Thursday, August 19, 2010

Oh my God, I had a whole post typed out and Blogger crashed and deleted it without saving a draft.

I forgot most of what I wrote so I have to start over.

I notice some of you talking about Laura Slessinger and her use of the N- Bomb recently. I saw some of the fall-out from that in the news too. And it made me think about what gets said to a lot of you sometimes.

We see a lot of MSICR fans saying that MSICR have the first amendment right to use whatever language they want and we have no right to stop them. I think once even Lyn-Z made a comment about "Thank God for the first amendment" when talking about her band's lyrics.

But I have always thought, no one is TRYING to take away their right to use hate speech. We have the right to our opinion too when it comes to lyrics that are racist, homophobic and misogynist.

This article about Laura Slessinger and the first amendment said a lot of what needs to be said here too.

These are the parts I wanted to quote.

The First Amendment protects us from the government, and not from other Americans who disagree with what we have to say. “Congress shall make no law” — the first five words of the First Amendment — say it all: No government body can limit our rights to speak out. In this case, there’s no government action, just public outrage and pressure.

Boycotts are also protected by the First Amendment. Dr. Laura complains about being “bullied” by those who might pressure her radio affiliates or advertisers, but boycotts are a time-honored use of the First Amendment to address perceived wrongs and have played a role in virtually every social movement in American history.


But the whole article is really good.

MSICR are allowed to use hate speech in their lyrics. MSICR fans are allowed to listen to those lyrics and interpret them any way they want. They can think they are about something else, if they want to. You interpret things however it makes sense to you.

YOU are also allowed to hate those lyrics, take them at face value (which the bands themselves always say), and to boycott them if you want..... forever if that's what you want.

There will always be arguments as long as there are lyrics, tweets, concerts and interviews with that kind of speech. There will be disagreements no matter what. But disagreeing is NOT the same thing as squashing someone else's rights.

I really thought that article said it better than I could have.

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Anonymous said...

It doesn't make sense. Getting mad at Brian over his stance on getting a visa and laughing about Frank's wire hanger comment. I bet Brian he is glad he is out of all that mess.

I actually thought he went very overboard with some of his retaliation, but he has since apologized. The key fact for me is that they acted like animals waiting to pounce on him, because he'd blocked people earlier in the day for tweeting about MCR at him, which he's asked time and time again not to do. It's like they had this super grudge they were just waiting to unleash. I bet five bucks they'd have been more relaxed about his comments if he was still managing the band, but these girls are deluded and once you fall out of 'the inner circle' then it's open season on you.

I wish they could be so proactive in their opinions about Frank's disgusting opinions which he shows no shame for whatsoever.

Anonymous said...

Yes, what's funny is that Frank Iero could have made the exact same comment about this girl's visa and all of them (dstarpro and her gang) would have been all, "LOL! Aren't you funny!" They would have written it off as a joke.

Anonymous said...

How did you get that

So you would have no problem with handing Natty a visa without her going through the usual channels.

out of this?

Also, not all Americans are maniacally patriotic

Anonymous said...

7:37 AM, from what I can tell, this 'Nathy' and her friends seem to think she's victim of racism from the US authorites who are making the Visa application harder for her. I think that's why they all flipped out at Brian's comments, which were basically, do it the right way, or get a work permit, then you can stay as long as you like.

Anonymous said...

So you would have no problem with handing Natty a visa without her going through the usual channels.

Lol. I wasn't referring to the visa thing when I said what I said about all Americans not being maniacally patriotic. Whatever gave you that idea?

No, I would not hand this girl a visa without her going through proper channels. I wouldn't hand anyone a Visa without them going through proper channels. And I don't think it's at all inappropriate to expect people to have a job before they come here, unless they are full-time University students.

Anonymous said...

So in otherwords they were playing the victim card.

Anonymous said...

Jesus, if these girls think the USA's Visa policy is tough, they ought to try getting into Japan. That would be something to make them cry. I'm sorry immigration systems don't cater only for your stalkerish needs!

Anonymous said...

Basically, this Nathy is from a South American country which does not participate in the wavier system. She has no right to just assume she can come and go as she pleases within America. That is for an immigration officer to decide. Yeah, sometimes, people have to put up with something called red tape. It's called 'welcome to the adult, post 9/11 world, children'.

Anonymous said...

These girls don't understand your visa requirements are similar to most parts of the western world now.

Anonymous said...

Basically, America, like most developed countries, has a problem with people getting travel Visas valid for three months and then simply going missing as they work illegally within the country. It's sort of harsh, but there you go. Someone needs to assess if this girl, and hundreds of thousands of others like her, are a risk or not.

Or you know, maybe they're just RACIST and hate MCR so they're taking it out on their fans.

Anonymous said...

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/my_chemical_romance_launch_cryptic_website/

Anonymous said...

Or you know, maybe they're just RACIST and hate MCR so they're taking it out on their fans.

Lol, that's it. The immigration department is totally racist and totally anti-MCR. And all Americans (except MCR and their uber-fans like dstarpro) are XENOPHOBIC!!!

Anonymous said...

Lol, that seems to be the mindset of most MCR fans isn't it? How everyone is anti-MCR or racist or homophobes etc. Only when their idols show signs of it they are oblivious.

Anonymous said...

Boring 7:53.

Anonymous said...

The 1st 7:53

Anonymous said...

Seriously, who has the time or interest for all of this cryptic bullshit? People who have nothing better to do with their time than to try and figure out their stupid clues about their next shitty release are kind of pathetic.

This is one of the many reasons I despised the Black Parade. I wanted to say "Just release the record already and stop with the cryptic bullshit!"

This time I don't even care. I won't be buying it.

Anonymous said...

Isn't it clear that this is the only way to get people interested? MCR at least are aware they're fans are idiot teenies. They may as well pander to them and at least try and make some money. Gotta keep up the payments on those LA houses, right?

Anonymous said...

That's right. At least 2 of them have to support their ladies of leisure.

Anonymous said...

Why does anything even read what that dstarpro (what kind of name???) says anyway? she is just a fangrilish older woman or something. and she tries to cover up her hate by pretending to understand feminism to get in on those lynz/jessicka types. (yeah, i did read some of her stuff to catch up but i'm done, she gave me a headache). At least rose seems to be herself and kind of stand up for herself and make up her own mind. But I guess since she doesn't like MSI or MCR she should be drawn and quartered..or whatever those fans do. Any other bands have such creepy fans?

oh I did read some other things about Rose and I think she is doing okay since she got herself away from that S//C stuff. She has her own agenda in life and it doesn't seem to revolve around impressing band wives. And it seems like she supports everyone in here for their opinions so that is kinda cool, right? or I don't know. I like what you all have to say, it makes all of this seem silly because it is.

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, and I should say, that the cryptic MCR stuff from that last album is why I stopped really liking them. They really seemed to overact the whole thing for a not so great album. It was a waste of time.

Anonymous said...

People on fansites are flipping out trying to figure out the concept of the new record. Some are saying it's going to be a post-apocalyptic journey through a desert, etc. WTF? I thought Gerard said the world didn't need a "big story", only good rock songs (or some similar nonsense) in a magazine interview? Doesn't Gerard know they're already re-making Mad Max?

This band is crazy. Their fans are crazy. I'm so glad I'm away from all of the nonsense this time around. Thank God for growing up.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why they want to follow their wives cause they're bloody boring and have nothing to do with the band apart from being married to it's members.

Anonymous said...

I think Gerard has always been in love with Mad Max and dystopian themes.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why they want to follow their wives cause they're bloody boring and have nothing to do with the band apart from being married to it's members.

They think the wives are more accessible and that if they become friends with the wives, they'll become friends with the band. It's like the backdoor into the building I guess.

Anonymous said...

Ha. Like the wives really care that much for their fans.

Anonymous said...

It's like the backdoor into the building I guess.

I don't know. If I were one of the wives, I think I would be offended by this type of thing. I wouldn't want people to be using me as a means to get to my husband.

Or do you think the MCR wives in question are too stupid to realize what the fans are doing? Surely they don't really think these girls are interested in them?

Anonymous said...

Or do you think the MCR wives in question are too stupid to realize what the fans are doing?

Lol, yes. That's exactly what I think.

Anonymous said...

Think is the keyword there.
I know I wouldn't like being used like that if I was a wife.
I hope the wives can see through it and not open up much to their new friends the fans who OMG911!!111! love them so much and think they're so pretty and ZoMGaMAzInG

Anonymous said...

I'd be more concerned about the fans who would do that. Who would use the wives and family members of the band to try to get closer to the band.

Anonymous said...

Who would use the wives and family members of the band to try to get closer to the band.

The same kind of people who come to sites like this one and tell people they are fat and sexually repressed because they don't approve of everything the members of MCR do. The kind of people who wished death and rape and other horrible things on Verita when this blog first started out. The kind of people who make death threats to the owner of a restaurant who caters an event where the band members get food poisoning.

If I were one of the MCR wives, I'd be a little bit wary of my new "friends".

Anonymous said...

A little heads up about Rose, "She.Is.Anarchy" Do not trust her. She is a Double Agent. She is constantly tweeting Jessicka for an "interview" plus she interviewed Eliza who nobody could give a rat's ass about except for very obsessed MCR fans.

Can you smell the stalker?

Anonymous said...

"Double Agent." Lol.

Anonymous said...

Hi Dstarpro!

Anonymous said...

I smell the stalker, sure. In fact there are two stalkers. One's called Kellie, and one's called Nathy. And they're creepy Lyn-Z obsessed fangirls with no life outside MCR and their wives.

'Jog on' now.

Anonymous said...

I hope Lindsay sees the portrait of Frank that Kellie has tattooed on her forearm (when they finally track her down at this 'art show') and runs a mile. CREEEEPPPPYYY.

Anonymous said...

Which one of the loons is Kellie? I don't think I've heard of her before.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't look good for Nathy. She is the one that is butthurt because it is Brians fault that she can't get her visa.

Anonymous said...

She's someone from Skeleton Crew. She basically used to be obsessed with Frank (she has a tattoo of him on her forearm), but now she has moved onto stalking Lindsay Way.

Lynn said...

A little heads up about Rose, "She.Is.Anarchy" Do not trust her. She is a Double Agent. She is constantly tweeting Jessicka for an "interview" plus she interviewed Eliza who nobody could give a rat's ass about except for very obsessed MCR fans.

Can you smell the stalker?


So what? I don't care what she does. I don't care if anyone is a MCR fan (which she isn't) It is the one's like Dstarpro that come here and acts like defending MCR is going to get them some free tickets or sex or something.^_~

Anonymous said...

I don't give a shit about Rose "She.Is.Anarchy" or Dstarpro ! Why are they even here?

Rose interviewing Eliza is fucking fan-a-tic and stupid in my book.

Anonymous said...

I think it would be fascinating to interview Eliza. Not so much because she was engaged to Gerard (I don't care about him at all) but because she seems quite the character. I'm not saying I like her (I think she's kind of batshit) but I think it would be interesting to try and figure her crazy ass out.

Anonymous said...

I'd interview Gerard if given the chance. I'd like to ask him a bunch of random questions and see what kind of stupid, made-up answers he would come up with.

Anonymous said...

Or do you think the MCR wives in question are too stupid to realize what the fans are doing?

Lol, yes. That's exactly what I think.
.

Wow, they must be:

1) Really stupid or
2) Up their own ass

or both

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the art show 'scheduling conflict' has to do with the release of MCR's new album? I assume that Warner are the one's calling the shots when it comes to the release date and that they wouldn't take Gerard's wife's big art opening into consideration into their decision.

If so, I bet Mrs. Blah Blah is very unhappy about having to put her interests second to Mr. Blah Blah's.

Anonymous said...

oh I did read some other things about Rose and I think she is doing okay since she got herself away from that S//C stuff. She has her own agenda in life and it doesn't seem to revolve around impressing band wives. And it seems like she supports everyone in here for their opinions so that is kinda cool, right?

Rose was removed, she didn't remove herself & she's been pursuing LynZ like a dog. The only reason she supports anything here is because the band kicked her ass to the curb and she's bitter that she can't manipulate the fansheep like she used to.

Anonymous said...

Online groupies who can't get the band members in bed so they resort to chasing after the wives. What a wonderful thing to aspire to.

*shakes head*

Seriously, though. What is wrong with these people?

Anonymous said...

Have you taken a look at some of these bitches who come here defending the band? And they have the nerve to say we're fat?

Anonymous said...

So, it's crazy fruit-Loop Nathy here, a friend of mine saw it and sent me the link. I don't know if i should be laughing because you actually went to stalk me but anyway, i'd like to make some points here. Independent if I'm a 'stalker' like you're labelling me or not, yes, I applied for a tourist visa so I can go to United States visit friends and basically be a tourist.
I had been on United States twice, my visa expired in between this time. I don't know if any of you are from South America - and I assume that you're not -but it's pretty hard to get a visa here: it's extremely bureucratic and tiring and even if you fill the requirements, there are a few "off-records" things can get you denied. Being a woman, latin, around 20-45 years old and having no properties makes things even hard.

When he first tweeted about France's islamophobia, i partially agreed with him - i think the problem is France's government, not the french people or their culture, food or language and I told him that I believe it's a reflex of what happened after 9/11 and i said that partially, it's America's fault. Yeah, i told him about my visa thing and i told him that it's easier for american citizens to get visas to latin american countries (except Venezuela) and the opposite for latin american citizens to get it; i explained about the "woman/latin/age/job status" to him and he told me to get a job. It really made me mad - "having a job" isn't a requirement, what immigration agents ask and want from you is that you prove that you can sustain yourself while you're travelling, they want you to show them that you have no desire to stay. That's when an irish friend of mine got into the conversation and got a reply where he mentions the IRA.
Did he need to do that? Did he need to generalize, didn't he learn at school or in any other place that many families were destroyed by the IRA?
That's why i got pissed off and yes, I didn't like the name calling because i believe that people can have a discussion and understand/disagree without having to appeal to name calling. I am not butthurt at Brian because of the visa thing, i am upset because of his mentality, about the generalization he did, about how uneducated he is.

I read the comments before comment - and i'm ignoring the mcr stuff, you all have your opinion, i have mine, i'm not here because of them. I had Brian added to my twitter, I never asked anything about MCR to him - specially cause he always stated that he didn't want to talk about them and I always criticized when people kept asking him about it, so, don't assume that i was following him because of that, don't assume that me and Kellie are "wife stalkers" or keep with the assumptions that we are this or that.

Also, the Rose stuff: i wish all the best for her and i wish you all stop with the "let's dig at their lives because it's fun to know why they like this band/that person" or "they were like that in the past!" You don't actually don't know us, you actually don't talk to us to know who we are - i didn't make assumptions about you all based on what you write/wrote, so, it'd be nice if you stop assuming things about people JUST because they like a band that you don't.

Anonymous said...

I honestly don't care about you or your twitter, nathy. I commented earlier that I didn't understand why people read fans' twitters. I hate twitter myself.

However, I don't understand why you would get into a fight with Brian just because he made a comment you disagreed with -- especially since you and your cohorts continuously give us crap for disagreeing with Frank's tweets, even though we don't go to his twitter and pick fights with him over them.

I also don't understand why dstarpro thinks she has to get involved in other people's battles. She comes here and sticks her nose in where it doesn't belong and it seems she does the same thing on Brian's twitter.

I don't know anything about you and I don't care about your fight with Brian. However, I do agree with him that most French people are shitty and that they have some stupid ideas about Islam. Maybe he could have been more sympathetic to your plight, but he at least he didn't tell you that your mom should have aborted you.

Anonymous said...

Lol. Did you come here and post about your little fight with Brian so you could get more notoriety, Fruit Loop Nathy? Because I've never known anybody else to mention you before.

I don't care about you or your fight with Brian. I doubt that many other people here do either.

I do have to tell you that I agree with the people who have remarked how insane it is that you fangirls get so upset over something that Brian said that was fairly innocuous, yet you give Frank a free pass to say all kinds of offensive things. Why is that?

roftd said...

I also don't understand why dstarpro thinks she has to get involved in other people's battles. She comes here and sticks her nose in where it doesn't belong and it seems she does the same thing on Brian's twitter.

I don't follow Brian. I was simply questioning him because my friends were upset. You really don't know a thing about me and neither does Ms. Rose. She was a friend, but now she's just someone who likes to hurl daggers without much concern for where they land, a concept that some of you are undoubtedly familiar with.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'd like to continue on with the portion of my life that didn't include poisonous people any longer.

Feel free to lurk, rip MCR a new one, whatever it is you like to do here, but kindly leave my friends the fuck alone.

Anonymous said...

If Frank had said the exact same thing to nathy, she would have laughed it off.

Anonymous said...

Feel free to lurk, rip MCR a new one, whatever it is you like to do here, but kindly leave my friends the fuck alone.

I honestly think that you or nathy or one of your other friends is the very person who posted this whole business here in the first place, dstarpro. We've never made a point of following random fans' twitters.

Just how desperate are you and your pals for attention anyway?

Lynn said...

Feel free to lurk, rip MCR a new one, whatever it is you like to do here, but kindly leave my friends the fuck alone


Same to you. Yes we like to rip MCR a new one, just like you kiss ass or whatever it is you do over there.

Anonymous said...

Now if you'll excuse me, I'd like to continue on with the portion of my life that didn't include poisonous people any longer.

This must mean you're giving up following Frank, Gerard and the members of MSI?

Excellent!

Lynn said...

^ LOL! I'm glad she finally decided to see the light!

Anonymous said...

I like that she gave us all permission to stay here and talk. "Feel free"...thank you for the permission dstarpro. oh and what happens if we don't leave your friends alone? will you grace us with more of your intellectually stimulating conversation here?

We don't care about you or your friends, we can't help they put themselves in the line of fire.

Someone has a serious napoleon complex! I wonder if dstarpro is short?

Anonymous said...

I take that back, I don't care if she is short. I don't care about anything she does.

Anyone seen any good movies lately?

Anonymous said...

oh and what happens if we don't leave your friends alone? will you grace us with more of your intellectually stimulating conversation here?


I remember when she came in here and started throwing the word FUCK in here to get her point across. It went something like this "You fuckers are the fuckiest fuckers i have fucking ever seen. LOL!

Lynn said...

^Lynn :)

Anonymous said...

"You fuckers are the fuckiest fuckers i have fucking ever seen. LOL!

Like the mental midgets who are mindlessly mesmerized by MCR?

Anonymous said...

Someone has a serious napoleon complex! I wonder if dstarpro is short?

Her new best buddy Jessicka Adams must have loaned hers out to her.

Anonymous said...

Chantel Claret: @juliavickerman @EBPearce I have a 1 year old staying at our house so we've been watching nonstop Yo Gabba Gabba!

Anonymous said...

Wonder who that 1 year could be?

Anonymous said...

Most likely Steve Righ?s kid.

Anonymous said...

I remember when Rose quit S//C. I don't think she ever worked for MCR. I used to talk to her a lot back then and still see her on occasion. So I really don't think she was "kicked to the curb" by the band. From what I know she still sees friends of the band and knows people involved with them and is still working with other bands. I doubt she is stalking anyone. Why do people have to pick on her? She has nothing to do with anything. Who cares? I never had a problem with her, she never seems to be nearly as nasty as dstarpro and honestly what does any of that have to do with anything.

Fuck them.

Let's get back to the fans who are siting day and night on a website waiting for a miracle to happen like MCR are some sort of Moses characters about to deliver their latest version of the ten commandements.

That is much more interesting. Have you seen this?

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/my_chemical_romance_launch_cryptic_website/

Yah...

Anonymous said...

Boring...zzzzz

Anonymous said...

I feel for the poor kids (and 40 year old housewives) who are trying to "crack the code" of the new website. I mean, what do they expect to get out of it? Maybe a secret show or something? Big deal. They get to hear Gerard screeching and getting out of breath... in person! Although I can't really see them doing a whole show of new material because how would he be able to point the microphone at the audience to get them to sing when he's out of breath when they don't know the lyrics?

Anonymous said...

Lol, MCR are so transparent. They're using sock puppets again on that AP website. Do people really think they have 13 year old girls who can decipher those frequencies? Tallicadude and Dubtown, is that you?

Anonymous said...

I have to wonder who these people are that are bothering. Do they really think this band is so clever and smart to create some kind of seriously intricate and deep meaningful code? They have nothing to do with this. It's their corporate label using their fans as puppets to get more money out of an album that won't be worth half of what these kids (and 40 year old housewives) will pay for it.

Anonymous said...

Do they really think this band is so clever and smart to create some kind of seriously intricate and deep meaningful code? They have nothing to do with this. It's their corporate label using their fans as puppets to get more money

Exactly. And some people will be taken in, but I'm guessing that a lot of people will be put off the same way I was with all the stupid "What is the Black Parade" nonsense back in 06. I remember listening to that record the night they streamed it on their website and it just didn't live up to all the hype. It was a disappointment right from the start and the beginning of the end of MCR for me.

Anonymous said...

Lol, MCR are so transparent. They're using sock puppets again on that AP website. Do people really think they have 13 year old girls who can decipher those frequencies? Tallicadude and Dubtown, is that you?

Hahahah, THIS! I knew it was fake when they said the 30 second intro they'd manage to clean up was 'some of the most sonically rich music they'd ever heard'. I mean, LOL. Be more blatant, Warner.

Anonymous said...

Hi nathy! Good to see you lurking. I guess now you hate racists and mean people, you must hate Frank too, right? After all, he's done and said much worse things than Brian has.

But wait, you want to fuck Frank, don't you? Oh well, I guess that makes it alright for him to be cruel and call people names.

Anonymous said...

LOL! Yeah wanting to fuck the guy changes everything. But then what about how she is friends with dstarpro as well who comes in here ranting about name calling and such but then does nothing but call people names on her Twitter? Nathy must just like living in the land of lies and hot sexy greaseball rockstars and 40 year old housewives.

Defend MCR to the end! Afterall, they have saved so many lives. They deserve to make a lot of money off of the stupid.

Anonymous said...

Cruelty, rudeness, name-calling, misogyny and stalking are the new caring about society.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe one of you idiots had the nerve to go post your theory about industry puppets on the ap website. I thought you never went to the fansites with your hate. Liars.

Anonymous said...

Hey, calling out the sock puppets isn't hate. It's calling out sock puppets. You don't really think MCR fans hace access to computers at Power Plants, do you?

Anonymous said...

I don't see the sock puppet comment. Did it get deleted?

Anonymous said...

One of the sample sets of the HRTB was 929.09hz in +9.36hz increments. That’s exactly the close for the Thai Stock Exchange index on Friday 9/3/2010 = close 929.09 baht up +9.36 baht. The abbreviations for Thai stock exchange is SET (stock exchange of thailand) and the index is called SETI. As soon as we saw “SETI”, we knew we had to try the tones.

Yep, totally just your average teenage MCR fan. I buy it!

Anonymous said...

I don't see the sock puppet comment. Did it get deleted?

Oh wait. You have to sort the comments by newest first, otherwise it shows the "most popular" comments. In other words, the sock puppets. How convenient for them.

Anonymous said...

Lol, I just hit "LIKE" on the sock puppet comment and it moved it to the top! Yay!

Anonymous said...

Yep, totally just your average teenage MCR fan. I buy it!

Me too. *rolls eyes*

I wonder though. Could this just be a troll who is giving MCR fans the run-around? That would be even funnier.

Anonymous said...

I love the fact that they're telling everyone Big Brother called them up and told them to stop decoding the samples. Pffft. Right. Nice one, Warner.

Anonymous said...

Ahahah, that's perfect. Nathy, you are a hypocritical tool, and I claim my five bucks.

Anonymous said...

Someone's deleting comments.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I saw that comment too and was just about to say that it was too funny, but then I refreshed and it disappeared. :/

Anonymous said...

Well well well. I guess we hit a nerve.

Anonymous said...

Love them or hate them, you have to admit that this is the way to publicize the release of a new record.

It's straight-forward, with no bullshit. The video with the band talking about the new single is really cute.

Anonymous said...

What got deleted?

Anonymous said...

Someone took Nathy's comment about why she hates Brian and replaced all the stuff about Brian with Frank and all the Visa/France/IRA stuff with the N word tweets and the abortion jokes. It was pretty funny, because it made her look like a total hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

It was an anon comment wasn't it? Maybe Blogger ate it?

Anonymous said...

It got posted twice in error. I don't think both would go. I think one of the fansheep is logged in and reported it for the N word quote. Easy way to get it quickly deleted.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps one of you geniuses here at this blog full of racism experts can clear up for me how it is not racist for that Kings of Leon band to be using all black children in their music video. This to me seems as they are exploiting these children. What if MCR did this or MSI? You would find a problem with that wouldn't you? You are the same kind of hypocrites you accuse us of being.

Anonymous said...

LOL are you serious? KOL aren't running round calling people the N word.

Anonymous said...

Still waiting for one of you to tell me why it's okay for Frank to be mean over twitter, but not anyone else.

Anonymous said...

This to me seems as they are exploiting these children.

Wait, what? They are using a black gospel choir in the video for their first single and you call that "exploiting" black children?

WTF are you smoking?

Anonymous said...

This is logic from the people who find abortion jokes funny.

Anonymous said...

Oh man, you are a hilarious troll. I'll give you that!

Anonymous said...

KOL are a Southern band. They're using gospel music respecfully as a nod to their Southern culture. Frank uses old racial slurs to try and be 'edgy'. Big difference

Anonymous said...

Still waiting for one of you to tell me why it's okay for Frank to be mean over twitter, but not anyone else.

It's okay because Frank is hot. And cute. And little. And he just had twins. And because they want to fuck him.

Anonymous said...

Dstarpro, you really are a lost cause.

Anonymous said...

We're not 'experts' in anything, sweetpea. We just know how to spot a racist tool like Frank Iero when we see one.

Go read a book, because your stupid is blinding.

Anonymous said...

For the anon who questioned KOL's motives for using a black gospel choir:

Rock n roll has its roots in Black Gospel music. Why on earth would KOL not use a Black gospel choir? I think it's perfectly appropriate.

Of course if Jimmy Urine did it, he'd probably make jokes on his twitter about how he paid them in watermelon and fried chicken. Now that would be racist.

Anonymous said...

Of course if Jimmy Urine did it, he'd probably make jokes on his twitter about how he paid them in watermelon and fried chicken. Now that would be racist.

That sounds exactly like the kind of "humor" Frank Iero would find hilarious.

Anonymous said...

It's not half obvious that DR D. Defying is Gerard.

Anonymous said...

I haven't looked at any of those twitter accounts that are supposedly connected to the new record. I honestly don't care what kind of stupid game they're playing this time around. I doubt I'll even give the new record a listen no matter what.

Anonymous said...

I don't see anything romantic about a post-apocalyptic world.

Did anybody read The Road by Cormac McCarthy? So depressing. Beautifully written, but still. So fucking depressing.

Leave it to Gerard to think that such an existence would be fun.

Anonymous said...

hey guys,

so i'm not here to explain things or do anything other than to say...i agree with the person who stated i'm not worth talking about. i'm really not. i'm just doing my thing and trying to move on. i have supported you guys here but now someone who i've had a recent disagreement with has been saying i'm making some really nasty comments on here about them and i'm not...i don't post here all that much or anonymously so they are mixing me up with someone else and now i'm getting threatened. one of them said she was angry and she's taking this fucker down with her. i mean she could just be blowing smoke but i honestly don't want any trouble. so anyroad, yeah...i'm kind of nervous and i'm going to just get back to my shit and not bother anyone here anymore or anywhere because i don't need to be bullied or threatened. you guys have been great to talk to here. sorry if i've said anything or pissed anyone off. i never tried to do that here. i'm just kind of worried about the threats now. its kind of creepy to me.

Lynn said...

I'm sorry you are getting threats. I don't think it was you that made those comments here and i'm betting those guys over there really don't either. They are just trying to use that to get dirt on you. Keep you head up and maybe it is a good thing that they are out of you life. I will be wearing a team Rose shirt,that is for sure!

Anonymous said...

I'm not surprised that you're getting threats. It happened to me to at one point, back when I was on lj. I said some stuff that I had heard about Gerard from a very reliable source and suddenly the fandom turned against me.

I don't think these people can do anything to you, but you never know. I've been anonymous ever since.

Anyway, good luck and keep on fighting the good fight, Rose.

Anonymous said...

One has to wonder what kind of people are in this band if they inspire their fans to threaten one another and make them feel unsafe.

Lynn said...

This was taken of a certain visitor's twitter. This is how crazy they can be. MCR would be sooo proud of their fans.


http://www.defamer.com.au/2010/03/josh-thomas-opens-up-about-twitter-his-love-life-and-his-mysterious-accent/

Anonymous said...

MCR does seem to draw out the unstable crowd, don't they? I wonder if the guys in the band ever worry about their own safety, what with the level of crazy that exists amongst their own fans.

Leonardo DiCaprio recently had to get a restraining order against a delusional 41 year old Chicago woman who thinks she's married to him and carrying his child, Jesus.

With all the crazies who follow MCR around, I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of thing happened to them.

Anonymous said...

”And I’m amazed at how many of them claim that Gerard Way saved their life. Maybe he used to be a paramedic but I’m pretty sure he’s just a douche who writes emo rock songs.”


Well said Mr. Thomas.

Anonymous said...

I think Warner and MCR's new MGMT / promo team are bwilliant, wascally wabbits.

Kudos to them.

The chase is on and the hunt is off to a fantastical start.

The only question is
How many countries will MRC's new cd debut at #1 in?

3? 4? 5? 6?

Anonymous said...

Don't know much about fandoms do you 7:02?

Anonymous said...

Some of you clearly have never been to a Metallica fan forum, or concert. If you do not make the effort to "fit in" with the general thought process, style, or vocabulary, you can seriously get your ass kicked. You can get your ass kicked anyway. Fans are brutal in every genre. Don't assume teenagers have the foothold on the crazy. Venture out, you'll see.

Anonymous said...

I think Warner and MCR's new MGMT / promo team are bwilliant, wascally wabbits.

Kudos to them.

The chase is on and the hunt is off to a fantastical start.

The only question is
How many countries will MRC's new cd debut at #1 in?

3? 4? 5? 6?



None

Anonymous said...

Lovely to see Zoid Way supporting her man, I mean 'Dr Death Defying'.

Anonymous said...

Don't know much about fandoms do you 7:02?

I know that MCR is one of the few bands whose fans come out in force to attack people on other forums who talk shit about the band. They go out of their way to find negative things about the band, whereas other fans tend to ignore people who don't like their idols.

To me, this is a unique brand of crazy.

I also think that MCR draws more unstable fans than the norm. That much is obvious when you go to one of their shows or visit one of their fansites.

Oh, and I get out quite a lot. I've been going to shows for over 20 years. Lol.

Anonymous said...

Some of you clearly have never been to a Metallica fan forum, or concert.


I think Warner and MCR's new MGMT / promo team are bwilliant, wascally wabbits.

Kudos to them.

The chase is on and the hunt is off to a fantastical start.



Is that you, tallicadude?

Not so brilliant, actually. I think the people deciphering the SETI code are taking things a bit too far.

LMFAO.

Anonymous said...

This whole scavenger hunt thing smacks of desperation to me. I suppose the band/Warner doesn't have enough faith in MCR to let the music stand on its own so they have to resort to these idiotic games.

Anonymous said...

What are they supposed to be finding?

Anonymous said...

They(the fans)

Anonymous said...

Tallicadude must be desperate to hock that album if he has to come here of all places.

Anonymous said...

Whatever the purpose, at least the band is engaging with their fans again. Wheither it be through "sock puppets," or not, at least the band is doing something interesting. Not a lot of bands can be that creative with their promo. You need to lighten up. Random behavior from random people, that doesn't affect you, shouldn't make you that put out. It's just promotional tools, 3:18 and on. And, I don't know what band's fans you have spent time with over the last 20 years, but there are scary fucks in every corner of fandom I have encountered. MCR isn't so special they get all the crazies. But, reading here might make you think so. ;)

Anonymous said...

Whatever the purpose, at least the band is engaging with their fans again.


Yeah. So they can sell their album.

silvia said...

I'd appreciate more them to be nice with fans than all these "surprises" made for money.

Anonymous said...

Yeah. So they can sell their album.

Exactly. All bands are nicey nicey when they need to sell their album, then when they think they don't need their fans they can label them very very mean and fat!

Anonymous said...

Warner will have to muzzle Frank Iero for a while.

Anonymous said...

Exactly. All bands are nicey nicey when they need to sell their album, then when they think they don't need their fans they can label them very very mean and fat!



Or flog their art.

Anonymous said...

I also think that MCR draws more unstable fans than the norm. That much is obvious when you go to one of their shows or visit one of their fansites.



lulz
rofl

Anonymous said...

I don't know what band's fans you have spent time with over the last 20 years,

I'm thinking it was Hanson, NKOTB, BSB, JT, The Spice Girls


but there are scary fucks in every corner of fandom I have encountered. MCR isn't so special they get all the crazies

QFT^

Anonymous said...

I also think that MCR draws more unstable fans than the norm. That much is obvious when you go to one of their shows or visit one of their fansites.

lulz
rofl


Or read the link that Lynn posted:

http://www.defamer.com.au/2010/03/josh-thomas-opens-up-about-twitter-his-love-life-and-his-mysterious-accent/


I wouldn't be laughing quite so hard if I were you, considering that the evidence is posted on this very page.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I don't know what band's fans you have spent time with over the last 20 years,

I'm thinking it was Hanson, NKOTB, BSB, JT, The Spice Girls


but there are scary fucks in every corner of fandom I have encountered. MCR isn't so special they get all the crazies

QFT^

September 7, 2010 6:08 AM



I agree.

Anonymous said...

MCR draws more unstable fans than the norm.



You know, that could work as a marketing ploy.

MCR
the band with the most unstable fans in the universe!


Those tshirts would go like hot cakes at hot topic.

Anonymous said...

Why would I want to read anything a man who opens up about his love life on twitter has to say.

Isn't that one of the things you criticize Gerard Way for doing.

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking it was Hanson, NKOTB, BSB, JT, The Spice Girls

Lol! MCR is the emo Hansen give or take a few.

Anonymous said...

Why would I want to read anything a man who opens up about his love life on twitter has to say.

I think you mean to say, "Why would I want to read anything that talks about how batshit MCR stans are when I'm one myself?"

Anonymous said...

lulz

That Josh Thomas sounds like a whiney little emo bitch.

MCR's little emo fans scared him and forced him to delete his twitter. Poor thing.

That or he's using the twitter experience with MCR's fans to try and further his own career.

Anonymous said...

Yup I agree with 6:30, MCR are the Jersey Spice Boys.

Anonymous said...

Maybe he wanted to leave the MCR loons to tweet MCR.

Anonymous said...

Grow a pair Josh Thomas. You can take those little emo girls you offended.



Only not. Obviously.

Anonymous said...

Hansen:

Mmm bop, ba du ba dop
Ba du ba dop, Du be du ba du be dop
Du be dop, ah, doo. Yeah,



MCR

Na na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na sunshine

Anonymous said...

Must have been the tweet from dstarpro that turned Joss Thomas right off!

Anonymous said...

dstarpro caused Josh Thomas to piss his pants and delete his twitter? It wasn't all the little emo girls that ran him off.

He's more pathetic than that link makes him out to be.

Anonymous said...

That or he's using the twitter experience with MCR's fans to try and further his own career.

LOL. More like running it to the ground.

Anonymous said...

Ooooooooooooo aren't you scared now?

Anonymous said...

MCR's fans really are a lot like the Hansen fans used to be.

Or maybe like Justin Bieber's fans. My little sister is into him right now and from what she tells me they're all kind of nuts.

I think it's the bands/artists who appeal to very young teen girls who get the scaries fans.

Anonymous said...

*scariest

Anonymous said...

I think it's the bands/artists who appeal to very young teen girls who get the scaries fans.



And middle-aged women

Anonymous said...

G Way is nearly middle aged himself so all those women don't need to feel so bad.

Anonymous said...

G Way is nearly middle aged himself so all those women don't need to feel so bad.

Yeah and just think, once MCR is washed up he can always make a career for himself playing in Vegas like David Cassidy did. Right?

Anonymous said...

MCR fans trying to decipher the "codes" makes me LOL. I read the Alt-press comment section and noticed that most (if not all) of 'theorists' there are just teenagers, who try to look smart with their wikipedia links and stuff. I hope soon they realize that the 'codes' those three "cryptic" twitter accounts posted are just some random scientific images, they have nothing to be decode!

Plus, what's the point playing this stupid game anyway? This is not national treasure or some conspiracy theory needs to be broken. Its not like somebody gonna win a million dollar if they get the code right. Plus, MCR is probably laughing their asses off at those poor kids.

Anonymous said...

You sound a little bitter there, 9:37AM. And a little young.

Anonymous said...

You sound a little bitter there, 9:37AM. And a little young.

Really? I just thought they sounded realistic.

I remember the What is the Black Parade hoopla and I also remember that a lot of fans were disappointed that it just turned out to be the name of the new record.

I think that many young fans will be disappointed if there isn't some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, so to speak. They tend to build these things up in their minds and then can't help but be disappointed.

Anonymous said...

11:37 sounds rather gullible.

Anonymous said...

*11:17, I meant to say.

Anonymous said...

This treasure hunt won't lead them anywhere.

9.37 am said...

11.17 : Um yeah, I am 'a little young' if you're one of those 40-year-old "MCR FOr LyFe!11" housewives.

Anonymous said...

I think that many young fans will be disappointed if there isn't some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, so to speak

The most that the fans will get out of that mindfuck is a release date.

kapunua said...

DEAR JGL ANON and others.

^______^

Okay, not half as threatening as when Leto does it. This kid somehow makes it ridiculously cute. Not sure how I feel right now, haha.

ENJOY!

kapunua said...

And anyone with with basic French is going to be in fits of giggles.

Anonymous said...

Could he possibly be any more adorable?

No. I don't think so.

Anonymous said...

Why do you assume or imply, that because someone is disagreeing with you, they are automatically from Mayo's group? That is really pathetic, 9:37. And I'm not 40 or a housewife, I'm 29. I just think your opinion against the teen fan's is crap and narrow-minded. All bands, actors, senators, people in the public eye, have crazy people following (and standing up for, in their opinion) them. You let this get to you far too much. Who cares what the kids do. Or MCR for that matter. This is just a blog, to discuss. Remember? Don't be so defensive. Unless you're going to let those crazy fans do the same. Otherwise, you're just being a hypocrite. And that's nothing to be so arrogant about.

Anonymous said...

Kapunua I thoroughly enjoyed that clip! Man, I love that song and Gaga. I also love how so many other entertainers are putting out their versions which proves the song's modern day appeal.

Anonymous said...

Um, not 9:37, but you were doing the same thing you accuse 9:37 of doing when you made the comment about her being "young".

Also I don't think Mayo's has a monopoly on the over 40 set when it comes to MCR fans.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree 2:03 in a way that anyone can have crazy people following them.

I think the difference with MCR is that the more fanatical MCR fans are more inclined to be vocal in their support of the band and openly attack other people and their point of view on sites that are outside their usual forums.

Anonymous said...

I love what JGL is doing with his hitRECord project. I think it's great that he involves all kinds of people and allows them to participate in the creative process. He seems to be having a blast with it.

Anonymous said...

Guys, can we lay off the age play? I don't care if someone is 15, or 25, or even 55 for that matter, everyone is free to have their own opinion. Just because someone has different opinion that you are doesn't mean they're "young" or "immature" .

Anonymous said...

Guys, can we lay off the age play? I don't care if someone is 15, or 25, or even 55 for that matter, everyone is free to have their own opinion. Just because someone has different opinion that you are doesn't mean they're "young" or "immature" .

Seconded.

I'm one of the older people who comes here and I cringe every time somebody uses the term 40 year old housewife.

I'm far from being a housewife and I've been going to concerts for longer than some of you were born. That doesn't make my opinion any more or less valid than anybody else's. Same goes for the younger posters here.

And just because I'm over 40 doesn't mean I come from Mayo's. I do not.

Anonymous said...

Can't all of you just leave MCR alone while they're getting ready to release this new record?

It seems like they put so much work and effort into it. Gerard seems like he's always so proud of his work and he just wants to create something good that will touch people. I think he has a good heart and he just wants people to see how creative he is. He wants to make people happy with his music. There's nothing wrong with that.

Maybe he made some mistakes and maybe he got mixed in with the wrong people, but he hasn't been promoting MSI anymore and it looks like maybe Lindsey is even done with them now she's into her art. Maybe Gerard made a positive change in her life and now that she's a mother she realizes MSI was no good. People can change.

Please don't ruin this new album for Gerard and the rest of the boys. I think it means the world to them. I know it means the world to me. Just give MCR a chance to prove they're the people I know they can be. Have a little faith. What can it hurt?

Anonymous said...

Wow, it appears all those fans were waiting for was a re-done web page and a blog from Frank saying the album was done. (Didn't they say the same thing in the spring?)

Anonymous said...

Oh, I'm so sure they took the tv display with the SETI codes down because those geniuses on AP were getting too close to deciphering it. ;P

Anonymous said...

Fans are already expressing disappointment. That is, until they get their dressing down by the sheep who will tell them they're acting "entitled" and that the band "doesn't owe them anything." LMFAO

not jgl anon said...

ENJOY!

I smiled all the way through that! Thanks for posting the link. :)

Anonymous said...

Some of you have serious issues with 40 year old housewives.

Do your mums know about these issue you have with them?

Anonymous said...

How is MCR fans getting excited about the new cd and fangirling about it any different from people here getting excited and fangirling about JGL or another celebrity?



What's the difference? Why are some fangirls mocked and laughed at others not.

Valid explanations? Any.

kapunua said...


Please don't ruin this new album for Gerard and the rest of the boys. I think it means the world to them. I know it means the world to me. Just give MCR a chance to prove they're the people I know they can be. Have a little faith. What can it hurt?


Awww, are we hurting poor widdle MCR's fee-fees? Come on, they don't even know about this place. And if they did, they'd treat it in the same way they treat everything else they come in contact with: Arrogance.

Because that's what MCR is about. Not pride, but arrogance.

I love what JGL is doing with his hitRECord project. I think it's great that he involves all kinds of people and allows them to participate in the creative process. He seems to be having a blast with it.

It does look like tons of fun, and I sent the link to some of my musician friends and family. He cuts a fair deal for people he works with too.

And, yeah, I love this kid.

He's no Leto on vocals, but then, who is. ;D

Lynn said...

Housewife is a term used to describe a married female who is not employed outside of the home. Merriam Webster describes a housewife as a married woman who is in charge of her household


I like the Merriam Webster's definiton alot better! I have been married 25 yrs and i never thought of myself as a "housewife" I'm also in my 40's and i work and that word never popped up in describing or thinking about myself that way. I'm a mother and i have a husband but i do have a life outside my "house." I think that the term "housewife" went out with June Cleaver.

kapunua said...

Maybe because we fangirls don't go around seeking fights, crying and whining when someone doesn't think our favorite bands are crap, calling rude names, holding public demonstrations about why it's so wrooooong to hurt our babies' feewings, and generally acting like psychos when someone doesn't share the love we have for a certain performer.

You might not be one of the Mayo people, but allow me to remind you that they were total freaks, and a lot of the problems they went out of their way to cause *me* were because of my feelings on their beloved band.

It's out of perspective. No performer--no one who's not in your life--should mean so much to you that you're willing to hurt other people just because they don't like your favorite.

And it's not just Mayo's where that happened. If I'm skimming here correctly, it seems as if everywhere MCR uberfans gather, they're acting the same way.

I don't go around to blogs of people who dislike my favorite bands or actors (and they do exist,) whining about "WHYYYY WHYYYYY OH WHY CAN'T YOU LEAVE THEM ALOOOOOONE?!" and acting all et up with the cray-cray.

I guess there's your difference.

kapunua said...

Oh, that was in answer to 7:23. :)

Anonymous said...

He's no Leto on vocals, but then, who is. ;D


Certainly not Gerard :)

Anonymous said...

Any explanations about why some fangirling is acceptable and MCR or MSI fangirling is mocked? Regardless of the age or maritial status of the people doing the fangirling.

Lynn said...

Any explanations about why some fangirling is acceptable and MCR or MSI fangirling is mocked? Regardless of the age or maritial status of the people doing the fangirling.

I think Kapunua just answered that.

Anonymous said...

Valid explanations.

Anonymous said...

None of you have ever gone to another site to mock MCR fans? Never mocked those fans anywhere else?

None of you. Ever. Rly?

kapunua said...

I can't speak for anyone else. If some others have, then how does that make them a "fangirl?" Doesn't it really just make them someone who pushes fangirls' buttons? If you think about it.

And I've sure never repeatedly attacked people who didn't like the bands I liked. Jesus, what's the point? Why do you take it so personally? That's exactly what I mean by lacking perspective.

And you, anon? Why are you here?

Anonymous said...

"When I was in high school, I loved smoking weed. I loved it. But I cut myself to once a month. That was my rule. And so as the first of the month came closer, my friends would be like, ‘All right, what’s the plan this weekend?’ and actually it’s really cool—when you do it that infrequently, you can really trip. In hindsight, could I have smoked weed on the weekends? Yeah. But it was cool to do it once a month. I still do that sometimes—I go on little weedfests. I’m a pothead. That’s my drug of choice."

Joseph Gordon Levitt. Your idol.

kapunua said...

First, my idol is Dana Scully. :)

Second, oh wow, I so much do not care what other people do in their spare time.

An it harm none, if you get me.

Anonymous said...

JGL should hang with Frank. I think they'd get on good.;)

Anonymous said...

Maybe he made some mistakes and maybe he got mixed in with the wrong people, but he hasn't been promoting MSI anymore and it looks like maybe Lindsey is even done with them now she's into her art. Maybe Gerard made a positive change in her life and now that she's a mother she realizes MSI was no good. People can change.

A leopard never changes it's spots. If she's has left MSI it won't be because of some epiphany she's had, it would most likely be to be taken a bit more seriously because as it stands she is a joke and the only ones who fawn on her are Gerard's fans. MSI fans don't even like her.

Anonymous said...

Please don't ruin this new album for Gerard and the rest of the boys. I think it means the world to them. I know it means the world to me. Just give MCR a chance to prove they're the people I know they can be. Have a little faith. What can it hurt?

LMAO. I wouldn't feel sorry for them. This is a group of people who are essentially very fortunate and living a comfortable life.

Anonymous said...

Don't spoil it for Gerard and co. They need to sell their music.

Anonymous said...

It seems like they put so much work and effort into it. Gerard seems like he's always so proud of his work and he just wants to create something good that will touch people.

Aren't us mere mortals so privileged.

Anonymous said...

None of you have ever gone to another site to mock MCR fans? Never mocked those fans anywhere else?

None of you. Ever. Rly?


Prove it was someone from here otherwise you're just shit-stirring. Do you really believe any one who laughs at this band, their stupidity and their idiot wives is just restricted to this blog?

Anonymous said...

Please don't ruin this new album for Gerard and the rest of the boys. I think it means the world to them. I know it means the world to me.


Though it may mean the world to you, how exactly would you know what it means to them? I would have thought it means one thing for them : money, loads of money, if it sells. Another thing: I didn't know this blog had the power to ruin their album, that's something I thought they could only do themselves. Which brings me to another point, why would you even think that anyone on this blog would be seriously interested in this record which is basically his futuristic Taj Mahal album for LynZ?

Anonymous said...

Which brings me to another point, why would you even think that anyone on this blog would be seriously interested in this record which is basically his futuristic Taj Mahal album for LynZ?

You've been talking about the band, their wives, records and anything to do with them non-stop for three years! Why wouldn't someone think you were interested? I come here to get news about the band because I know you are all searching the web day in and day out for anything about them. This place is far better for news than any fansite. Thanks for looking for me so I don't have to do it myself.

Anonymous said...

Lol, if you really want to read some MCR "hate", go to some video game blogs and read what video game players are saying about the Pre-order bonus packs for Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock, which includes an MCR guitar strap.

There's a lot of "I hate MCR" "MCR sucks" "Guitar Hero is catering to kids" and "Why didn't they use a real rock band?" type comments. And guess what? These comments come from guys who play video games. I doubt they've ever heard of Veritavenom.

Now, why don't you MCR fans run along and go seek out those sites and tell those guys to "get a life" and "stop being so obssessed" and "zomg, ur jus jelluz" and all those other stupid things you come here to say to us?

Oh wait. I know. Because you know they would just laugh their asses off at you. Right?

Anonymous said...

I would have thought it means one thing for them : money, loads of money, if it sells.


2 cents profit for every 10000 albums sold after they pay the producer, studio musicians, techs, management, pay back the label for studio costs and pay for video production.
That's loads of money they're making.

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