo - we all do it. The typo fairy's a little cowbag and we should kill her.

Anonymous said...

i am wishing all of you would stop with the mean comments and hate of gerard. for the past nearly two years i am so worried for him, i dont think he is in his right mind and all this mean commets is not doing anything to help.

i heard people say about how he was trying to get back with his kat after breaking off with her and she wouldnt take him back because of elizsa and the cheating and he was so miserable around christmastime he was deperate and alone and got engaged with eliza right after new years. the falling for lynz so sudden after breaking up with elisa is because he is scared to be alone. he is not in his right mind or he wouldnt be acting the way he is and everyone needs to give him some space and send him good wishes and happy thoughts and maybe he will come to his senses.

please stop hating him, he dosent deserve to be bashed in this way. he is going to be needing his fans when he realises he made mistakes with lynz and jimmy and trying to be like msi.

Anonymous said...

Hi Gerard's no 1 fan,

I think that proberly most of the people on here care about him - they just show it in a different way. We feel empathy and concern for him but because he pisses us of quite frequently with his behaviour we lash out with critism and bitching because maybe if someone where to say these thing to his face - he might wise up. It's our way of showing concern for him. We believed in him and now we're let down by him, hence being pissed.

he is going to be needing his fans when he realises he made mistakes with lynz and jimmy and trying to be like msi.
I hope he does wake up to his mistakes soon, and still has a fan base that will be as understanding as you but also more than aware that he's messed up along the way.

Anonymous said...

1:40

At the risk of sounding mean, (which I am not intending to), GW does not "need" his fans. Fans are there to purchase a commodity, that is his music. Now, the music may have a personal meaning to you, but basically they are there to entertain you, and you exchange money for this.

Now if he and his wife choose to behave as total fools in public, obviously there might be repercussions. And people will express their varying opinions.

And much of it, to be expected, will be negative. They are very aware of this, as they are in the public eye.

But I have to say, supporting an "artist" does not mean not being able to challenge or question bizarre behavior. They have people at their labels stroking their egos, they don't need more.

Maybe losing something of value to him, may make him question things, instead of allowing the continuing delusion.

Anonymous said...

"she wouldnt take him back because of elizsa and the cheating"

A fan of Gerard Way actually admitting that she thinks he cheated? Pencil this day in your diaries people!!

Anonymous said...

Pencil this day in your diaries people!!
Fuck that - make it perminant and write it in pen. It's historic.

Anonymous said...

Shoots, write it in sharpie on your neck. ;)

Anonymous said...

Someone made a post on ohnotheydidnt about MCR doing a cover of Bob Dylan's Desolation Row for the Watchmen movie. People are flipping their shit. So much MCR hate and talk of how it's "not cool" to like them now.

I hope all of you very happy.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anonymous said...

Someone made a post on ohnotheydidnt about MCR doing a cover of Bob Dylan's Desolation Row for the Watchmen movie. People are flipping their shit. So much MCR hate and talk of how it's "not cool" to like them now.

I hope all of you very happy.

July 25, 2008 4:57 PM

You really don't understand what this place is about do you? Or can you just not read?


We don't hate MCR no matter how much you want to believe that we do. We are just disappointed with Gerard.

He was acting like a fool. So if anyone made it uncool to like MCR it was Him.


Anyway most of those people probably didn't like MCR in the first place. And with fans like you they really don't need to worry about it. Because you will shell out your parents money for anything that has to do with MCR.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I forgot to add if someone says that don't like a band anymore because it isn't cool. they were never a fan to begin with. They just latched on to them because they were the flavor of the month. So get you panties untwisted.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBppFqV_Bc4



He isn't well

Anonymous said...

Well he could of washed his hair or at least combed the mats out of the back of it but at least he shaved.

Anonymous said...

Holy crap! He looks like shit. He sounds happy though. Must be the drugs - I mean come on, it's obvious by just looking at him.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure a lot of Gerard's fans will think it's nitpicking to point out that his hair seemed really messed up in that video clip. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I don't think it's nitpicking at all.

I remember the days when he was drinking heavily and using drugs. Back then he never seemed to care about his grooming at all - particularly the mats in his hair. If you pay attention to the interviews and events that took place after he got clean, his hair was always groomed and shiny.

When I saw the picture of him at Frank's wedding reception and he looked like he hadn't even bothered to run a brush through his hair it worried me. This clip from Comic-Con just worries me even more.

Anonymous said...

I'd noticed that to 6.55

He's so skinny!

Anonymous said...

I agree about the hair and about him being skinny, but his eyes! He has dead eyes. I wish I'd never watched the thing. :(

Anonymous said...

i think you guys are the ones on drugs. gerard looked great. he did not have 'dead eyes' and his hair was fashinably messy. stop making up stupid evidence of him being on drugs because your just making yourselves look stupid.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anonymous said...

i think you guys are the ones on drugs. Gerard looked great. he did not have 'dead eyes' and his hair was fashionably messy. stop making up stupid evidence of him being on drugs because your just making yourselves look stupid.

July 26, 2008 9:04 AM


If you don't like what we are saying go back to BN or INO. Not everyone has their head up GW's ass. Some of us know better than to thing he is being fashionable with that look. Because GW maybe a lot of things but up on the latest fashion isn't one of them.

Anonymous said...

So what if he's skinny or he looked tired. The guy has talked about having insomnia before. I know I don't always look well rested and I never took drugs in my life. And so what if his hair looked messy? It's looked messy a lot since last summer. Are you saying he's been on drugs since last summer? Maybe he's just trying to look more punk and less like TBP Gerard.

I don't think he's perfect. He's human and lke all of us he's going to make mistakes (e.g. Eliza) but I don't think having messed up hair automatically screams DRUGS!1! That's just rediculous.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anonymous said...

So what if he's skinny or he looked tired. The guy has talked about having insomnia before. I know I don't always look well rested and I never took drugs in my life. And so what if his hair looked messy? It's looked messy a lot since last summer. Are you saying he's been on drugs since last summer? Maybe he's just trying to look more punk and less like TBP Gerard.


So what if he is skinny, even if he isn't on drugs his weight gain and losing it the why he does is not good for his body or heart.

I don't always look well rest either but I don't look like that and I wouldn't think you would either. And I have insomnia as well . Most people think that he goes on and off the stuff but yes he probably has been on it since last summer.




I don't think he's perfect. He's human and like all of us he's going to make mistakes (e.g. Eliza) but I don't think having messed up hair automatically screams DRUGS!1! That's just ridiculous.


This is not about being perfect. You need to get that through your head. No one ever thought he was perfect. We all know that he is a fucked up guy. But he seemed to be working on getting better.


It is more than just messed up hair. It is the way he has been acting for a while. The way he appears. It is a lot of little things that add up to one big problem.


July 26, 2008 9:36 AM

Anonymous said...

I don't think he's perfect. He's human and lke all of us he's going to make mistakes (e.g. Eliza) but I don't think having messed up hair automatically screams DRUGS!1! That's just rediculous.

First of all, you're just a fan and you're no place to say that Eliza was a mistake. Whoever he has dated is his business.
Like martha said, it's not just his messed up hair it's that plus everything else he has been doing.

By the way rediculous is spelled r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s, i not e.

Anonymous said...

OMFG!! [a bit tooo much???]

http://www.mychemicalromance.com/store/?eml=mcr/0708/masks

omg here on the my chemical romance store.

the masks they made for The Black Parade Is Dead

Is $29.99 fucking dollars for each one!!

For a bundle thing for all four its $99.99 f-ing dollars!

In other words $100!

Im a My Chemical Romance fan, but I do not agree with this.

Its a total fucking rip-off...I get they designed it and stuff, and its limited.

But bro I know they're an amazing band. But this is just too much!

Do they think all of us are freaking rich?? Some fans are under-age no job,

and really what parent thats not filthy rich would give their kid $100 to buy four

masks made by their favorite band?? I dont think many!!

Im totally shocked!

Anonymous said...

^That is completely ridiculous. Who would spend that much money from some freaking masks. They don't even looks good, they look stupid.

Anonymous said...

Do they think all of us are freaking rich?? Some fans are under-age no job,
I know - and some fans are over age with bills to pay.

What the fuck are they thinking? Greedy little bastards.

Anonymous said...

IMO, Warner is trying to get as much money out of MCR right now as they can because they probably know something many of us already suspect:

MCR has made their last record together.

Things aren't looking too good. Gerard has moved to L.A., he's been going out with MSI on the road, he took Jimmy and his wife with him to the Eisner awards...and then there's Leathermouth.

It's a side-project, sure. But the lyrics are dark and angry and somehow I just don't see Frank going out and touring with those songs and then coming back to My Chem. Not to mention, according to Leathermouth's website, one of the songs on the new album is called Your friends are full of shit. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

Seriously, though, would you pay money to buy an MCR record or see a show if Frank left the band? I know I wouldn't.

As for Bob and Ray...when was the last time either of them even cared to come out and sign autographs or do an interview? I don't think they give a shit anymore.

So...run out and get your hundred dollar four pack of masks while you still can, kiddies -- and if you didn't get the boxset, go pay out the ass to get it from some jerk on ebay (although I'm going to pass and save my money for Leathermouth). I'm betting TBPID is MCR's last hurrah.

Anonymous said...

Gerard has moved to L.A., he's been going out with MSI on the road, he took Jimmy and his wife with him to the Eisner awards...
Okay, I understand taking LynZ but why the fuck was Piss Face there?

I think that what you've said 8.22 is proberly correct.

Anonymous said...

Sorry if this sounds like I'm nitpicking but, it's not 'proberly', it's probably. Again I'm sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine.

Anonymous said...

Seriously, though, would you pay money to buy an MCR record or see a show if Frank left the band?

Hell no!

Anonymous said...

according to Leathermouth's website, one of the songs on the new album is called Your friends are full of shit.

What does that have to do with anything? Frank will never leave MCR. He loves that band.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

according to Leathermouth's website, one of the songs on the new album is called Your friends are full of shit.

What does that have to do with anything? Frank will never leave MCR. He loves that band.

July 27, 2008 9:55 AM


Frank may have loved the band in the past. But the band is not the same band anymore.


It has become all about Gerard showing the world that he is getting laid.

It is all about how "happy" he is and no one else in the band matters.

Anonymous said...

Frank may have loved the band in the past. But the band is not the same band anymore.

It most definitely is not the same band it used to be. I think that's why there was no backstage documentary included with TBPID. The band members just don't seem to be able to dredge up any enthusiasm for what they're doing anymore.

The only thing I ever get from interviews these days is how AMAAAYZING married life is for Gerard. Music? Who gives a fuck when Gerard is sooooo happy?

Damn shame, really.

Anonymous said...

Now that Comic-Con is over, hopefully GWay will just go away for a while...at least until the next series of TUA comes out in November.

I think we all could use a reprieve from him.

Anonymous said...

For all the naysayers: LynZ was at Comic Con supporting her man. They love each other very much. She looked very beautiful and he looked happy and healthy.

Time for you all to get a new hobby.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

For all the naysayers: LynZ was at Comic Con supporting her man. They love each other very much. She looked very beautiful and he looked happy and healthy.

Time for you all to get a new hobby.

July 27, 2008 2:48 PM

Wow, you came all this way to tell us that the whore was at comic con.

I think you are the one who needs to get a new hobby. Better yet get a real life.

Because placing all your happiness on that trainreck of a relationship is jut silly.

Anonymous said...

Okay, I understand taking LynZ but why the fuck was Piss Face there?

Seems as though Gerard and JU are besties these days.

Oh, wait. What was I thinking? They've always been besties... ever since MCR was a baby band and MSI gave them their big break by allowing them to play on the same stage with them. *rolls eyes*

Anonymous said...

I was reading through this post and all of the comments when suddenly I came to the realization that none of this matters.

We can go on about all of this until we are all positively blue in the face and it won't change a damn thing.

Someone we used to believe in disappointed us. Either he changed or he was never the person we thought he was. So what?

It's time to let this go. If you don't like Gerard Way, then don't buy his records, don't read his comics and don't go to his shows. Go listen to some other band and just be happy.

Let's all just go live our lives and let him live his. Gerard Way owns his mistakes and he'll have to be the one to pay for them.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I get what you are saying anon. But for me I can't just walk away right now.


I need to know if it was all a lie or he just thinks it is cooler to be an ass. I don't think I will ever know but if this stuff gets back to him than maybe we will find out.


I have already stopped buying anything MCR.

Anonymous said...

I'll be honest, I really do want to walk away and just let all of this go, but I can't. I don't know why I can't, but my heart just will not let me give up on GW or the band. It's crazy because when I've been disappointed or let down before by other bands (some that I've liked for more than a decade) I just vent my anger for a little bit, toss and or pack away the albums and then just move on. But MCR seems to have a very strong hold on me that I can't explain. Sometimes I wish that I had never heard of them. The rest of the time I just wish that GW would get his head out of his ass and look at what his actions are doing; to himself, his band and the fans.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
For all the naysayers: LynZ was at Comic Con supporting her man. They love each other very much. She looked very beautiful and he looked happy and healthy.

Time for you all to get a new hobby.

July 27, 2008 2:48 PM


Dear Anon,

Can't you read? LynZ being at Comic Con was already mentioned. Why are you telling us again?

Anonymous said...

"She looked very beautiful and he looked happy and healthy."

Now I know you're lying!!

"I was reading through this post and all of the comments when suddenly I came to the realization that none of this matters."

No shit Sherlock! Of course none of this matters, do you honestly think we all post here in the hope that it's going to get back to Gerard and he will immediately realise the error of his ways, apologise, and everything will go back to our chosen version of "normal"? Veritavenom's is where we come to vent some frustration that a man who once was such a positive role model has sacrificed that position because he'd prefer to powder his nose and be some bizarre version of "cool". It brightens my insignificant little life to watch grown men flounder around humiliating themselves over a repulsive excuse for a woman, but hell, if he's hitting that it means nobody else has too.

Unknown said...

For all of you that are utterly convinced this is MCR's last record, 'none of them are into it anymore', etc, have any of you bothered to watch videos of them performing the two new songs?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HzK4RIiDilk

2:30ish, when the song kicks in? and same for this vid:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1JrlH7KqvrA&fmt=18

Yeah, they're clearly bored and not into it. Sure. Lmao.

Anonymous said...

No one ever said that Ray isn't into his art. So he bangs his head during the performance of some actual 'new' material. I'm sure he was thrilled shitless to be playing something that sounded more like they used to when they started out.

Does that mean there is unity in the band? Does one new song mean the guys have it in them to write another record? Time will tell, but I personally don't think so.

BTW, I've seen MCR in concert a dozen times and wow, was that 'live' DVD overdubbed or what? lmfao

Anonymous said...

And another thing. You want to see Frank really excited and into a performance? Watch this.

Yeah. If I were him I wouldn't come back and stand behind a guy who threw me down and stomped on my setup in front of thousands of people when I could do this instead.

Anonymous said...

...people are seriously whinging that LynZ was at ComiCon? Seriously? God, how disgusting that a married couple would want to spend time together. Obviously Gerard should have dragged out the rest of the MCR boys, to prove that he really loves them! Because god knows it's not like they have wives they might want to spend time with. And wow, how on earth did Gerard convince Mikey to come and hang around while he was doing his signing? I mean I'm sure you all know how much Mikey must hate him for being snubbed in the TBPID liner notes - maybe he bribed him with some coke! Littler Way is looking mighty skinny too.

And dude! I totally agree with those of you who are pissed about no docu footage on TBPID! We missed all the good stuff - nervous breakdowns should always be filmed and shared with the public!

High-five to whoever was talking about Bob and Ray not caring. Those guys are such assholes. I mean, really. Bob was just fucking around with that girl he took the time to take a picture with at the Empires show in Chicago. You can totally see in his eyes that he's secretly laughing at her. And Ray - he's always hated the fans! When has he ever spent time signing stuff for the squealing masses?

At least we have Super!Frank, though. Super!Frank who can survive things like this this - although maybe he's just gone deaf. Fuck the other guys for not wanting to deal with that, man. What dicks.

Unknown said...

I'm sure he was thrilled shitless to be playing something that sounded more like they used to when they started out.

...because it's not like he wrote his own parts on TBP. right.

anyway, that's just an assumption that fits the beloved theme here that mcr's falling apart because of gerard, lol. they're clearly enjoying themselves here and loving the new material. that they somehow managed to still write new stuff while on that endless touring cycle is pretty compelling proof that they're not abandoning ship just yet.

Unknown said...

he's the frontman in leathermouth- obviously with more of an opportunity to emote than with a guitar strapped on him. i don't think it's that different from how he's prone to roll around onstage raping his guitar, but again, you see what you want to.

Anonymous said...

...people are seriously whinging that LynZ was at ComiCon?
Where? I saw no such comment.

Littler Way is looking mighty skinny too.
When hasn't Mikey looked skinny?

And wow, how on earth did Gerard convince Mikey to come and hang around while he was doing his signing?
Mikey loves comics as much as Gerard. I don't think Mikey would have needed any convincing to attend there, even if Gerard wasn't doing a signing. Although, it was sweet he travelled all that way and supported his brother.

We missed all the good stuff - nervous breakdowns should always be filmed and shared with the public!
Who's nervous breakdown was that? Mikey's and Gerard's were well over a year ago so I don't think any of that would have been included in a documentary simply because it's dated.

...because it's not like he wrote his own parts on TBP. right.
It must be boring doing the same thing over and over again - that's proberly why Ray was so hyper.

they're clearly enjoying themselves here and loving the new material. that they somehow managed to still write new stuff while on that endless touring cycle is pretty compelling proof that they're not abandoning ship just yet.
If you think so.....but will anyone really care when they do return?

Can't you tell it's the summer hoildays and the kiddies are bored on their computers?

Anonymous said...

that they somehow managed to still write new stuff while on that endless touring cycle is pretty compelling proof that they're not abandoning ship just yet.

Wow, two songs in two years. Yeah, they're so into writing now, aren't they? And it's not like either of those songs is really new; they've been doing them for a while now.

Besides, that 'World is ugly' song is pretty crap. I suppose I should commend them for having the good sense not to put it on the DVD.

Anonymous said...

he's prone to roll around onstage raping his guitar,

How exactly do you rape a guitar? Someone give the little girl a dictionary....or common sense.

Laurel - are you doing well in your GCSE's Hun?

Anonymous said...

Besides, that 'World is ugly' song is pretty crap. I suppose I should commend them for having the good sense not to put it on the DVD.

Both of those song fucking suck.

Anonymous said...

...because it's not like he wrote his own parts on TBP. right.

Um, did I say Ray didn't write his parts for TBP? *goes back to read* Nope, didn't think so.

Anonymous said...

i don't think it's that different from how he's prone to roll around onstage raping his guitar, but again, you see what you want to.

Um, also, didn't see him rolling around onstage 'raping' his guitar on either of those two videos you posted, either.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"...people are seriously whinging that [...] Fuck the other guys for not wanting to deal with that, man. What dicks."


Fuck me. I'm glad you spent your time typing all that out because now I've realised that I was wrong all along and Gerard Way isn't a complete douche and hypocrite and his wife is a gorgeous human being who epitomises the feminist ideal having never comprimised her artistic integrity by substituting her sublime talent with her fragrant beauty.

Now I'm off to spend $100 on a full set MCR masks because that's not a complete rip-off at all....

Anonymous said...

Now I'm off to spend $100 on a full set MCR masks because that's not a complete rip-off at all....
I'm right behind you!

his wife is a gorgeous human
I think she's pretty. No sarcasm.

Anonymous said...

'they're clearly enjoying themselves here and loving the new material.'

Someone's got to enjoy the new material because to my ear both the new songs are shit.

Unknown said...

regardless of whether or not you personally like the songs, you can see that the guys are into them- that was my point.

and yes. i so obviously meant he was literally raping it, lmao. christ, it's not like you're casual fans, but let me explain: you know how frank tends to roll around onstage at times? thrashing? it's called using a figure of speech to allude to that. do i REALLY have to post a vid of him doing that? go play on youtube, there's thousands. now it's kiiinda seeming like you're just itching to get in a pissing contest over who's the biggest grownup here but let's try and stay on topic, shall we? instead of trying to personally attack me for no apparent reason, why don't you stick to trying to address the points i've made if you'd like? thanks. :)

and 4:05- i was responding to you implying 'something that sounded more like they used to when they started out'. ray's just as much of a part of their more recent sound, so that makes little, if any, sense.

Anonymous said...

"I think she's pretty. No sarcasm."

maybe with the crap wiped off her face, but I was referring to the lack of beauty inside -as demonstrated by her ugly attitude in the interviews shes recently done and towards the fans.

Anonymous said...

'something that sounded more like they used to when they started out'.

Okay, let me rephrase. I'm sure Ray was thrilled shitless to be playing something that was reminiscent of MCR's punk roots.

I did not intend to imply that Ray does not like TBP. Sorry if it came off that way. However, it has been pointed out by many people (music critics included) that the band in general seems to be more enthusiastic when playing the older material, and to me, the Untitled song on the DVD sounds more like old MCR.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 4:15 here -

Fuck me. I'm glad you spent your time typing all that out because now I've realised that I was wrong all along and Gerard Way isn't a complete douche and hypocrite and his wife is a gorgeous human being who epitomises the feminist ideal having never comprimised her artistic integrity by substituting her sublime talent with her fragrant beauty.

Now I'm off to spend $100 on a full set MCR masks because that's not a complete rip-off at all....


So glad I could help you out with that! I agree, $100 is totally worth it for some cardboard masks. I mean think about everything you could use them for - they'd probably make great tinder!

And to other anon who responded to me: I am seriously and truly amused that you apparently took my post in any way seriously. Mikey Way has always been skinny?! No wai!!!

Can't you tell it's the summer hoildays and the kiddies are bored on their computers?

Your post sure as hell cemented it! Party time on the internet.

How exactly do you rape a guitar? Someone give the little girl a dictionary....or common sense.

Someone teach this apparently very, very (very! really guys, she's not a little girl! let's all be very clear on this) adult woman what a figure of speech is.

But seriously, thank fuck we poor, hapless teenies have all you well-educated adults looking out for us. God knows it's impossible to develop rational thought before our mid-thirties.

Anonymous said...

do i REALLY have to post a vid of him doing that?

Yes, we've all seen him doing that and no, you don't have to post a video of it. The point I was making is that he hasn't been doing a lot of it as of late.

Anonymous said...

Hey, 4:15.

You know, if I were you, I wouldn't have reposted 4:59's comment because she/he is way better at the sarcasm than you are.

Anonymous said...

Aw :(

Does this mean I lose at the internet?

Anonymous said...

Yep, you do. And we all know what serious business the internet is.

Anonymous said...

But wait - does that mean that this is in fact a game of Wittiest on the Interwebs?

Anonymous said...

If you're referring to this post and the comments being a game of wit, the answer is no.

If you're referring to how trolls are normally dealt with on the internet, the answer is yes.

And you, my dear, are a troll.

Anonymous said...

you know how frank tends to roll around onstage at times? thrashing? it's called using a figure of speech to allude to that.
We understand that! But 'raping' is not the word to use. Why no Frank 'goes mental' or 'insane'? Rape is a word for sexual assult and should remain that way.

do i REALLY have to post a vid of him doing that?
Since I've seen him do it many a time I would have to say "no". Don't post another video.


Can't you tell it's the summer hoildays and the kiddies are bored on their computers?

Your post sure as hell cemented it! Party time on the internet.

How exactly do you rape a guitar? Someone give the little girl a dictionary....or common sense.

Someone teach this apparently very, very (very! really guys, she's not a little girl! let's all be very clear on this) adult woman what a figure of speech is.

Baby, I'm 23 and bored at work. How I fucking wish I was on my summer holidays again. Instead I'm in an office sweating my ass off trying to convince people that 'rape' should not be used as a 'figure of speech' for an enthusiatic guitarist. Maturity beyond your years? Please show it.

thank fuck we poor, hapless teenies have all you well-educated adults looking out for us.
Thank fuck for that too.

Anonymous said...

Rape is a word for sexual assult and should remain that way.
I could not have said it better myself, Lea. Not only is it rude and ignorant to use the word "rape" in that sense, it is also highly insulting to those who actually have been raped.
But it's okay to say things like that, because MSI use offensive and inappropriate lyrics all the time.
After all, when in Rome...

Anonymous said...

If you're referring to how trolls are normally dealt with on the internet, the answer is yes.

And you, my dear, are a troll.


What can I say - caught with my pants down, as it were. Shame on me.

Baby, I'm 23 and bored at work. How I fucking wish I was on my summer holidays again. Instead I'm in an office sweating my ass off trying to convince people that 'rape' should not be used as a 'figure of speech' for an enthusiatic guitarist. Maturity beyond your years? Please show it.

The condescending terms of endearment never get old. Really. Great way to hammer home your point. And yes, summer holidays would be nice. Boo on work and summer classes.

To be quite honest, attempting to match the exceedingly high standard of maturity here doesn't seem like it would be worth the effort. Posters making reasonable comments challenging the predominant point of view here have been treated just as condescendingly as I have perhaps deserved, so really, what's the point in trying? As someone pointed out earlier (albeit sarcastically) the internet is not, in fact, Serious Business - try not to get your panties in such a twist from a little anonymous sporking.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Laurel said...

I'm sure he was thrilled shitless to be playing something that sounded more like they used to when they started out.

...because it's not like he wrote his own parts on TBP. right.

anyway, that's just an assumption that fits the beloved theme here that mcr's falling apart because of Gerard, lol. they're clearly enjoying themselves here and loving the new material. that they somehow managed to still write new stuff while on that endless touring cycle is pretty compelling proof that they're not abandoning ship just yet.

July 28, 2008 4:19 AM


None of that footage is recent. So I don't think you can say either way what will happen to the band in the future. Also having two new songs does not mean a new CD. For all we know they were left overs from older cds. Right now with the way the band seems I won't believe they are coming back until I see a new cd and tour.

They might be enjoying it more because o the setting.




he's prone to roll around onstage raping his guitar,



I think you mean having sex with his guitar. I know that there is all that fanfic out there with the people in the band raping each other fans but rape is not something that you want to have happen to anyone. It can destroy a persons life.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

To be quite honest, attempting to match the exceedingly high standard of maturity here doesn't seem like it would be worth the effort. Posters making reasonable comments challenging the predominant point of view here have been treated just as condescendingly as I have perhaps deserved, so really, what's the point in trying? As someone pointed out earlier (albeit sarcastically) the Internet is not, in fact, Serious Business - try not to get your panties in such a twist from a little anonymous sporking.





Than why are you here? You come on and you word things as if you have had no life experience. Than you get made when people call you on it.


You want to be treated like an adult than act like one.

Anonymous said...

Than why are you here? You come on and you word things as if you have had no life experience. Than you get made when people call you on it.


You want to be treated like an adult than act like one.


I'm here because I'm bored and have some free time on my hands. I don't think anyone can really argue that time posting here is time productively spent.

I'm not sure where exactly I worded things 'as if I had no life experience' but I'll take your word for it. And I'm not 'mad' when people call me on it - I have no expectations of being treated like an adult here if I'm not following along with the rest of the herd. It seems that many of you think it's impossible for anyone to disagree with their opinions about Gerard unless they're a delusional, infatuated teenager. I'm not going to waste my time trying to get people to 'treat me like an adult' when I have no reasonable expectation of them doing so.

Anonymous said...

The condescending terms of endearment never get old.
When you're British, "baby", "sweetie" and "darling"are ment to be condesending. They're affectionate. Maybe if you picked a name, then I could call you that instead.

To be quite honest, attempting to match the exceedingly high standard of maturity here doesn't seem like it would be worth the effort. Posters making reasonable comments challenging the predominant point of view here have been treated just as condescendingly as I have perhaps deserved, so really, what's the point in trying? As someone pointed out earlier (albeit sarcastically) the internet is not, in fact, Serious Business - try not to get your panties in such a twist from a little anonymous sporking.
See, now that a proper use of vocabulary and meaning. However, I feel I must inform you that your presence never twisted my panties in the slightest.

I could not have said it better myself, Lea. Not only is it rude and ignorant to use the word "rape" in that sense, it is also highly insulting to those who actually have been raped.
Exactly that. Plus how do you rape an object? Surely if you did it would be classed as a masturbatory aid not a rape.

I don't think anyone can really argue that time posting here is time productively spent.
I think that venting frustrations is productive. That's mainly why people come here wheather they agree with VV or not.

I have no expectations of being treated like an adult here if I'm not following along with the rest of the herd.
I think you'll find this place isn't about following the herd, but about how you present yourself and you opinion. No offence, but if you come in insulting people and being hostile then you can't expect NOT to get the same reaction back. I like you. I really do. You're intelligent but you need to not be so aggressive.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I never said that post things here was productive. This is a place for us to vent.


And as far as being treated badly goes what do you expect.We don't come here to get an opposite point of view. Most of us tried that at places like BN and INO and got treated far worst than what you are complaining.



"I'm not going to waste my time trying to get people to 'treat me like an adult' when I have no reasonable expectation of them doing so."



I try to treat everyone here the way I want to be treated. With respect. But if you are going to come on here saying things like the above quote I will treat you like a child.

It shouldn't matter if you don't think you will get treated like an adult or not. What should matter is how you want people to receive what you are saying.


If you feel like it is a waste of your time than don't come here.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

To clear something up;


I am not saying that an opposite view point is not welcome. I am saying that a lot of us have been treated by shit by the fangirls. Because we something wrong with the way GW acts and that we don't bow down before the greatness that is lynz.

As Lea said it is all about the way you come across. Come across like a childish fangirl and you will get a smack down like one.

But that the time to word things better and you won't have that happen to you.

Anonymous said...

Dear 4:15,

Well, at least you had the decency to admit to being a troll who was intentionally trying to get a rise out of the people here. Of course, you didn't do your job terribly well (my panties weren't twisted in the least -- sorry) because your little rant was way too over the top. Here's a little hint. Sarcasm works best when it's slightly more subtle.

Anonymous said...

So are you guys just going to let some troll kill the blog?

Quick! Someone come and rant about what a cokehead Gerard is! He rubbed his nose twice in that interview at ComiCon! And he was twitchy and pale!

Let's talk about Lyn's huge new engagement ring and how Gerard should have given that money to the poor instead. The nerve of that man, buying a diamond for his wife!

And the earthquake in L.A.! It's the sign of the apocalypse! God is punishing Gerard for moving to L.A.! It's not just the end of MCR - it's the end of the world!!

Lol.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Troll didn't kill the place people here have lives.

Anonymous said...

Quick! Someone come and rant about what a cokehead Gerard is! He rubbed his nose twice in that interview at ComiCon! And he was twitchy and pale!
Now you mention it......

Let's talk about Lyn's huge new engagement ring and how Gerard should have given that money to the poor instead. The nerve of that man, buying a diamond for his wife!
Why would anyone be pissed or insulted that he brought her a ring. I know you think we're pathetic but the ring was already mentioned and nobody gave a shit. So, FAIL.

And the earthquake in L.A.! It's the sign of the apocalypse! God is punishing Gerard for moving to L.A.! It's not just the end of MCR - it's the end of the world!!
Again, I don't think anyone really cares. It's not like it a big earthquake. And if it was, people here really aren't dumb enought to think it was apocalyptic for any reason. So, again, fail. People are pissing and shitting about the 'quake on BN - go there.

Anonymous said...

"Lol."

And there you go ruining all the effort you put into that shining example of wit - a true comic genius never laughs at their own jokes!

Oh, and how can it be an "engagement ring" if they're already married? No-one here gives a shit what they do in private, but I suspect you've missed the point of this entire blog anyway.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and how can it be an "engagement ring" if they're already married?
Good point Taylor. Surely, it's just a ring then.

Or maybe, it's The One Ring to rule them all....... Sorry! I couldn't help myself.

Um, I guess I should add, LOL! =P XD

Anonymous said...

It's funny that while this blog has been really quiet and no one had even thought to mention that stuff, one of Gerard's fangirls came in here with her panties in a twist trying to get it started up again. ^_^

Anonymous said...

I was not loling at myself. I was loling at all you lunatics who spend way too much of your time trying to tear down everything Gerard Way and LynZ do. If you hate them so much just stop listening to the music. Stop going on buzznet to look for every little detail of what's going on in their lives and then ranting about it here. Go find some other band to listen to. It's that simple.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

July 29, 2008 7:41 PM said...

I was not loling at myself. I was loling at all you lunatics who spend way too much of your time trying to tear down everything Gerard Way and LynZ do. If you hate them so much just stop listening to the music. Stop going on buzznet to look for every little detail of what's going on in their lives and then ranting about it here. Go find some other band to listen to. It's that simple.

July 30, 2008 4:31 PM
We have stopped both listening and buying their muisc. But that doesn't not mean that we can't vent about what we see happing to this band.


So what don't you take your own advice and go find some other site to troll IF YOU DON"T LIKE WHAT WE ARE SAYING

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Shit that should be music.

Anonymous said...

I was not loling at myself. I was loling at all you lunatics who spend way too much of your time trying to tear down everything Gerard Way and LynZ do.

Well, geez, fuck me to china. I'm sorry I wasn't able to read and interpret all the inflection you put into that 'lol'.

If you hate them so much just stop listening to the music.

I have.

Stop going on buzznet to look for every little detail of what's going on in their lives and then ranting about it here.

I never go on buzznet.


Personally this is how I feel:

I'll be honest, I really do want to walk away and just let all of this go, but I can't. I don't know why I can't, but my heart just will not let me give up on GW or the band. It's crazy because when I've been disappointed or let down before by other bands (some that I've liked for more than a decade) I just vent my anger for a little bit, toss and or pack away the albums and then just move on. But MCR seems to have a very strong hold on me that I can't explain. Sometimes I wish that I had never heard of them. The rest of the time I just wish that GW would get his head out of his ass and look at what his actions are doing; to himself, his band and the fans.

Anonymous said...

"If you hate them so much just stop listening to the music."

Duh, we (mostly) still like the music, we just don't like how G&L have hijacked that to publicise their own little soap opera, in much the same way that I still love Top Gun, but it doesn't make me think Tom Cruise is any less of a twat.

Oh, and if you've paid attention you'd realise that we don't hate THEM per se, we merely disapprove of some of their more idiotic behaviour.

Anonymous said...

Hanson sucks ass!


The Jonas Brothers kick ass!

Anonymous said...

Hanson and The Jonas Brothers both suck!

Anonymous said...

Who the fuck are the Jonas Brothers?

Anonymous said...

Hey, have you seen us now? - we're all grown up and looking pretty damn hot these days....




..and at least you could tell the difference between us!

Anonymous said...

*sighs and sadly remembers the Bullets Days*

It's pretty damn sad when Hanson and the Jonas Brothers are talked about on a blog related to MCR.

RIP to MCR's punk rock cred. :(

Anonymous said...

RIP to MCR's punk rock cred.

Psshh. MCR lost what little punk rock cred they had a long time ago...TBP was the final nail in the coffin.

If Gerard thinks he's going to get it back by hanging around with Jimmy Urine and company, he's sadly mistaken.

Anonymous said...

*whispers* I miss you

Anonymous said...

Thanks Verita for helping me to exorcise my demons concerning this band and the events of the past year.

I have come here to rant when no one else would listen to me, when everyone else thought I was taking things too seriously and should just 'let it drop' or 'stop thinking about it.' Thing is, that's easier said than done, particularly since the band meant so much to me at one time.

Now all that is gone. Having found an outlet and other people who share similar views I find I'm able to let MCR go now. I didn't buy TBPID, I haven't been onto the fansites in a couple of months and I have no idea what's going on with Gerard and company at this point and I have to say I'm much happier because of it.

So once again, thank you. There are lots of disgruntled fans out there and what you are doing is a huge help.

Anonymous said...

Hello VV, I was just wondering...
When are you going to write another blog again, I would love to see more of your views on this or anything else really. I like the way you express yourself in writing but anyway (enough with sounding like a stalker, LOL).

I just want to say thank you again for writing these blogs that simply expose the truth. I feel much better that LOTS of people feel the same way I do. Seriously, you don't even know how good it feels. Take care guys. :)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
From the band in general:

No thanks to the fans, no thanks to Brian and worst of all, no thanks to Matt Cortez.

From Gerard specifically:

No thanks to anyone at all except for his "best friend" and oh, yeah, his mom and dad as an afterthought.

What about Mikey? What about his bandmates and Brian, you know, the guys who saved his fucking life? What the fuck about his dearly departed Grandma? Or was that all just a bunch of bullshit as well?

You know, I'd be willing to bet that these guys can stand each other anymore. They probably haven't spoken once since the end of the tour and the last thing on any of their minds is to get back together and make a new record.

Well good riddance, I say.

Goodbye, My Chem. Hello, Leathermouth!


You are completly right, can you even imagine these 5 guys in a recording stuido together trying to make music with Gerard's over powering ego? I mean seriously, if they even sit down to actually do this (I don't even know why? I don't even think they care about the fans anymore). It's going to be so goddamn hard, these guys aren't on the same page and of course Gerard has a new mentality about music and life which isn't a good one either, not after getting married with lyn-z then bringing msi on tour and becoming best friends with them, he's looking to do EXACTLY what msi does, and i'll be damned if the band actually stands for his bullshit ideals. it's beyond me.

i honestly think that they should publicly come out and say, "This cannot be done! Sorry!"

now really, that won't be enough for the disheartened fans, but i think that the real ones, (meaning most of us that have a brain and can think for ourseleves) will figure that it was bound to happen, that's how i feel at least.

i am fed up with crap, seriously, GW has no excuse for acting how he does, he thinks the world is his playground and it's not.

i used to have love for this band. i used have love for GW.

now all that is left are memories and their music, (meaning bullets, three cheers, the black parade) and what they used to stand for.

i've pretty much lost all respect for them, until of course they make a 360 turn to the better, because enough IS ENOUGH!

& it's a shame, i honestly believe that GW is a beautiful person inside and out and that's what i think he brought to the plate when this started and that is what we all fell for.

R.I.P My Chemical Romance.

P.S. I feel like shit for putting some much faith in this band, but that's life, you live and you learn and maybe GW can take that example and actually LEARN AND NOT DO THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN! That is, if he decides to get out of the hell hole he has submersed himself in and be led blindly by people that frankly don't care about him.

Someone, something needs to put sense back into his life, because really, it's not even about the fans anymore, i honestly believe that he needs to find some internal healing, as corny as it sounds.

Anonymous said...

I have only two things to say;

If he needed to do a 360 degree turn to impress his wife or her friends, it shows he is still battling self esteem issues. The ego only provides the stubbornness and the need to do things his way.

He can keep on telling everyone how much he loves her. He can dedicate everything he conceives to her. If anything it proves the reverse. If he repeats it enough times he can convince himself and others of it.

Anonymous said...

A friend of mine linked me here and after I read all the comments I couldn't stop crying because they made me realize something I've been in denial about. MCR is really over. The Gerard I fell in love with is gone. I know in my heart they will never be the same. I don't think they'll make another record and even if they do it won't be the same band because the chemistry they used to have is gone. Gerard threw his bandmates over for his wife's friends and the fast life in LA. Fuck him and fuck MSI because they killed the band that gave me hope and something to believe in.

Anonymous said...

^I know how you feel, I was in denial too. But don't get to disheartened, at the end of the day even if GW didn't really stand for all the ideals he said he did, you can still believe in those things and they are good things to believe in. (Unlike a person the ideals will never turn around and say "oh just kidding")

Anonymous said...

The 23 most annoying frontmen in rock!

23. Gerard Way of My Chemical Romance

When My Chemical Romance was just another vaguely gothy emo band from New Jersey with song titles like “Honey, This Mirror Isn’t Big Enough for the Two of Us,” lead singer Gerard Way was no more or less annoying than any other nasally punk-pop screamer. Then he dyed his hair blond and started doing a really bad Freddie Mercury impersonation on MCR’s last album, “The Black Parade.” He finally wised up and lost the bleach, but not the bombast. Three cheers for sweet pretension!

Credit:Kevin Mazur/WireImage.com

Anonymous said...

^ Ouch!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

VV are you around. If you are did you just delete two comments?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

never mind I think blogger is messing with me

Anonymous said...

It kills me how people keep trying to make excuses for Gerard's behavior. They blame Lindsey, Eliza, poor self-esteem - anything but Gerard.

I was in Detroit when Frank and Gerard fought. It was horrible. I've tried so hard to forget and to find ways to justify what happened. I've read the comments where other people have said they were just having a spat like friends are bound to do occasionally. Others have said that Frank forgives him so the fans should do the same, but I just can't.

I think I could handle the fight if it had not been for the diva fit Gerard threw afterwards. When he kicked over Frank's setup and threw the water bottle at him it just felt to me like it was the worst kind of insult - like Gerard was devaluing Frank's position and contribution to the band. The look of hurt and confusion on Frank's face led me to believe that Frank felt the same way. I just don't think things can ever be the same after that and no matter how brave a front Frank puts up, I don't think he forgives him either.

I went to two shows on the last tour and even though Gerard seemed to be on his best behavior, something was definitely missing. The unity, the comradery, the "us agaisnt the world" and "we're part of a gang" mentality Gerard used to talk about in interviews was gone. People can deny it all they want to but things just weren't the same and I don't think they ever will be again.

Anonymous said...

I think I could handle the fight if it had not been for the diva fit Gerard threw afterwards. When he kicked over Frank's setup and threw the water bottle at him it just felt to me like it was the worst kind of insult - like Gerard was devaluing Frank's position and contribution to the band.

Exactly! You've just put into words what I've been trying to figure out ever since the fight happened.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anonymous said...

It kills me how people keep trying to make excuses for Gerard's behavior. They blame Lindsey, Eliza, poor self-esteem - anything but Gerard.

nobody is making excuses for gw. But you can't help but notice how is new attitude and behavior or similar to jimmy urine and lynz's.

Anonymous said...

I think a lot of people make excuses for Gerard - maybe not so much on here, but all over the place. When he was being rude to fans during his engagement to Eliza, people on lj and bn were blaming her. During PR when he was acting like a fucking lunatic people said it was because of LynZ and MSI's influence.

I'm not saying I don't think agree that MSI has been a bad influence on Gerard, but he is after all responsible for his own actions. He chose to get involved with those people - it's not like they were holding a gun to his head. Yeah, he may be fucked up in the head and the members of MSI might very well be taking advantage of that, but he's letting them do it so he has no one to blame but himself.

Anonymous said...

An anon said,
"I think I could handle the fight if it had not been for the diva fit Gerard threw afterwards. When he kicked over Frank's setup and threw the water bottle at him it just felt to me like it was the worst kind of insult - like Gerard was devaluing Frank's position and contribution to the band. The look of hurt and confusion on Frank's face led me to believe that Frank felt the same way. I just don't think things can ever be the same after that and no matter how brave a front Frank puts up, I don't think he forgives him either.

I went to two shows on the last tour and even though Gerard seemed to be on his best behavior, something was definitely missing. The unity, the comradery, the "us agaisnt the world" and "we're part of a gang" mentality Gerard used to talk about in interviews was gone. People can deny it all they want to but things just weren't the same and I don't think they ever will be again."


August 7, 2008 6:54 AM

You are completly correct! I got the same feeling at the Madison Square Garden show, even though he only showed love for his brother Mikey really. The rest of the guys didn't seem to be in this together, it was more like... It's our last show... Let's just do it to get it over with, I don't think that they were excited enough to actually get to Madison Sqaure Garden, I mean I think that the old MCR would honestly be completly estastic, but only seemed that Gerard was. You could tell in interviews leading up to the show.. Especially one, it was on the channel called FUSE, the show was called, "Steven's Untitles Rock Show" (it's probably online) Gerard basically bragged about Lyn-z coming to the show and his recent married life.. Although, Frank just happened to get married days before the concert! He totally took that question of, "How's married life?" from Frank and Mikey! I mean seriously, let them talk too!

I believe that he was only happy to be there for the wrong reasons, through out most of the show he was looking at this wife! It was an amazing concert, but it just wasn't the same!

I still think Frank is mad at him, honestly I believe that Frank was always able to see right through him... I think these problems that most are noticing now have always bothered Gerard and Frank knew about them.

Gerard completly ruined everything that he had with Frank I think...(probably because of jealousy...)
& because of that I think Gerard ruined the unity of the band.

Maybe the last part sounds outlandish... but it makes sense to me.

Anonymous said...

It seems as though Frank is naturally friendly and popular and accepted by the fanbase and I think Gerard resents that he has to work harder at achieving that.

Although mostly I just don't give a shit anymore!

Anonymous said...

If he needed to do a 360 degree turn to impress his wife or her friends, it shows he is still battling self esteem issues.

So Gerard's come full circle then? Back to his awesome, pre-douchiest guy on the planet ways?

(I think you meant 180).

Anonymous said...

So Gerard's come full circle then? Back to his awesome, pre-douchiest guy on the planet ways?
I fucking wish.

Anonymous said...

A friend of mine linked me here and after I read all the comments I couldn't stop crying because they made me realize something I've been in denial about. MCR is really over. The Gerard I fell in love with is gone. I know in my heart they will never be the same. I don't think they'll make another record and even if they do it won't be the same band because the chemistry they used to have is gone. Gerard threw his bandmates over for his wife's friends and the fast life in LA. Fuck him and fuck MSI because they killed the band that gave me hope and something to believe in.

...I think your main problem is falling in love with someone you don't know.

Anonymous said...

I don't think she ment it that way. You're looking at it to literally.

Anonymous said...

*too

Anonymous said...

If he needed to do a 360 degree turn to impress his wife or her friends, it shows he is still battling self esteem issues.

So Gerard's come full circle then? Back to his awesome, pre-douchiest guy on the planet ways?

(I think you meant 180).


Nope, back at where he started.

Anonymous said...

Nope, back at where he started.

You mean drugs and alcohol? But at least when he was drinking before he was a happy drunk. Not the ass he is now.

Anonymous said...

...I think your main problem is falling in love with someone you don't know.

I think that most of us (fans of the band) "fell in love" to some degree with the image we had of Gerard. That's not to say we were literally in love with the man; contrary to popular belief not all MCR fans are delusional teenies who want to marry him and have his babies. Perhaps we did buy into his sweet, shy, comic-book nerd who respects women act too completely, but hey - he's the one who put that image of himself out there.

At least some of us have realized he's not that guy anymore (if he ever really was).

Anonymous said...

But at least when he was drinking before he was a happy drunk.

According to interviews, not so much. He was miserable to the point of being suicidal, remember?

Anonymous said...

According to interviews, not so much. He was miserable to the point of being suicidal, remember?

He was suicicidal and very depressed but he did say that when he was drunk he was a happy drunk as opposed to being violent or anything else.

i think that is what was meant by that comment.

Anonymous said...

Gerard says lots and lots of things in interviews - most of which contradict each other, which is one of the reasons people don't necessarily believe him when he says he's clean and sober.

Anonymous said...

Gerard says lots and lots of things in interviews - most of which contradict each other, which is one of the reasons people don't necessarily believe him when he says he's clean and sober.
Abso-fucking-lutley!!

Anonymous said...

It seems as though Frank is naturally friendly and popular and accepted by the fanbase and I think Gerard resents that he has to work harder at achieving that.

I don't think Gerard wants to have to work to acheive popularity any more. He thinks adulation should just come to him because in his own mind he's so incredibly AWESOME.

It must feel like a slap in the face that so many fans prefer Frank these days.

Anonymous said...

Whoa. This place is still around? I would of thought you all would have given up and gone on to some other poor bastard who has failed you by now. lulz.

Anonymous said...

Whoa. This place is still around?
Where exactly did you think it would go? Internet heaven?

Anonymous said...

Hmm...

poor bastard who has failed us... yep, that describes GWay perfectly. Only he's not just failing us, he's failing himself and the rest of the band as well.

Anonymous said...

Whoa. This place is still around?
Duh.
I would of thought you all would have given up and gone on to some other poor bastard who has failed you by now. lulz.
I believe what you are looking to say is "would have" or "would've". If you're going to be bitchy, at least do it with good grammar.
And poor bastard is a pretty apt description for what Gerard Way is going to be if his attitude doesn't change.
Gerard hasn't failed us - personally, I couldn't care less anymore. I just hang here to laugh at the stupid things Lyn-Z and him say and do.
But he has failed himself, the band and his family. I mean, if that's how he was raised (to treat people like shit, to belittle people, to be rude and ignorant, etc) remind me not to use the same parenting book as his folks did.

Anonymous said...

And poor bastard is a pretty apt description for what Gerard Way is going to be if his attitude doesn't change.

I no longer hold out any hope for Gerard Way. He hasn't shown any concern for his fans in over a year now. Everything is about him now and I don't think the band will survive.

All of the friends I made in the fandom have long since disappeared and I suppose it is time for me to disappear too. Maybe one day MCR will be a fond memory to me, but somehow I doubt it.

Gerard once said that when things didn't feel right anymore, when the band no longer had anything to say they would end it. I think the time has come. If that time is now, and I think it is, I won't even feel sad. I'll just be relieved.

Anonymous said...

Gerard once said that when things didn't feel right anymore, when the band no longer had anything to say they would end it. I think the time has come.

Gerard also said a while back that MCR still had something to say and they had at least anothre record in them. Until he says otherwise I believe him. MCR will be back to prove all of you haters wrong.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anonymous said...

Gerard once said that when things didn't feel right anymore, when the band no longer had anything to say they would end it. I think the time has come.

Gerard also said a while back that MCR still had something to say and they had at least anothre record in them. Until he says otherwise I believe him. MCR will be back to prove all of you haters wrong.

August 10, 2008 3:00 PM


He also said that they were putting out another video. He even said that he would be directing it.

That never happened. So until I actually see another CD out there. I don't believe anything he says.

Anonymous said...

Until he says otherwise I believe him.

Oh my God. With all the flat out bullshit this man has spewed over the last few years with one contradiction after another, how is it that the fangirls are still bleating on with the same old tired "until Gerard says so..." bit?

At this point I wouldn't believe him if he told me the sky was blue.

Anonymous said...

Until he says otherwise I believe him.
He also said he didn't believe in marriage and that he didn't like animal cruelty, but we all know what happened there.

Anonymous said...

Until he says otherwise I believe him.

They way he changes his mind on things, I really don't think you will have that long to wait.

Anonymous said...

Remember on LOTMS when Gerard made the statement, "I lied a lot"? Somehow I don't think he ever quite outgrew that.

Gerard says lots and lots of things in interviews - most of which contradict each other, which is one of the reasons people don't necessarily believe him when he says he's clean and sober.

QFT.

Anonymous said...

An anon said:

Remember on LOTMS when Gerard made the statement, "I lied a lot"? Somehow I don't think he ever quite outgrew that.

Yeah, personally your completly correct, LOL. It's a shame though, he's still playing his kid games.

Anonymous said...

Why shouldn't everything be about Gerard? Gerard Way is My Chem. He's the creative force behind it and the other guys could be replaced in a heartbeat.

Frank is just a hyperactive midget who doesn't even play the guitar very well. Guitar players are a dime a dozen anyway, and we've already seen how easy it is to replace a drummer. If the other guys don't like how Gerard runs his band then let them leave. He could go solo and people would still buy his records.

Anonymous said...

I disagree; I think Frank is a very precise guitarist and if you really listen to the music--you know, if you get it, understand something about it?--you can hear his unique contribution. Even my amateur ear can hear it.

As far as Gerard being the creative force, I doubt it. Lyrically, sure. But I'm fairly certain he can't write music and needs people like Frank and Ray who actually can, to, you know. Make music.

Though I agree that any solo endeavor of his would sell well. And that's what it's about after all, right?

Anonymous said...

'He could go solo and people would still buy his records.'

Not with him losing his looks at the rate he is!

Anonymous said...

He looked like shit at ComicCon - too much drugs making him look like a wrinkley old man.

Plus, it he ever goes solo I don't think anyone would care. All the real fans have left and the teenies will have moved on to the next hot thing. The boy's doomed I tell you.

Yes, boy not man. There's nothing mature about his actions that suggest a man-like quality.

Anonymous said...

People have said it before, but I'll say it again: Frank is the heart and soul of MCR. Without him I doubt they could even make it through the process of recording another record. Frank is the only band member who still makes any real effort with fans and his popularity has increased over the past year while Gerard's has plummeted and it isn't because fans are jealous of Lindsey. Frank got married, too, but that only seemed to make the fans love him even more.

Gerard's fangirls are growing up and the new teenies are in love with the Jonas Brothers who are half his age. He's going to go the way of other washed up, over-the-hill teen idols. Lucky for him he has his comic book and his amaaayzing wife to fall back on.

Anonymous said...

'Frank is just a hyperactive midget'

Yeah, why not spice up your comment with a perjorative term, even if it does make it harder to maintain the high ground?! I believe both "dwarf" and "little person" are preferred these days, although in any case Frank would have to shrink a full 6" in order to qualify for either of those names.

Anonymous said...

Frank is just a hyperactive midget who doesn't even play the guitar very well.

Since when did this turn into a Frank vs. Gerard debate, anyway?

If I were you that's the last thing I would want. In case you haven't noticed, everybody loves Frank. Nobody has ever accused him of being a meglomaniacal rockstar and rightly so. He's still the same sweet, humble guy he's always been. Can't say the same for Gerard though.

Anonymous said...

*megalomaniacal^ Sorry. My, but that's a hard word to spell. :P

Anonymous said...

Nobody has ever accused him of being a meglomaniacal rockstar and rightly so. He's still the same sweet, humble guy he's always been. Can't say the same for Gerard though.
Gerard wants to be Billy Corgan soooo hard.

Anonymous said...

He's going to go the way of other washed up, over-the-hill teen idols.

Haha. Can you imagine him doing a cheesy show in Las Vegas like David Cassidy or trying to star on Broadway like Donnie Osmond?

DNW

Anonymous said...

I hope Gerard is saving his money. I watched some VH1 thing about David Cassidy not too long ago and he said at one point after his career fell apart and his wife left him he was penniless and forced to sleep on a friend's couch. Poor guy.

Anonymous said...

I doubt that he is, considering the large rock on LynZ's finger, the house in LA and that $1500 bag she was toting around Comic Con.

Anonymous said...

$1500 bag
Well, that was money spent wisely. Kind of like the monkey rental.

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, I forgot the monkey rental.

Anonymous said...

I wish I could forget about monkey rental, but being the veggie, animal lover I am, it's a little hard.

Anonymous said...

"considering the large rock on LynZ's finger"

Oh, come on - I expect she bought that herself. After all she is a modern, independent woman who makes her own money, off her own back, and would never sink to flashing a misogynistic symbol of male ownership!

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