Women's Rights at Change.org.
I thought you all might like this web page. I guess this isn't much of an MCR related post (they bore me to tears) but maybe it is, seeing as MCR have done a 180 (to quote a person who recently posted here) especially on feminism. (Also obviously on racism, homophobia etc...)
Next time you're getting mad at Lyn-Z because of her talking about how it's OK for chicks not to be really talented, how her flashing her panties is an inspiration to female musicians, or you're getting mad because of how Gerard treated his female fans, you can visit this page and see that there are people out there still fighting this kind of behavior!
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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1571 Newer› Newest»Me too. In fact I do get annoyed when things I say are taken out of context & I'm on a much smaller scale.
I'm with Gerard. Looking forward to the movie.
is that illegal what kerrang did, taking his words out of context like that?
Not sure anon, but I do visit Kerrang everyday to read up on music news, and they tend to post out a particular quote from him if it's one that might get attention, both negative and positive.
It's probably obvious that they got some weird fascination with him.
is that illegal what kerrang did, taking his words out of context like that?
IMO it should be, but I don't think so, no. After all, it wasn't really anything slanderous, and the parts they had in quotation marks he did actually say, word for word. Annoying, yes, illegal, unfortunately not.
I don't think it would be in their best interests to make an enemy of Kerrang anyway. :/
I agree 2:24. Gerard has been their golden boy for years now. They really shouldn't piss him off, in their own best interests.
But it's possible that he gave consent to that little article, and that they even asked him beforehand.
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funny tweet, I just read
"isten, jared leto, between you and i - you're a little too old for a mohawk, ok? i mean, that'd be like me drawing spiderwebs on my face." JA
I'm enjoying reading this blog a lot.
funny tweet, I just read
"Listen, jared leto, between you and i - you're a little too old for a mohawk, ok? i mean, that'd be like me drawing spiderwebs on my face." JA
I'm enjoying reading this blog a lot.
I'd say he gets away with it, especially when it's not pink.
guys in rancid are how old? and one of them still has a mowhawk, actually he has liberty spikes... but ya got have a mowhawk before the spikes
I wanna mowhawk (but mom won't let me get one)
kudos to anyone who gets the reference.
I'm going to start blogs about all of these bands that you love, pointing out every little stupid or non feminist thing they do. Like how your precious Billie Joe got arrested for DUI. Wow what a model citizen.
Then maybe we'll talk about how Jared Leto will fuck anything that moves and is prolly a walking STD. Not to mention he's nearly forty and is still single and acts/dresses like a teenager.
Kings ofLeon? Oh boy. Talk about misogynist lyrics. They write about screwing supermodels and STDs. Their also the very definition of sellouts.
Even kapunua's precious Adam Lazzara is a douche who can't keep his dick in his pants or a guitar player for his stupid band.
Maybe when someone is slinging mud at some of your idols you morons will understand why the MCRmy is so against all of you and your pathetic hate blog.
I'm going to start blogs about all of these bands that you love, pointing out every little stupid or non feminist thing they do
Go right ahead. You probably won't see any of us going there to defend anyone. Why would WE go to a blog that doesn't like the bands we like?
I'm going to start blogs about all of these bands that you love, pointing out every little stupid or non feminist thing they do
Go right ahead. You probably won't see any of us going there to defend anyone. Why would WE go to a blog that doesn't like the bands we like?
Maybe when someone is slinging mud at some of your idols you morons will understand why the MCRmy is so against all of you and your pathetic hate blog.
I don't think we would take someone slinging mud at our idols as personally as the MCRmy does.
Have to admit, 9:42's rant does make MCR seem pretty tame in comparison.
I'm going to start blogs about all of these bands that you love, pointing out every little stupid or non feminist thing they do.
You have every right to have a blog where you can express your opinion just the same way we do.
But I can promise you this: you won't have a silly little army of fangirls who will seek out your blog and call you a moron or tell you that you aren't allowed to have your opinions.
I'm a KOL fan and believe me, I know all of their shortcomings. I always have. So do the guys from KOL. They'll be the first to admit them. They've never tried to present themselves as anything other than what they are. Also, their fans are some of the chillest people I've met. Not only do they not flip a shit when somebody criticizes the band, they're pretty free with the criticism themselves and nobody gives them any guff about it.
So go ahead. Knock yourself out. I doubt your little blog will bother anyone here.
No offense 9.42, but i make fun of bands that i listen to, i mean BJ can go off and say things that make want to say "oh God." i respect him becuase he's human, he's not changing what he belives in, what he thinks,or his idols every album. Like KOL, Green Day does admit it when they made a mistake or would like to take back things that they said. However they don't knock their own albums, Green Day did say that that Insomniac was an album that was angry for them, thats as far as they've gone to discrediting one of their albums.
Have to admit, 9:42's rant does make MCR seem pretty tame in comparison.
No.
"Not to mention he's nearly forty and is still single"
OHHH NOOOOOO! NOT SINGLE! GOD FORBID.
This is the exact mentality of teenyboppers.
wouldn't teenys want him to be single so he could marry them though?
But, but...he's like almost 40 and single! He's supposed to get married and make a baby before he's 35, just like Gerard. Don't you guys know anything?
/sarcasm
Okay, so I don't normally go on Buzznet, but a friend of mine linked me to this.
Some of the comments are just priceless. I actually feel kind of sorry for the MCR fangirls because they make such fools out of themselves over something as trivial as Gerard's hair. And then they come here and tell us that we have no lives.
The mind. It boggles.
"I'm a KOL fan and believe me, I know all of their shortcomings. I always have."
See that's what I don't get. You admit that other bands have flaws but it doesn't bother you. You still listen to them anyhow. So what makes MCR different? Why can't you just accept that they are human too?
Another thing, if KOL has such great fans then why don't they care when people criticise them? It doesn't sound like they have any true fans to me.
The MCRmy is a hurricane like Frank said. We are a force of nature. All those other band's fans just sou d like a bunch of pussies to me.
And another thing, Gerard can wear his hair any way he wants. That girl on BN just has issues like all of you. I think he looks great, but even if I didn't I would not criticise him because he doesn't do his hair for me. If people don't have anythig positive to say they should just shut the fuck up. Besides it isn't like he's some 40 year old with a freakin pink mowhawk.
None of you know what it means to be a true fan.
The MCRmy is a hurricane like Frank said. We are a force of nature. All those other band's fans just sou d like a bunch of pussies to me.
Of course Frank said that. They needed votes.
None of you know what it means to be a true fan.
Yes, a true fan tells people to STFU if people don't like the band that they do. ^_~
there are websites out there on the internet where people go to bash bands, ROlling Stone, KErrang all get that, it happens in forums all over, we just happen to be a blog.
at least we don't go to MCR.com and talk shit to them there.. we do it on a mostly out of the way blog
If people don't have anythig positive to say they should just shut the fuck up. Besides it isn't like he's some 40 year old with a freakin pink mowhawk.
Okay, let me get this straight. If you don't like something Gerard Way does, you aren't allowed to say so...but, it's perfectly fine to criticize Jared Leto's mohawk because...?
Wow. I think I'm getting a headache. This "true fan" business is rather complicated, isn't it?
Wow. I think I'm getting a headache. This "true fan" business is rather complicated, isn't it?
To be honest i never heard of a band having their own army. I think that is MCR's first fail. Second fail, Gerards hair in that pic! LOL!
Second fail, Gerards hair in that pic! LOL!
This. Johnny Depp did it so much better in Edward Scissorhands. ;D
"See that's what I don't get. You admit that other bands have flaws but it doesn't bother you. You still listen to them anyhow. So what makes MCR different? Why can't you just accept that they are human too?"
perhaps because those other bands didn't try to appear as something they're not? or make a complete 180 on their attitude?
perhaps because those other bands didn't try to appear as something they're not? or make a complete 180 on their attitude?
Exactly. I don't know why this is so hard for some people to understand. :/
Dude, Peter Steele, guys. WTF? :(
this true fan stuff is a wank. It's not like they're going to appreciate you. They'll tell you they do cause they want you to keep buying their music.
Shut up Kapunua just shut up. First of all no one wants to hear what you want to say. Second of all I looked up who you were talking about. so you support a man who use to pose naked and doesn't really "sing" AND was a druggie I might add but you no longer support GERARD. That makes no sense what so ever. But nobody here makes any sense!!
Let's get back to to the topic at hand, "women's rights! Blah, blah, blah. Have you seen the cover of Rollingstone? An actor from Glee is flashing her panties! If she starts telling woman that if they have big dreams in television but don't have formal training that they should just audition anyway... Gasp! A disgrace to all females! What a whore! How dare you show your undies in public! Disgusting!!! How dare you suggest that you should follow your dreams without years of training and only your passion to carry you on. Loser! All woman suffer from your belief in yourself! Whore!
Thank God someone agrees! Woman need to stop being sexy in order to sell whatever they are trying to sell. Enough is enough.
You missed the point, moron.
this true fan stuff is a wank. It's not like they're going to appreciate you. They'll tell you they do cause they want you to keep buying their music.
April 15, 2010 8:51 PM
How dare you suggest that you should follow your dreams without years of training and only your passion to carry you on.
To follow your dreams to flash your crotch with only your passion to carry you on.
I, for one, have never been bothered about being seen as a sex-object. If men are stupid enough to view me this way, it means they won't see me and my 136 IQ coming...
And another thing, Gerard can wear his hair any way he wants. That girl on BN just has issues like all of you. I think he looks great, but even if I didn't I would not criticise him because he doesn't do his hair for me. If people don't have anythig positive to say they should just shut the fuck up. Besides it isn't like he's some 40 year old with a freakin pink mowhawk.
I totally agreed with you that all the hair commenting is ridiculous and pointless. And then you just ruined it with that last sentence...
I, for one, have never been bothered about being seen as a sex-object. If men are stupid enough to view me this way, it means they won't see me and my 136 IQ coming...
Honey, wake up! The guys you will be attracting by being a sex object won't give a rat's ass about your IQ.
Besides, how do you want to tell them about Einstein's theory of relativity with a dick in your mouth? 'Cause that's all they will be interested in doing with you; sucking and fucking.
An actor from Glee is flashing her panties! If she starts telling woman that if they have big dreams in television but don't have formal training that they should just audition anyway...
If she tells them that they'll land a role in a musical series even though they can't sing at all but can flash their panties and blow fire all over a room, then she'll be lying to them.
This is the real world. A woman can only get so far on looks but no real talent and once the looks are gone, she's washed up and/or becomes a caricature of herself.
Ask Pamela Anderson.
has anyone actually read his other tweets on the 12th? they make me feel funny
I, for one, have never been bothered about being seen as a sex-object. If men are stupid enough to view me this way, it means they won't see me and my 136 IQ coming...
Then what happens when a younger, sexier woman comes along? Your 136 IQ isn't going to matter a damn to them then.
I totally agreed with you that all the hair commenting is ridiculous and pointless.
No, what was ridiculous and pointless were all of the "Don't criticize GW!" comments.
The woman on Buzznet has a right to her opinion on his hair.
I think it looks ridiculous too. I also think Jared Leto's mohawk looks ridiculous. I'm not saying they can't wear it that way (and neither was she), just that I personally don't like it.
'Then what happens when a younger, sexier woman comes along? Your 136 IQ isn't going to matter a damn to them then.'
Hence the world will never change, and the silly idea that we could ever be equal.
All these stupid girls who think they're going to get somewhere in the world by trying to be entertainers with no talent? I say let them go right ahead and pursue their dreams.
At least that way there won't be any shortage of waitresses out there in the world, right?
Hence the world will never change, and the silly idea that we could ever be equal.
No, the world will change when women are judged on their IQ's and not their sexuality. Girls who try to trade on their looks are only reinforcing the fact that it's a "man's world."
oh yes, because men are judged on their IQ's. society not appreciating intelligence has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with societies overwhelming lack of intelligence as a whole.
Men aren't judged by their looks. They are judged by their accomplishments in the world. That's not to say that the most intelligent men always succeed. It usually has more to do with drive than anything else with men. But they certainly don't get anywhere in the world by being viewed as sex objects.
Open a psychology book, why don't you. You'll learn that men don't perceive their looks as being anything other than a minor advantage, whereas women still think of attractiveness as being one of the most important assets they can possess.
Do you think Bill Gates wasted any of his youth obsessing over what he looked like?
All people should be judged on their accomplishments. A high IQ can only get you so far if you don't make good use of it. The same thing with looks.
yes, actually, I think it help gave him the drive to achieve all that he did and not take the shit he was dealt. and personally, I think he's hot.
I agree that people should be judged on deeds, not looks. I also believe that people who aren't focused on being "pretty" have a tendency to work harder for they understand this.
I believe this applies to both sexes, as I believe we are equal.
"has anyone actually read his other tweets on the 12th? they make me feel funny"
who gerard? he tweeted about recording and asked to see pictures of people's cars. his only response was to gabriel ba though. what was odd about any of that?
I believe this applies to both sexes, as I believe we are equal.
I agree. But women are still not treated equally in the workplace. I know this from experience.
I'm a very attractive woman and I'm not going to sit here and say that my looks have not helped me get in the door when it comes to being hired. But once I do get a job, I have to work very hard to prove that I'm not just another blonde with a pretty face.
I would rather be with a person who is intelligent and funny than a dull, superficially beautiful person. There is nothing more attractive than a high functioning brain in someone's head.
I personally don't think that Bill Gates was ever dealt any "shit". If anything affected him in his youth, it was probably his size and perhaps the fact that he wasn't good at sports.
My brother is a computer whiz and he spends zero time thinking about much of anything else. He could be attractive if he wanted to be, but he just doesn't care all that much. Some people's brains are just wired that way.
Yeah, girls are supposed to be pretty and guys are supposed to be good at sports. Doesn't it suck that society still puts those expectations on kids?
When I was sixteen, I had a job at a movie theater. I worked in the box office.
My manager (who was a disgusting, married scumbag in his mid-thirties who smelled like garlic and cheap after shave) would always come into the box office and give me a 15 minute break during my shift.
One night, when I was checking out my money drawer, it came up short -- like $150.00 short. There was absolutely no way that that could have happened unless the manager had taken that money during my break.
I was very confused and upset, especially when he told me that I would have to pay the money or lose my job. I started crying and he came over to me and put his arms around me and started rubbing himself on me. He told me that everything was okay and that if I was "nice" to him, he could make it "all go away."
Well, trust me, I did not need the job that badly. I pushed him off me and ran out the door. I told my mom what happened and she told me that women just had to "put up" with that kind of thing. She said it was his word against mine and there was nothing we could do. She told me not to tell my father because he had a bad temper and he might "kill" the guy and that I could always find another job.
So yeah. The last thing I want in the workplace is to be viewed as a "sex object." I'm sure that once some of these young girls get out there in the real world and see how things really are, they'll come to agree.
Some interesting points here. I used to be a model, so being pretty was my job. I don't do it now, but, I feel as if my looks go against me sometimes in the workplace. A lot of girls don't like other pretty girls, which is a shame. A freind of mine who is stunning is a police woman, and she's had no end of trouble being taken seriously, both by others in the force and criminals.
The story of the guy in the workplace - that's sad, and no one deserves it. But I do think that things like that will always happen and it will never really change. The only thing that will and should evolve is the law to protect people.
'Men aren't judged by their looks. They are judged by their accomplishments in the world. That's not to say that the most intelligent men always succeed. It usually has more to do with drive than anything else with men. But they certainly don't get anywhere in the world by being viewed as sex objects.'
I disagree with this utterly. As the gap between the sexes is closing, men are facing the same things as the girls.
I think Barack Obama is hawt. Do I know any of his policies? Hell no, but my natural response to him as a human is, in the first instance, to judge him on face value. I wonder how many voters thought this?
A lot of girls don't like other pretty girls, which is a shame.
I run into that all of the time and it's very disheartening. It's like they think you're out to steal their man away or something. I actually had a woman sit and glare at me all through an office dinner (with spouses) once, like she was daring me to look at her husband. WTF?
They also tend to mock your achievements. "Oh, she only got that promotion because of her looks."
It sucks, really.
I think Barack Obama is hawt. Do I know any of his policies? Hell no, but my natural response to him as a human is, in the first instance, to judge him on face value. I wonder how many voters thought this?
Wow.
This comment makes me very, very sad.
'I think Barack Obama is hawt. Do I know any of his policies? Hell no, but my natural response to him as a human is, in the first instance, to judge him on face value. I wonder how many voters thought this?
Wow.
This comment makes me very, very sad.'
That's because for a percentage of people, it's the truth.
'I run into that all of the time and it's very disheartening. It's like they think you're out to steal their man away or something. I actually had a woman sit and glare at me all through an office dinner (with spouses) once, like she was daring me to look at her husband. WTF?
They also tend to mock your achievements. "Oh, she only got that promotion because of her looks."
It sucks, really.'
I wonder why other women do this sometimes? I hate it. It's almost as if they're assuming that you're some man-grabbing slapper, and as well, if they don't trust their husband then why the hell are they with him in the first place?
I do agree with 5:26 that men are now facing the same pressure as females about their appearance. Society as a whole is now obsessed with appearance.
I wonder why other women do this sometimes? I hate it. It's almost as if they're assuming that you're some man-grabbing slapper, and as well, if they don't trust their husband then why the hell are they with him in the first place?
I know. I don't get it. I mean, if you are that insecure in the relationship I don't see how it could possibly be very gratifying.
And the thing is, I usually wouldn't touch the guy the woman is so hell bent on keeping from me with a ten foot pole, even if he wasn't married.
I wouldn't touch a guy involved with another woman, married or not, full stop.
I do agree with 5:26 that men are now facing the same pressure as females about their appearance. Society as a whole is now obsessed with appearance.
I do to, to a degree. Still, you wouldn't choose a surgeon based on his/her looks. Physical attractiveness can only get you so far and only in certain professions.
I wouldn't touch a guy involved with another woman, married or not, full stop.
No, neither would I and I don't understand why so many women think that I would, just because I'm attractive. People who take the time to get to know me would realize that. But, some people just judge you instantaneously, based on your looks.
'No, neither would I and I don't understand why so many women think that I would, just because I'm attractive. People who take the time to get to know me would realize that. But, some people just judge you instantaneously, based on your looks.'
But don't you think that sometimes people can't help it, that that's just human nature? In the first instance?
I do to, to a degree. Still, you wouldn't choose a surgeon based on his/her looks. Physical attractiveness can only get you so far and only in certain professions.
No, but subconsciously most people would attribute competence and trust to the an attractive one, despite what would be their qualifications and experience.
There has been a lot of research conducted on this very issue.
'Physical attractiveness can only get you so far and only in certain professions.'
I agree, to some degree. I'd choose a smart hot-shot lawyer in a sharp suit any day. I think personal appreance does have a lot to do with how we perceive people. I don't think people can help this. In job interviews, for instance, people do tend to hire people who are well-presented, or nice looking. A sad, true fact. I know becuase I've been in both scenarios.
But don't you think that sometimes people can't help it, that that's just human nature? In the first instance?
It may be human nature to do that initially, but a reasonable person should be able to get past those prejudices. Especially when all it takes is getting to know someone you work with.
'No, but subconsciously most people would attribute competence and trust to the an attractive one, despite what would be their qualifications and experience.
There has been a lot of research conducted on this very issue.'
I agree with you.
'No, but subconsciously most people would attribute competence and trust to the an attractive one, despite what would be their qualifications and experience.
There has been a lot of research conducted on this very issue.'
I agree with you.
I think we're all pretty much in agreement on this one. Even children will tend to gravitate toward an attractive person as opposed to a less attractive one.
Still, when you get hired for a job, if you don't have the skill to do it, your looks aren't going to keep you employed. People can't rely on their looks for everything.
Being perceived as good-looking is very different from being perceived as a "sex-object".
The very term is dehumanizing. Nobody should want to be objectified.
I agree, to some degree. I'd choose a smart hot-shot lawyer in a sharp suit any day. I think personal appreance does have a lot to do with how we perceive people.
You also have to consider that hot-shot lawyer in his sharp suit has enough confidence and self care to want to appear well-groomed, confident and professional for his clients.
You could then assume this confidence and professionalism extends to his work.
'You also have to consider that hot-shot lawyer in his sharp suit has enough confidence and self care to want to appear well-groomed, confident and professional for his clients.
You could then assume this confidence and professionalism extends to his work.'
Correctamundo.
Being perceived as good-looking is very different from being perceived as a "sex-object".
The very term is dehumanizing. Nobody should want to be objectified.
Agreed. There has also been a lot of research on this subject and how the objectification of women leads to all kinds of societal problems.
I don't think anybody should be objectified -- male or female.
Still, when you get hired for a job, if you don't have the skill to do it, your looks aren't going to keep you employed. People can't rely on their looks for everything.
Maybe in some cases appearance gives you that slight edge. I think it depends on the industry. But it's your skills and intelligence that keeps you in your vocation and develops you as a person.
But it's your skills and intelligence that keeps you in your vocation and develops you as a person.
This.
Besides, looks can wear thin pretty fast if that's all a person has to offer. I've known men who I initially thought were gorgeous, but after a few weeks I couldn't stand them because they were vain or shallow or stupid. Looks have to be more than just a veneer.
Women will always be objectified cos there is kind of the notion that it's okay, and it's quite hard to shake when there are still women out there who believe that themselves.
Also, sisterhood is all but dead, more often than not women turn on each other, rather than back one another up. I happen to have no female friends 'cause I just can't stand the bitching and backstabbing. Sad, but true.
In the end it's a level playing field. Line up all the 60 year olds together and there will not be all that much difference between the ones who were considered beautiful in their youth and the ones who weren't. Unless they cheated with cosmetic surgery.
But by then a lot of opportunities you would have previously had are no longer open to you. For example jobs, etc.
Women will always be objectified cos there is kind of the notion that it's okay, and it's quite hard to shake when there are still women out there who believe that themselves.
Because the primary objective of these females is to be desired.
But by then a lot of opportunities you would have previously had are no longer open to you. For example jobs, etc.
Well, that depends. There are always opportunities, just different ones.
Also, sisterhood is all but dead, more often than not women turn on each other, rather than back one another up. I happen to have no female friends 'cause I just can't stand the bitching and backstabbing. Sad, but true.
I don't think that's necessarily true. I have a few good female friends. Granted, they're hard to find and a lot of them will drop you the minute they hook up with a guy, but not all.
Keep looking. It's worth it. :)
I'm in my forties and most of the women I went to school with lost their looks in their mid-thirties due to childbearing and weight gain. The idealized woman is in her early twenties, so that leaves pretty much everyone out in the cold if we're competing based on looks alone. :/
'Women will always be objectified cos there is kind of the notion that it's okay, and it's quite hard to shake when there are still women out there who believe that themselves.'
They're objectified because that's human nature, at this moment in time. No one thinks it's ok, it's just the way things are. As I say, as time goes on the law will change to reflect and protect poeple.
'Also, sisterhood is all but dead, more often than not women turn on each other, rather than back one another up. I happen to have no female friends 'cause I just can't stand the bitching and backstabbing. Sad, but true.'
I don't agree, I know some fantastic, inspiration women with brilliant careers. I love my friends as much as I do my family and I know they do me. Women are fabulous. But, men and women aren't and will never be equal, because we both have different strengths and weaknesses, so, we should stop harping on about who should be in charge and just work together.
I don't think that's necessarily true. I have a few good female friends. Granted, they're hard to find and a lot of them will drop you the minute they hook up with a guy, but not all.
Keep looking. It's worth it. :)
Thankyou, I will. I'd love a close female friend because being friends with solely guys does have its drawbacks! As the above poster said, we're very different and have different needs. I would like someone who would understand my emotions rather than shy away from them!
'Thankyou, I will. I'd love a close female friend because being friends with solely guys does have its drawbacks! As the above poster said, we're very different and have different needs. I would like someone who would understand my emotions rather than shy away from them!'
Sweet. Honestly, some chicks are fab. I've been really, really hurt by a few female friends in the past but as time's gone on, this made me able to spot good ones. I only have two very close pals but they're worth their weight in gold. Y'know when you see old ladies cchattig together in the street, well that's what I want. We outlive blokes, so the best thing is the girlies. I'm sure you'll find some soon. x
I think that at some point, everyone has been betrayed by women and by men. Betrayal, usury, deceitfulness, and backstabbing are human traits that are not defined by gender.
Looks-ism also isn't gender-restricted. Definitely some good-looking guys got where they were not because they were talented or driven, but because of their looks.
When a man objectifies or sexualizes himself to make it big, it's just as cheap and meaningless as when a woman does it - in this case, Lindsey, although there are many examples. This girl from Glee, I guess being one of them. (Never saw the show, or the cover, nor do I know who she is. I still think it's a shame.)
Obviously, sexy stuff is fun. I think it's cool if you feel sexy, or hot, or beautiful or whatever. No matter what you look like, if you feel comfortable, and confident, and you want to be perceived as sexy, that's really cool.
But the issue here, at least for me, is that Lindsey makes absolutely no bones about the fact that she is not good at what she does, and in fact is proud of the fact. "I can't play the bass, but I dare anyone here to do a backbend and flash their undies while holding an unplugged instrument. It's cool when 14 year old boys feel me up." And just being in a band that glorifies the degradation of women, homosexuals and minorities.
And marrying a guy who uses abusive phrases and makes disgusting demands of his female audience.
And on top of that, to make it that much worse, she promotes all of this as "feminism."
That's my problem with her.
As far as Peter Steele and his Playgirl spread goes, whichever silly anon thought that had something to do with anything here, I don't even know where that came from.
I've never heard of a legitimate movement called "Masculism." That's because men don't need such a movement: they are already in power. If a man sexualizes himself, does something cheap or whatever, it doesn't tend to require a social movement, because, well, men can pretty much do whatever they want. Yes, people are still going to judge them. But they are not going to judge the entire male gender based on one person, as tends to happen to women.
Besides, my mention of Peter Steele was just an off-topic aside, because I was a bit shocked and saddened. I felt sorry for him.
The gist of this blog is feminism, so really, your disapproval of a Playgirl spread possibly belongs somewhere else.
On the flip side of that argument, yes, there are men who got where they were today because of their looks and / or playing their audience false. Can Gerard Way sing? Well, of course he can't. He is by no means a good singer. Back in the day, he could maybe write a good turn of phrase. (There were some good lyrics on Bullets and Revenge. These days I suspect he had help writing them, because of the decline of good lyrics since those days.)
He's the perfect example of the industry using someone "pretty" and building a myth around him in order to sell his product. At the end of the day, he hasn't got much to offer.
And then we come to find out that we were played false by this image of a truly good guy, who was a feminist and had this whole social movement that he stood for, equal rights and all. Well, I don't need to re-iterate that; we've all been down that road a thousand times.
The point is, yes, objectification happens with men, too. Untalented men skate by on their image, as well.
But like I mentioned up there: the entire male gender tends not to suffer because of the actions of one pin-up. Men are in power. They get paid more, they control the destiny of the world; in the end they more or less decide what we can do with our bodies.
When a man sells out, there aren't many repercussions on his entire gender.
I must have missed the part where the actress from Glee flung herself around on stage in support of a racist band who also mock victims of sexual abuse and sexual violence.
^ That, too. There are levels.
But like I mentioned up there: the entire male gender tends not to suffer because of the actions of one pin-up. Men are in power. They get paid more, they control the destiny of the world; in the end they more or less decide what we can do with our bodies.
This.
If you want proof of that, look no further that 5:11's comment. You want to know what's really sad about that? The people here didn't even bat an eyelash at the abuse that 16 year old girl received at the hands of an adult married man. Why? Because that type of thing goes on all of the time.
It's pretty sad when sexual harassment is so much a part of the norm that people don't even react to it anymore.
*than
Even sadder is the fact that, perhaps the reason that most people have little to nothing to say about it is that it's so common. A lot of us have been in similar situations.
And you don't want to say things like that because then you get that one breed of fangirls who thinks that's hilarious, or that you're lying, because who would want to touch any ugly, fat, feminist, anti-MCR haters like the ones here etc.
People like that don't see sex crimes for the hate crimes that they actually are.
You people all take things way too seriously.
THen go back to Mayo's and talk about pretend lighthouses.
Who the f is Peter Steel?
And what does he got to do with Gerard Way??
And what does he got to do with Gerard Way??
Newsflash.
The world does not revolve around Gerard Way. We talk about other things here, you know.
I don't see Lyn-Z complaining about not getting pay raises. Face it. She is a successful woman.
You don't realize it but you ALL come across as bitter man haters.
But, men and women aren't and will never be equal, because we both have different strengths and weaknesses, so, we should stop harping on about who should be in charge and just work together.
I don't agree with the never be equal comment. We human beings are still evolving and now there are already scientific observations about women's and men's bodies converging due to a different diet, environment changes and also different ideals of beauty.
Of course, there will always be the difference that men have a penis and women have a vagina, but - who knows - maybe we'll someday have a society in which intersex people will be the ideal and the norm. We can never know.
Also, I agree that it sometimes can be hard to maintain a friendship with a girl/woman. I also had many friendships which actually felt more like a competition on who's prettier, smarter and gets the most attention from guys when having a night out.
It's exhausting, sad and very disappointing because even when you're with your best friend you feel completely alone because in a way you can't trust this person and vice versa.
However, I think the saddest part is that we (girls and women) are not doing this on purpose but that it's rather something we are taught to do by society.
Being the prettiest and the most admired by men is - unfortunately - our battlefield on which we are pushed to compete for the title of the most perfect female ever.
You don't realize it but you ALL come across as bitter man haters.
That's a typical vapid response from a typical fangirl trying to defend her sexist bands. Actually, that's a typical response from most misogynists, men and women both.
The fact is that there are good and bad people in every culture, race, gender, lifestyle, country, in every part of the world. Your narrow views don't allow for that, though.
I've known terrific men, and terrific women. I've known men who completely suck, and I've quite obviously known some hideous women as well.
I'm sorry that your myopic view doesn't let you see those things.
You don't realize it but you ALL come across as bitter man haters.
That's a typical vapid response from a typical fangirl trying to defend her sexist bands. Actually, that's a typical response from most misogynists, men and women both.
The fact is that there are good and bad people in every culture, race, gender, lifestyle, country, in every part of the world. Your narrow views don't allow for that, though.
I've known terrific men, and terrific women. I've known men who completely suck, and I've quite obviously known some hideous women as well.
I'm sorry that your myopic view doesn't let you see those things.
I don't see Lyn-Z complaining about not getting pay raises. Face it. She is a successful woman.
Is she really? How do you know how much money she gets paid for what she does?
Right now she's living off the hubby. I suppose that's your definition of success, but it's not mine.
"Is she really? How do you know how much money she gets paid for what she does?
Right now she's living off the hubby."
How do YOU know? You looked at her bank records? How do you know she didn't make money from MSI and her art before Gerard, and she put money in the bank and saved it?
And even if she is sharing the bills w/ he husband, face it, that is how most marriages work. Husband and wife work TOGETHER.
I guess you wouldn't understand that.
and I've quite obviously known some hideous women as well.
Why quite obviously? What's that supposed to mean? Anyone we know of?
I don't see Lyn-Z complaining about not getting pay raises. Face it. She is a successful woman.
Is she really? How do you know how much money she gets paid for what she does?
Right now she's living off the hubby. I suppose that's your definition of success, but it's not mine.
Neither one of you knows how much money Lindsey makes so both of you are being a little ridiculous.
Although, Jimmy and Chantal are always complaining about money (well, Chantal mostly) on their twitters, so it isn't really all that out of line to think that MSI is not exactly a cash cow.
Apparently, according to you fangirls, the world revolves around Lindsey.
As long as Lindsey is not complaining about pay raises, then everything is right with the world.
*rolls eyes*
Everytime someone says something that you guys don't agree with, you always call them fangirls!? they're just expressing their opinion. You never seem to make a proper argument to defend yourselves or what you believe, it's just always...fangirl! fangirl! oh typical fangirl! silly fangirl! lol it's hilarious! XDDD
You never seem to make a proper argument to defend yourselves or what you believe, it's just always...fangirl! fangirl! oh typical fangirl! silly fangirl! lol it's hilarious! XDDD
This is a blatant lie. Go back through the comments and you'll see plenty of rational arguments. Although the fangirl comments do occur, you'll see that they are relatively rare.
You will also see quite a few indidences of MCR defenders calling us ugly, fat, jealous, etc. So, what do you have to say in defense of that?
You will also see quite a few indidences of MCR defenders calling us ugly, fat, jealous, etc. So, what do you have to say in defense of that?
Nothing. You are all ugly, fat jealous ex-fangirls who can't get a man.
Nothing. You are all ugly, fat jealous ex-fangirls who can't get a man.
Okay. Wow.
Fangirls is an irrational argument, but fat, ugly, etc. is not?
This is why we call you fangirls. Because you make no sense.
Nothing. You are all ugly, fat jealous ex-fangirls who can't get a man.
This is going to be news to my husband of 12 years and the father of my children. :/
Nothing. You are all ugly, fat jealous ex-fangirls who can't get a man.
This is exactly why women don't have a say in this world! Because of fucking stupid pieces of shit like you! Go, suck a dick!
Second of all I looked up who you were talking about. so you support a man who use to pose naked and doesn't really "sing" AND was a druggie I might add but you no longer support GERARD
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Comparing the late Peter Steele to Gerard is like comparing apples to oranges. I'm not much of a Type O Negative fan, but unlike Geetard, Peter was well-liked and respected in the metal/goth community. I can't even tell you how many tributes, dedications, and the like that I have read through out yesterday and how many bands were influenced by Type O, and that's something that Geetard is never gonna have no matter how hard he tries to be a wannabe poser.
And I dunno about you anon, but unlike Gerard, Peter didn't seem to be the type who trashes his own albums and contradicts his own words with some bullshit pretense in order to try to appear cool or smart or what not.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Nothing. You are all ugly, fat jealous ex-fangirls who can't get a man.
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*snorts with laughter*
Everytime someone says something that you guys don't agree with, you always call them fangirls!? they're just expressing their opinion.
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Wait until those fan girls get angry and then start assuming that all of us are fat, ugly, and can't seem to get a man because they tend to do that when they can't come up with a valid argument without using insults.
Like what anon @ 1:00 just did.
Have any of you guys ever considered that some of us might be lesbians? How rude to assume that we all want a man.
1:33,
Definitely. I mean, all of us are a mix here that come from different backgrounds, have various opinions, tastes, etc, right?
I prefer men, but I *choose* to be single, so these assumptions that some of these anons make tend to be annoying at times.
Seriously, you guys. Anyone who would come to this blog and read our opinions just so they could rag on them and defend MCR with pronunciations like "The MCRmy is like a hurricane. Frank said so! XD XD" is a fangirl.
Why not just own up to it?
1:42,
The internet these days makes a lot of people chicken shit brave behind the computer screens, but in real life, I'm betting they wouldn't get close to(whoever they're insulting) and speak some of the things that they would spew on the computer.
The internetz iz seriouz buziness. Seriouzly!
Definitely. I mean, all of us are a mix here that come from different backgrounds, have various opinions, tastes, etc, right?
Exactly. From what I can tell, we have everyone from high schoolers to college students to married moms to career women here. I'm sure there are some who choose to be single and some who choose to be in relationships. And I'm sure we have all physical types as well (not that appearance has anything to do with our opinions).
The "you're all fat, ugly old maids with no lives" b.s. is not only ridiculous, but it makes the other side seem very immature. I doubt this is the image they want to portray of the average MCR fan.
I doubt this is the image they want to portray of the average MCR fan.
I don't think they even realize how silly they make themselves look. It's kind of funny, actually, but sad at the same time.
but, the people making those stupid comments like 'you're fat and ugly' are probably just silly 15, 16 year old kids! They don't know what they're talking about, best to just ignore them.
but, the people making those stupid comments like 'you're fat and ugly' are probably just silly 15, 16 year old kids!
Yeah, that's what I thought too. I think all the exclamation points and XD's pretty much gave that one away.
"I can't even tell you how many tributes, dedications, and the like that I have read through out yesterday and how many bands were influenced by Type O, and that's something that Geetard is never gonna have no matter how hard he tries to be a wannabe poser."
This is a poor argument, as usual.
As someone who cannot STAND MCR or Gerard Way, saying that he's not "well liked" and implying that there wouldn't be billions of tributes should he ever pass on, is ridiculous. Gerard Way has millions more fans and is more popular and better liked than Peter Steele will ever be.
Also, Gerard doesn't TRY to be a wanna be poser. He is one naturally.
The only part you got right is that Gerard and Steele is like apples to oranges.
Nothing else in your argument made sense.
saying that he's not "well liked" and implying that there wouldn't be billions of tributes should he ever pass on, is ridiculous. Gerard Way has millions more fans and is more popular and better liked than Peter Steele will ever be.
"Billions"? Really? And you have the nerve to call someone else's argument ridiculous.
You also have poor reading comprehension. Kapunua was talking about tributes from other musicians, not fans.
Can you even name for me one band who would say that MCR influenced their music? I read a lot of music blogs and subscribe to a lot of music magazines and I've never seen anyone claim that Gerard Way influenced them one iota.
Well anon, I'm gonna assume that you're a mcr fan, correct? Are you one of those people that will defend Gerard to the death?
Because by the tone of your comment, it sounds like you are, and if you are, you're probably not gonna understand my previous comment, and it seems to me that you don't.
That's okay though. You can believe what you want if that's the case.
Obviously, I meant Bleeding Chaos in my comment, not Kapunua.
Sorry, BC.
I listen to a lot of bands, and I can honestly say, without insulting those who listen to their music, that I don't even know anyone who can say that they were influenced by MCR.
I know more bands that actually can't stand them, than those who may actually like them.
No exaggeration either.
4:07,
Yes, despite your logic, there's tons of people out there that don't listen to MCR, and in many parts of the country here, they're not exactly popular. I live close to a major U.S. city, and I can honestly tell you that they don't even play their music on the radio anymore.
No worries 4:42.
At least 4:07 realizes that Gerard is a poser.
True, anon. But yeah, like I mentioned just now, they can believe what they like. Though I don't mind getting into a debate once in a while.
"Well anon, I'm gonna assume that you're a mcr fan, correct? Are you one of those people that will defend Gerard to the death?"
Bleeding Chaos, again you fail.
This was my exact phrase, "
As someone who cannot STAND MCR or Gerard Way, ...
Also, Gerard doesn't TRY to be a wanna be poser. He is one naturally."
When you assume that just because someone disagrees with how you put something, and thinks your argument is poor, that they automatically must be an MCR fan, you make us all look bad. No BC, I can't stand the idiot.
But your argument is poor.
To the anon, "Can you even name for me one band who would say that MCR influenced their music?"
Peter Steele was almost 50. If Gerard manages to live that long, by that time there will probably be younger bands who unfortunately look up to him, yes.
But by all means, if you or BC want to convince yourselves that just because I thought her argument was stupid (as it usually is) then I mist be an MCR fan, then keep kidding yourselves.
"At least 4:07 realizes that Gerard is a poser."
I actually can't stand the guy or their ridiculous music or "image".
But BC must have missed that.
"I live close to a major U.S. city, and I can honestly tell you that they don't even play their music on the radio anymore.
"
And obviously you hear Type O Negative on every station.
Logic. You don't have it.
Don't get me wrong I was and am a TON fan. I had respect for Pete Steele. I don't have respect for a poser like Geetard.
But you still fail at logic.
Peter Steele was almost 50. If Gerard manages to live that long, by that time there will probably be younger bands who unfortunately look up to him, yes.
I really kind of doubt that. I think MCR is going to be lumped in with FOB and PATD and people are going to look back and laugh at them.
I don't think Gerard will live to be 50.
by recent interviews it sounds like he doesn't WANT to live to 50.
http://www.buzznet.com/tags/lynz/photos/?id=85333051#pt
http://www.buzznet.com/tags/lynz/photos/?id=85333021#pt
Counting the days till she gets drunk and cheats on him. Then maybe he'll write a sob-worthy break-up album!
Nah, he'd just sing some show tune about washing that man right outta his hair, throw his ring into the audience and be done with it. Then he'd go find somebody even more skeezy to hook up with.
yeah, cause u know these two have never fucked:
http://www.buzznet.com/tags/lynz/photos/msi-large-msg-125561561418/?id=83791421&p=6#pt
her existence makes me want to be a better person. i'd tell her thanks if the thought of being in her presence didn't make me want to hurl.
Meh, Lindsey doesn't bother me. Gerard's the one I can't stand.
^ mostly it's just that she makes me embarrassed to be a woman of rock and glamor. she looks like me, but with no self-respect and i hate it.
someone compared me to her once and i almost punched them in the face.
someone compared me to her once and i almost punched them in the face.
That would be upsetting, especially if you are serious about music. It's hard enough for women to be taken seriously in rock without fake bass players mucking up things.
^ exactly, and i hate living in a world where i'm apparently supposed to take that shit as a complement.
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I really kind of doubt that. I think MCR is going to be lumped in with FOB and PATD and people are going to look back and laugh at them."
It's tempting to think that. But unfortunately I think that Gerard and MCR will spawn bands the way that Poison and Warrant spawned MCR.
"THen go back to Mayo's and talk about pretend lighthouses."
You know, Mayo's has something that this blog will NEVER have. Friendship. Family. It is not a hate blog.
This blog is filled with hateful, bitter people who have nothing better to do than discuss the lives of people they have never met.
You might think Mayo's is boring, but it's better than hate.
7:14 shut up. Your continuous stupidity never fails to astound me. And stop wasting your time here if you feel that way!
Yeah, Mayo's is not a "hate blog" now that you got rid of everyone you hated by posting their real names, their towns they live in, and taking shots about their dead relatives. Class acts you all are.
i'd like to think of this as a community almost, we actually discuss and are heard here, whereas at other sites we wouldn't be..
"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints / the sinners are much more fun..."
Our homeboy, Billy Joel said that. :)
That wasn't very nice.
It's tempting to think that. But unfortunately I think that Gerard and MCR will spawn bands the way that Poison and Warrant spawned MCR
are you wendy or her niece?
What a stupid question. I was under the impression that they were fans of boy-bands like that. Did you miss the word "unfortunately"?
Thought you guys might be interested in this:
a classical interpretation of gaga's telephone
You must be doing something right if others want to reinterpret you classically ;)
I check in every now and then (every couple of months, maybe) to see how that Crazy Hatey Thing is working out for you all. I'm usually somewhere else, reading about video games or rock bands or fan wank, but this place is still the most amazing bastion of fan wankery I've ever seen (next to Harry Potter fandom et al), so I monitor it just to see whether it's dead or still going strong.
And I just got to the part where the race fail and accusations of derailing made it in. Like, wow, small internet. I'm LOLing. This blog has been going long enough that it's turning into six degrees of wank separation. Please tell me someone is going to start wanking about butter cream frosting. Please. Or, even better, My Little Ponies.
I'm at a loss. Really. I just can't tell you how entertaining this place to a random observer...
(For the record, I wouldn't know Lynz from a hole in the ground, have never heard an MSI song and couldn't fucking care less, and think Bandit sounds like a good name for a pet raccoon. On the other hand, I think Gerard Way is hot, he's a good singer and MCR is a good band--not great, just good. There are better bands; there are worse bands. *shrug*)
I think Gerard Way is hot, he's a good singer and MCR is a good band-
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahah.
11:45 to 11:49anon
Yeah, yeah. My sister thinks Mandy Patinkin is hot, and I laugh at her just like that.
There's no harm in someone thinking Gerald Way is em, "hot". The part about a good singer in a good band is debatable.
yeah, cause u know these two have never fucked
I don't know, well, anything about MSI to be honest, but is that an honest observation of how they are in each other's company or someone just being hateful? Not slating you, genuinely curious.
Also, what's with all the pictures of Lyn-z kissing fans? Those can hardly be new, I was under the impression MSI haven't played a show in forever.
have msi broke up?
Pretty good "I'm not an MCRmy fan from BN or anything, REALLY!" disguise there, 11:45, but honestly you're not fooling anyone here. :) Sorry.
Well, the official word is that they're 'on hiatus' but if they ever do get back together I very much doubt Lyn-Z will be a part of it.
Yeah, yeah. My sister thinks Mandy Patinkin is hot, and I laugh at her just like that.
Goddammit, Mandy Patinkin is hot! And he can sing like an angel.
"Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
Love him. ^_^
I never come here and I don't have any stake in this argument at all. I don't know who any of these people are and I have no idea how I found this blog. I think maybe the link came to me in a dream. I just know it was my destiny to find it so I could come here and tell you that all of you are crazy/stupid/fat/have no lives/can't get men and have no business criticizing some man you don't know (who I don't know either, and I have no idea why I'm defending him, but that's beside the point). I just think you should stop and live your life, live your life, live your life while you're row, row, rowing your boat gently down the stream. 'Kay guys?
9:08, I don't come here to criticize Gerard Way, in fact I'm one of the few MCR fans who frequent this blog. That said, I think you're out of line.
The regulars here, while we may not share the same viewpoints on a lot of things, have generally always been nice, and supportive of me. A lot are grown women, some with successful careers, some with children and/or husbands, so your argument about being stupid, having no lives and not being able to get men is moot.
I don't know how on earth you found this blog, but I hope you enjoy the rest of your life now you have fulfilled your so called destiny.
However this blog is so remote, I don't buy that at all. It's okay to like MCR here, just don't bash others. It's not hard.
@7:53 AM
"Oh, you don't agree that everything about Geetard sucks ass, therefore you are a mindless fangirl!"
Um, nice come back there. Not.
Finding weird shit to boggle at on the internet is fun, though. I'd check in here now and then if you were lambasting Fall Out Boy, whom I know even less about (number of FOB albums I own: zero.) It's just funny that this place has been around as long as it has and is still so lively.
Wow.
I didn't think an /sarcasm was necessary.
But yeah.
LMFAO!
An /sarcasm was most definitely not needed, 9:08. Anyone with half a brain would have gotten it.
Hey, I was defending you guys. :/
I didn't know whether it was for real or not, you do get the occasional batshit crazy comment on here.
I never come here and I don't have any stake in this argument at all. I don't know who any of these people are and I have no idea how I found this blog. I think maybe the link came to me in a dream. I just know it was my destiny to find it so I could come here and tell you that all of you are crazy/stupid/fat/have no lives/can't get men and have no business criticizing some man you don't know (who I don't know either, and I have no idea why I'm defending him, but that's beside the point). I just think you should stop and live your life, live your life, live your life while you're row, row, rowing your boat gently down the stream. 'Kay guys?
LMFAO! Great!
Hey, I was defending you guys. :/
I didn't know whether it was for real or not, you do get the occasional batshit crazy comment on here.
It's okay. We do get some crazy ass comments here that are almost that ridiculous. So no worries. :D
@9:04
Neither.
Who are you?
An /sarcasm was most definitely not needed, 9:08. Anyone with half a brain would have gotten it.It's okay. We do get some crazy ass comments here that are almost that ridiculous. So no worries. :D
I would be worried if I were 10:32.
What with that half a brain & all.
Crazy VV's blog defender fangirls.
I have an idea. Let's get MSI and Frank to drive around South Central in a drop top, yelling the word 'N*gger' (since they seem to think it's perfectly okay to use that word, being the offensive and ignorant white people that they are). Let's see how long it takes before they're beaten to a bloody pulp.
I would be worried if I were 10:32.
What with that half a brain & all.
Crazy VV's blog defender fangirls.
That was kind of harsh and unnecessary.
I just think you should stop and live your life, live your life, live your life while you're row, row, rowing your boat gently down the stream. 'Kay guys?
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Hahahahaha, good one.
Most of what's said here is kind of harsh and unnecessary.
Kind of like MSI's lyrics and Frank's tweets then, 12:36.
I'm sure most of the people who come here are balanced, happy women with fantastic lives. I happen to come here because I'm clinically depressed. No, I'm not fat or ugly but you'd probably say I was stupid, have no life and I can't get a guy who gives a shit about me. Reading here wastes away another minute or so of my pathetic life and gives me something else to focus on, if only for a little while.
And I wish I could say /sarcasm, but it's not.
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