If this post seems like it's all over the place I'm sorry. It is kind of pieced together from various different emails and buzznet messages I got.
Apparently LynZ is not happy with the attention she's getting from being Gerard's wife.
"It's f---ed up and totally offensive that my name has totally disappeared and I am now referred to as 'Mrs. Gerard Way,' " Lyn-Z – who married Way on September 3, 2007, following the final date of the Projkect Revolution tour – told Kerrang! It's f---ed up that little kids want to come to my show to see Gerard standing at the side of the stage. And I don't want to have anything to do with it."
ORLY? Then why did she and Gerard tour together and push their relationship on the public for months, if this was going to be such a problem. You can't believe that they didn't expect it. I will once again quote a friend of mine with permission,
But surely if she meant any of that, no one would have chosen to to the MSI/MCR tour--why go as an opening act if you don't want to be associated?--and definitely would not have used her body as a billboard for the fact that she was married to the singer of a hugely popular band? And if it's true that Gerard feels the same way, then he would not have chosen MSI to support MCR, he would not have spent an entire, what, nine months? talking them up, would not drop his marriage into every interview, and definitely there would not have been a summer of: sharpie references, product placement (the underwear,) showing off of hickies, onstage shout-outs, interviews about how MSI supported them from the beginning and the rest of that whole thing?
Actually, MCR has become product placement for MSI so this whole thing seems very insincere.
It makes me a little mad that I was late getting to this and other people already answered it better than I could answer it. ;)
LynZ said,
"One of the biggest reasons that I do what I do, is for other women and for other girls,
Wait, seriously? With lyrics like,
"5 Year Old Pantyshot
I Can See Between Her Legs
5 Year Old Pantyshot
5 Year Old Mother Fuckin Pantyshot Cant Complain
I Didnt Even Touch Her So I Cant Be Blamed
5 Year Old
Pantyshot In My Brain
My Life Has Meaning When She Spreads Her Legs"
and
"Back off you little shits
Gnawing at my fists
I see they breed you by the boatload
Back off you little whores
Get 'em on all fours"
Those aren't even just a fraction of the sexist, misogynist things they write in their songs and all of a sudden Lyn Z is saying that this is for women and other girls? Also, even after she admitted that she doesn't even bother to play her instrument, she just does backbends and dances, and that is for women and other girls? Just who is she trying to fool?
then suddenly, when I got married, that was taken away from me. I'm suddenly 'wife of blah blah blah.' I think it sends such a bad message to girls because it wipes out all the hard work that I did.
What hard work? She admitted herself that she can't play the bass and doesn't want to learn to improve. She admitted herself that her main talent was doing backbends.
And if she's so concerned about the messages she's sending to little girls, why is she in Mindless Self Indulgence with lyrics like
Every single one of you goddamn bitches ain't never gonna give me no love
I'm telling you every single one of you goddamn bitches ain't never gonna give me no love
Every little thing you do - rock my
Every little thing you do - fucking hole
Little teenage bitch
He [Way] doesn't want that for me either. The questions are neverending, and it's disgusting."
Then why the sharpie messages and the over the top public propaganda of their entire relationship? He pushed their relationship on the audience more than she even did, it was probably his decision to take them on tour, he wore their merchandise and made sure everyone knew it, he talked about MSI in interviews, he made up lies about how they "supported MCR from the beginning", he spent months talking about his wife and her band.
They must think their fans are so stupid. The sad thing is that many of the fans who can't htink for themselves are going to not even think about this.
Then later in Rock Sound she said,
To become "wife of" is without a doubt the most fucking heartbreaking thing that could ever happen. You can work your asses off for 10 years, and you can be amazing,
I hope she's not saying that she's amazing because in the last few interviews she admitted that she sucked and she was fine with that.
but at the end of the day you simply will be who you are married to. Is this nineteen fucking fifty three?
Whose fault is that? And if MSI is so upset that they are getting known for their association with MCR (yeah sure, we definitely believe that)! then why is Steve Righ? wearing a Mikey Fuckin Way t shirt to top it all off?
Role: inspirational bassist and visual artist
"Inspirational" now means "I can't be bothered to learn how to play"?
Now months ago I did
a post about Gerard just wanting to fit in with his new "hardcore" friends and that's why he was acting like such a douche on stage. I said that even before he did the "I want all the females to moan for me" act that he did. Some ex fans thought that Gerard was trying to be like Jimmy Urine. I thought so too but many didn't believe me.
Yet here is Jimmy Urine making the crowd moan for him two years ago.
And again.
and again. (Notice the description of, "Jimmy Urine gets the 99% 13 year old audience laid by doing an interactive sex exercise at the Pheonix on July 23, 2006.")
I guess I don't have to say anything more about that.
With that I leave you some of the lyrics of the "inspirational" Mindless Self Indulgence,
"Now tell me the truth. Be honest with me. Be honest with me. Do I look gay in
this outfit? Ok, fff. Thank God. I thought I looked like a faggot."
"This goes out to all my whores
This one goes out to my whores
Niggers and negros"
"I Suffer Again Because Me Want To Fuck And Touch
And Fuck And Touch The Children
Me Fucked For Life
Me Grow Old And Then They Dont Want Me But I Still Want Them
Dey Want Me Fucked Cuz I Be Da Monstar Getting Down In My Evil Ways "
Thank god they are out there doing this for women and little girls!
Sorry LynZ and Gerard, but you brought this on yourselves and if you say that you didn't expect this, then either you are completley stupid, and you are lying and you think that all the fans are completely stupid.
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Fuck this shit. Do you think he wrote that specifically to piss people off? No-one's done more to damage MyChem than that one woman and her idiotic husband. Or is "best friend" code for "beard"?
From the band in general:
No thanks to the fans, no thanks to Brian and worst of all, no thanks to Matt Cortez.
From Gerard specifically:
No thanks to anyone at all except for his "best friend" and oh, yeah, his mom and dad as an afterthought.
What about Mikey? What about his bandmates and Brian, you know, the guys who saved his fucking life? What the fuck about his dearly departed Grandma? Or was that all just a bunch of bullshit as well?
You know, I'd be willing to bet that these guys can stand each other anymore. They probably haven't spoken once since the end of the tour and the last thing on any of their minds is to get back together and make a new record.
Well good riddance, I say.
Goodbye, My Chem. Hello, Leathermouth!
^can't stand is what I meant to say.
I'll bet they can't stand each other.
no thanks to Brian
That just seems really weird to me although when you think about it after the year he's had with Gerard's antics, maybe Brian is ready to kick MCR to the curb.
kimmy said...
Yeah, MCR is so fucking full of shit now I just can't deal with it anymore.
Just go to the Kerrang! website and read the epic response that some "insider" made to my comment about how MCR never made mention of MSI before September 2007.
I read your response to that jerk, Kimmy and you kicked so much ass. <3
'I'll bet they can't stand each other.'
There was a fan who reported after the MSG gig that she overheard Frank saying that he 'couldn't take any more of Gerard's shit'. I dismissed it at the time but Frank IS an outspoken, honest guy and now I'm not so sure. Then there were the countless reports that Frank was the only member who ever came out to meet the fans on the last low-key tour and there was the fan who spotted them at the airport in NZ and said that Frank kept his distance from the others. If they do make a new album I don't think he'll still be in the band, in which case what's the point - Gerard may be the spine of MCR and Ray, Bob and Mikey the limbs, but what's a body without a heart and soul?
I can understand Gerard leaving out Brian, Matt, Bob, Frank, Ray, the fans and his grandparents, but leaving Mikey out was unforgivable. It's hard to believe that he wouldn't have been hurt by that. As much as I dislike LynZ I would love to see her walk and take half so he has to crawl back to all the people he's fucked over in the last year and maybe understand the pain he's causing.
I went to Rolling stone.com to look up msi all I found was one CD review. So that jerk over at Kerrang really doesn't know what he is talking about. If msi were mention before in that magazine it must have been so small it wasn't worth putting it up.
I just check spin.com as well. Most of the things I could find mentioning msi were because of PR. Everything else was someone saying their name.
So as far as I can tell before PR and gw msi were nobodies.
I've been quietly following the comments on this blog for some time now, and I agree with a lot of the points that have been made here.
However, I still ran out and bought The Black Parade Is Dead today.
Am I a slave to marketing?
Yes.
Am I a sucker for all things MCR?
Absolutely.
I can't help it. I love these boys. Despite everything I've seen, the offensive behavior, the bad attitudes, the internal conflicts, I still love their music, and I still love the grand presentation. When I saw The Black Parade over a year ago, I thought it was a really amazing performance, and this DVD brings back all the memories I have from that show. So I guess I bought it for the sake of nostalgia.
Now when I watch it, I'll just have to try and block out everything that's happened since the last U.S. Black Parade show, i.e. all of Projekt Revolution and everything since then. Because when I think about that, it does make me angry, and it does make me want to give up on the band.
It's all so disappointing, isn't it?
Anyway... there's no real point to this post. I just wanted to share my thoughts.
I went to Rolling stone.com to look up msi all I found was one CD review. So that jerk over at Kerrang really doesn't know what he is talking about.
Yeah, that person was just throwing around a lot of bullshit, trying to act like he/she had all this info that we poor ignorant MSI detractors didn't know.
Thing is, all the proof you need to refute his b.s. is right here, at MSI's own press page.
They've only appeared in Rolling Stone twice and certainly nothing of any consequence. In March 2000, one of their albums got a review (3 out of 5 stars, lol) and in September 2007 (!) there's a picture of Lyn-Z doing a ... wait for it ... BACKBEND! ... in their coverage of Projekt Revolution.
As you can see, that person was also lying about Spin, AP and Revolver as well.
Oh, but the thing I found the most hilarious was this:
"What we, as early fans of both bands did know was that MSI & MCR had been friends for many years and they had a mutual respect for each other even though they both would make fun of each other just for fun."
Yeah, right, dude. I'm sure after he finished writing that he went off and had brunch with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
I'll bet they can't stand each other.
I just bet that none of them can stand Gerard.
I bet Mikey was holding on, but "Feel the BURN, bitch! You're nothing to me, NOTHING!!"
I can't see Ray or Bob caring all that much besides worrying about the effect on their royalty cheques. They are, after all, real musicians who won't let their personal lives encroach on their profession.
)Warner has been going around shutting down any and all evidence of monkeygate so as to prevent the general public (and PETA) from finding out about it.
2)Warner got Buzznet to hire Anna, the woman who used to maintain TIP so they could shut down the media site so people could not have quick access to past articles where Gerard has contradicted himself. TIP has been down forever, btw.
If that's true, they aren't trying hard enough. I know where all the monkey pics are. I guy who blogged has deleted the mention of it and that's about it.
"I can't help it. I love these boys. Despite everything I've seen, the offensive behavior, the bad attitudes, the internal conflicts, I still love their music, and I still love the grand presentation."
This is exactly why he's allowed to behave as he does - to show complete contempt for every fan who dared believe that a rock band could ever be different from all the other drinking, drugging, sexist jerks. But I'm feeding the monster too - I bought the DVD (but felt pretty hollow doing so) because I still have faith in those 4 guys at the side and back of the stage, and maybe because I'm resigned to the fact that a rockstar will tell whichever bullshit lies he needs to sell records.
MCR are a little bit richer this afternoon and I'm a mug.
well, gerard need look no further than some of the comments on this blog for the concept of the new record: selling your soul, your friends and everything you used to believe in to the devil in exchange for fame, success and stupid little fangirls who'll buy up everything you do no matter what.
enjoy your stupid masks and over-dubbed "live" dvds. i'll just be content to hold on to my integrity.
nymous said...
well, Gerard need look no further than some of the comments on this blog for the concept of the new record: selling your soul, your friends and everything you used to believe in to the devil in exchange for fame, success and stupid little fangirls who'll buy up everything you do no matter what.
I have to disagree. He already had the fame and the mindless fangirls. He sold his soul so that he could have a woman who would get down on her knees at the drop of a hat.
The Rise and Fall of Gerard Way: an offering of explanation
This is what I have read and heard to be the opinions of the fans that disagree with Gerard’s current behavior from Projekt Revolution until now.
Projekt Revolution is merely referred to because it is the time period, as far as we as outsiders can see, when changes in Gerard began to occur. These changes can be summarized into three categories:
1. Childish behavior – Sharpies (he used to write words on himself, but they were words like “Faggot” and “Creep” where he was obviously trying to make a statement, but at P.R. they were, pretty obviously, ambiguous inside-jokes meant solely for Lyn-z); hickey; Unicorn T-shirt; running around on stage declaring his undying love. Since P.R: constantly referring to Lyn-z in every interview (he said if he could meet anyone alive or dead it would be her)
Now, let me explain. The reason these fans disagree with this behavior is because they believe it is against what he used to stand for. Whereas his private life you to be secretive, the sharpies and hickeys seemed to be childish and the result of something you would expect from a high school romance, a fling, and not the result of a mature, honest love.
They also see his need to mention Lyn-z in every interview as a move of desperation, that he was so quick to marry because of his fear of growing old alone (a common theme in many of his lyrics) because of many recent events such as: his younger brother marrying before him, turning 30, ending an engagement. His admitted insecurities and self-esteem issues, along with this hasty marriage was a sign that he is dependent and needs to constantly be in a serious relationship to verify his self-worth.
The reason fans point this out is not to humiliate or poke fun at him, but because they think it is unhealthy for him, and being someone they used to look up to, were worried.
2. 2. Throwing up onstage and fighting with Frank.
This has died more since the event, and I think that is because there hasn’t been any behavior from him since that has elicited the same reaction. But, at the time, there was suspicion that he had gone back onto drugs, and these two events were the main points used as proof. That’s all I will say there because along with being potential slander, that opinion has, for the most part, died.
However, others bring this back to the idea of childishness, which goes with the notion, presented by Gerard himself of “anit-rock n’roll”. Where he used to take pride in keeping himself away from the clichés of the rock industry, these two events could not contradict that more thoroughly. The belief was that, because of his dependency and constant need for affirmation, he began to behave more aggressively in what they believed was an attempt to be more like MSI and to remove himself from his young, female fanbase. During this time My Chemical Romance was also getting criticized by a few bands for being “weird”, a comment which Gerard seemed to be sensitive to. Whether this or his dependency is the cause for the behavior change is not the issue, it was the manner in which he expressed it.
3. 3. Hypocrisy: telling his mainly teenage-girl audience to fake orgasm for him, telling them they will be “faking it” for the rest of their life, saying he doesn’t want to be a hero or save anybody (in old interviews, and even through the Revenge-era you can see him say repeatedly that this is his reasoning for starting the band).
Even though these fans are fully aware that Gerard has always been more or less sexual on stage, it was no longer directed at himself or another band member, but at an audience he knew was mainly pre-teen and teenage girls. This inevitably brought up the idea of sexism because, as Gerard had always said he was “anti-rock n’roll”, his behavior during that time was increasingly becoming a rockstar cliché.
Along with his anti-rockstar message was always his protests against the objectification of women, but many saw the above message to be in stark contrast to the message of “You’re all beautiful…” he used to send out to the female audience. To some, the message came out with underlying bitterness, even viciousness, because they interpreted his message to mean, “You will never feel anything and you will always fake it - that is your destiny as a woman”. And how far from “You’re just gonna lay down and take it” is that?
Now, this was probably the most worrying of all the past behavior because not only was he contradicting himself, but he was doing so with a venomous speech directed at teenage girls. The problem was not so much the fake moaning as it was the reason he gave them to do it. As a man who has the power to feed and influence these kids, it was worrisome that the message he chose to give them was no longer one of self-confidence and freedom, but one of restriction to a self-worth dependent on sexuality.
And that is why they are upset. Not because he changed, but how he changed. Although they are fully aware he is a grown man capable of his own decisions removed from the band, they firmly do NOT believe that they should just accept it if they believe that behavior is a possible danger to any fans. They simply feel cheated because there are so few bands, even fewer male bands, that have ever put out a message that is comforting for women. Maybe, he should consider that THIS is the reason so many of his fans became female, and not because they are vacant, superficial, stupid little girls as the word “teenie” tends to suggest, but because he had managed to give these women something that is not easy to find. Especially for teenaged girls, it can be hard to find someone who will tell you that you ARE worth something, that you DO NOT have to put up with the shit, and can live a life you may have thought was unavailable to you, free. But, he abandoned this role, why or for who doesn’t matter so much as that he did. And yes, it hurt.
Thank you all for reading, I know it was long. Kudos to anyone who didn’ skim.
All my love,
Andy
**Note: I realize I mention a lot of incidents that occurred without the following visual proof. If you request the proof, I will search it down and provide it. But for now, most of the incidents I mention are generally well known among MCR fans and I think most people will know what I am referring to
I agree with many of the fans who are worried about Gerard right now.
It's obvious from his thank you's on the TBPID liner notes that he isn't feeling much kinship with his bandmates these days. Back during PR, so many fans said they weren't worried about him going back on drugs because "the other guys and especially Mikey wouldn't let him" or that "Frank threatened to slap him for taking Nyquil so he won't let him go back to alcohol." Right now it seems like those all important bandmates don't have much pull with him anymore.
Anyway, I agree with the poster above me. It isn't that he's changed, it's how he's changed. It used to make me feel good to think there was a guy out there in his position who respected women, and that makes it even more painful now to see what he's become.
east bound and down said...
This is exactly why he's allowed to behave as he does - to show complete contempt for every fan who dared believe that a rock band could ever be different from all the other drinking, drugging, sexist jerks. But I'm feeding the monster too - I bought the DVD (but felt pretty hollow doing so) because I still have faith in those 4 guys at the side and back of the stage, and maybe because I'm resigned to the fact that a rockstar will tell whichever bullshit lies he needs to sell records.
MCR are a little bit richer this afternoon and I'm a mug.
I know what you mean. I hate the behavior, and I think it sucks for the other guys in the band, but that didn't stop me from buying the damn DVD. So yeah, you're right, I am supporting the behavior through my purchase. I really feel conflicted about that.
To the anon that posted andythegirl's journal from buzznet, she made a point to post that on her private account rather than broadcasting it on the public forums. As much as I agree with what she's saying, I don't think it's right that you re-posted it here. Her intention was to keep it private.
Just sayin'.
Incidentally, after I watched both performances on the DVD, I came to realize that all the nostalgic value I thought I was getting by having The Black Parade immortalized on film actually pales significantly in comparison to the much superior small club show in Hoboken NJ. THAT is the MCR I have always loved. Sadly, that had been temporarily obscured for me The Black Parade and Projekt Revolution.
So everything I said about grand presentation? I think I'm eating my words now. :/
Good riddance to The Black Parade.
Small club performance FTW.
To the anon that posted andythegirl's journal from buzznet, she made a point to post that on her private account rather than broadcasting it on the public forums. As much as I agree with what she's saying, I don't think it's right that you re-posted it here. Her intention was to keep it private.
Just sayin'.
It wasn't private go to Buzznet and go to the Gerard way journal section and it is right there out in the open
It wasn't private go to Buzznet and go to the Gerard way journal section and it is right there out in the open
You are correct. I take back what I said.
Seems like I'm doing that a lot today.
So I went to Target today and there was TBPID in the new release section. I looked at it for about ten seconds and then kept right on going and picked up the new release by Alkaline Trio instead.
Sorry Frank, Ray, Bob and Mikey. If I had bought it I wouldn't have been able to watch it anyway. For me, My Chemical Romance is Dead.
Anonymous said...
So I went to Target today and there was TBPID in the new release section. I looked at it for about ten seconds and then kept right on going and picked up the new release by Alkaline Trio instead.
Sorry Frank, Ray, Bob and Mikey. If I had bought it I wouldn't have been able to watch it anyway. For me, My Chemical Romance is Dead.
July 2, 2008 8:19 PM
I saw TBPID at Best Buy I picked it up to look at but out of the corner of my eye I saw something. It was a msi cd. I put TBPID down and walked away.
They're actually selling MSI at Best Buy?
That saddens me.
I saw TBPID at Best Buy I picked it up to look at but out of the corner of my eye I saw something. It was a msi cd. I put TBPID down and walked away.
You didn't vomit first, then walk away?
safe said...
I saw TBPID at Best Buy I picked it up to look at but out of the corner of my eye I saw something. It was a msi cd. I put TBPID down and walked away.
You didn't vomit first, then walk away?
July 2, 2008 11:39 PM
Not for the Cds but when I walked into Borders on saw their faces on the cover of Rocksound I almost did.
For the people who aren't buying TPID, according to this Rolling Stone Review, you aren't really missing much.
Anonymous said...
'So I went to Target today and there was TBPID in the new release section. I looked at it for about ten seconds and then kept right on going and picked up the new release by Alkaline Trio instead.
Sorry Frank, Ray, Bob and Mikey. If I had bought it I wouldn't have been able to watch it anyway. For me, My Chemical Romance is Dead.'
EXACTLY what I felt in my HMV on Monday, except I don't know who The Alkaline Trio are!
Anonymous said...
For the people who aren't buying TPID, according to this Rolling Stone Review, you aren't really missing much.
Thanks for that Anon. Only 2 stars.....so glad I saved my money and cancelled my order.
...... which robs the music of some depth. Frontman Gerard Way's voice sounds a little fatigued, and many of the songs are undone by the vanilla mix, especially on "Welcome To the Black Parade," where Way comes off as way too shouty.
See that? Gerard is the one fucking up. Not the band. I'd say I'm shocked but....
EXACTLY what I felt in my HMV on Monday, except I don't know who The Alkaline Trio are!
Alkaline Trio has been around for a really long time. They opened for MCR on the headlining Revenge tour back in 2005 and are one of the bands that MCR really did do a lot of publicity shots with, talked about in interviews, etc.
It my opinion they're one of the most underrated bands out there today. Check them out. You won't be sorry.
Alkaline Trio!
Alkaline Trio is an awesome band! I saw them with MCR in 05 and fell completely in love with their sound. The lyrics are incredibly dark, yet the music is very upbeat.
They're on the cover of Rocksound this week, btw.
Thank you. I will check them out.
They're [Alkaline Trio] on the cover of Rocksound.
When oh when does that issue hit the newsstands? I'm so sick of seeing MSI on the cover of Rock Sound at my local Borders that last time I was there I didn't even go to the magazine section because of it. :(
Didn't Matt Skiba feel up Gerard a few times on stage? I seem to remember something like that. ^_^
Didn't Matt Skiba feel up Gerard a few times on stage?
He did and Gerard didn't seem to mind at all. ;)
There is a video out there somewhere. I've seen it but didn't save it.
Oh and in case anyone is interested, A3 is streaming the new CD on their website www.alkalinetrio.com.
As far as when the next Rocksound comes out, it can't be soon enough for me either. I did notice at my Barnes & Noble that nobody seems to be buying the one with those cretins (MSI) on the cover. So that's a good thing, right?
I can't believe Gerard didn't even thank Mikey or the rest of his band mates!
I wish I could meet him so I could ask him one simple question.
"Who the hell are you and what did you do with the REAL Gerard?"
I can't believe Gerard didn't even thank Mikey or the rest of his band mates!
I can because that asshole who doesn't care about anyone but himself these days is the REAL Gerard.
I can because that asshole who doesn't care about anyone but himself these days is the REAL Gerard.
What makes you like he's been lieing all this time?
Curious. Not having a go.
I think Gerard took the lyrics of this Jimmy Soul classic far to seriously -
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he marries her then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart
But if you make an ugly woman your wife
you'll be happy for the rest of your life
An ugly woman cooks meals on time
And she'll always give you peace of mind
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
Don't let your friends say you have no taste
Go ahead and marry anyway
Though her face is ugly, her eyes don't match
Take it from me, she's a better catch
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
Say man!
Hey baby!
I saw your wife the other day!
Yeah?
Yeah, an' she's ug-leeee!
Yeah, she's ugly, but she sure can cook, baby!*
Yeah, alright!
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
*I've decided to change this lyric to "Yeah, she's ugly, but she sure can flash her cunt, baby!"
LynZ looks like a transvestite whore!!!!!!
First off, let me say that I am no fan of Lindsey's. I do not approve of her band's lyrics nor do I enjoy watching her flash her crotch onstage. Moreover, I was not happy at all to discover that she thinks she's being a role model for young girls who want to be in a band when she admits to being a shitty musician whose only talent seems to be her ability do backbends while holding a bass.
Having said that, I don't think her looks are relevant here and I think the word 'whore' is disrespectful to women in general. Not to mention, this is the very thing that tends to bring on the "UR JUS JELUZZ!1!" comments.
I completely agree that Gerard is fucking things up and has been for a long time. His relationship with Lindsey probably isn't making things better, but I don't think she's the reason for it. Gerard is a grown man who is responsible for his own actions.
I agree with you 6.44.
I totally agree 6:44. It's not like Lyn-z is forcing Gerard to copycat her band's outlandish behavior. The fucker needs to grow a pair and learn to think for himself.
Bloody Christ are you still on about this?
Newsflash - nobody cares anymore.
Anonymous said...
Bloody Christ are you still on about this?
Newsflash - nobody cares anymore.
July 6, 2008 12:13 PM
Than why are you here? If you don't like what people are saying go back to buzznet where you belong
part of me wants to defend the band and not gerard. if anyone has seen the interview with steven smith on the day of the madison square garden show, gerard kept rambling on about how lyn-z drove all the way from california to new york just to see him perform. as he proceeds to talk about it, frank just smiles like 'Uh-huh' like he really could give a shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVtTxkKp82w&feature=related
basically, the rest of the guys didn't get to say one single word about their married life; gerard took up all the time with details. and his marriage might make him 'happy' but it also makes him act like a cocky bastard.
i'm actually very proud i didn't buy tpid; more money in gerard and lyn-z's pockets, although 50% of me wanted to purchase it because I KNOW that the other guys in the band worked their asses off and stayed pretty much true to themselves for two whole years. Do you guys ever wonder why the entire band doesn't do interviews together anymore? It's either frank and mikey; or gerard alone; or frank mikey and gerard. Does anyone ever care about ray and bob anymore? Seriously, I don't think I've heard Ray and or Bob talk in an interview since tbp came out when they were promoting it. I find that odd. you would think that in the madison square garden interviews, they would ALL discuss it together as a band.
I would love to see Bob and Ray in an interview. But they never really say to much so I guess the interviews don't ask to talk to them.
I don't want to see anymore GW interviews. He only talks about his wife and seems bored the rest of the time.
Frank and Mikey are great together. They don't have to talk about their relationships and they seem to have fun in interviews.
I really feel sorry for the rest of the guys. They can't even give one shout out to the people they love. But than again they don't need to give shout outs to prove they are in love.
that's very true.
their wives/girlfriends already know it and feel it.
you would think that in the madison square garden interviews, they would ALL discuss it together as a band.
Yeah, you'd think, but then Gerard wouldn't let anyone else get a word in edgewise. All that the other guys get to do is sit there holding a microphone and looking uncomfortable while Gerard goes on and on. I'm surprised any of the other guys will agree to do an interview with him anymore.
This interview with Gerard and Mikey in Asia is my personal "favorite". When asked about critics from other bands, Gerard tells the interviewer that Mikey has nothing to say about it, even though Mikey is clearly trying to respond. Gerard totally cuts him off.
Amazing arrogance.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rrnuqkg0NH4
^I was pissed off when I saw that interview. Poor Mikey. If I was him, I'd have waited til Gerard shut up and then reposed with what I was going to say. But Gerard made it a little impossible didn't he?
Amazing arrogance.
Perfectly worded. That should be his new slogan - he could write it on his neck.
Scuzz has started showing Welcome to the Black Parade - Live in Mexico from TBPID.....clearly dubbed over. Gerard doesn't sound that good live and frequently doesn't sing parts of the song but everything is included on this song.
I wonder if Cancer has been dubbed with "Know that I will never marry" because he decided to leave it out when he married Lindsey (ridiculous - just sing the song!) so if it's on here then it supports the dubbed theory. I can see Reprise/Warner wanting all the lyrics sung to improve the quality of the boxset.
Does anyone have a copy?
"What makes you like he's been lieing all this time?
Curious. Not having a go."
IMHO it was the Download Bottling that was the straw that broke the camel's back - after all the trying to send a positive message his band gets trashed by the one group of fans he wanted to impress more than any other, and he probably thought "Why the f*** do I even bother anymore if all I am is a pin-up for teenies" and decided from then on that he was going to hook up with a "dangerous" woman and do whatever he felt like, with the obvious disappointing, then resigned to, then hilarious results! Therefore, the current Gerard is the one behaving as he truly wishes, unrestrained by societal niceties, AKA the "Real Gerard".
When I say "dangerous", obviously I mean "only in Gerard Way's mind"!!
Oh, and I deleted my comment at the top of the page because something about the phraseology irritated me. Rest assured, I still ♥ MC and GW ingratitude still annoys me - you can see where "the wife" got it from!
Interesting points Kass. I suppose if people are letting him get away with it then he's going too keep doing it because now he thinks it's acceptable.
Maybe "the wife" rubbbed off on him.
You know I can definitely see him sticking out his lower lip and pouting whilst he stamps his little feet and exercises his "authority"!
"I don't think taking MSI on tour is a good idea."
"Well I'm not going either then, na-na-na-nah!"
"Maybe you could do the interview with Frank or Mikey?"
"Mmnnooo! I wouldn't have enough spotlight on ME, or enough time to talk about my wife!"
"Maybe hiring a higher primate for entertainment might be seen as a little bit cruel Gerard?"
"You're not the boss of me! I don't care, what Lindsey wants, she's gonna get. Who cares about the stupid monkey's stupid cruelty?!!"
And so on ad infinitum...
Lol. I can see him doing that too.
kass you make me laugh!
didn't some one say re the whole sharpie thing.........he was told to stop......sulked for 2 days.......one last act of defiance (catholic at the EMA's) and then no more!
i can imagine him sulking for 2 days!
No, his defiance was the word "Nope" on his wrist.
Proberly as in -
Resprise/Warner: "Stop drawing on yourself!"
Gerard: "Nope."
He most proberly thought it was cute, clever and rebellious. "Nope."
Brian: "Give me the Sharpie, Gerard."
Gerard: "Mmnnoooo!!!"
*pout*
"You're beginning to look like a complete idiot and I don't wanna see my percentage go down."
"You're, like, so mean! It's my Sharpie, mine!! Lindsay says writing on yourself is totally cool."
"I'm warning you. I'll take the fuse out of the coffee percolator plug in the tourbus."
*stamps feet*
"It's sooooo not fair!! I hate you! I hate you!! I made you Brian and I can destroy you and this stupid band!!!"
"Coffee or Sharpie?"
"F***."
*grudgingly hands over permanent marker*
you guys are funny!
i know he used to sharpie on himself in the old days also but since the public displays at PR i just can't stomach it!
i know some people thought it was kinda sweet i just thought it was childish.
Oh, I remember "C***" & "F****t", but it kinda had a point back then, and it would have been sweet this time if it hadn't been so obviously about getting back at certain people, which is incredibly childish. Plus, call me churlish, but I always thought MCR were about the music, not whether or not their vocalist was getting laid!
Thanks Kass. I laughed and I'm now getting strange looks from one of co-workers.
kass you are churlish!!
lolzz!
'gerard kept rambling on about how lyn-z drove all the way from california to new york just to see him perform.'
she flew from Florida to NY to see him which is 'the nicest thing anyone's ever done for him'. He must have a fucking short memory because Eliza used to do that all the time! not to mention that the other guys put up with all his drunken, drugged up shit and SAVED HIS LIFE twice. I dont like the way hes been behaving but the fact that he's so pussywhipped somehow makes it even worse!!!
see him which is 'the nicest thing anyone's ever done for him'.
If that's the nicest thing anyone's ever done for him, he must have really treated like shit his whole life.
Like you said - Eliza used to do that too. Plus, his mum (not sure about his dad). This guy's full of shit. It was nice of Lindsey thought......to fly all that way to mock his fans. Apparently she took this piss out of them all night and is now bitching about them in interviews. Such a sweet girl, don't you think?
"Apparently she took this piss out of them all night and is now bitching about them in interviews."
Well, I wouldn't know about the former, but seriously - does it really hurt if a 13-year old buys a ticket to an MSI gig in the hope of seeing her idol at the side of the stage, especially when it's not like the tour sold out? Anyone as genuinely "inspirational" as our Linds should see it as a challenge and want to give the performance of a lifetime in order to inspire that 13-year old to walk away and take up an instrument. After all, she does roll around on the floor with her knickers up her crack whilst her vocalist makes underage sex gags, "for women and young girls"!
Much in the same way, one imagines, as some cultures view genital mutilation and forced marriage as being "for women and young girls"...
does it really hurt if a 13-year old buys a ticket to an MSI gig in the hope of seeing her idol at the side of the stage, especially when it's not like the tour sold out?
Maybe she doesn't like MCR fans - which is stange considering she owes her recent career advancement to them.....and the stupidity of Gerard of course.
I bet she doesn't complain about all the extra money she's getting though.
All of you people have way too much time on your hands. Kassiopeia, safe, kimmy, k xx, what is your deal? Do you spend every waking hour thinking about this? Are you upset that Gerard married Lyn instead of you? You're all just a bunch of pathetic fangirls like those losers at Mayo's. I bet you three are the anons on here posting stupid video clips that don't prove shit. And kimmy you think you're smart because you went on Kerrangs message board and insulted MSI. You're probably watching TBPID and crying over Gerard right now.
Get a life.
I bet you three are the anons on here posting stupid video clips that don't prove shit.
I bet we're not.
Do you spend every waking hour thinking about this?
What can I say.....I have a boring job.
You're probably watching TBPID and crying over Gerard right now.
I can happily say that I don't own TBPID. I cancelled my order after Monkeygate.
Get a life.
Do you have a spare one? If so, use it on yourself. You're the one with 'no life' posting here too afterall.
And kimmy you think you're smart because you went on Kerrangs message board and insulted MSI.
Are you smart because you came on here and insulted us? Kimmy was only speaking her mind and she's entitled to. Freedom of speech is the way of the Western world. Deal with it.
Love ya! oxox
Oh, I forgot....
Are you upset that Gerard married Lyn instead of you?
Hun, if I was to fantise about marrying any member of MCR it would be Mikey......but by your reasoning I would be here bitching about Alicia and Mikey's behaviour, right? Have I made such a comment? Nope. It's because everything I've said here, believe it or not, was not fueled by jealousy.
*fantasise
"Get a life."
Wow! I always thought I had one and just visited the blogs when I was bored at work, but thanks to you I've just had an epiphany!
FYI, I don't own TBPID, I'm just not that interested in it anymore; I'd rather have Matt or Brian over Gerard anyday; "fangirls" would, by definition, have to be "fans" and "girls", so that term refers to those clogging up Buzznet with fawning messages; and lastly why would anyone with "a life" care what we do?
Gerard Way and Lindsey Ballato behave in such a way that implies what they want is for the public to discuss their personal life. We are merely doing as requested.
All of you people have way too much time on your hands. Kassiopeia, safe, kimmy, k xx, what is your deal? Do you spend every waking hour thinking about this?
Can't speak for the people you mentioned, but I'm on here coz I like how VV isn't blinded by the bullshit. And I check in here often so I can laugh at people like you.
Gerard and Lyn-Z are grown-ups (or so I'm told) and they can probably defend themselves against the big bad wolf without the help of fangirls.
Are you upset that Gerard married Lyn instead of you? You're all just a bunch of pathetic fangirls like those losers at Mayo's.
Please, for the love of every God out there, don't make me puke into my Cheerios. I wouldn't consider that if he was the last human in the universe. I'd marry a slug before him. Not that there's much difference, though.
And yeah, we're the fangirls. Sure...
And kimmy you think you're smart because you went on Kerrangs message board and insulted MSI. You're probably watching TBPID and crying over Gerard right now.
No, that's you love. You think you're smart coz you can come here and insult us, and you're probably watching TBPIS and crying over how people can say such horrible untrue things about poor Gerard Way, how it must be like facing those high-school bullies all over again for him.
To be honest, we're past caring, we just pity the rest of the band for having to put up with his bullshit. In fact, I'm taking bets right now on the date the band breaks up. I'll give you odds of 20/1 on the unofficial break-up date being the 3rd of September this year.
Get a life.
Define "life"?
Coz, I mean, I'm breathing right now and my heart's beating at a normal rate, so I'm pretty sure that constitutes having a life...
And I'm through with you.
Next fangirl please?
"Fangirls"....well Anon @ 7.04, calling someone a fangirl is labelling someone. MCR are against labels. And you have the nerve to imply we're the bad fans.....tut, tut.
Nah safe, anaon @ 7.04 is just following Gerard's example.
We all know how he likes hypocrisy these days...
*anon
Sorry, I'm making typos all over the place today.
You're right, he does. That's for pointing that out Blink.
Don't worry, the typo fairy visits me frequently too. At least you don't rIte LyK Diz. That's just just stupid and an insult to the English language.
^ See, typo fairy.
LOL Kass you have me laughing my ass off.
Don't you just love how the so called fans who stick up for poor GW can't even be bother to use names. It's as if they are ashamed to have their names associated with him.
Anon @ 7:04, you can't really accuse someone of having no life for posting their opinions on a blog when you're here doing the very same thing.
If you have different ideas about the topic at hand, then please share them and be part of the discussion. But there's really no need to attack people personally.
7:04, if Gerard learned to shut the fuck up about his personal relationships in public, and Lindsey Ballato kept her mouth shut and stopped about like a complete imbecile, then maybe people would stop criticizing them.
my typo meant *acting*
you want US to get a life? GET A CLUE! you're that stupid to think that it's okay for gerard to act like a complete and total jerk. well, i beg to differ; it's NOT okay and i refuse to defend someone who goes around shoving news about his marriage in everyone's faces. if gerard doesn't think he's 'cool' than he would stfu about it already. Also, last year, a girl who went to a meet and greet said that when her friend asked gerard privately for a hug, he basically just smoked and replied with a 'i don't 'DO' hugs." how is that supposed to make a fan feel? ever since then, that girl has a totally different perspective about gerard. it's disgusting and a huge disappointment.
you want US to get a life? GET A CLUE! you're that stupid to think that it's okay for gerard to act like a complete and total jerk. well, i beg to differ; it's NOT okay and i refuse to defend someone who goes around shoving news about his marriage in everyone's faces. if gerard doesn't think he's 'cool' than he would stfu about it already. Also, last year, a girl who went to a meet and greet said that when her friend asked gerard privately for a hug, he basically just smoked and replied with a 'i don't 'DO' hugs." how is that supposed to make a fan feel? ever since then, that girl has a totally different perspective about gerard. it's disgusting and a huge disappointment.
"Get a life."
Is that the best you could come up with 7:04? Well aren't you clever and original?
As for the things I said on Kerrang's website, they weren't insults. I can just recognize a load of bullshit when I see it and I'm not afraid to say so.
You know, not everyone on the planet wants in Gerard Way's pants. I prefer men who are a bit less needy and a lot more stable, thanks.
As for crying over TBPID - not likely, seeing as how I didn't buy it. Like I said in an earlier comment, I'm done with MCR.
you know, i still don't see or get why gerard told anyone who was homophobic/rascist/sexist to get the fuck out and that they're not welcome at a my chem show, yet gerard married the one member in the band that write lyrics with the words 'bitch, faggot, etc'. they obviously condone it and he's obviously contradicting himself in everything he says or does. just brilliant.
i thought gerard was against that bullshit...i honestly don't know what to believe in anymore.
Unfortunatly Melissa, what Gerard says and what Gerard does are tow completely different things.
I remember him saying that MCR would have 2 more singles this year and he was going to direct one of the videos. Never happened.
Mrs. Gerard Way in Kerrang! again this week.
^ That's disappointing. :/
kerrang is nothing but a teenie magazine. who are they going to put in it next, the jonas brothers?
Hey, At least the Jonas Brothers can play their instruments and didn't suck dick to get where they are!!
I'm not surprised that they put Mrs. Gerard Way's skank-ass in the magazine again; I'm also not surprised Lyn-Z didn't choose all MyChem songs in her "Songs that changed my life" although it would have been totally accurate. Denial seems to be her watchword these days!
Hey, At least the Jonas Brothers can play their instruments and didn't suck dick to get where they are!!
Wow Diane! Harsh but true.
"Songs that changed my life"
Lol. They should have made that Songs that saved my life so they could even further promote her association with MCR.
Yeah. Kerrang! is a joke. IMO, MCR is quickly becoming one as well, thanks to Mr. and Mrs. Gerard Way.
I was hoping she'd go for irony with a choice of MCR song and a Krusty the Klown quote - "Lets just say it moved me......INTO A BIGGER HOUSE!!!"
Then again, given her plaintive "why am I Mrs Gerard Way" whining, she probably wouldn't know irony if it bit her on the arse!
Jimmy Piss also had an interview in K! mag (at the back of course because he's not fucking Gerard). I would like to add that this interview comes with an amazing pic of JU's half naked body. It made me quiver inside....with complete fear and repultion.
Don't all rush out to buy it now.
Do you view the recent rise in interest with any suspision?
Hey, we didn't make a beeline for it, everyone came to us. It's not like we're Aiden or 30STM; we didn't beg for this attention. Being on the front of K! cracks me up. But at the end of the day, we do everything on our own terms. At least we're not boring. Either you really hate us or you love us.
Do you think that the MCR shadow will feel like an albatross?
Nah man, Mr Gerard is a fun guy and I like those dudes. We knew them back in the day before they were huge so we'll always have love and respect for them.
I know I repect people that I refer to as "a fat panda" and a bands I call "Nazi-like." I get the feeling Mr Pissface is lying his ass off.
I don't know why I've continued to come around here for so long when all things MCR just upset me these days.
The band is dead for me and has been since that sad day in August 2007 when Gerard threw Frank to the ground, kicked over his setup and threw a bottle of water at him.
Sure, Gerard had been acting strangely before that: being rude to fans at meet and greets, saying things like, "You want to fuck me? Well, that seat is taken," which seemed uncharacteristic for him. Of course, that was during his engagement to Eliza and fans kept thinking things would change if she was out of the picture. Yeah, they changed all right. They got even worse.
Thing is, people wanted to blame Eliza back then and now they want to blame Lindsey, when the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of one Gerard Arthur Way. I don't know whether he's always been an asshole and just made a good show of covering it up or whether the fame went to his head, but it really doesn't matter at this point.
I think I've been hanging around expecting him to come to his senses and admit that he's been a complete jerk, apologize for it and change. Now I realize just how stupid that was. Hell will probably freeze over first.
So it's goodbye from me. I'm not a fan anymore and I won't be coming around here any longer. I just don't need the disappointment and the heartache that goes with it.
"Lets just say it moved me......INTO A BIGGER HOUSE!!!"
ROFL!!! xD
Kimmy
I am sad to see you go. I really liked reading what you had to say.
Take care
'Thing is, people wanted to blame Eliza back then and now they want to blame Lindsey, when the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of one Gerard Arthur Way.'
True, but I think he goes for women that don't help his cause by encouraging his behaviour for their own ends. What he really needs is the English Supernanny to put him on the naughty step!
good riddence, kimmy. mcr doesn't need fans like you or the rest of your loser friends.
Yes they do. They like all fans, because fans bring in the filthy lucre which greases the wheels of the record industry!
Besides which, if you're such a 'winner' why are you even bothering coming here to call us names? - your obvious superiority to us should be enough to keep you warm and toasty at night without dirtying your typing finger.
Wow. Who knew that being a "true MCR fan" ment being a blind MCR fan with no brain to think for themselves.
If you're a true MCR fan then why are you here? This is a "hate blog" afterall. Isn't there a Gerard Way poster on your wall you should be pretending to makeout with?
I'll miss you Kimmy.
Yeah. Kerrang! is a joke. IMO, MCR is quickly becoming one as well, thanks to Mr. and Mrs. Gerard Way.
Honey, MCR has been a joke for a long time now. No one listens to them but teenies and crazies. Once Gerard loses what little is left of his looks (which won't be long with the lifestyle he's leading) nobody will care at all.
A P.S. to the above ^ comment, before someone asks what am I doing here if I think the band is such a joke...
I'm one of the really old fans who don't give a shit about the band anymore. I just enjoy the "fandom drama."
We should make a club with jackets. We already have a slogan: "The MCR fandom...come for the music, stay for the wank."
You know, after all the damage control the band did during that last tour, it's such a shame that Kerrang and Mrs. Gerard Way have to go and throw a wrench into it.
I bet Brian is livid!
If Brian is smart he's putting his energies into developing another band right now because, honestly, does anybody really think MCR is coming back?
So I was linked this from another site and I immediately signed up (I know I'm a loser for not already having one) so I could comment and say: "Jesus Christ I have been living under a rock!"
Thanks for the eye-opener. I'm with you 100%.
does anybody really think MCR is coming back?
I think they'll be back - but the ablum will die on it's ass because no one will care anymore. Teenie's won't care anymore because MCR and it's members will be "old" and all the older more mature fans who had real faith in the good that this band could have done have left because of the drama and Gerard's actions. So I think they'll be back with false smiles to milk their cash cow, but I don't think they get anywhere near as much money for future albums/singles/merch because everyone will have left.
does anybody really think MCR is coming back?
In all honesty, I don't think they will be back. From watching LOTMS and from listening to the band talk about the making of TBP, I get the sense that MCR is a completely collaborative unit with each member being vital to their creative process. At this point I just don't think they have the solidarity to come together like they have in the past, especially since Gerard has moved to the west coast and seems to be living such a drastically different lifestyle from that of his band mates.
Maybe I'm wrong, but judging from the tone of the liner notes for TBPID, it seems to me that the dynamic of the band has changed too drastically for things to ever be the same again.
honestly, does anybody really think MCR is coming back?
The old MCR, who cared about the fans and were making music to make a difference and to 'save lives' - hell no. Well... maybe if Gerard and Lyn-z stop using their private lives to get more media coverage (and piss off the older fans), but I don't think that's going to happen.
MCR as in the assholes who let Gerard do what he wants, even though now it seems like he's just in it for the cash and a quick fuck? Of course.
...Until the next band with 'hot' members comes along, that is. Then nobody will care anymore, and we can sit back and say "Told you so."
Sad, but true.
We should make a club with jackets. We already have a slogan: "The MCR fandom...come for the music, stay for the wank."
Oh. My. God. I really want that on a jacket now...
"Well... maybe if Gerard and Lyn-z stop using their private lives to get more media coverage (and piss off the older fans), but I don't think that's going to happen."
I'll stick around as long as the hilarity that is Gerard Way clearly thinking Lyn-Z is some kind of trophy wife to boast about continues! As for a new record - I agree with the earlier poster; they'll make one, but without Frank. I won't buy it.
but without Frank.
Which is a shame because Frank really is the heart and provides and upholds the morals of the group, in my humble opinion.
I still love Bob, Ray and Mikey.
^I concur. And it really is still such a huge disappointment for me. (I know right.)
I like Leathermouth and those guys are very talented, but they just aren't my cup of tea, not like MCR used to be.
Ever since TBP things have gone downhill. Whenever GW talked about that album, it was always with an air of 'holier than tho pretentiousness'.
LynZ is just adding fuel to the flames, this fire has been burning for a long time and showing no signs of dying out.
Hi beta-phi and welcome to 'The Hate Blog'.
I'd still prefer to listen to Gerard pontificating about how great TBP was than watch another interview of Mikey or Frank sitting uncomfortably unable to get a word in whilst we're informed about how amazing his life is now the 'ultra-feminist', panty-flashing, hack-bassist is in it. I'm sure she would have married you if you were a busboy, Gerard. you keep telling yourself that!
That interview was so uncomfortable. Gerard just looked and sounded so desperate. he was defo trying too hard to make everything that everything in his life was perfect.
Hey there ya'll!
I'd still prefer to listen to Gerard pontificating about how great TBP was than watch another interview of Mikey or Frank sitting uncomfortably unable to get a word in whilst we're informed about how amazing his life is now the 'ultra-feminist', panty-flashing, hack-bassist is in it. I'm sure she would have married you if you were a busboy, Gerard. you keep telling yourself that!
Well yeah, just saying that if you're perceptive you can see it there. It just got worse and worse as time went on.
Really, when everything comes crashing down around him, maybe, hopefully, he'll be able to see what a mess he made of everything.
He's worse than any other celebrity train wreck.
The interview that really bothers me is the one in Japan when Mikey starts to speak several times, and GW cuts him off and says: "Mikey has nothing to say"(not the exact words, but same meaning)
There was also a point in that interview when GW says, in a very conceited tone, "There's not a lot of western music that's really speaking to me."
Then Mikey, looking pointedly at his brother says,"There's so many amazing bands...There's great stuff everywhere."
Yeah, I can't believe he cut him off like that, especially since the interview asked "What about you, Mikey?".
Mikey NOT Gerard.
'He's worse than any other celebrity train wreck.'
My first thought was 'he's nowhere near as bad as Amy Winehouse or Britney Spears' but at least their fans can see what's going on and almost universally want them to sort their lives out. Britney and Amy aren't supercute guys though, so when they fuck up its Okay to call them on it!
'he's nowhere near as bad as Amy Winehouse or Britney Spears'
Britney's been cleaning up her act lately I think. And her I can feel bad for. Amy Whinehouse...I don't keep up with here. But I don't think either are nearly as hypocritical as GW
*her
No they're not. I guess morals aren't so important when you can finally relive your high school years, this time as the popular kid. Lynz's not my idea of Homecoming Queen though!
There was also a point in that interview when GW says, in a very conceited tone, "There's not a lot of western music that's really speaking to me." Then Mikey, looking pointedly at his brother says,"There's so many amazing bands...There's great stuff everywhere."
Thank God somebody else noticed that! I became rather angry when I watched that interview, especially towards the end when he started saying over and over that MCR was a "great band."
I just remember thinking, "What a conceited prick!" I mean, at the same time he was dissing all the great bands he's toured with in the past and called "friends" (Muse, Taking Back Sunday, Alkaline Trio, to name only a few), he then proceeded to act like his was the only band out there making good music!
I haven't looked at him the same way since.
that video was just edited to make gerard look bad. besides, how did he diss other bands? idgi.
you people will grasp at anything.
Anonymous said...
that video was just edited to make gerard look bad. besides, how did he diss other bands? idgi.
you people will grasp at anything.
July 14, 2008 4:22 PM
Yes that video was edited badly. But I doubt it was to make GW look bad. He has said a lot of those things in other interviews just with lest of an ego.
As for grasping anything people come here to talk about their opinions and feelings on the band. And if you don't like those opinions there are other places you can go to read ones that will be more to your liking.
lest = less
how did he diss other bands? idgi.
Did you read the comment?
"There's not a lot of western music that's really speaking to me."
You have to consider the context. He was talking about music from the western part of the world, i.e. the US and Europe. What, did you think he was talking about country & western or something?
It was an asshole thing to say.
that video was just edited to make gerard look bad.
Yes the video was edited, but there are clear unedited parts where GW is a complete ass to Mikey, and the editing does not change what he is saying.
besides, how did he diss other bands? idgi.
There's probably a lot of things you don't get.
GW is saying that none of the bands he as often referred to as friends matter to him at all, that their music is not as good as MCR, and does not have the influence that MCR has.
I also noticed that Mikey's comments where always the opposite of what GW said
GW: "I don't care that people are illegally downloading our music"
Mikey: "It's a shame that no one goes out and buys the real CD."
Just another nugget of fact that supports the theory that the other band members are just as upset with him as we are.
you people will grasp at anything.
We are merely stating our opinions and backing them with logic and reason.
Gerard is worse than any other celebrity train wreck? That is just plain stupid. This is a man who kicked alcohol and drugs and won't even take painkillers or antidepressents and you are trying to lump him in with the likes of Britney Spears and Courtney Love because he got married to a woman who doesn't fit your idea of a perfect wife. Get real and get over it. He is a grown man and he is responsible for himself and he has accomplished way more than any of you ever will. He doesn't need a bunch of SIFs telling him how to run his life.
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Gerard is worse than any other celebrity train wreck? That is just plain stupid. This is a man who kicked alcohol and drugs and won't even take painkillers or antidepressants and you are trying to lump him in with the likes of Britney Spears and Courtney Love because he got married to a woman who doesn't fit your idea of a perfect wife. Get real and get over it. He is a grown man and he is responsible for himself and he has accomplished way more than any of you ever will. He doesn't need a bunch of SIFs telling him how to run his life.
He didn't stop using. He has a mental illness so he needs medications for it. But he took it upon him self to over medicate and than to just stop taking the medication.
His wife is a whore who is using him for fame and is a junkie and alcoholic. You should stop kissing his ass and wake up to what is really going on.
What's SIF?
That only thing I can think of is stupid, immature fucks. I hope that's not what it stands for.
His wife is a whore who is using him for fame and is a junkie and alcoholic.
Wow! I'm not exactly President of Camp Lindsey but that was tinsy bit harsh, but you said everything so matter-of-factly. Do you know that it's fact?
According to urbandictionary 'sif' means secret internet fatty
That's harsh =/
This is a man who kicked alcohol and drugs and won't even take painkillers or antidepressents
Maybe. Maybe not. I do find it odd that he has chosen to live so far away from his family and bandmates. Having been intimately involved with someone who "kicked" booze and drugs more than once, I know this is a ploy addicts often use to avoid confrontation about their substance abuse.
Gerard is worse than any other celebrity train wreck? That is just plain stupid. This is a man who kicked alcohol and drugs and won't even take painkillers or antidepressents and you are trying to lump him in with the likes of Britney Spears and Courtney Love because he got married to a woman who doesn't fit your idea of a perfect wife.
No it's not stupid, his antics and the fact that he basically betrayed/turned his back on what he said he believed in are what make him worse. In the nine circles of hell treachery is worse than sodomy.
You don't have any proof that he is clean, other than his word, and the word of his PR. It's not about his wife, I don't agree with her views, but other than that I don't care about her.
Get real and get over it.
The whole point of this blog is that this is what's really going on.
He is a grown man and he is responsible for himself
Only he hasn't been acting like a grown man or very responsible of late.
he has accomplished way more than any of you ever will.
I suppose you have a crystal ball to back this statement?
He doesn't need a bunch of SIFs telling him how to run his life.
Because GW comes on here every day to read these blogs. yeah, of course.
We're not telling him how to run his life. We're commiserating.
PS-Petty name calling makes you the lesser person.
We can speculate all we want to about whether or not Gerard is using drugs/drinking again. IMO his behavior is suspicious, but none of us knows for certain.
Quinn Allman did say that he was lying about kicking cocaine. I suppose he could have been lying but I don't know what he would have to gain by lying.
I don't care for Lindsey but I really wish people wouldn't call her a whore. I find that word demeaning and no matter how we feel about her talent or lack thereof, she doesn't deserve to be called that.
Quinn Allman did say that he was lying about kicking cocaine. I suppose he could have been lying but I don't know what he would have to gain by lying.
Sorry, that comment didn't make much sense. What I meant to say is that I don't know what Quinn would have to gain by telling lies about Gerard.
^Agreed on all points, but I could have sworn I saw a picture from his 'wedding' where he was holding a Cavit wine bottle.
And really anyone calling LynZ a whore is no better than the haters who call us names.
I could have sworn I saw a picture from his 'wedding' where he was holding a Cavit wine bottle.
You did, Beta. According to fangirls it's apple cider.
Main Entry:
1whore Listen to the pronunciation of 1whore Listen to the pronunciation of 1whore
Pronunciation:
\ˈhȯr, ˈhu̇r\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English hore, from Old English hōre; akin to Old Norse hōra whore, hōrr adulterer, Latin carus dear — more at charity
Date:
before 12th century
1: a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : prostitute; also : a promiscuous or immoral woman2: a male who engages in sexual acts for money3: a venal or unscrupulous person
If you can come up with a better word to describe her please let me know.
"and you are trying to lump him in with the likes of Britney Spears"
Actually, the man himself said he 'identified' with her!
"I don't care for Lindsey but I really wish people wouldn't call her a whore. I find that word demeaning and no matter how we feel about her talent or lack thereof, she doesn't deserve to be called that."
Thank you! Either she is using him for fame and money - in which case the term would be justified - or she married for love and just appears to be a horrible individual set on riding his coat-tails, because of her inability to express herself intelligently - in which case it wouldn't. Since we don't know which, we should give her the benefit of the doubt.
Taking the piss is absolutely still acceptable though - the pair of them give us so much material it would be a travesty not to!
Actually, the man himself said he 'identified' with her!
Really? That is true funny.
Do you have a link?
It was in Kerrang mag, Beta. I think the only link would be on BN. I have it at home and I'll right it up for you if no one manages to find a link. I'd scan it, but I have no scanner.
'This is a man who kicked alcohol and drugs.'
Who SAYS he did. I guess Saint Gerard is incapable of lying, despite all the 'he's only human' excuses fangirls make for him!
Safe said...
'I wonder if Cancer has been dubbed with "Know that I will never marry" because he decided to leave it out when he married Lindsey (ridiculous - just sing the song!) so if it's on here then it supports the dubbed theory.'
Yes he does sing the whole song and I'd be surprised if a note of his vocals was actually recorded 'live' in Mexico.
Yes he does sing the whole song and I'd be surprised if a note of his vocals was actually recorded 'live' in Mexico.
I've heard he doesn't sing in Hoboken though. My friend said he turned his face away from the microphone and the crowd sang it. I saw the Mexico version of Dead! online - exactly who is singing the "la la" parts because Gerard has his microphone in the air, Frank's lips aren't moving and Ray is in the middle of the stage nowhere near his or anyone elses mircophone stand. It could have been James - but it sounded like Gerard. Hmmmmm.
Who SAYS he did. I guess Saint Gerard is incapable of lying, despite all the 'he's only human' excuses fangirls make for him!
Yep. Especially as he ADMITS that he lies.
The Britney bit for Beta.
Who is the biggest idiot of the year?
A lot of people might say Britney Spears, but she's kind of my hero too! I think that he shaving her head was awesome, that was one of my highlights of the year! I thought she looked great, and I totally got it. I have had a lot of moments where I can identify with her. Sometimes you just wanna shave your head and be covered in your own shit, rumming through the streets, being crazy. You wanna be locked up.
It seems that people who have negative things to say about Gerard have been told by the people who think they have some degree of ownership in the Mayo blog to come here with our "Gerard bashing."
It seems that the "Gerard is God" mentality has infiltrated that place as well. How disappointing. :(
They can't stop you from talking there.
The only one with ownership at Mayo's is Mr Mayonaise himself.
So what you like there. If Mayo is offended by what you say, I'm sure he'll hint at it.
Gerard is worse than any other celebrity train wreck? That is just plain stupid. This is a man who kicked alcohol and drugs and won't even take painkillers or antidepressents
Yup, he is the worst. At least Pete Doherty, Amy Winehouse, Britney Spears, etc are honest with their fans and say "Yeah I'm on drugs/booze/meds" or whatever.
And you know he won't take painkillers because you know him personally, or because he said so in an interview with Kerrang! once?
and you are trying to lump him in with the likes of Britney Spears and Courtney Love because he got married to a woman who doesn't fit your idea of a perfect wife.
No, we're not "lumping him" with people like that. Of course not! That would be an insult to Britney and Courtney who are now making the most of their lives and getting back on track. And it's not because he married Lyn-Z (frankly, he could marry a skunk and go live as a hermit in Alaska for all I care about his private life), it's because he's a liar and a hypocrite. Which Britney and Courtney aren't.
Get real and get over it. He is a grown man and he is responsible for himself
Built a bridge, got over it. To be honest, I pity him, but I'm mostly here for the laughs to see fangirls like you be offended by something you don't even have to look at.
and he has accomplished way more than any of you ever will.
Yes, just keep telling yourself that dearie.
My two-year-old brother has probably accomplished more than Gerard ever will. It's not just his talent that got MCR where they are, what about the rest of the band - or are they uninportant because they aren't fucking a member of some "awesome" band?
He doesn't need a bunch of SIFs telling him how to run his life.
Because that job belongs to a bunch of 12-year-old schoolgirls who "wanna have Gerard's babies", right? After all, they're the sort of fans he really cares about these days...
Oh and one more thing: sticks and stones, love. Just remember that.
It seems that people who have negative things to say about Gerard have been told by the people who think they have some degree of ownership in the Mayo blog to come here with our "Gerard bashing."
I must be out of the loop because I have no idea what you're talking about. What is this "Mayo blog" of which you speak?
A lot of people might say Britney Spears, but she's kind of my hero too!
Dude! What is his obsession with heroes anyway? Is he 14?
Thanks safe!
Sometimes you just wanna shave your head
I wonder if he knows that she did that so they couldn't prove she was on drugs?
Truly amusing.
I wonder if he knows that she did that so they couldn't prove she was on drugs?
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Who is the biggest idiot of the year?
A lot of people might say Britney Spears, but she's kind of my hero too! I think that he shaving her head was awesome, that was one of my highlights of the year! I thought she looked great, and I totally got it. I have had a lot of moments where I can identify with her. Sometimes you just wanna shave your head and be covered in your own shit, rumming through the streets, being crazy. You wanna be locked up.
^ah well.
A) What's all this about renting chimpanzees? This is the first I've heard about it, so if someone could give me a rundown I'd appreciate it. Pics or it didn't happen and etc.
B) As several other people have pointed out, it's a bit ironic that some of you are viciously attacking Lyn-Z and describing her with such derogatory language when you put up such a fuss about the message MSI sends with their lyrics. Go hypocrisy.
C) It's seriously coming as a shock to some of you that Gerard monopolizes interviews? Where have you been for, oh - the past six years or so? The same goes for those of you expressing contempt that Gerard seems so arrogant about MCR's greatness. He has always been very vocal about how unique and special and great he believes MCR is. That he thinks MCR is the best band in the world. I fail to understand how this is surprising to any of you by now.
D) Also, for whoever was asking about the rumors of Anna being hired by Buzznet and etc in some kind of conspiracy to hide MCR's past interviews: The Immortality Project (TIP) has had issues paying their server fees for as long as it's been around. They just recently raised enough funds to get the site up and running again. Check it out:
http://www.theimmortalityproject.com/
E) Some of the dramatics here are quite frankly hilarious. You were so repulsed by an MSI CD that you just happened to see out of the corner of your eye that you couldn't bring yourself to buy TBIPD? Seriously? And oh god, not an MSI Rocksound cover! The horror!
F) Finally and preemptively: no, I have no desire to marry Gerard Way, I do not idolize Lyn-Z or have any particular affection for MSI's music. I've heard more than a few of those same first-hand accounts of Gerard being something less than nice to fans that are so often mentioned here. But the histrionics of some of the posters on this blog are ridiculous - oh, poor Frank and Mikey and Bob and Ray! Trapped and tormented by the all powerful Gerard, powerless to speak for themselves! Understand this: MCR is a band of five adult men, all of whom are more than capable of making independent adult decisions. If any of them were so unhappy with the situation, so distraught over Gerard 'ruining' the band, they're more than capable of telling him to knock it the fuck off or, if worst comes to worst, leaving the band. Save your tears for something that actually matters.
A). According to the blog of a guy who works for one of MSI's support acts, Gerard rented a chimpanzee for Lyn-Z's birthday. The pics of Gerard with said chimp are still available on the Internet; as soon as the news hit the blogs and was not received well - obvious cruelty issues, plus the hypocrisy of previous animal rights interviews - the relevant paragraph of the blog mysteriously disappeared, but not before enough of us saw it, eh Riot/Reprise?!
B). You've clearly missed all the comments politely asking newbies not to use words like "whore", etc... as it devalues any sensible arguments!
C). It's not that Gerard monopolises interviews - we know he's always done that - it's that none of the guys even get a chance to get a word in edgeways anymore. Either you think the band dynamic has changed or you don't - opinions & assholes. Some of us do and I believe they have freedom to express that.
D). Wouldn't have a clue.
E). Some of us were ambivalent about TBPID and a magazine/CD cover reminded us of why we don't really care anymore and who our money would be going to - I don't buy Nestle products anymore because of the way they advertise baby formula in the Third World, even though I always had a fondness for KitKats. I can't speak for anyone else here, but it's surely better to have a overly-hysterical conscience than none at all? Personally, it's that "meh" feeling overwhelming me in the record store that means it's absent from my CD rack...
F). In the "Real World", if someone makes your job so impossible you feel it's untenable then it's called "constructive dismissal", it's illegal and you can take them to an industrial tribunal. In "Band World", you kow-tow to your vocalist or you're out of the job that you love and which funds your lifestyle. Seriously, what's wrong with showing a little sympathy for 4 hard-working guys who are losing respect and royalties because a section of the fanbase believe their singer's turned into a [insert appropriate term of abuse]?
FYI, I've never shed a single tear for this band and I seriously doubt anyone else here has been in floods either! Save your hyperbole for something that actually matters...
Hi noyadedumoineau!
The monkey pics are everywhere - go to Buzznet and look round the time of Linsdey's birthday and you will find a pic of Gerard walking around with the monkey trainer and the monkey.
"Lindsey is a whore" comments - as I said before it's harsh and unnecessary. But, if MSI use that terminology, then why can't people here? I know some won't use it because they feel it's not pro-women and, like you said, hypocritical.
the other 4 members in the band could tell Gerard to fuck off - but at the end of the day, they are all living their dreams out by being in a band. I don't think any of them will fuck that up - do you?
Gerard monopolising interviews - that wasn't the issue. It was that Mikey was asked a question directly and he was obviously about to reply when Gerard cut him off. It was not allowing Mikey to speak when he wanted to that got everyone pissed. If you were in a converstation and that happened to you, I think you'd find it rude. So did people here.
Okay Kass said everything a lot better that I did!
noyadedumoineau said...
A) What's all this about renting chimpanzees? This is the first I've heard about it, so if someone could give me a rundown I'd appreciate it. Pics or it didn't happen and etc.
Have you been living under a rock? Not only did a tech for the band touring with msi talk about it on his blog but a lot of the fan girls went crazy for it. You should be able to find it at BN.
B) As several other people have pointed out, it's a bit ironic that some of you are viciously attacking Lyn-Z and describing her with such derogatory language when you put up such a fuss about the message MSI sends with their lyrics. Go hypocrisy.
I have no respect for a woman any woman who is in a band that sings about women being bitch who should get down on their knees. So when it comes to me I will call here a whore, blowup doll or what every comes to mind. Because she presents herself as one and has no problem making money off of calling all women even ones who are not whores.
C) It's seriously coming as a shock to some of you that Gerard monopolizes interviews? Where have you been for, oh - the past six years or so? The same goes for those of you expressing contempt that Gerard seems so arrogant about MCR's greatness. He has always been very vocal about how unique and special and great he believes MCR is. That he thinks MCR is the best band in the world. I fail to understand how this is surprising to any of you by now.
Not only is it the fact that he cut his own brother off before he could speak because it did look like Mikey had something to say but the fact that he acts like he doesn't even want to be there most of the time. Have you heard the interviews with Frank and Mikey they sound like they are having fun.
D) Also, for whoever was asking about the rumors of Anna being hired by Buzznet and etc in some kind of conspiracy to hide MCR's past interviews: The Immortality Project (TIP) has had issues paying their server fees for as long as it's been around. They just recently raised enough funds to get the site up and running again. Check it out:
http://www.theimmortalityproject.com/
E) Some of the dramatics here are quite frankly hilarious. You were so repulsed by an MSI CD that you just happened to see out of the corner of your eye that you couldn't bring yourself to buy TBIPD? Seriously? And oh god, not an MSI Rocksound cover! The horror!
I have no problem with msi singing about what they want to sing about. I have a problem with them being associated with a band that I thought stood for something more. So when i saw their cd their it reminded me of what MCR has giving up because they are now associated And just to let you know I had no plans on buying that Cd I was just looking.
As for the msi on the cover of a magazine and their cd being in best buy. It sickens me to see a band that has no right to being that store or on any magazine on/in those things because of who one of them is fucking.
F) Finally and preemptively: no, I have no desire to marry Gerard Way, I do not idolize Lyn-Z or have any particular affection for MSI's music. I've heard more than a few of those same first-hand accounts of Gerard being something less than nice to fans that are so often mentioned here. But the histrionics of some of the posters on this blog are ridiculous - oh, poor Frank and Mikey and Bob and Ray! Trapped and tormented by the all powerful Gerard, powerless to speak for themselves! Understand this: MCR is a band of five adult men, all of whom are more than capable of making independent adult decisions. If any of them were so unhappy with the situation, so distraught over Gerard 'ruining' the band, they're more than capable of telling him to knock it the fuck off or, if worst comes to worst, leaving the band. Save your tears for something that actually matters.
It is not because they are traped in the band with GW but because of his acting he is making the whole band look bad. All of them at one point worked very to get where they are. And now that GW has decided to make their shows a stage for his love life it makes them look silly.
July 16, 2008 11:55 PM
I forgot to add that I think it is far more degrading to women when you give respect to women who didn't do anything to deserve it.
Respect is something that is earned by work. Not by making a sex tape ot having sex with someone famous to get your career started.
Respect should not be given to people because they happen to be the same gender as someone who is respectable.
Good points MJ!
I hope none of you mind if I just respond primarily to Martha's comments, as they seem to reflect the general reaction:
Have you been living under a rock? Not only did a tech for the band touring with msi talk about it on his blog but a lot of the fan girls went crazy for it. You should be able to find it at BN.
Apparently? I don't know what tech or band you're talking about, so there's no chance I could have read his blog. And I generally stay as far from Buzznet as possible. I tried looking for the pictures there just now but their image search engine utterly defeats me - I don't know if it's a problem with my browser or what. I also want to clarify my feelings about this; I don't agree with the use of trained exotic animals, but as Gerard has never made an issue of animal rights he's hardly being hypocritical. Does that make it okay? Not especially. Is attempting to sic PETA on him taking things a bit far? Yes. As their response seems to indicate, they have bigger fish to fry than a rockstar hiring a chimp for his wife's birthday party - they're not going to launch a full-scale campaign for such a relatively minor incident.
I have no respect for a woman any woman who is in a band that sings about women being bitch who should get down on their knees. So when it comes to me I will call here a whore, blowup doll or what every comes to mind. Because she presents herself as one and has no problem making money off of calling all women even ones who are not whores.
I just - don't understand this. I can understand you feel angry at what you perceive to be her hypocritical actions and statements, but how is perpetuating derogatory and demeaning language helping anyone?
I forgot to add that I think it is far more degrading to women when you give respect to women who didn't do anything to deserve it.
I'm not quite sure if you were directing this at me, and my apologies if I've misunderstood - but make no mistake that I respect or hold LynZ in any high regard. I am completely ambivalent towards her. I do not like or dislike her, I have neither respect nor contempt for her. I don't know her, I know next to nothing about her, and I think it would be foolish to devote any amount of time forming an opinion about someone who has no effect on my life whatsoever.
Not only is it the fact that he cut his own brother off before he could speak because it did look like Mikey had something to say but the fact that he acts like he doesn't even want to be there most of the time. Have you heard the interviews with Frank and Mikey they sound like they are having fun.
I'm sure Mikey did have something to say, and I'm sure he was less than pleased at Gerard cutting him off like that. I'm equally sure that if Mikey was truly upset by it, he had words with Gerard about it later. I'm not going to argue with you that in some interviews Gerard does seem rather bored or less than thrilled to be there. But let's think about this for a second - how many interviews do you think Gerard has done since MCR started? While it's all well and good to rail on about how he should be grateful to the fans, grateful for the chance to air his views about certain things, it's unrealistic to expect anyone to express unflagging enthusiasm at the same kinds of questions being asked time and time again. Face it: you'd be bored too. And yes, I have heard the interview with Frank and Mikey you mention - they obviously have a lot in common with the interviewer and are having a great time. But I've also seen interviews where Gerard seems to be having a good time as well.
As for the msi on the cover of a magazine and their cd being in best buy. It sickens me to see a band that has no right to being that store or on any magazine on/in those things because of who one of them is fucking.
It's going a bit far to make declarations about a band not having any right to be on a magazine cover in Best Buy. MSI did, in fact, have a successful career as a band before Gerard and LynZ married. Have they gained more popularity since then? Absolutely. Magazines know what sells and are obviously going to cater to that. But it's a bit foolish to claim that MSI is getting magazine covers just because of who one of their members is 'fucking.' Last I checked Gerard and LynZ are married , which is quite a bit different from just fucking. I really doubt LynZ is the first woman in a band Gerard has slept with, but given the fact that the lead singer of an internationally popular band has actually married -something which obviously implies a level of commitment somewhat beyond a casual hookup - it's inevitable that this will draw attention to his wife's band. Are lots of teenage girls out there only listening to MSI because Gerard is married to their bassist? I don't doubt it for a second. But that's hardly a crime, and as these teenage girls grow up and move on from MCR they're going to move on from MSI just as quickly. No harm, no foul.
It is not because they are traped in the band with GW but because of his acting he is making the whole band look bad. All of them at one point worked very to get where they are. And now that GW has decided to make their shows a stage for his love life it makes them look silly.
How is he making the whole band look bad? His comments about himself, his wife, and their marriage reflect on him and him alone. The oft-cited inside jokes on his neck and the onstage shout-outs during PR were immature at worst - they by no means ruined the show or detracted from the other band members' performances. It's going beyond exaggeration to claim that Gerard is now making their shows 'a stage for his love life.' The band goes onstage and performs in the same way they always have. Gerard wears a wedding ring and dedicates a song to his wife. It seems so incredibly petty to me that people are acting as if this somehow makes the show completely different - as if it ruins it, as if it renders the songs meaningless.
In "Band World", you kow-tow to your vocalist or you're out of the job that you love and which funds your lifestyle. Seriously, what's wrong with showing a little sympathy for 4 hard-working guys who are losing respect and royalties because a section of the fanbase believe their singer's turned into a [insert appropriate term of abuse]?
Bands can and have kicked out and replaced lead singers. Obviously this would result in a monumental drop in popularity for MCR, besides the fact that I very highly doubt Frank, Mikey, Ray, and Bob would want to continue on as MCR without Gerard. Most of the posters here are in the extreme minority - MCR is not losing any significant amount of royalties from the few fans who believe that Gerard has 'ruined' the band. As for respect, the blame there lies with no one but the fans. If people are really so foolish as to overgeneralize their feelings about one member of the band that's their loss.
FYI, I've never shed a single tear for this band and I seriously doubt anyone else here has been in floods either! Save your hyperbole for something that actually matters...
I didn't mean for that to be taken literally, but this did make me laugh.
Hey there noyadedumoineau, welcome to VV's blog.
Okay, just wanted to clear a few things up here.
I also want to clarify my feelings about this; I don't agree with the use of trained exotic animals, but as Gerard has never made an issue of animal rights he's hardly being hypocritical. Does that make it okay? Not especially. Is attempting to sic PETA on him taking things a bit far? Yes.
Actually, in 2004 around the time that Revenge was released, Gerard and Mikey did a pro-PETA interview, which shows he does care about animal rights, so he is a hypocrite. I don't agree with PETAs ideals, but they should be doing something in my opinion. I mean, people out there could say "Oh hey, remember when Gerard hired Lyn-Z a monkey for her birthday? Yeah, I want a monkey hired for my birthday."
I just - don't understand this. I can understand you feel angry at what you perceive to be her hypocritical actions and statements, but how is perpetuating derogatory and demeaning language helping anyone?
Oh of course it's not helping anyone, except the person typing it, because they can let off a bit of steam.
I'm not quite sure if you were directing this at me, and my apologies if I've misunderstood - but make no mistake that I respect or hold LynZ in any high regard. I am completely ambivalent towards her. I do not like or dislike her, I have neither respect nor contempt for her. I don't know her, I know next to nothing about her, and I think it would be foolish to devote any amount of time forming an opinion about someone who has no effect on my life whatsoever.
Personally, I don't like her because it seems as though she thinks everyone else is below her and has so compassion for anything in life.
I'm sure Mikey did have something to say, and I'm sure he was less than pleased at Gerard cutting him off like that. I'm equally sure that if Mikey was truly upset by it, he had words with Gerard about it later. I'm not going to argue with you that in some interviews Gerard does seem rather bored or less than thrilled to be there. But let's think about this for a second - how many interviews do you think Gerard has done since MCR started? While it's all well and good to rail on about how he should be grateful to the fans, grateful for the chance to air his views about certain things, it's unrealistic to expect anyone to express unflagging enthusiasm at the same kinds of questions being asked time and time again. Face it: you'd be bored too.
No offense, but no matter which area of employment you work in, there is going to be a LOT of repitition. I, for example, work in a cafe cleaning tables and serving. It's very boring. But you have to do it with a smile on your face and not bitch because it's your job - if you don't like it, find a new one. Same principle applies to Gerard, and any other celebrity. Life gets boring and repetitive but you have to put on a fake smile and pretend to care. Deal with it.
It's going a bit far to make declarations about a band not having any right to be on a magazine cover in Best Buy. MSI did, in fact, have a successful career as a band before Gerard and LynZ married. Have they gained more popularity since then? Absolutely. Magazines know what sells and are obviously going to cater to that. But it's a bit foolish to claim that MSI is getting magazine covers just because of who one of their members is 'fucking.' Last I checked Gerard and LynZ are married , which is quite a bit different from just fucking.
That last part about fucking and marriage being different is, of course, true. However, I think it is safe to say that MSI are only on magazine covers because of Lyn-Z's connection to Gerard and MCR, so they have less right to be there over musicians who slogged hard and toured their asses off playing to tiny crowds before they got famous without the help of one member marrying a more famous person.
I really doubt LynZ is the first woman in a band Gerard has slept with, but given the fact that the lead singer of an internationally popular band has actually married -something which obviously implies a level of commitment somewhat beyond a casual hookup - it's inevitable that this will draw attention to his wife's band. Are lots of teenage girls out there only listening to MSI because Gerard is married to their bassist? I don't doubt it for a second. But that's hardly a crime, and as these teenage girls grow up and move on from MCR they're going to move on from MSI just as quickly. No harm, no foul.
But it's the fact that these teenage girls are especially impressionable. They will listen to MSI and what will they gain from the lyrics? That it's okay to use a woman for a quick fuck, that drugs are fun and that it's okay be insult anybody you feel like just because you can? That's the harm and that's why people are kicking up such a fuss. Not because they're listening to MSI just because of Lyn-Z and Gerard's marriage.
How is he making the whole band look bad? His comments about himself, his wife, and their marriage reflect on him and him alone. The oft-cited inside jokes on his neck and the onstage shout-outs during PR were immature at worst - they by no means ruined the show or detracted from the other band members' performances. It's going beyond exaggeration to claim that Gerard is now making their shows 'a stage for his love life.' The band goes onstage and performs in the same way they always have. Gerard wears a wedding ring and dedicates a song to his wife. It seems so incredibly petty to me that people are acting as if this somehow makes the show completely different - as if it ruins it, as if it renders the songs meaningless.
Actually, I believe Gerard's marriage has made a difference to their preformances. I saw them live pre- and post-marriage, and I much preferred the first gig. Sorry. It's not because he dedicated a song to Lyn-Z or because he wore his wedding ring, it's because he acted as if he was a part of MSI, pulling stunts you would expect from Jimmy Urine, like calling the crowd faggots and telling the little girls in the room to make sex noises for him coz that's all they'd be doing the rest of their lives. I was there, and it happened, and that is how Gerard Way is making a mockery of MCR's live shows.
Bands can and have kicked out and replaced lead singers. Obviously this would result in a monumental drop in popularity for MCR, besides the fact that I very highly doubt Frank, Mikey, Ray, and Bob would want to continue on as MCR without Gerard. Most of the posters here are in the extreme minority - MCR is not losing any significant amount of royalties from the few fans who believe that Gerard has 'ruined' the band. As for respect, the blame there lies with no one but the fans. If people are really so foolish as to overgeneralize their feelings about one member of the band that's their loss.
They aren't losing royalties because there are idiots out there who are keeping people like this in a position where they can spout their bullshit to the media at every given opprtunity by buying their merch and CDs. Well, they haven't got any money from me since TBP and they certainly won't be seeing anymore of my hard-earned cash lining their pockets if bullshit, insulting fans and hypocrisy is what MCR now stands for.
I detest the rest of the band, and their management and record label and whoever else I can hold responsible, for allowing Gerard to behave in such a rude and innappropriate manner. There. I've said it. I hate MCR and they are dead to me. Gerard lost my respect by treating people like shit, and the rest of the band/management/etc lost my respect for allowing him to become the idiot that he has.
Okay, I'm done for now.
The "Monkey-gate" picture
I don't agree with the use of trained exotic animals, but as Gerard has never made an issue of animal rights he's hardly being hypocritical.
Gerard:"The band is obviously opposed to animal cruelty..."
GW did an interview for PETA Where he talked about things like dissecting animals was wrong.
So it was felt that he was going against his so called ethics when he rented that monkey. And that is why some of the people contacted PETA
T's going a bit far to make declarations about a band not having any right to be on a magazine cover in Best Buy.
I don't think it is. There are a lot of people out there who are famous who really shouldn't be. They have done nothing but appear on bad reality tv or sucked the President off.
Msi is just yet another extensions of this. And that is were the harm comes. It is yet another group of people who are using the fact that they have someone with more famous as a friend/fan/lover to become successful instead of their talent.
That message is being put out over and over again to young people now that it isn't your abilities that will get you know it is who you know or are fucking. That is where the harm comes in.
As far as msi being successful that depends on what your definition of success is.
We all know that we are in the minority. But I refuse to give anymore money to MCR because part of it will be going to support msi.
If I could say that I want money to go only to the other four guys I would still buy their stuff but I can't do that.
Most of us here liked MCR because they had a code of ethics. GW was the voice for that. But now not those ethics are not cool.
Promoting a band that thinks it is cool to call people derogatory names is. That changes everything for me.
It is not even about being grateful to the fans with me. If he is so bored and tired than let someone else get a word in. There are four other people in the band.
I just - don't understand this. I can understand you feel angry at what you perceive to be her hypocritical actions and statements, but how is perpetuating derogatory and demeaning language helping anyone?
I was stating my reason for why I have called her a whore. It wasn't to help anyone. I just don't think that being respectful people who are so will to make money off of degrading another person is a good idea. I believe in do unto others as you would have them do unto you. You want to call people names I will call you ones right back to you.
I tried to give a response to everything I said. But what it comes down to is this. I have very strong ethics and beliefs. I thought that MCR was a group of people who shared those things. That is why I was so willing to support them. But now one member the voice is saying to hell with that shit and no one else in the band is willing to step forward and say that that is only that one member who has changed.
Oh, I like you Martha Jones. That was nicely said.
*applauds politely*
Thank you blink I like what you had to say as well
'MCR is not losing any significant amount of royalties from the few fans who believe that Gerard has 'ruined' the band.'
And where is TBPID on the Billboard chart a mere 2 weeks after release? It sold 23,000 copies (including pre-orders) then disappeared. Admittedly live albums never sell as well as their studio counterparts, but that leaves 1,073,000 people who bought TBP who couldn't give a shit about the supposedly 'live' DVD.
If we are in such a minority, I would love to know why you care!
'But it's a bit foolish to claim that MSI is getting magazine covers just because of who one of their members is 'fucking.''
How about 'MSI is getting magazine covers just because of who one of their members is married to.' then? Is this somehow better - that a ring makes it OKay for a woman to ride a man's coat-tails, rather than achieve success on her own merits, whilst claiming to be a 'feminist'? MSI's own press page provides all the proof you need to show that this is what has happened.
'The oft-cited inside jokes on his neck and the onstage shout-outs during PR were immature at worst - they by no means ruined the show or detracted from the other band members' performances.'
If fans say they think the show has changed (myself included) then they think the show has changed. Really you probably should save your breath for masturbating over your Gerard poster. Would you or any of the teenies even give a shit what we wrote here if he looked like Chad Kroeger? You've fallen in love with a man you see in magazines because he's pretty, and because he's pretty you will defend his actions in a way you never would if he were just a regular guy. I think you should get out and find yourself a real man who will love you back rather than waste your life fantasising about a PR exercise!
you're all thinking it said...
"Question:
'What do you anons get from proving that Mayo is or isn't Gerard Way? What do you get from ridiculing his behaviour?'
1). Mayo isn't Gerard Way. Mayo obviously reads the comments, while Gerard Way is far to fucking stupid to ever conceive of this and he only pays attention to those who lick his whole asshole these days.
2). It is human nature to build people up and bring them down. Gerard Way has made the process easier and more enjoyable by revealing his true colors in the last year. A man who once claimed to be in music for the message and his fans - who came from a more vulnerable group than most - has proven that he's actually in music for the money and the fame and he really couldn't give 2 shits if those teens take a hot soapy bath with a razorblade just as long as they spend enough of Mom & Pop's money on his child sweatshop-made merchandise in the meantime. I give him 2 years before he offs himself with a coke OD and I'd be counting down the days with glee if it wasn't for the horrifying prospect of Lyn-Z forever hanging around like the post-Thanksgiving dinner unflushable dump whilst pretending she actually loved him for anything besides the promotion of her tired and unoriginal band."
I give him 2 years before he offs himself with a coke OD and I'd be counting down the days with glee
You are a very sick individual, get help. You disgust me.
Actually, in 2004 around the time that Revenge was released, Gerard and Mikey did a pro-PETA interview, which shows he does care about animal rights, so he is a hypocrite. I don't agree with PETAs ideals, but they should be doing something in my opinion. I mean, people out there could say "Oh hey, remember when Gerard hired Lyn-Z a monkey for her birthday? Yeah, I want a monkey hired for my birthday."
When I said that Gerard has never made an issue of animal rights, I meant that it has never been something he's talked about or brought up in any consistent matter. That being said, this is honestly a bit stupid. You can't make a blanket assumption about what his views on varying animal rights issues are based on one PETA interview - an interview in which the broadest statement he makes is something like "the band is against animal cruelty." He spends the rest of the interview talking specifically about his opposition to animal dissection. You can't assume to know what he defines as animal cruelty based on one interview that's less than two minutes long. And it's also a bit ridiculous to be concerned about people attempting to emulate him by renting chimpanzees or monkeys for their own birthdays. Besides the fact that the vast majority of people would be unable to do so, as I imagine it's quite cost prohibitive, he is in no way responsible for every single ethical aspect of every fan's life. People are responsible for their own choices and decisions regarding things like that.
Oh of course it's not helping anyone, except the person typing it, because they can let off a bit of steam.
It's quickly becoming apparent that this is a useless point to argue with some of you, but whoever claims to be offended by LynZ being hypocritical in her actions and statements as someone who sees herself as a role model for girls is herself being extremely hypocritical in calling LynZ a whore or any other demeaning term. If someone wants to call her a whore or a slut in the privacy of their own home and doesn't feel like that's contradicting their own purported beliefs about respect for women, then by all means, go for it - but when they put it out there on any kind of public forum, even something so narrowly trafficked as this blog, they themselves are being hypocritical.
Personally, I don't like her because it seems as though she thinks everyone else is below her and has no compassion for anything in life.
Do you realize how ridiculous that is? What do you know about her? Really and truly know about her? You know that she's in a band, whose lyrics I assume you find offensive. You know that she's married to the lead singer of a band you may or may not still like. And...what else. You cannot possibly claim to have any remotely accurate idea of who she is or what she's actually like as a person - because, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you have never spoken with her or spent any significant amount of time around her. Where on earth can you find evidence to support your assumption that she 'thinks everyone else is below her' and that she 'has no compassion for anything in life?' Try and think for a moment before you make such assumptions about someone who's a complete stranger to you.
That last part about fucking and marriage being different is, of course, true. However, I think it is safe to say that MSI are only on magazine covers because of Lyn-Z's connection to Gerard and MCR, so they have less right to be there over musicians who slogged hard and toured their asses off playing to tiny crowds before they got famous without the help of one member marrying a more famous person.
I'm not going to argue with you that MSI's increase in popularity is very much connected with Gerard and LynZ's marriage. But you can't honestly think that MSI is just being pulled from nowhere because of this. MSI has been around for over ten years if I'm not mistaken, and the fact that until now they haven't experienced even the smallest amount of mainstream popularity renders your point invalid. Do you think they were touring in a decked-out bus when they released their first album in 1999? They have worked just as long and hard as many other bands out there, and they had their own very dedicated fan base long before LynZ married Gerard. It's being incredibly simplistic and foolish to act as if MSI sat on their asses until someone got the bright idea to marry off LynZ to Gerard and BAM get their career started. I'm not disallowing the possibility that LynZ is using Gerard and MCR's fame to boost her own band's popularity, but the fact remains that none of us is qualified to make any kind of judgment about that - we don't know them, and we don't know anything about their relationship.
But it's the fact that these teenage girls are especially impressionable. They will listen to MSI and what will they gain from the lyrics? That it's okay to use a woman for a quick fuck, that drugs are fun and that it's okay be insult anybody you feel like just because you can? That's the harm and that's why people are kicking up such a fuss. Not because they're listening to MSI just because of Lyn-Z and Gerard's marriage.
What do you think the vast majority of teenagers listen to? Do you think Soulja Boy's 'Superman' is an inspirational song for impressionable young girls? And what about a few years ago when lots of girls were going around singing 'hit me baby one more time?' Popular music (be it girl-pop, hiphop, or rap) often has a less than ideal message for the teenagers who are listening to it. You're missing the bigger picture if you really think the girls who have started listening to MSI haven't already been hearing lyrics like that for years.
Actually, I believe Gerard's marriage has made a difference to their preformances. I saw them live pre- and post-marriage, and I much preferred the first gig. Sorry. It's not because he dedicated a song to Lyn-Z or because he wore his wedding ring, it's because he acted as if he was a part of MSI, pulling stunts you would expect from Jimmy Urine, like calling the crowd faggots and telling the little girls in the room to make sex noises for him coz that's all they'd be doing the rest of their lives. I was there, and it happened, and that is how Gerard Way is making a mockery of MCR's live shows.
I've also seen MCR several times pre- and post-marriage, if we're going to get into this. I saw MCR's set at Bamboozle Left and other than the type of song dedication I mentioned it was no different than any of the other shows I've been to. The moaning incident is brought up time and time again - but you can't begin to claim that that is an accurate reflection of MCR's live show now. He did it what, once , twice at most? That is not the norm for MCR shows, and it's stupid to pretend that it is. The fact is that the vast majority of people at those shows are more than old enough to think for themselves. People keep going on and on about the poor impressionable youth being corrupted by Gerard, but do you know what? I'm a teenager too. I first saw MCR when I was 17. Had I been at the show where Gerard pulled the moaning stunt I would have laughed. People are only as obsessive and impressionable as they want to be - I call bullshit on anyone who tries to claim that girls who were at those shows are going to be affected by it for the rest of their lives. Even at 13 you're more than capable of considering something rationally; it is you and you alone who is responsible for deciding what you're going to believe and take to heart. And I'm honestly sick of this "little girls" pity-party. If there were young children there - eight, nine, ten year-olds - whose fault is that? Most of MCR's music isn't appropriate for children that young, and their live show certainly isn't appropriate either. Blame lies with the parents who may have brought these "little girls" to a show - it would have been quickly apparent given the lyrics and language Gerard uses on stage that it is not a family-friendly show, and it would have been up to the parents to decide whether or not they wanted to take their children and leave. I hardly think that was Gerard's finest hour, but I certainly don't think it was this eternally damning incident so many of you make it out to be.
Also - when and where did Gerard ever call the audience faggots? I haven't heard anything about this.
I detest the rest of the band, and their management and record label and whoever else I can hold responsible, for allowing Gerard to behave in such a rude and innappropriate manner. There. I've said it. I hate MCR and they are dead to me. Gerard lost my respect by treating people like shit, and the rest of the band/management/etc lost my respect for allowing him to become the idiot that he has.
You detest the band? Really? You detest people you don't know, have never had any extended contact with, and who as far as I'm aware haven't committed any great acts of evil? I totally fail to understand declarations of hate and loathing towards complete strangers. You can't blame anyone other than yourself for making the mistake of thinking you know someone on the basis of interviews and performances. It's so incredibly foolish to sling mud at someone that you do not know.
Most of us here liked MCR because they had a code of ethics. GW was the voice for that. But now not those ethics are not cool.
To be honest, that seems to be your mistake right there. You should like a band for their music - it's what they're there to do and when it comes down to it it's the only thing they are responsible for providing to fans. I first started liking MCR because of their music - and sure, I was excited when I saw some of the things they said in interviews, when I started learning more about some of the social views they've expressed. But it's foolish to pin your affection for a band's music on anything other than the music itself. I'm not saying that anyone should blindly follow any given band based on affection for their music, because there's lots of bands out there full of assholes who will abuse that. The world is full of assholes looking for opportunities to use and take advantage of people. It's up to each person to be aware of who and what they're following and to decide how much trust to put into it.
I have very strong ethics and beliefs. I thought that MCR was a group of people who shared those things. That is why I was so willing to support them. But now one member the voice is saying to hell with that shit and no one else in the band is willing to step forward and say that that is only that one member who has changed.
I'm not going to insult you for wanting to support people who you believed shared your ethics and beliefs, but as I said above - that was your mistake to make. I'm fully aware that Gerard in particular has expressed his beliefs about various ethical issues on numerous occasions, but you have to realize that these are nothing more than statements pulled from brief interviews. We have no way of knowing what any celebrity's actual commitment to a given issue or ideal is when all is said and done if you're merely going off interviews. It's easy to say things with the best of intentions. And as I'm sure you're aware, people change. People are not infallible. I'm sure you're well aware of the interviews where Gerard says that he feels MCR has said what they wanted to say about a lot of the things they focussed on when starting out and now just want to focus on making music. He and the other band members have every right to make that decision, and it's really not our problem if this doesn't accurately reflect the other band members' feelings. They're grown men who are more than capable of expressing themselves if they so desire.
Thanks for the picture link Anonymous.
And where is TBPID on the Billboard chart a mere 2 weeks after release? It sold 23,000 copies (including pre-orders) then disappeared. Admittedly live albums never sell as well as their studio counterparts, but that leaves 1,073,000 people who bought TBP who couldn't give a shit about the supposedly 'live' DVD.
As you yourself pointed out, it's very rare that live albums are chart-toppers. And do you honestly think that all two million of the people who purchased TBP were the kind of diehard fans who would be interested in a live DVD? It was a mainstream hit - lots of people bought it simply because it was on the radio and a lot of other people were listening to it.
If we are in such a minority, I would love to know why you care!
I care because it frustrates me when people are so single-minded in their attempts to tear someone down.
How about 'MSI is getting magazine covers just because of who one of their members is married to.' then? Is this somehow better - that a ring makes it OKay for a woman to ride a man's coat-tails, rather than achieve success on her own merits, whilst claiming to be a 'feminist'? MSI's own press page provides all the proof you need to show that this is what has happened.
None of us have enough information to make any kind of judgments on whether or not LynZ's decision to marry Gerard was something deliberately done to further her own fame. Don't make claims that you can't back up. What about their press page? I'm not sure what you're referring to.
If fans say they think the show has changed (myself included) then they think the show has changed.
Obviously. I'm not quite sure where you were trying to go with that.
Really you probably should save your breath for masturbating over your Gerard poster. Would you or any of the teenies even give a shit what we wrote here if he looked like Chad Kroeger? You've fallen in love with a man you see in magazines because he's pretty, and because he's pretty you will defend his actions in a way you never would if he were just a regular guy. I think you should get out and find yourself a real man who will love you back rather than waste your life fantasising about a PR exercise!
And this is the point where I lose all respect for any of the arguments you've made. The fact that this is the best you can come up with simply shows how shallow the rest of your arguments are. I've tried to be at the very least civil towards everyone on this blog and your childish name-calling is laughable. Calling me a teeny and making such stupid accusations doesn't hide the fact that you can't make a single valid argument.
And to "harsh but probably true"'s post: Whoever wrote this appears to be little more than one among many who like to belittle celebrities for their own enjoyment. Go troll elsewhere.
'You should like a band for their music'
Oh, what a naive little girl. Why do certain artists post massive first-week sales for albums when the fanbase hasn't even had a chance to hear more than one track? Why do bands have PRs? Why do singers do interviews if it all boils down to the music like you claim?
If you seriously think that MCR would have the size of fanbase they have now if Gerard hadn't told all those sweet little lies then you ARE crazy!
I like you Moineau. No-one else here can make me laugh so hard by thinking they're oh-so-clever...
'Go troll elsewhere.'
Funny, but I thought this was a 'hate blog'. Surely, it's you who should be elsewhere, fawning over a man who'd sell his 'beloved' grandmother to the Devil for a little bit of credibility?
'The fact that this is the best you can come up with simply shows how shallow the rest of your arguments are.'
for what it's worth noyadedumoineau, i thought the argument that the 'beautiful people' were treated more favourably than the rest WAS a valid argument. and you DO see that attitude at Buzznet.
'Do you think Soulja Boy's 'Superman' is an inspirational song for impressionable young girls?'
Soulja Boy never explicitly stated that he was against the treatment of women as sex objects, Gerard Way did. He's also never explicitly stated that he 'wanted to save your life' either.
'I'm not going to insult you for wanting to support people who you believed shared your ethics and beliefs, but as I said above - that was your mistake to make.'
So it's perfectly OK to repeatedly lie to your fanbase - more fool them for buying into the lie, eh? - but it's not OK to criticise someone for doing so?!
'And do you honestly think that all two million of the people who purchased TBP were the kind of diehard fans who would be interested in a live DVD?'
No, but I would have thought that a larger fraction of the hundreds of thousands of fans who'd paid a large amount of money for concert tickets or the THREE million who'd bought TBP but couldn't make it to a show, would have wanted a DVD of the band live.
'None of us have enough information to make any kind of judgments on whether or not LynZ's decision to marry Gerard was something deliberately done to further her own fame.'
Please point out where in my comment I wrote that she '[married] to further her own fame'. I merely suggested that she has used the attention garnered from her marriage to further her career, which - given the flaunting of her relationship as part of her professional show - is pretty much undeniable. MSI's press page shows the amount of media attention they've had before and after the marriage, demonstrating the positive effect the flaunting of said relationship has had on Lyn-Z's career.
'I care because it frustrates me when people are so single-minded in their attempts to tear someone down.'
It's because he's shown himself to be a hypocrite and a liar and ,generally speaking, it's not considered beneficial to society for people to reap the benefit of hypocrisy and lies - it's called 'Fraud'.
'for what it's worth noyadedumoineau, i thought the argument that the 'beautiful people' were treated more favourably than the rest WAS a valid argument. and you DO see that attitude at Buzznet.'
Thank you trying to stay neutral. I may have crossed the line with the masturbation comment, but your defence of poor baby Gerard does smack of all those teenies who think their hero can do no wrong, and who hold him up in such a fashion purely because they think he's so purdie. Can you hand on heart say that you don't like him at least partially based on his looks?
And finally,
'If you seriously think that MCR would have the size of fanbase they have now if Gerard hadn't told all those sweet little lies then you ARE crazy!'
Quoted for truth.
Well said diane.
Although I think we should all cut down on the insults and extreme rudeness. It's hard not to get angry, but it makes you look bad.
Feel free to ignore that though, you can insult away if you want to.
On a side note, Soulja Boy's song isn't called 'Superman', it's called 'Crank That (Soulja Boy)'
your childish name-calling is laughable.
Equally laughable is that Diane didn't actually call you any names Moineau! She just wrote (somewhat crassly, I'll admit) what a lot of people on this blog think of you and the others rushing to defend this individual against a lot of people who've accused him of OH MY GOD!! - lying and selling out his band. NOT rape, murder or genocide for chrissakes! Let's just say, if it denies the changes in Gerard like a Buzznet Teenie and defends the changes in Gerard (whilst denying they happened!) like a Buzznet Teenie, then the chances are it's a Buzznet Teenie.
2.41am, 2.45am & 4.59am are all me. I should apologise for any confusion.
Pics or it didn't happen and etc.
Why is it that Gerard defenders always pull out the lamest, most ridiculous, internet-tired arguments to try and make their point? Honestly, of all them, this is probably the one I hate the most.
Because everything that ever happens is documented in pictures, right, noyadedumoineau?
Oh, but the most laughable part of this is the fact that someone did produce a picture.
BURN!
Really you probably should save your breath for masturbating over your Gerard poster.
I guess that's what they mean by "The MCR fandom...come for the music, stay for the wank."!!
LOLz
I care because it frustrates me when people are so single-minded in their attempts to tear someone down.
Then you should care about this whole thing with Gerard, because his entire marriage it seems is a single minded attempt to tear down his exes. That's what all his ranting and raving about being "SO IN LOVE" is really about.
'You should like a band for their music'
Oh, what a naive little girl. Why do certain artists post massive first-week sales for albums when the fanbase hasn't even had a chance to hear more than one track? Why do bands have PRs? Why do singers do interviews if it all boils down to the music like you claim?
I was speaking directly to the poster I was responding to. Read it with that in mind and it will make much more sense. I wasn't attempting to make some broad claim about how I think the music industry does or should work.
Funny, but I thought this was a 'hate blog'. Surely, it's you who should be elsewhere, fawning over a man who'd sell his 'beloved' grandmother to the Devil for a little bit of credibility?
I know that's what got me into MCR's music. Oh wow, the Ways have a grandmother they wrote a song about. How awesome!!!
I don't see your point in claiming that Gerard talking about how his grandmother inspired him and is the basis for one of their songs is some kind of grab for credibility. It would certainly be a very odd way to go about it.
for what it's worth noyadedumoineau, i thought the argument that the 'beautiful people' were treated more favourably than the rest WAS a valid argument. and you DO see that attitude at Buzznet.
Was that the argument she was trying to make in between tired insults? I seem to have missed it.
Soulja Boy never explicitly stated that he was against the treatment of women as sex objects, Gerard Way did. He's also never explicitly stated that he 'wanted to save your life' either.
I was responding to someone who was objecting to the supposed harmful influence MSI's music is going to have on the girls who listen to it. Try and keep up.
So it's perfectly OK to repeatedly lie to your fanbase - more fool them for buying into the lie, eh? - but it's not OK to criticise someone for doing so?!
At this point I have yet to see any proof that Gerard lied maliciously and intentionally to fans.
Please point out where in my comment I wrote that she '[married] to further her own fame'. I merely suggested that she has used the attention garnered from her marriage to further her career, which - given the flaunting of her relationship as part of her professional show - is pretty much undeniable. MSI's press page shows the amount of media attention they've had before and after the marriage, demonstrating the positive effect the flaunting of said relationship has had on Lyn-Z's career.
I think you're twisting this a bit too far. As I've said several times, I absolutely agree that MSI's recent increase in popularity is connected to LynZ and Gerard's marriage. However if I'm understanding you correctly you're implying that people are going to MSI shows to see LynZ 'flaunt her relationship' - which, as far as I'm aware (feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken) doesn't happen. Sure, lots of kids are going to shows that might not have otherwise, but LynZ's hardly standing on stage waving a banner that says I MARRIED GERARD WAY. Obviously these kids are well aware of this, but I don't think you can claim she's 'flaunting her relationship as part of her stage show.'
It's because he's shown himself to be a hypocrite and a liar and ,generally speaking, it's not considered beneficial to society for people to reap the benefit of hypocrisy and lies - it's called 'Fraud'.
Good on you for trying to save society, then. God save us all from Gerard Way and his dastardly schemes.
I may have crossed the line with the masturbation comment, but your defence of poor baby Gerard does smack of all those teenies who think their hero can do no wrong, and who hold him up in such a fashion purely because they think he's so purdie. Can you hand on heart say that you don't like him at least partially based on his looks?
If you'd actually take a minute to sit and look at my arguments you'll see that nowhere have I presented 'poor baby Gerard' as any kind of saint. I'm assuming this is how you read it because you're coming from a seemingly very antagonistic point of view, but I've admitted multiple times that many accusations some of you have pinned on him could be true. He could still be a complete booze-hound druggie, he could be the biggest male chauvinist known to mankind. I raise objections at the fact that you present these kind of claims as if they're irrefutable fact when in reality there is no concrete proof either way. In many instances you're grasping at straws, as with 'monkeygate' as some of you are calling it. I'm certainly not so stupid as to idolize a rock star as any kind of hero. And here you have no reason to believe me - I doubt that you will - but my interest in MCR has nothing to do with Gerard Way's face or that of any of the other band members. My taste doesn't generally run to tilt-nosed men who are twelve years older than me.
On a side note, Soulja Boy's song isn't called 'Superman', it's called 'Crank That (Soulja Boy)'
My mistake!
Equally laughable is that Diane didn't actually call you any names Moineau!
"Would you or any of the teenies even give a shit what we wrote here if he looked like Chad Kroeger?"
'Teeny' is a term that is obviously intended to be insulting. Thus, name-calling. My mistake if I was wrong in assuming she was also labeling me as a 'teeny.'
Let's just say, if it denies the changes in Gerard like a Buzznet Teenie and defends the changes in Gerard (whilst denying they happened!) like a Buzznet Teenie, then the chances are it's a Buzznet Teenie.
Again - I have no expectation that any of you will believe me, as it best suits your arguments not to, but my experience with Buzznet has been limited to a handful of times that I've been linked there by someone for one reason or another. Nor have I ever been one of those girls screaming for Gerard to have my babies. Take this as you will.
Why is it that Gerard defenders always pull out the lamest, most ridiculous, internet-tired arguments to try and make their point? Honestly, of all them, this is probably the one I hate the most.
Because everything that ever happens is documented in pictures, right, noyadedumoineau?
Oh, but the most laughable part of this is the fact that someone did produce a picture.
I said that because I was unable to find any pictures myself and assumed someone else would be able to provide them for me. After reading over comments about the monkey incident it seemed pretty clear that it actually did occur - you'll notice that I at no point tried to say that it hadn't. I merely said that I hadn't heard anything about the incident, and I wanted to see the pictures for myself. I wasn't trying to prove any point about the validity of peoples' claims in that instance.
Then you should care about this whole thing with Gerard, because his entire marriage it seems is a single minded attempt to tear down his exes. That's what all his ranting and raving about being "SO IN LOVE" is really about.
Tru fax, huh? I'm glad you're here to interpret that so definitively for me. Thanks.
When I said that Gerard has never made an issue of animal rights, I meant that it has never been something he's talked about or brought up in any consistent matter. That being said, this is honestly a bit stupid. You can't make a blanket assumption about what his views on varying animal rights issues are based on one PETA interview - an interview in which the broadest statement he makes is something like "the band is against animal cruelty." He spends the rest of the interview talking specifically about his opposition to animal dissection. You can't assume to know what he defines as animal cruelty based on one interview that's less than two minutes long. And it's also a bit ridiculous to be concerned about people attempting to emulate him by renting chimpanzees or monkeys for their own birthdays. Besides the fact that the vast majority of people would be unable to do so, as I imagine it's quite cost prohibitive, he is in no way responsible for every single ethical aspect of every fan's life. People are responsible for their own choices and decisions regarding things like that.
When a person says "This band is against animal cruelty", that sort of implies that they don't agree with animals being beaten and abused and they certainly wouldn't hire a caged - and possibly beaten - animal for entertainment purposes. Or did they change the definition of animal cruelty while my back was turned?
If Lyn-Z is such a role model for little girls and women (as she claims to be) then yes, people will copy her. How many spoilt kids have you seen driving the latest car, paid for courtesy of Daddy's credit card, because a celebrity has it? Or wearing something because their favourite singer wore it once? Don't you think people like that will feel as if they have to keep up with their role models - people such as Lyn-Z and Gerard? And by advocating animal cruelty in this way they are showing what bad role models they are, but yet people will still imitate them. Simple.
It's quickly becoming apparent that this is a useless point to argue with some of you, but whoever claims to be offended by LynZ being hypocritical in her actions and statements as someone who sees herself as a role model for girls is herself being extremely hypocritical in calling LynZ a whore or any other demeaning term. If someone wants to call her a whore or a slut in the privacy of their own home and doesn't feel like that's contradicting their own purported beliefs about respect for women, then by all means, go for it - but when they put it out there on any kind of public forum, even something so narrowly trafficked as this blog, they themselves are being hypocritical.
I didn't say I approved of people calling her names, I just said it's not doing any good other than to give them a way to express their anger. Yes it is hypocritical to call her a slut if you are complaining about her hypocracy and lack of respect for women in the first place, but I never called her any such thing.
Do you realize how ridiculous that is? What do you know about her? Really and truly know about her? You know that she's in a band, whose lyrics I assume you find offensive. You know that she's married to the lead singer of a band you may or may not still like. And...what else. You cannot possibly claim to have any remotely accurate idea of who she is or what she's actually like as a person - because, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you have never spoken with her or spent any significant amount of time around her. Where on earth can you find evidence to support your assumption that she 'thinks everyone else is below her' and that she 'has no compassion for anything in life?' Try and think for a moment before you make such assumptions about someone who's a complete stranger to you.
In every interview MSI have done recently, Lyn-Z talks about how real musicians "bore her" and Jimmy talks about how music is "just a job" rather than something that you can learn from. It seems as if the band as a whole think serious musicians aren't as important in the world as they are. And it seems as if they don't care about getting new fans because Lyn-Z stated that she finds it creepy when MCR fans come see MSI in concert because she assumes they just want to see Gerard. Lyn-Z admits she is a shit bassist and has no desire to learn how to play. She never talks about Gerard unless it's to complain how she's called "Mrs Gerard Way" now.
Now to me, this suggests they think they are above other people and don't need to be good at stuff to be famous. Maybe compassion was the wrong word, but the idea is they don't care about other people. I said Lyn-Z specifically because that's the member of the band we were talking about and the one who gets the most publicity.
But you can't honestly think that MSI is just being pulled from nowhere because of this. MSI has been around for over ten years if I'm not mistaken, and the fact that until now they haven't experienced even the smallest amount of mainstream popularity renders your point invalid. Do you think they were touring in a decked-out bus when they released their first album in 1999? They have worked just as long and hard as many other bands out there, and they had their own very dedicated fan base long before LynZ married Gerard.
Oh I know MSI existed long before the marriage. I know many people who listened to MSI before they were cool and now hate them because of all the "fangirls" going to the shows and buying the merch and CDs. But they never had any real success until Lyn-Z married Gerard. They haven't worked hard to get to the top, they've worked hard to please their own established fan base. The band never seemed to care about making it big.
The main point I was making was there are other bands who have gotten to the top without marrying someone famous, and MSI have not done that. If they had, I would accept that they used their own initiative, worked hard and got to the top through dedication. But the fact that their popularity stems from the marriage of two band members makes my point perfectly valid. They don't deserve to receive all the pulicity that they do.
It's being incredibly simplistic and foolish to act as if MSI sat on their asses until someone got the bright idea to marry off LynZ to Gerard and BAM get their career started. I'm not disallowing the possibility that LynZ is using Gerard and MCR's fame to boost her own band's popularity, but the fact remains that none of us is qualified to make any kind of judgment about that - we don't know them, and we don't know anything about their relationship.
I never said nor implied that they just sat around waiting for someone to marry Lyn-Z off to so that they have a career. As I have explained above.
What do you think the vast majority of teenagers listen to? Do you think Soulja Boy's 'Superman' is an inspirational song for impressionable young girls? And what about a few years ago when lots of girls were going around singing 'hit me baby one more time?' Popular music (be it girl-pop, hiphop, or rap) often has a less than ideal message for the teenagers who are listening to it. You're missing the bigger picture if you really think the girls who have started listening to MSI haven't already been hearing lyrics like that for years.
Yes, but not so blatently. Most music is left free for you to interpret in your own way (at least, most pop/rock songs are. I'm not sure about rap or RnB as I don't really like that sort of music). MSI shove their lyrics in your face and you have to see them exactly as they are and know that they are meant in that way.
I've also seen MCR several times pre- and post-marriage, if we're going to get into this. I saw MCR's set at Bamboozle Left and other than the type of song dedication I mentioned it was no different than any of the other shows I've been to.
Bamboozle is a bad example. There are tons of bands there, it's not as if it's the same environment as their own tours.
The moaning incident is brought up time and time again - but you can't begin to claim that that is an accurate reflection of MCR's live show now. He did it what, once , twice at most? That is not the norm for MCR shows, and it's stupid to pretend that it is.
It is a true reflection of the band if they are doing it more than once. Maybe it was meant as a joke, but coming from a man who claimed to have a lot of respect for women, it's disgusting.
The fact is that the vast majority of people at those shows are more than old enough to think for themselves. People keep going on and on about the poor impressionable youth being corrupted by Gerard, but do you know what? I'm a teenager too. I first saw MCR when I was 17. Had I been at the show where Gerard pulled the moaning stunt I would have laughed. People are only as obsessive and impressionable as they want to be - I call bullshit on anyone who tries to claim that girls who were at those shows are going to be affected by it for the rest of their lives. Even at 13 you're more than capable of considering something rationally; it is you and you alone who is responsible for deciding what you're going to believe and take to heart. And I'm honestly sick of this "little girls" pity-party. If there were young children there - eight, nine, ten year-olds - whose fault is that? Most of MCR's music isn't appropriate for children that young, and their live show certainly isn't appropriate either. Blame lies with the parents who may have brought these "little girls" to a show - it would have been quickly apparent given the lyrics and language Gerard uses on stage that it is not a family-friendly show, and it would have been up to the parents to decide whether or not they wanted to take their children and leave. I hardly think that was Gerard's finest hour, but I certainly don't think it was this eternally damning incident so many of you make it out to be.
But because MCR are now such a popular group, their songs are being played on radio stations, on MTV, in shopping malls, everywhere. It's unreasinable not to expect someone young to hear the song and like it, and then pressure their parents into taking them to see a concert. Which the parents would of course be horrified at because of what is said and done there. Yes, parents should not be taking young kids to see a band which doesn't have a family-friendly image, but that doesn't mean it's the parents fault if their kids do go see a concert by bands like this and get offended or upset by it. Even if their kids aren't old enough to take care of themselves properly.
And the incident will put parents off letting their kids listen to the band, so it is "eternally damning" because their reputation as a band with a decent moral code has effectively been ruined by one comment.
Also - when and where did Gerard ever call the audience faggots? I haven't heard anything about this.
A few people have been saying online about the "faggots" thing. I have no idea. At the last gig I was at he wanted the crowd to moan for him, that's what I meant by the "I was there and can tell you that it did happen" comment. As for the name-calling, personally, I don't know when or where. It's just some rumours that have been going around. But if the man who is supposedly pro-feminism asking people to moan for him is anything to go by... anythig is possible.
You detest the band? Really? You detest people you don't know, have never had any extended contact with, and who as far as I'm aware haven't committed any great acts of evil? I totally fail to understand declarations of hate and loathing towards complete strangers. You can't blame anyone other than yourself for making the mistake of thinking you know someone on the basis of interviews and performances. It's so incredibly foolish to sling mud at someone that you do not know.
I didn't think I knew them, I respected them for making good music and seeming to be different from the other celebrities (y'know, keeping their private lives private, only wanting to talk about the music rather than themselves, telling the fans not to take any shit from anyone, etc). Anyone who can treat their fans in such a rude and undignified way doesn't deserve to have fans and loses my resect every Brownie point I ever gave them. Anyone who stands by and watches this happening also loses my respect and Brownie points.
And just as a general note to anyone who reads this blog(I am not aiming this at anyone in particular, so please don't feel as if I am):
To be perfectly honest, I don't really want to read anymore insanely long and repetitive posts about how people who post here are wrong, especially if your only arguements are that you are sick of the poor impressionable little girls line that we are so concerned with, that you should only care about the music, that we should stop bashing the band, that Lyn-Z and Gerard are adults and therefore entitled to do as they like or we shouldn't judge based on interviews and the music they write because we don't know the people personally.
I'm here to talk with other people who feel a similar way about a band as I do.
We who post here regularly feel MCR have changed, and we appreciate that there are places for us to talk about it where we aren't be flamed and insulted for having an opinion outside the norm. If we, as fans, are so disappionted that we no longer feel a connection to the band, we are entitled to talk about it - as are those who still feel a connection to the band.
If you don't like it, go to ImNotOkay.net or a similar fansite. After all we don't go there and fill pages with how you are all idiots and should listen to us, so please have the same respect for us and realise that we have different opinions to yours and leave it at that.
Okay, sorry for the length of this post and thank you for reading it.
It's seriously coming as a shock to some of you that Gerard monopolizes interviews? Where have you been for, oh - the past six years or so? The same goes for those of you expressing contempt that Gerard seems so arrogant about MCR's greatness. He has always been very vocal about how unique and special and great he believes MCR is. That he thinks MCR is the best band in the world. I fail to understand how this is surprising to any of you by now.
I've been an MCR fan for roughly five of the last six years and if you can't see a difference in the Gerard of today vs. the Gerard of LOTMS or the WSOU radio interview you must be blind (or perhaps just wearing blinders).
Yes, Gerard has always had faith in his band, and he has always done a lot of talking, but he never used to come off as arrogant anywhere else but onstage. I don't recall him ever making statements like, "there's not a lot of western music that's really speaking to me right now" or "MCR is the best band in the world. I mean, who's better than us?" in any interview prior to the summer of 2007.
In years past he made a point of talking up other bands he has toured with, including Thursday, TBS, Alkaline Trio, and even The Used. Now, when asked, he can't think of another band other than his own that he finds relevant?
Sorry, but unless you can produce an interview prior to 2007 where he acted like that, you're argument just doesn't hold up.
Another thing:
I wanted to point out that not everyone here resorts to using histrionics or hyperbole when discussing their feelings about Gerard and/or Lindsey.
I was the anon who made the post on July 5 @6:44 a.m. asking people to tone down the comments calling Lindsey a whore or bashing her looks.
Most of us here are reasonable people with valid points and concerns. Don't lump us all into one big Ger-Z hating basket and we won't lump you in with the "GER-Z 4EVA!1!11" BN fangirls.
noyadedumoineau said...
Save your tears for something that actually matters.
Who exactly are you to tell anyone what should or shouldn't matter to them?
Given the novelesque length of your comment, this issue obviously matters very much to you, so, you know...Pot. Kettle. Kettle. Pot.
Check out the rock that Lyn-Z wears in the new Metal Hammer online interview.
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