What do you guys think of Jay-Z's recent announcement?
Jay-Z has vowed to never use derogatory terms for women in his music again following the birth of his daughter, Blue Ivy Carter.
The rapper, who welcomed his first child with wife Beyoncé last weekend, has stated in a poem to celebrate the birth of baby Blue Ivy that he will drop the use of 'b*tch' - revealing that his degradation of women in his songs "has passed."
"Before I got in the game, made a change, and got rich/ I didn't think hard about using the word b*tch/ I rapped, I flipped it, I sold it, I lived it/ Now with my daughter in this world I curse those that give it. I never realized while on the fast track that I’d give riddance to the word bitch, to leave her innocence in tact."
The hip-hop icon continued:
"No man will degrade her, or call her name. I'm so focused on your future, the degradation has passed. I wish you wealth, health and insight. Forever young you may pass. Blue Ivy Carter, my angel."
I personally think of this as a start, but only that. He still has a lot of work to do. We see this with men a lot. They have a daughter and all of a sudden they don't like to see women degraded. There are two problems I see with this immediately.
One: Didn't his wife count as a woman who shouldn't be degraded? Or wasn't she "innocent" enough? He seemed to think it was all right for "non-innocent" women to be degraded.
And OK fine, it is good that he can see it from a different perspective now that he has a daughter and maybe he will extend this feeling to all women. I hope so. I hope he can continue to learn.
But the second problem is that it is still about HIM. It took him personally experiencing the feeling of "this is too close to me now and I don't want it to happen" in order for him to change.
Or as another anonymous commenter said on this blog,
I don't understand, Why does something dramatic have to happen in someone's life before they decide "Oh, yeah I gotta stop being this way because I don't want some one to mess with mine in the future."
Men should respect women not because the disrespect upsets men, but because it oppresses women. At least that is what I believe in cases like that.
However I still want to say that it is a good start and in my own opinion, if he continues to learn more about oppression and misogyny, then maybe he will come to realize this. I have hope.
We didn't hear a word like this from Gerard Way, Lindsey Way, or Frank Iero when they had daughters. Not one of them came forward and said "I never thought about how women were treated until I had a daughter, now I think I'll stop degrading them." So also in my opinion, Jay-Z is way ahead of them. MSI and MCR are still in the dark ages.
Also, I wish all of you a happy and healthy new year and the best of luck in 2012.
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>It's kinda sweet seeing a man get all mushy about having a son.
It is. No kinda about it. It's sweet seeing a man get mushy and gushy about having a baby regardless of the sex but there is a special pride in a man having a son. Someone to carry the family name into the future. Like there's a special protectiveness with a father toward his daughter.
Talking about birthdays happy birthday Vivienne Westwood. A true punk in all sense of the word.
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A true punk who pays her taxes instead of going to jail.
http://www.fashionunited.co.uk/fashion-news/fashion/vivienne-westwood-in-tax-controversy-2011083012865
It's sweet seeing a man get mushy and gushy about having a baby regardless of the sex but there is a special pride in a man having a son. Someone to carry the family name into the future. Like there's a special protectiveness with a father toward his daughter.
Typical patriarchial bullshit. Carry on the family name. Pffft. And boy babies need just as much protecting as girl babies do.
Did you miss the point 7:10? It wasn't about changing someone's taste in music, it was how someone(3:55)was referring to mediocrity about particular styles, namely popular styles, of music.
No, I didn't miss the original point, but obviously, you're now trying to change it.
Are you denying that these comments, "Did Forbes ever write about the emo scene? Did any pop punk act sell 20,000 tickets in 9 minutes flat?," were intended to imply that popularity or attention from some business magazine makes one musical genre than another? Or did you lose track of the conversation?
Easter Eggs make you fat.
Chocolate bunnies make you fat. Oh, and Cadbury Creme Eggs. ;)
The heir and the spare. It's what all good wives do. Especially royals.
http://royalworldjl.blogspot.com/2010/10/heir-and-spare.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-advised-to-stay-pretty-263014
What a load of bullshit 6:41 it was an oversight that was rectified, obviously no charges were placed against her which if there were grounds for it as there wasn't, would have been laid.
Are you denying that these comments, "Did Forbes ever write about the emo scene? Did any pop punk act sell 20,000 tickets in 9 minutes flat?," were intended to imply that popularity or attention from some business magazine makes one musical genre than another? Or did you lose track of the conversation?
You did miss the point as the original remark was in response to the comment that it was this decades's emo scene Emo was more a fad, this style of music has been around for decades and constantly evolving and even if gets done to death in the charts(which I think it will) it will always be around.
You don't have to like it and it's not about one style being better than another as that is subjective, though you cannot fail to acknowledge it appeals to a lot of people.
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A true punk in all sense of the word
And one that doesn't need tattoos and botox.
Hunterz
It's great to see someone that values the analogue synth.
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to those of you having problems reading the comments: go the the actual post page, the 'Newest' links at the very end of the page work fine.
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I really hate it when you assume shit. It is so frustrating. This is what happens when you communicate like this. I was speaking of the topic that was brought up. If it had been my own feeling, I would have said so. But by the way, there is nothing wrong with wanting to see good in people. Especially if you feel it's right to do so, and had once before. You would be included in that feeling as well. You always misunderstand so much of what I say. (All of you do.) And I hate it when you pull this. Top it off, this isn't the place for this.
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What a load of bullshit 6:41 it was an oversight that was rectified, obviously no charges were placed against her which if there were grounds for it as there wasn't, would have been laid.
What bulllshit? She didn't pay her taxes. She was caught. The tax collectors came knocking on her door. She paid her taxes instead of going to jail. All tax paying citizens are given that choice. Pay up or go to jail. She chose to pay up when caught. As most others have. Except Al Capone. A true punk in every sense of the word if there ever was one.
You need to get over your heroine worship.
You don't go to jail if you owe taxes, penalties are slapped on the amount owing and if you are dragged to court even more charges are added.
My understanding of the law is that jail terms only apply if there is a prima facie case of tax evasion is proven.
As most others have. Except Al Capone. A true punk in every sense of the word if there ever was one.
You need to get over your heroine worship.
Someone's in dire need of a reality check.
Apparently the racist shitstain of a wife is retiring from her sideshow band. Too bad that her stink will follow her career around forever, however much she tries to run away from it.
I'm betting he's knocked her up again.
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It would take a hell of a lot more than her just retiring to prove that she's not a piece of shit racist and misogynist. She'd have to come out and say she knew what they all did was wrong and oppressive.
WHO CARES!
They are who they are.
I don't like them and I have absolutely NO respect for them.
April 11, 2012 8:32 PM
Why are you here?
Whine to your friends.
Ohh brother!!!
Kapunua and Siobhan, haven't read you both in a while.
Hope you are both well.
delight
lulz
Shut up 2:37.
Why should they shut up 4:21? You got something against laughing or do you just like telling people to shut up?
You a sad muddafucka either way.
Shut up 4:21.
What would you know 5:36?
5:37
Mind your own BUSINESS!
I love that Jessicka is speaking out at Jeffree Star for using racist slurs, but she doesn't seem to have an issue with MSI using them 'for lolz'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-nPYvdSA9E
And let's not forget the fact that they think they can use the word 'n*gger' "because black people use it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWHQ8f1WuRs
It's perfectly fine for her BFF Lindsey to say racist things on youtube, but when Jeffree Star does it, he's a racist? I think Jessicka's logic evaporated with her morals. And wasn't she just trying to make friends with Jeffree earlier this week on twitter? She's lost it.
Sounds like an excellent way of drawing attention to yourself, if you ask me.
Wow I just read her tweets. She goes from practically begging him to tweet her back so they can 'put the past behind them and be friends again' to calling him a racist, sexist and all around gross person in less than eight @replies. Wow. Talk about crazy. Now if she'd just apply that logic to her relationship with Lindsey 'fuck the tsunami' Way...
And you're so shocked 8:01? Ha.
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I think there should be a charity set up to help women from degrading themselves to do bad things when life hits them hard. I wish all men can look at women with respect unless the person is just a nasty person which in that case they may deserve their situation
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