Tuesday, April 6, 2010

Women's rights! Real feminism...

Women's Rights at Change.org.

I thought you all might like this web page. I guess this isn't much of an MCR related post (they bore me to tears) but maybe it is, seeing as MCR have done a 180 (to quote a person who recently posted here) especially on feminism. (Also obviously on racism, homophobia etc...)

Next time you're getting mad at Lyn-Z because of her talking about how it's OK for chicks not to be really talented, how her flashing her panties is an inspiration to female musicians, or you're getting mad because of how Gerard treated his female fans, you can visit this page and see that there are people out there still fighting this kind of behavior!

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Anonymous said...

No, I'm not fat or ugly but you'd probably say I was stupid, have no life and I can't get a guy who gives a shit about me.

If you really think those things, anon, you should maybe go see a doctor? It does sound like you're clinically depressed, but you certainly don't come off as stupid.

Oh, and the guy thing? Kind of overrated, in my opinion. Having a boyfriend/husband doesn't fulfill you or complete you or any of that other bullshit. Yes, the sex is good, but sometimes it's not worth the problems that relationships bring along with them.

I don't know. Maybe I haven't found the right guy yet, but I've been married and I've been single and I like single better. I can also honestly say that all of my married/in a relationship friends don't seem all that happy to me. They spend most of their time complaining about their significant other.

Anyway, I'm sure you are a lovely person. Stop putting yourself down.

Anonymous said...

you guys are so nice to each other :L

Anonymous said...

Thankyou for being so sweet 1:18, and taking the time to respond to me.

You're right, I probably should see a doctor, but in my experience they don't help. I don't want to go on tablets and have the very essence of myself taken away. In comparison to many, I don't have a bad life. I think I'm just naturally more pre-disposed to being depressed, it's a part of my personality. The first instance I can remember was when I was about 6 years old, although of course I didn't realise what it was at the time.

It's awesome to hear you are happier being single, I respect and admire that. I think I've just fallen for the wrong types, who promise me everything, give me nothing and take everything. I've never had a proper boyfriend, and I'm not a teenager, I'm in my twenties. Currently in the midst of having my heart broken by my best friend.

Sex means nothing to me, I'd trade it all just for the little things.

Sorry, I guess this is netiher the time or the place. I'm just stuggling to cope today. Thankyou again for your kind words, it may not sound it but they did make a difference to me. You are a lovely person yourself. x

Anonymous said...

Anyway, I'm sure you are a lovely person. Stop putting yourself down.
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Agreed. 12:55, many people go through things in life, but it doesn't mean that they're pathetic or unworthy or a loser. Don't put yourself down. You're probably a great person as the other anon had said. I think sometimes it just takes a while for someone to realize their worth.

1:18 said...

You're welcome, 2:47.

I'm sorry you're having your heart broken right now, especially by someone you consider a friend. I've been there myself and I know how bad that sucks.

Hang in there. I'm sending good wishes your way and I hope things look up for you soon.

*hugs*

harley said...

im 16, how old are most of the people on this blog? there seems to be a real mix.

Anonymous said...

Hi Harley. Just turned 26 here. There's a big mix here for sure

Anonymous said...

I was in love with someone once. It was real and true and hurt like hell. I thought I might die of it. I've come though it now, and when I see this person now I just smile.

Anonymous said...

Thankyou so very much 1:18 *hugs*

Hearing other people got through it is very encouraging 4:05, 'cause that's certainly how I feel atm...

Anonymous said...

Hi, Harley.

I'm in my mid-forties. I got involved with MCR back when my daughter (now 19 and in college) was 14 and a huge fan. She and I went to see a couple of their shows together.

She can't stand MCR anymore (she's actually embarrassed by them now and would kill me if I told anyone that she used to like them). I was never a huge fan, but as the parent of a teenage daughter, I liked their "message" as well as Gerard's "feminist" and "anti-drung" stances. My daughter also used to like those things, but now she feels that MCR was feeding her a line of bull.

Why am I here? I am angry because I think there are a whole lot of young people out there who were taken in by a bunch of con-artists. MCR used those kids' faith and innocence to make a quick buck, which to me is reprehensible.

My daughter may want to just forget they exist and move on, but I can't forgive quite so easily. Maybe when somebody pulls the wool over Bandit's eyes one day, Gerard will understand how I feel.

harley said...

Yeah, i kind of get what you mean, i'm not really as big a fan of mcr as i used to be, but, i don't mind them. I'm a little bit confused though, what do you mean by mcr being 'con-artists'? what did they do?

Anonymous said...

MCR are teaching young people that lying and falsely representing yourself in business or anything come to think about it, is okay when your primary objective is making money. The label and their management are just as culpable as the band members themselves imo.

Anonymous said...

what do you mean by mcr being 'con-artists'? what did they do?

They pulled a lot of kids in with the "MCR saves lives" shtick, which now they seem to have turned their backs on. Gerard used to preach feminist rhetoric to young girls, then followed that up by telling young girls to "fuck themselves" and "moan for him". Then there's this business of trying to pass Lindsey off as a "role model" and the hateful, sexist things that Frank and Bob said on their twitters.

These people are nothing like who they represented themselves to be back before they "made it".

That's what I mean by "con-artists".

Anonymous said...

Then there's this business of trying to pass Lindsey off as a "role model"

A role model for the uneducated gullible females.

harley said...

haha ok, i think they do act like idiots sometimes and i think they are pretty immature for grown men tbh. But, i wouldn't take everything they say and do so personally and seriously, just kind of take things with a pinch of salt. :)

Anonymous said...

But, i wouldn't take everything they say and do so personally and seriously, just kind of take things with a pinch of salt. :)

It's easy to brush things off and say not to take things so personally. You're missing the real argument. The things they used to be so vocal about are actually serious issues. You can't trivialize it. If they didn't mean it they should have never opened their mouths about it.

harley said...

yeah, i guess you're right.

Anonymous said...

Seeing as this was being discussed before, I'm 19 and in my last year of university. I don't know what I want to do next year which is a little intimidating.

Anonymous said...

A role model for the uneducated gullible females.

April 17, 2010 6:08 PM

Actually, she is educated.

Anonymous said...

Actually, she is educated.

Ha.

Anonymous said...

Actually, she is educated.

One year of art school does not make one educated.

Anonymous said...

"Someone compared me to her once and i almost punched them in the face."
I know how you feel, anon. My friends always compared me to Gerard, since our styles are pretty much the same, and we like most of the same things and have a lot in common (before all the shit went down...). One of my friends used to call me the "female version" of him (until I informed her of his evil-- then she stopped. Thankfully). I'll admit, I can kinda see it, but it's ebarrassing. I don't want to have anything in common with him, more over be compared to him anymore.

Anonymous said...

*embarrassing. Pardon my typo.

Anonymous said...

One year of art school does not make one educated

Lol. How many different stories are they going to tell about that?

I've read that she went to art school for one year. I've read that she went to art school for two years. I've read that that she went to art school in Connecticut. I've read that she went to art school in New York. Now in Nylon they said that she was an art school graduate, despite the fact that Jimmy has said in interviews that they were all "art school dropouts."

But what do you expect? Back in 2003, they were telling AP that Lindsey was Jimmy's sister.

Anonymous said...

In other words she is a bullshit artist. Like the husband.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, and I'm not buying the Dolly Parton cover band story either.

Anonymous said...

She has a bad image from MSI. Imo, GW and his wife are trying to concoct a new one by distorting people's original perception of her via the media.

Anonymous said...

One of my friends used to call me the "female version" of him [Gerard] (until I informed her of his evil-- then she stopped. Thankfully). I'll admit, I can kinda see it, but it's ebarrassing. I don't want to have anything in common with him, more over be compared to him anymore.

I have a good friend who looks a lot like Gerard. She has the same nose, cheekbones, wide-set eyes...

It's kind of creepy. She dressed like him for Halloween once and it was frightening how much she looked like him.

Now, if anyone even mentions that Halloween, she threatens them with death. She even made me delete all the pictures I had of her in costume.

I'll tell her about you. I'm sure she feels your pain.

Anonymous said...

She has a bad image from MSI. Imo, GW and his wife are trying to concoct a new one by distorting people's original perception of her via the media.

I agree. This is why I don't think she'll go back to MSI -- if and when they ever decide to record or tour again.

Anonymous said...

Fancy that, disowning something that you wholeheartedly and actively participated and enjoyed playing in for like, five years? I suppose you can walk away from it once it got you what you were aiming for.

Anonymous said...

Fancy that, disowning something that you wholeheartedly and actively participated and enjoyed playing in for like, five years?

If she would really do that -- for a man -- then more than anything, I feel sorry for her.

She has said in the past that playing for MSI was her dream. She shouldn't have to change who she is for him. Any woman who gives up her dreams for a man is no feminist.

Anonymous said...

Any woman who gives up her dreams for a man is no feminist.

Did she give up her dream if her dream didn't give her the ability live in the real world?

Anonymous said...

I don't think their is any figuring Lindsey out. There is just too much contradictory information out there about her.

Kind of like Gerard. It's impossible to tell what's real and what isn't.

Anonymous said...

^there

Anonymous said...

Kind of like Gerard. It's impossible to tell what's real and what isn't.

If you work under the premise that they're both superficial idiots, I think you're are half way there :)

Anonymous said...

I think they're just trying to create themselves rather than just being themselves. IMO, that's taking "art" just a little too far.

Anonymous said...

^And it's pretentious as hell.

kapunua said...

Kind of like Gerard. It's impossible to tell what's real and what isn't.

Gerard is a rooster illusion.

Sorry, watched Tropic Thunder again. But the point is exactly the same.

I don't think there is a Gerard. Everything is an act to cover up the fact that there's no one at home.

The thing with Gerard is that, when you scratch the surface, you realize that underneath, there's just more surface.

12:55, I'm sorry for what you're going through. The phrase "hang in there" sounds trite and stupid - I know. My last year has been the worst of my life. I'm still waiting for the "it gets better" that everyone tells me about.

But you kinda have to believe it does get better. It has to matter, or nothing does. :)

So, yeah. Hang in there.

Anonymous said...

Gerard is a rooster illusion

Lynz is no better.

Anonymous said...

And,

They are both attention seekers in the worst possible way, imo.

Anonymous said...

@8:17; Oh man, I'm not sure if I'd be able to live that down... I understand how she feels, hopefully people just forget about :/

9:16 said...

*about it.

I'm really out of it tonight...Sorry for all the extra posts correcting my previous ones.

Anonymous said...

Kind of like Gerard. It's impossible to tell what's real and what isn't.

...or so real that it's real fake that's real.

Anonymous said...

Dead Weather, Muse and MGMT all on the same day!

Why oh why can't I live on the west coast?

Anybody here go to Coachella?

Anonymous said...

Electric Feel stops traffic at Coachella.

How I wish I could have been there. :/

Anonymous said...

They are no MCR. Noone puts on live shows like My Chem.

Anonymous said...

Noone (sic) puts on live shows like My Chem.

This is true, but I don't think you and I mean the same thing when we say that. Gerard's voice makes my head hurt. :/

With regards to MGMT, I loved Oracular Spectacular, but I'm not sure about the new CD. Maybe it's a grower, but right now I'm not feeling it.

kapunua said...

I saw MCR at PR, and honestly, I was totally underwhelmed. Even back then I was sort of into them, and I left before the end of their show (during Cancer, actually, Because god damn, worst song ever.)

TBS blew them off the stage.

Anonymous said...

I saw MCR at PR, and honestly, I was totally underwhelmed .... TBS blew them off the stage.

I felt exactly the same way.

Oh, and Cancer. I think we've talked about it before. I was so glad to find someone else who felt the same way about that horrible song as I did.

Worst song ever, for sure.

Anonymous said...

I hate Cancer too. I never got how it could be anyone's favorite song from MCR.

But I guess everyone has different opinions...

happyXamp said...

i always fell asleep to it..

kapunua said...

Absolutely. Not only the worst emo song ever written, but so damn shamelessly tacky and exploitative.

I thought so even when I liked the rest of their music. I was bummed that a band I liked at the time had written and recorded such a thing. And kind of embarrassed for them.

Anonymous said...

what ever happened to frances? haven't heard anything about her in ages.

happyXamp said...

i know there's some people here in the UK, possibly France, how's everything with the volcanic ash???

Anonymous said...

Hey, UK here, aside from the flights being grounded everything's completly normal. It's not affected anyone's day to day life at all unless you were planning on traveling by air. The media makes everything seem worse than it actually is.

Anonymous said...

Another UK here, i have one friend whose trip to New York was postponed on Thursday, again tomorrow, hopefully she will fly on May 6, on the other hand I have a friend on holiday in Spain, and she was due back on Friday, she Will not be back till this Friday, lucky her!

Anonymous said...

And another UK-er here. Thanks for asking HappyXamp. I have friends stranded in South Africa and Spain (not so bad). But also friends due to fly out to Florida (Disney) last Saturday. Luckily they are insured and can re schedule.

I think some flights are going tomorrow from Newcastle or Scotland? It all depends on the direction of the wind. Aside from holiday fuck ups, I think it will effect work related things. But atleast no one died.

happyXamp said...

we were talking about it in my environmental science class, and thats what got me wondering. Thanks for answering though!

Anonymous said...

I didn't really get what you guys meant about the song "Cancer" until a few weeks ago when I found out my friend has cancer. Now I'm ashamed I ever liked that song.

kapunua said...

Anon, I'm really sorry about your friend.

Anonymous said...

I'm so sorry and sincerely hope the best for your friend 9:59.

Welshie said...

anon 9:59. I never really liked the song, I didn't hate it but thought it was such a sensitive topic to sing about you know.

My sister's been battling breast cancer for the last 12 months. I've watched her go through hell and thinking about Gerard singing 'Cancer' whilst pulling faces pretending to be in pain just makes me angry. No not angry, but sad I guess. Sad that he doesn't understand how upsetting it could be for someone who's actually fighting the illness or even their families.

Don't feel upset that you liked the song. I do know of some people who actually thought that the song helped them through a tough time, and if it helped them then I'm glad. People react in different ways and we should respect that.

Anyway my best wishes to you and your friend.

kapunua said...

Hey there Welshie. I'm sorry about your sister. I hate that disease so much. I wish I could punch it right in its ugly face. I hope the best for your sis. :)


I felt the same way about the song, except it made me angry. It's like they were making an emo mockery of the whole thing.

Welshie said...

Hi Kapunua, how are you luv?

Please go ahead and punch 'cancer' in the face for me K. I shall stand back and cheer you on. Hell you might teach me some of your Kung Fu moves.
Hi-Ya. *chop*
How'd I do K? Was that ok?:)


Thanks for the best wishes for my sister. She's finished her treatment and now we have to wait until June for her results. I'm getting more anxious as the time goes on.
I can't tell you how sick I am of Cancer. I feel as if it's picked on my family and gone all out to destroy us you know:(

I have two cousins who have cancer as well. One is doing quite well, the other has just had some bad news. After months of treatment the tumour is still growing. Not sure what's going to happen now:(

To top it all my friend who is getting married next month phoned me last week in tears 'cos her mum has just been diagnosed with breast cancer!


Sometimes it's hard to keep positive, but you have to try. What else can you do?

I hope you and your mum are both keeping well. I haven't spoken to you for ages.

I'm going to make some sweet and sour chicken for my tea now. I always used to laugh when you'd say "You're going to EAT your tea?" haha. Ah we Brits like to confuse you:) hee hee!

Take care luv and *hugs* to your mum:)

kapunua said...

Ha, that was great, Welshie.

Yeah I know what you mean, cancer is so rampant. How can that even be? And everyone's always doing this benefit and that benefit for THE CURE. There's not going to be a cure. I'm sure treatments will get better but I doubt there will be a one-shot cure.

I hope your sis and both your cousins know all about Essiac Tea, it's a GREAT cancer treatment and it's harmless, you literally drink this tea at home. (As opposed to eating it, LOL.) Some folks have had really good results. And of course, diet is everything!

Anyway a friend of my Dad's had inoperable cancer years ago and he went on this Essiac diet and he's fine to this day. For some people, it works wonders. Worth a shot!

Mom and I are hanging in there, but some days, it's really tough.

Welshie said...

I've never heard of Essiac Tea Kapunua. I'll definitely look into it. Thanks for that.

I'm glad you're both hanging in there K. It takes time to get over the loss of loved ones.

harley said...

i've got the entire week of school because of the volcanic ash! school can't run because too many teachers are stranded abroad! this is getting pretty serious now...

harley said...

*off not of lol

happyXamp said...

i'm very jealous, however we had som many snow days this year..

Anonymous said...

I hate the Cancer song too. I couldn't even bear to listen to it on the album. I've people in my family suffer with cancer, and god, that song really does not say half of it. I think that in music, you have to be very careful when using it as subject matter, otherwise it could (and did) go horribly wrong.

So to hear about the other people's experiences about. Sending you cyber-snogs.

Anonymous said...

I mean sorry to heat about it. The other experiences above.

Anonymous said...

I hate the song Cancer too.

I lost my sister to Cancer. By the time she was diagnosed, she was Stage IV and the doctors didn't give her much hope. She did undergo surgery and a round of chemo, after which she lived for two years, but they were never able to get her into remission. The cancer was all throughout her digestive system and eventually, she just wasn't able to eat anymore. She did not want to be kept alive artificially so they didn't feed her with tubes and she essentially starved to death.

I stayed with her for the last two weeks of her life and it was horrific. You can't imagine the suffering she experienced.

I know that some people say the song helped them through the death of loved ones, but I seriously doubt that they were there to see their loved ones' suffering as up close as I was.

The song always made me angry because I felt it not only trivialized the suffering, but romanticized it as well. It was in horrible taste and every time I heard even the first couple of bars of the intro, it brought back my experience with my sister.

Now every time I hear Gerard's whiny nasal voice I think of that song and, needless to say, I can't listen to MCR at all anymore.

I think the only thing Gerard has done that I agree with in the past few years is to denounce TBP, not necessarily because I didn't like the album, but because it contained that song.

Anonymous said...

I'm very sorry for your loss 4am. And everyone else who has lost someone they loved.


On a bit of a sidenote, regarding MCR and their connection to their fans. Or should I say the connection the fans felt they had with MCR. I am sure in a lot of cases kids that were depressed, self harmers, suicidal, felt some great sort of connection to GW (in particular) because of his experience involving these issues. I think that was very genuine on both sides at the time.

I think that with The Black Parade there was an influx of new fans that wanted to jump on the MCR bandwagon and embrace their inner black (and nothing wrong with that). But I always thought that there were quite a number of fans that re-invented themselves in this so called perceived MCR fan image. I know that sounds awful to say, but it was like some fans wanted to appear depressed, suicidal, self harmers, even if they hadn't been previously. Almost as if they didn't have that connection with the band if they didn't have one of these problems. I also think there was a necessity for them to say "MCR saved my life" even if they really didn't. To feel accepted. That is no disrespect to any genuine people that got some help for themselves by being a fan of MCR etc.

I remember reading an interview during 2006/2007 where GW said that he looked into the crowd and he could see all the self harm/cutting scars on a teenage girls arms. And he said that he stopped and thought, "Is this what the fans feel the have to do now, to fit in, to be part of this?" I think that scared him. And I genuinely think he was right there. I think that is exactly what some fans felt they needed to do to themselves to fit in.

I think that is dangerous. I think GW realized how dangerous it was. I think he's been backing away from everything to do with connecting with the fans since.

I'm not actually blaming him for that happening initially. He wasn't to realise what an impact he could have on his younger fans. But I think it scared the shit out of him.

Just my thoughts on that side of things. I'm certainly not excusing his behaviour since 2007, but I was just thinking back to the earlier days is all.

1.07 said...

right there = correct
realize = realise

I am becoming Americanised.

kapunua said...

4:00, I am so sorry that you and your family had to face that. There really are no words.


I'm not actually blaming him for that happening initially. He wasn't to realise what an impact he could have on his younger fans. But I think it scared the shit out of him.


If that's the case, then why would he turn around and treat the females in his audience the way that he did? Why would he honestly think "Oh, cutting is bad, I shouldn't encourage that. However, wow, look at all these 14 year old girls, let's see if I can make them simulate an orgasm for me."

Doesn't make sense. I think his "OH NOEZ, I care about what I see in my audience!!1111" thing was an act, too.

Anonymous said...

If that's the case, then why would he turn around and treat the females in his audience the way that he did? Why would he honestly think "Oh, cutting is bad, I shouldn't encourage that. However, wow, look at all these 14 year old girls, let's see if I can make them simulate an orgasm for me."

Good point. I do get where you are coming from. I wasn't really defending him, I'd just been thinking back is all. I guess I was thinking through what was going on in his head. But there is no defending how he behaved during those gigs in 2007.

Anonymous said...

Self-harm or cutting has nothing to do with "fitting in" and represents a form of tension release in people predisposed to depression. These fans most likely connected to him as they saw someone who reflected their own feelings about the way they feel.

Anonymous said...

Trying to impress the idiot he married and her friends, was a stupid move on his part.

Anonymous said...

These fans most likely connected to him as they saw someone who reflected their own feelings about the way they feel.

i agree with that. but i am also witness to the fact that some fans arriving with TBP felt they needed to atleast act that they had been depressed/suicidal or their life had been saved. it cheapened the fact that it was really happening for some fans.

kapunua said...

I see what you meant by it, I just don't think that any of his concern was sincere. I think the guy we're seeing now--the sexist LA douchebag--is as probably as close to a "real Gerard" as anything.

Anonymous said...

I have known fans who have feigned depression in order to fit in with other MCR fans. Back during my MCR fan heyday, when I was kind of a 'big name fan' on lj, nearly every kid on my f-list claimed to be depressed, suicidal, and/or a cutter. Later, as many of those fans trickled away from the fandom, some even admitted to faking it to fit in. Teenage girls very often will do some crazy things to feel like they belong.

Anonymous said...

Both girls and boys. Though girls tend to be more dramatic and emotional, i.e. feigning depression.

Anonymous said...

I knew a girl on LJ who used to talk about cutting all of the time and how she stopped doing it because of MCR.

She dropped out of all the MCR comms about a year ago and the last time I talked to her on AIM she told me that she made all of that up just so she could have a story about how MCR saved her life.

Anonymous said...

"I have known fans who have feigned depression in order to fit in with other MCR fans. Back during my MCR fan heyday, when I was kind of a 'big name fan' on lj, nearly every kid on my f-list claimed to be depressed, suicidal, and/or a cutter. Later, as many of those fans trickled away from the fandom, some even admitted to faking it to fit in. Teenage girls very often will do some crazy things to feel like they belong."


It's not just teenage girls. I know we're not supposed to talk about "that place" but I used to go to Mayo's as an anon sometimes to read the poetry (geek) and to see what all the fuss was about. I could not believe the amount of middle aged women there whining and groaning about their depression because they thought Mayo was Gerard and it would get his attention.

Here you have Elena who has her own business and healthy children and a roof over her head and is basically having the American Dream. And because one time Mayo put her despondent words on his side board, every time she comes on since then she acts like Eeyore.

Not just teenagers.

Anonymous said...

I don't know this person Elena, but maybe she really is clinically depressed. If so, she should seek help from a therapist, not from a band and certainly not from a rawkstaa, make-believe or otherwise.

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that Gerard would most likely want to surround himself with happy, non-depressed people. I'd say that being depressed around him would be the most sure-fire way to run him off, not get his attention.

Anonymous said...

I know Elena and she is not how you describe. Who are you to judge whether she is truly in pain or not, and who are you to judge whether or not being at Mayo's and talking to him helps her. Maybe it does help. It's not your business. Take a look at your own life.

Anonymous said...

Misery loves company.

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that Gerard would most likely want to surround himself with happy, non-depressed people.

Like Lindsey and JU. They may not be the sharpest knives in the drawer, but they don't seem the type to be whining and moaning all of the time. I think that's probably what drew him to them initially.

Personally, I would prefer people with a bit more brains than Gerard's posse seems to possess, but at least they aren't all walking around with a constant rain cloud over their heads.

Anonymous said...

I thought Mayo's was defunct. Hasn't he stopped posting?

Anonymous said...

where is this Mayos? i tried googling it in conjunction with mcr and got nothing. link? someone? i feel outta the loop...

Anonymous said...

There's really no point in going to Mayo's. He (or more likely she) was just some fan (who maybe had a little bit of inside knowledge) pretending to be Gerard.

A bunch of fans (mostly older women) started commenting there because they thought Mayo was distraught and they could help "him". Mind you, this was immediately after Gerard's wedding, so why they thought he would be so distraught is beyond me (unless of course they thought Gerard had made a huge mistake by marrying Lindsey).

Mayo hasn't posted anything in months. All of the people who were even remotely interesting left a long time ago.

Anonymous said...

^I forgot to add that it was probably somebody from Mayo's who posted that thing about Elena, trying to dredge up some interest in the place. It's like a ghost town now so maybe they want new people to come and talk to them (although a few months ago they would have treated any new people like dirt so they wouldn't have to share their rawksta with anyone else).

Anonymous said...

www.its-mayonaise.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

People really thought that was Gerard? Freal? It doesn't sound anything like him at all.

I find it pretty hard to believe that anyone genuinely fell for that. Are you sure they weren't just role-playing?

Anonymous said...

I think you have to read back a bit. Some posts were very Gerard sounding way back, in terms of him describing himself etc. But Mayo always came across as older and a lot more into proper grammar and punctuation.

Anonymous said...

I think it sounds like somebody trying very hard to be Gerard-like. But Gerard wouldn't be bothered with trivial things like grammar and punctuation.

kapunua said...

Back in the day, Mayo would give lots of hints and junk and was way more open about his/her connection to the band. (He referenced his p33n more than once, so I always thought of him as a guy. But who knows?)

I always thought it was someone who knew the band and had a lot of spare time. Mayo said some stuff that sounded very "inside circle."

Either way it was never Gerard and even if it was, who cares? He has a Twitter, people could talk to him there if they really wanted to. But I don't know why anyone would want to.

I quite liked Mayo, still do in a way. Whoever s/he is, s/he is a good writer with a wry sense of humor, and knows how to wield a comma. ;D

And before it all went to crap, it was a cool place to hang out, read poetry, write poetry, be a poetry outlaw and these kinds of things. I met some fabulous folks there who are still good friends. We had us some fun times over there.

Though the porch was usually better. ^_^

Anonymous said...

The think I don't understand about Mayo's is why and how did the people who comment there decide that they had the right to control who and what was posted in the comments?

It's like they think they have some kind of exclusive rights to the blog. Did Mayo handpick who ran it or something?

Anonymous said...

I don't know 2:19. I saw it too and thought it stupid, childish and driven more by their personal insecurities.

Anonymous said...

I think it boils down to the MCR fangirl mentality of "we have to control everything". Why is it that anything that starts out having anything even remotely to do with that band turns into an Authoritarian regime?

kapunua said...

I dunno. The main problem I had with some anons is that they acted very rude. And then it came to a point where they were spamming, sometimes with porn, sometimes with porn about some of us. It was out of control. And when I'd get mad at them, it would be, "Oh, you're a bitch, you don't want anyone new coming in!" Well, you get a little gun shy after stuff like that.

But the truth is that most of the worst stuff was said and done by folks who were signed in, and thought that they had some kind of right to act abusive. I mean, I lost my job for pete's sake. Folks took shots at my loved ones who had recently died - sometimes a few days after. And a lot of that was done signed in. Now that I look back on it--perspective at a distance--it's insane. Sick, really.

It's odd because a few of us took so much abuse from the regulars there because we wrote in rhymes. OH NOEZ. Then came all these rules about how much rhyming stuff you could post and how many times a day. It was completely retarded.

I honestly couldn't tell you why I kept wasting time there when I knew I wasn't wanted. Or, maybe that is why. ;D

kapunua said...

I also think a lot of people thought that I knew something that I wasn't sharing (not like I would have to share anything if I didn't want to?) And I actually didn't, and don't.

kapunua said...

But anyway! Looks like Mayo's gone from there, and that's all in the past. ^_^

Anonymous said...

I never understood the hatred of the poetry.

Anonymous said...

I think it boils down to the MCR fangirl mentality of "we have to control everything". Why is it that anything that starts out having anything even remotely to do with that band turns into an Authoritarian regime?

I think it's more a case of if you don't think like us, you're not one of us . Also I believe some of the anonymous commentators were goading some of the regulars there and making the place hostile.

kapunua said...

I didn't either, at first. Then I realized that it wasn't hatred of poetry itself, but of those of us who liked it enough to post it. Once we were gone, then it was all "Oh look Mayo, I love poetry too!"

Ehhh. Glad it's over. ^_^

Anonymous said...

K I remember the OPs telling you "It's not like you're the only one here who lost your father" and then telling you and your family to rot in hell for eternity.

Pure madness.

Anonymous said...

I think that people just started taking the blog way too seriously. I mean, it's the internetz, folks. It's not like it was anything earth shattering. Sheesh.

I know a little about what happened to you there, Kapunua, but not all. I am very, very sorry that people there were abusive, and taking pot shots at someone who just lost a loved one is unconscionable. I can't imagine why anyone would resort to that kind of abuse, especially over something as trivial as a blog.

Oh well. Just one more thing about the world that I don't understand, I suppose.

Anonymous said...

I can't imagine why anyone would resort to that kind of abuse, especially over something as trivial as a blog.

That's the thing. I think to a lot of those people, Mayo's was more than "just a blog." They built it up to be something hugely important in their lives. It meant way more to them than it should have.

I think it's kind of sad. And unhealthy.

kapunua said...

Thanks, anon. I don't get it either. It was just insanity. But for a long time, part of me was like, "If I leave, they'll feel all smug like they won!" Totally immature of me. I have never once missed being treated like that.

2:41, it wasn't me the "rot in hell" thing was said to; it was said to someone else. What got said to me was that God would strike me dead and burn me to ashes. LOL.

Anonymous said...

"That's the thing. I think to a lot of those people, Mayo's was more than "just a blog." They built it up to be something hugely important in their lives. It meant way more to them than it should have."


They think of it as a castle.

Anonymous said...

But for a long time, part of me was like, "If I leave, they'll feel all smug like they won!"

I can understand that. But, in the end, what did they win? A blog that has been deserted even by its creator.

Not much of a prize, in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

"2:41, it wasn't me the "rot in hell" thing was said to; it was said to someone else. What got said to me was that God would strike me dead and burn me to ashes. LOL."


That's just sick.

kapunua said...

2:52, I absolutely agree. I still often talk to the friends I made there, just, now we talk on facebook. ^_^

I made the mistake about a month ago of trying to go back there to post a bit. Nostalgia and all.

Yeah, that didn't go too well. ;)

But! Mayo's is irrelevant after all. And, it's better this way. ^_^

Anonymous said...

If it's so 'Dead" they why is it still being discussed? You can tell your little stories about who said what to you but there are two sides to every story. No one was there before the comment about God was made to you, so no one here knows exactly what you said to deserve being told that.

Maybe everyone should stop judging Mayo's and the Lovelies and try to realize that there are two sides to everything.

And if certain things got said to certain people, maybe those people needed to be told those things.

It's easy for you to judge when you weren't even there.

Just leave Mayo's out of your little hate blog.

Anonymous said...

It the problem was never with people posting poetry. It was the fact that you did it SO MUCh and you specifically did it to hurt people. You knew that Amyranth felt like she was being excluded when you would write your stupid "pomes" and that she felt like you were interrupting her conversations. She and others asked you repeatedly to stop.

But you did it even more. So you are not the victim here.

Anonymous said...

Why is it being discussed?

Simple. Once something is dead, people very often talk about the cause of its demise.

kapunua said...

So you are not the victim here.



Well, you've got that right. :)

kapunua said...


Simple. Once something is dead, people very often talk about the cause of its demise.


Kinda like with MCR! ^_^

Anonymous said...

If it's so 'Dead" they why is it still being discussed? You can tell your little stories about who said what to you but there are two sides to every story. No one was there before the comment about God was made to you, so no one here knows exactly what you said to deserve being told that.

Maybe everyone should stop judging Mayo's and the Lovelies and try to realize that there are two sides to everything.

And if certain things got said to certain people, maybe those people needed to be told those things.

It's easy for you to judge when you weren't even there.

Just leave Mayo's out of your little hate blog.


There are two sides and K's is one of them too.

Anonymous said...

Seems Mayo's is still unnaturally important to some folks.

Do you trawl this place constantly just waiting for someone to say something negative about your beloved make-believe castle, 2:56?

Anonymous said...

Kinda like with MCR! ^_^

Exactly! :D

Anonymous said...

Don't you have anything better to do with your time 2:56 then waste time on this "hate blog"? Some people are just so ignorant.

Anonymous said...

The idiot is now posting our comments there. So typical.

Anonymous said...

Once you give out the link to Mayo's, then YOu are the ones trolling Mayo's. Just stay away from Mayo's and we wouldn't have to even discuss this with you.

Why do you even care about Mayo's? Just keep hating on Gerard and his wife and leave the rest of the internet alone. Stay here in your little hate-fest and mind your damn business.

Anonymous said...

Nope sorry for one thing I am no 'idiot' (Kapunua's favorite word) and secondly, I did not post anything over there.

Anonymous said...

Oh well. I suppose they have to do something to try and liven up the place.

Anonymous said...

Besides, what are YOU doing over at Mayo's anyway?

Anonymous said...

They need a good drama-llama once in a while now that they don't have any good "enemies."

Anonymous said...

Just stay away from Mayo's and we wouldn't have to even discuss this with you.

See. Authoritarian regime. And so ridiculously predictable.

Anonymous said...

Why do you even care about Mayo's? Just keep hating on Gerard and his wife and leave the rest of the internet alone. Stay here in your little hate-fest and mind your damn business.

Um, why don't you take your own advice? Just keep on posting love songs to your faux rockstaa, like a good little MCR fan.

Anonymous said...

Nope sorry for one thing I am no 'idiot'

yeaa

Anonymous said...

They need a good drama-llama once in a while now that they don't have any good "enemies."

Lol. Anything to get the old adrenaline pumping, I suppose.

Anonymous said...

Um, why don't you take your own advice? Just keep on posting love songs to your faux rockstaa, like a good little MCR fan.



You just keep judging and judging. Look at your own life and leave others alone.

You know it's funny. It's funny how at Mayo's there was an anon picking on Elena today, and then HERE there was an anon picking on Elena.

HMMMM.

Anonymous said...

You know it's funny. It's funny how at Mayo's there was an anon picking on Elena today, and then HERE there was an anon picking on Elena.

HMMMM.


The person here picking on Elena was most likely a troll from Mayo's. This whole thing was probably orchestrated by the people from Mayo's in order to start up your drama llama.

You all are so transparent, it's laughable.

Anonymous said...

You just keep judging and judging. Look at your own life and leave others alone.

You know it's funny. It's funny how at Mayo's there was an anon picking on Elena today, and then HERE there was an anon picking on Elena.

HMMMM.


Well, look who is doing precisely the same thing. And also assuming the same anon made that comment to Elena.

Hmmmmmmmm

Ass.

Anonymous said...

The person here picking on Elena was most likely a troll from Mayo's. This whole thing was probably orchestrated by the people from Mayo's in order to start up your drama llama.

You all are so transparent, it's laughable.


Unfortunately, I have to agree.

Anonymous said...

Meh. Let them have their silly drama. It doesn't affect us at this blog so, it's no big deal.

Anonymous said...

Elena hasn't gotten much attention lately. Someone has to "miss" her.

Anonymous said...

I didn't even know who the heck this 'Elena' person was up until this morning. Now I wish I didn't.

Jeez.

Welshie said...

I'd just like to say something if that's ok. I do think it's unfair for people to single out Elena for being miserable on Mayo's blog 'cos to be honest I'm far worse. I can be a real miserable bugger. There have been times when I've posted when I've been anxious about my sister's treatment and I know I go on and on and on about how scared I am. Everyone has been so kind and reassuring and it helped me greatly.
So I think if you are going to say those things about Elena then maybe you should include me as well 'cos I know I moan a lot:(

Anon @ 4:00a.m. I cannot tell you had sad I was when I read your comment about your sister. I don't know what to say to be honest except that I'm so sorry for your loss:(

Anonymous said...

Everyone has something wrong with their lives that makes them sad. You have an awful time with your sister.

Elena just whines for Mayo's attention.

I honestly do feel sorry for her and hope she gets help.

Anonymous said...

Honestly Welshie, I don't think anyone here really cares all that much about what goes on at Mayo's. I know I don't. I don't read there and when I read the comment about Elena earlier, my first thought was to worry about another human being who might be suffering from depression.

I don't think any of us is going to criticize you. You seem like a lovely person. I don't know Elena and I'm not going to make any judgments about her either.

I really do think that whoever brought Elena up was just a troll who was trying to stir up trouble between the two blogs. I don't understand the need for the drama, but apparently, some people thrive on it.

Anonymous said...

Drama equals attention for those that start it. It's all very silly.

Anonymous said...

Why do you even care about VV's? Just keep trying to attract not-Gerard's attention on a blog and leave the rest of the internet alone. Stay there in your little crazy-fest and mind your damn business.

Anonymous said...

wow, so not dirty enough to be any of the guys in the band, where does it say he knew the band?

i really don't want to read through all that needy shit, especially if it's in comments.

and this guy is definitely a "he", or someone desperately wanting to be.

reminds me of this crazy msi fan i met a few years back who used to go all around the web pretending to be gerard just to promote lynz.

of course, you could tell you were talking to a teenage girl, a foul mouthed teenage girl but a teenage girl none the less.

whoever this guys is, hes older than her, but probably not older than VV herself.

also, no chick would name there blog after a condiment that notoriously looks like cum.

Anonymous said...

Mayo used to get really dirty. But he deleted a lot of those.

Anonymous said...

What does Mayo have to do with anything? He's probably some 50 year old internet perv who was hoping to hit on some young girls.

He's probably moved on to the Justin Bieber (sp?) fandom.

Anonymous said...

disturbing, but i still don't see why anyone would think hes with the band. how did all of that nonsense start?

was it a fangirl rumor or something?

Anonymous said...

It was def the fangirls who started saying Mayo was Gerard and SS was Frank. They even started other blogs to discuss Mayo. They said Mayo's blog had been " compromised ". lulz

Anonymous said...

Back when I was active on lj people knew about Mayo's but they all thought it was b.s.

At zomgmcrrumors we just wrote it off as some attention seeker. I remember when it got posted on mcrumorcontrol and one of the 'blues' came out to defend it. After that we all had a big laugh over at zomg.

I never thought anyone took it seriously except the people who posted there and the fandom pretty much wrote them all off as a bunch of certifiable loons.

Anonymous said...

very strange, i mean who jumps to those sort of conclusions? he never even officially said he was a he let alone someone in or with the band!

i just dont get it. i mean, does he even mention mcr in this blog at all?

Anonymous said...

speaking of zomgmcrrumors. is it still going? i'd heard of it back when the mcr lj scene was buzzing, that it was very exclusive and kind of elitist. people said band insiders themselves posted there. but i always wondered why someone close to the band would post on a stupid lj community. anyone who was or still is a part of zomg want to add?

Anonymous said...

I used to be part of it, but I left the fandom more than a year ago and if you didn't comment regularly you got kicked out. Lol. Silly, but it really was a very strict and exclusive community.

There were some people on there who had connections in a round about way. There were people who knew people, if you get my drift. They mostly knew journalists with magazines like AP and one girl knew Quinn Allman from high school or something and another knew Brian's girlfriend (at the time, I think they're married now).

So it's not like they were actually band people -- but they did find out things weeks before everybody else did.

The last time I checked, the comm hadn't been updated since January or so (not that I could read it anymore, seeing as how they kicked me out when I stopped coming around). I think most of those people got fed up with MCR around the time Brian left. I'm sure they know all the dirt on that. Too bad I didn't keep in touch. :/

Anonymous said...

"I remember when it got posted on mcrumorcontrol and one of the 'blues' came out to defend it."


I remember that on mcrumourcontrol too. It was Amyranth. She said for all of us to leave Mayo and SS alone because her friends to OPs had a "special connection" to SS.

LMFAO.

Anonymous said...

We all had a field day on zomg after that post. We talked about the blog crazy (Amyranth, I suppose) and the epic anon posts arguing with her.

We were all in general agreement that there was no way Mayo could be Gerard because he was too eloquent. When Gerard writes he makes very blatant errors like, "me and Mikey," or "I got mistook." He's very Jersey not only in his speech, but it often affects his writing, even when he's trying very hard to seem educated and articulate.

Anonymous said...

It was Kapunua who said the blog had been compromised and too many people had discovered the place. I remember that. She even suggested Mayo make a new blog and leave hints that only they could figure out because that one had been so compromised.

Anonymous said...

Talk about blog crazy.

Anonymous said...

She'd go on about how much better the blog was in the beginning. When it was just her, sdock, Mayo,loverman, and a couple others. Before so many undesirables found the place.

Anonymous said...

We were all in general agreement that there was no way Mayo could be Gerard because he was too eloquent

Goodness me, I wonder how anybody could presume Gerard has an eloquent bone in his body?

It's the stuff of fiction: fangirl fiction, that is.

Anonymous said...

You might as well take your Kapunua hate back to Mayo's.

Nobody cares. Seriously, that place is over. I don't care what happened to it.

Anonymous said...

Goodness me, I wonder how anybody could presume Gerard has an eloquent bone in his body?

I was saying that Mayo was too eloquent to be Gerard. You did understand that, right?

Anonymous said...

I was saying that Mayo was too eloquent to be Gerard. You did understand that, right?

Therefore, if no has assumed Gerard was this eloquent, learned person, no one would have presumed this Mayo character had any chance of being Iggy Pop the 2nd.

Duh.

Anonymous said...

Gerard's blogs on the website were so stupid. Fashion heroes, coffee, cereal and action figures.

He reads like a little boy (about middle school age) trying to sound grown-up.

Celebrities who already have an established fan base shouldn't write blogs and they should stay away from twitter unless they have that rare ability to come across as likable people. Otherwise they risk alienating people who already have preconceived notions about them.

In MCR's case, it was a stupid thing to do (the twitters and blogs). They come off as pretentious and stupid (Gerard), mean (Frank), mean and stupid (Bob), nice but not terribly engaging (Ray) and just plain stupid (Mikey).

Too bad Brian isn't writing their twitters for them. He's a genuinely likable guy.

Anonymous said...

They come off as pretentious and stupid (Gerard), mean (Frank), mean and stupid (Bob), nice but not terribly engaging (Ray) and just plain stupid (Mikey).

Maybe it's because they really might be like that.

Anonymous said...

Maybe it's because they really might be like that.

Exactly.

Anonymous said...

In MCR's case, it was a stupid thing to do (the twitters and blogs). They come off as pretentious and stupid (Gerard), mean (Frank), mean and stupid (Bob), nice but not terribly engaging (Ray) and just plain stupid (Mikey).

LOL! I spat my coffee!

Anonymous said...

I remember reading the first post of Mayonaise (which has since been deleted) which was all about his p33n being the size of Texas. Also remember thinking that guy must have has a major hangup to blog about it.

Anonymous said...

Mayo always intrigued me, being as I wasn't there from the beginning and a lot of the older posts (and the reasons why people seemed to think it was Gerard) were gone. I often wondered what the fuss was about, and just why people had that idea.

I spoke to a poster there who was kind enough to provide me with links to older posts and comments, and explain why everyone thought it were so. Simply because; they went out of their way to prove it so.

It's a bit of a strange story, being as now the 'lovelies' would rather talk about the weather and have everyone think they were crazy and making it up than reveal they might actually have had inside contact with the band.

There's no doubt in my mind that Mayo's did have something to do with Gerard and Frank, at least in the beginning. I mean, some of the posters on there decifered clues and went to secret shows, and met the guys.

Mayo would make comments about certain things, such as 'sea shanties' and then the next day Gerard would be on stage singing one. The penis comment was made in retaliation to someone who was commenting on Gerard's size. I believe he posted 'everything is bigger in (and below) Texas', then the next day was pictured wearing a belt buckle with the word 'Texas'.

It's certainly an intriging mystery, if a defunct one now.

Also, truely sorry to hear the terrible stories of loss. Much love to you and your families.

kapunua said...

It was Kapunua who said the blog had been compromised and too many people had discovered the place. I remember that. She even suggested Mayo make a new blog and leave hints that only they could figure out because that one had been so compromised.

Actually, no. When I said that the blog had been invaded, I meant by porn-spewing, rude, intrusive, abusive anons. When Mayo made a new place, I wasn't one of the ones invited by the "special people" if you remember.

Which you do, because I suspect you're another "Lovely" from over there, once again signed out.

So, why not just leave us alone? Seriously. I'm done there. It's yours. Have fun with it. Go nuts. Enjoy!

Anonymous said...

I remember reading the first post of Mayonaise (which has since been deleted) which was all about his p33n being the size of Texas

That in itself would automatically disqualify Gerard Way as a contender.

Anonymous said...

You're a subject of conversation over there right now Kapu.

Anonymous said...

Siobhan now, too.

kapunua said...

Wow, I couldn't give less of a crap even if I ate cheese and rice for three weeks. Let them go crazy and have their fun.

kapunua said...

Man, but do you see how stanky and gross everything turns around here once Mayo's is brought up? It's like the Bog of Eternal Stench anymore. Let's just drop it?

Anonymous said...

yeah, im just really glad i missed all of that.

um, by way of a topic change, lindseys fb page is the antithesis of feminism...

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000690357677

Anonymous said...

How so 3:10? Also, you can never be sure whether things like that are verified or fan-made...

Anonymous said...

no, but the reporters shes friends with can.

Anonymous said...

also, fanmade ones, have a lot more friends.

Anonymous said...

Who cares.

Anonymous said...

well, as this is a blog about feminism, us, obviously.

you trolls really are dumb as well, trolls, arent you?

mcrchat should be starting soon, go on and run along then.

Anonymous said...

Nope. Not interested in talking about dumbdumb and his moronic wife.

Anonymous said...

well then you are really on the wrong blog and im gonna come on back when the real VV fans come back.

Anonymous said...

Ok. Ciao.

Anonymous said...

I think the girl from Buzznet who apologized to el stupidos fans over the R Smith pic has much class and displayed high intelligence, which is more than I can say about the idiot and the dense wife who told people to go "suck it".

Anonymous said...

I can say about the idiot and the dense wife who told people to go "suck it".

Seriously what would you expect from those two clowns?

Anonymous said...

During Projekt Rev, Gerard got married to his soul mate (Mindless Self Indulgence bassist Lindsey) and was wrapping up the first installment of his acclaimed Dark Horse comic The Umbrella Academy.

More like his skank mate.

Anonymous said...

From those incessantly flapping gums:

"The whole 'My Chemical Romance saves lives' thing is a misrepresentation," he continues. "We are grateful and touched that you got something out of our music. But, ultimately it was you who worked through your reality. That's my message to the world: Get in the clear, we'll take care of this."

Anonymous said...

The moron should get a matching chicken inked on his arm to match his soul mate.

Anonymous said...

It's sad to think that a person who I once considered to have a brain, turns out to be stupider than some of the celebrities I once considered really dense.

Anonymous said...

What about the "we don't hate women and minorities" misinterpretation?

Anonymous said...

Also sleazy and preoccupied with money.

Anonymous said...

Concerned too much about image.

Anonymous said...

Insincere

Anonymous said...

You get the impression he constantly lies through his teeth

Anonymous said...

What about the "we don't hate women and minorities" misinterpretation?

Yeah, next thing you know, Gerard will be saying, "It's great that girls took something from this band about feminism, but that was a misrepresentation...."

Or maybe he'll just come right out and say, "You know when I said I was a feminist? I was 'pandering' to the female audience." Or in other words, "lying through his teeth."

Anonymous said...

I think the girl from Buzznet who apologized to el stupidos fans over the R Smith pic has much class and displayed high intelligence, which is more than I can say about the idiot and the dense wife who told people to go "suck it".

Yes, well, that girl is not a part of the Voluptuosity/Anotherway Ass Kissing Crew over at Buzznet. That bunch is a joke. Voluptuosity can't get along with anybody who doesn't kiss her ass.

It's obvious that even the admin at BN (Mark, or Panasonic Youth) can't stand Volup. In a comment to her just recently he said, "Jesus christ if you hate me so much, JUST PLEASE LEAVE BUZZNET and stop this passive aggressive bullshit."

I lol'd.

Anonymous said...

i feel sorry for him a lot.. he has to deal with idiots on that website, not just in the MCR forum but all over

Anonymous said...

It wouldn't surprise me if Buzznet does get rid of forums. They really do turn into cesspools that get taken over by Nazis.

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