(It's funny how Frances did become that "death rocker" and who encourages her to be that way).
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
"I can't stand the thought of Frances becoming the miserable, self-destructive, death rocker that I've become"
It's great when rock stars who drink and have done drugs and maybe still drink, get together to create "rock royalty"..... Congratulations and good luck.
(It's funny how Frances did become that "death rocker" and who encourages her to be that way).
(It's funny how Frances did become that "death rocker" and who encourages her to be that way).
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if that's the case then Lindsey will probably be bald by the end of the week too.
If it was to avoid a drug test than he would have to shave his whole body. They can take hair from any where on your body.
I so want to see him pulling a Britney, hahaha!
Lyndz will not be taking part in the Kerrang Relentless Drink Energy tour 2009
it appears she has already stopped touring
Are there really people following that skank's every move? Who cares if she's touring or not?
gw must have talked frank into supporting msi because he knew without lindz in the band there wouldn't be many coming to the shows. it won't be a good 2009 tour for msi.
I don't know, anon. I mean, Gerard does come across as a bully and all, but the other guys are grown men capable of making their own decisions and saying "No." How much power over others do people assume Gerard has?
Have you ever felt pressured to do something even though you're unsure about it?. Sometimes you could do things because you want to keep someone close to you.
I've felt pressure to do something about which I was unsure, sure I have. And I've felt pressure to do things that I've felt went against my moral code as well. But I've never done those things.
The thing is, if you really just keep on buckling under the will of someone who claims to love you, then how much do they love you?
Plus, I'm not convinced that Frank isn't totally fine with it. It's not beyond me to think that he likes MSI. He very well might. Unfortunately his support of them means that I can't support his band. Which is a shame, because I was really psyched by Leathermouth. I thought they were great.
Diamonds are really sparkly as well, and fur is soft, and turkey tastes good, and sweat-shop clothes are cheap and comfy. But I can't support any of those things either. That's just how I roll.
See the thing is, at some point you man up and say, "No, I can't do the thing you're asking me to do. And if you're really my friend, you'll understand."
Right?
There was no mention of the fact that Lynz wasn't playing at the show on MSI's website (at least not that I could see). I wonder how much their ticket sales would drop if it was announced Lynz would not be touring - it does seem convinient that Leathermouth are now touring with them so they still have that MCR connection. MSI seem to like to milk the MCR cash cow as much as they can - but then MCR are stupid for going along with it.
I wonder how much their ticket sales would drop if it was announced Lynz would not be touring
a lot. most of their audience are mcr teenies.
with lyn's pregnancy and absence from shows, hopefully if/when mindless does another US tour in the spring/summer there will be no little mcr girls there. thank god. finally.
no, they will come back. cause they wanna see her, the baby and GW.
I doubt Lindsey will be back in 2009. If the baby is due in the early summer/late spring, the earliest she could possibly make it back would be in late autumn. Surely they won't still be touring by then.
we will have to wait and see if she really does return. thinking you will come back, and then facing the reality of a little baby/toddler on tour with you, can change things. if it was me i wouldn't want my child exposed to all the loud noises, smoke and the uprooting and traveling. babies need a stable routine to thrive. reality is gonna hit them with a big thud, once the excitement of the birth goes.
I totally agree, 6:55. Babies are wonderful, but they're not little bundles of joy. And they're all different. My first one had colic and she cried for four and a half months straight and she never slept. My second was a wonderful little baby, but he was very easily startled by noises for the first five years of his life. No way in hell you could take a child like that on tour with you.
Also, the sex life kind of goes out the window for a while because you're just so exhausted from taking care of small children. I don't think they have any idea what they're in for.
IF you read the interview Reggie doesn't make it sound as bad as 5.11 was saying. He even said that they had to have body guards in Russia that were armed.
You just failed at basic reading comprehension.
anon No failure here. I read that interview and it didn't sound like( to me) he was make the tour out to be this horribly failed tour. It also didn't sound like the army body guards or any of the other shit going on around them effected them as much as 5.11 made it sound.
In fact because he talked about the Russian body guard it made it sound like it was something that had happpened in other countries not just that one.
I've felt pressure to do something about which I was unsure, sure I have. And I've felt pressure to do things that I've felt went against my moral code as well. But I've never done those things.
You are 36 and live with your parents, having to change the brand of soap you use is not the difficult choice you believe it is.
Beyond being loyal to his friend, if things are as bad as people here think, then putting it out publicly will only make the situation worse. Presenting a united front and keeping it behind closed doors prevents the press and fan reaction being used as distraction from the real problems, so they can be dealt with and hopefully fixed.
Sometimes the choice is to either go around looking moral and righteous, or to actually help your friend.
Enabling is not helping, 8:17.
A united front, so they can all look like ass holes instead of just one of them taking that crown.
Despite the armed guards, martial law and machete gangs, James said in the article that they didn't feel unsafe because of all the security. And even if they had felt unsafe, it still wouldn't excuse Gerard's being more arrogant than the average international rockstar and his being cold to fans at the meet & greet.
People need to stop making excuses for him. He's a jerk and the rest of the band is following his lead.
Also can you leave any thing personal you have against kapu out of this space.
I think people have given up on anything being "fixed", anon at 8:17.
Gerard probably just said the thing about being bald to see if it got any fan reaction on mcr communities. When he wants attention, he changes his hair. He's just pathetic.
Why even act arrogant in another country where people are looking for Americans to kidnap. Most of the world believes that Americans are arrogant bastards so why act out the stereotype when it could get you killed.
mj, it also quells all the uncertainty with a lot of fans. slowly it begins to look like there was no problem at all...if you play it right.
But those fans are easy to lull into thinking everything is alright in the first place. Most of them never think about anything beyond OMGZ they are so cute.
agree mj, but they're the fans that record company probably wants to keep cause they buy the merch, and the music.
The name of the band is Reggie and the Full Effect, the guy giving the interview's name is James Dewees.
He was talking about two different countries in the first place, Indonesia and the Philippines. Russia is well known for it's batshit and lack of stability, so making Russia sound like the better part of the tour doesn't make it sound OK.
It comes across as that he was looking back at a completely fucked up tour with a bit of distance.
"You can't top the machete gangs."
True
Fucked up tour or not, that doesn't excuse Gerard's behavior. If he couldn't hack it, maybe he should have gone home.
For people who are kidnapping people for ransom, the stereotype is that American = money.
mj, it's like what's going on at buzznet with that nut panasonicyouth. now he's calling out anyone who disses gw, or linz, and tells them they're trolls. idiot.
Gerard did hack it. They honored the commitments they had made and they finished the tour.
Never said he made Russia out to be the better part of the tour. As you said Russia has many stability problems and they have played there before so they should know what to expect. As the anon stated, he said in the interview that they felt safe.
Obviously, Gerard didn't do very well at hacking it. Just finishing out the tour doesn't count for much if the fans were disappointed.
course he hacked it. he had to or else he would have broken their contract.
Anonymous said...
Gerard did hack it. They honored the commitments they had made and they finished the tour.
No, if he didn't put on a show that was up to the standards that people where expecting than he did a half ass job.
I left BN because it was a shit hole run by shitty people. I get that you want to be the place for bands but being an ass to people who don't have a good opinion of a certain band is stupid. You don't know how long that band will be hot.
Okay, wait. First you give the fucked up tour as a reason why Gerard acted so poorly towards fans. Then you say he "hacked it" just because he managed to go onstage and put on a lousy show in order to fulfill a contract. I suppose the contract is the only thing that matters and the fans' disappointment was no biggie, huh?
8:17 is some Kapu hater from Mayo's trying to start shit about her over here by spreading rumours. My bet is it's Amyranth or OPJ. Probably OPJ because she wants to believe in Frank and Gerard being in love. The Frank/Gerard fangirls hate Kapu and will say anything to bring her down.
Kapunua can't be brought down. She has more fortitude than all of the others combined. People should know that by now.
Amy and the OPs don't come to this blog. So please stop trying to pin it on them. Please just leave all of the Mayo shit off this blog. Don't bash Kapu or anyone else please.
9:04 try not to bring shit from mayo here please. i don't think 8:17 meant it that way. i read it as sometimes you do things you don't like to keep someone in your life. you never know when it could happen to you. there are always sticky situations in life.
Obviously, you missed the "You're 36 and live with your parents" part of 8:17's comment, 9:10.
i did 9:15, but i didn't read it as a "hate" comment, maybe a criticism. and i do respect kapu and her strength.
Most of the reports are that the shows were fine, Gerard just wasn't the SuperGerard of their imaginations.
You know because fans never have unrealistic expectations and dudes in bands are never allowed to not meet those expectations without them being raging assholes, rather than a bunch of screwed up, imperfect guys who are six months past exhausted, with cultural and language barriers between them and their fans.
I don't think they are saints but they aren't pitiless monsters because fans were disappointed.
You know what if they were that exhausted than they shouldn't have committed to the tour in the first place.
I don't think people had unrealistic expectations either. I think they just wanted to see a show where MCR were doing a great show and having fun doing it.
mj don't know much about bands. i'm guessing their contract would outline their commitments and what they are expected to do. and selling the music is part of it, exhausted or not.
Martha Jones, your ability to always know exactly what someone else should have done in a situation no matter what the circumstances, never fails does it?
I don't know what their commintments are either but I don't think it is right to use the band being exhausted or a troubled tour for not giving a good show.
Who knows how far some of the fans had to travel to see that show or what trouble it might have caused them just getting the tickets. I don't believe it is to much to expect him to be on. I would have given him/them a little leeway if it had been one show but it sounds like it was most of them.
I also think that he should look at every show as winning over people that hate MR because they think they are nothing more than an emo death cult boy band.
Maybe the band had unrealistic expectations when they first decided to tour for so long on TBP. Maybe they should be less ambitious next time around.
Anonymous said...
Martha Jones, your ability to always know exactly what someone else should have done in a situation no matter what the circumstances, never fails does it?
And others abilities to make excuse for why it is okay to put on a shitty show doesn't seem to fail.
^Yeah, they're getting too old to tour like they did when they first started out. This is why boy bands never last very long. I'd say their time is about up.
mj i think it's called using the momentum, so while it's still popular, it still sells. to the recording company it's business i guess. they probably want to get as much as they can out of their investment. just like any business would, i assume. maybe the band's management has to be more realistic next time.
Not hating on Kapunua. Just pointing out the privileged position she has and doesn't seem to recognize when she talks about never having gone against her 'moral code'.
Despite the armed guards, martial law and machete gangs, James said in the article that they didn't feel unsafe because of all the security.
....
Because they were surrounded by lots of guys with guns?
Why should Gerard bother to put on a good show or be nice to fans when all he has to do is change his hair?
Poor, poor MCR. The evil record company made them go do shows in dangerous countries. They have absolutely no say in anything they do.
Yes, I bet the record company forced him to get Lindsey pregnant because babies are such good PR.
If I had recently come upon the realization that my band was just a passing fad for a bunch of teenage girls that would be forever remembered as the ultimate emo boy band...I would probably be in a pretty foul mood too.
10:06 i get the impression it was a combination of big talkers and big egos, that got them in dangerous countries. 10:08 i think they wanted a baby, no other reason.
Agreed 10:09.
10:12 - or maybe the band themselves actually wanted to go, but it was planned many months in advance, and they just bit off more than they could chew.
Pretty sure 10:06 and 10:08 were being sarcastic.
10:09 being in a foul mood is one thing, acting professional and holding your head up high regardless, is another.
It all depends on the contract you sign. From what I have heard in interviews with MCR their contract gives them more control over the band at a cost of not making as much money.
Those Asian countries are seen as a new source of income for bands. Bands don't make that much money off sales of the CD the record company takes most of that. Bands make money touring.
MCR going there was a way for them to make money. And everyone knows if you want to make money you need to put out a good product or show. You can't continue to half ass that part because people won't come to see you, In the end it is really a good idea for them to put on the best show that they can in order to keep people shelling out money.
In the end it is really a good idea for them to put on the best show that they can in order to keep people shelling out money.
not just for the people shelling out money...more for themselves, their credibility, their dignity.
You're right, Martha. Gerard has said time and time again that they signed the kind of contract that lets them have control over what they do.
10:17
I didn't mean it as an excuse for his behavior, I was just being realistic.
I think he wanted/expected TBP to be this epic rock album that would shed their emo connections Three Cheers had created, and give them the respect of real rock fans. However, in early '07 I think he started to realize that TBP had done the exact opposite and had pretty much sealed their fate as an "emo boy band". I think he takes the band extremely seriously, and really wanted to be taken as a serious rock music act. I think the fact that band became known as a silly fad for teenage girls killed him and that all his strange behavior afterwards (ALL of it) has simply been his reaction to that.
not just for the people shelling out money...more for themselves, their credibility, their dignity.
Do MCR still know what credibility or dignity are. It seems like every time you turn around they are doing something that makes them look more and more like a boy band trying to make a buck off their fans.
I was listening to the radio the other day and they were talking about Led Zeppelin and how the critics hated them when they first came out. No one has an epic album or CD over night. It usually takes a few years for that to happen. It also takes continuously putting on good shows.
i can appreciate what you're saying 10:09, but what all his reactions have done is re-enforced the very image he is trying to avoid. silly behavior, just gets silly teenage girls excited.
Agreed 10:34
He just keeps digging his grave.
Either that or he has resigned himself to it and has decided to milk it for all he can.
I like what 10:27 said. Not putting him on a pedestal, not condemning him to eternal hellfire. Very level.
10:09 if that is correct, and he is that jaded, it is very sad. he should never ever resign himself to it.
he has achieved a high level of success for himself. he should be proud of himself, not cynical. it may not conform to what he originally intended, but the future is unwritten and can change, and almost always does.
he has far more class then he gives himself credit for. i think he pays far too much attention to what goes on around him.
he has far more class then he gives himself credit for. i think he pays far too much attention to what goes on around him.
I used to think that as well. But given his new attitude I can't see that in him anymore.
I used to think that as well. But given his new attitude I can't see that in him anymore.
i still believe it martha.
To many lies.
do you think it's only gw lying mj?
At this point I think it is the whole band.
This may be late but I just read about James DeWees talking about my country in his blog. I'm from Indonesia and I watch their show here in Jakarta. I want to add to the security topic that James said in his blog. Oh please, we are not without a President (the guy who died was our EX-PRESIDENT who ruled the country in the 90s) and the martial law bullcrap that he talks about in his blog is not true. For everyone's information, MCR concert ticket is 2 times more expensive compared to other international band shows here. An average Indonesian can't easily afford the $65 - $75 ticket price since a normal office worker here only make around $100-$200 american dollar per month - note that im talking about normal people here, the one who makes about 80% of indonesian population. I agree with someone who said there was nothing special about their show. No encore, no nothing, and Gerard didnt interact much to the audience either. I went to The Used concert here a few months ago and Bert McCracken was ten times a better performer than Gerard was and I wonder why The Used is not bigger than MCR.
If i can ask James DeWees about the fake "security issue" he talks in his blog - Is this the reason why mcr cancels the opening act? And is this also the reason why NO mcr fans get the meet and greet passes (for security reason, the only fan who gets in was the leader of local MCRmy so she can give all the fan gifts to MCR, and the rest of the passes were given to sons and daughters of who's who)
Its really sad that the band we look up to is afraid that we might turn all Mark David Chapman on them. :(
* the meet & greet and opening act mentioned above was at my show.
the guy who died was our EX-PRESIDENT who ruled the country in the 90s
You mean the dictator who ruled from 1965-1998 and killed quite a few people? Who when he died there where widespread fears that violence would erupt?
And corruption is problem in Indonesia? Who knew?
An international band relying on the local promoter who sets the ticket price and organizes the security and meet and greets is certainly going to fix all of that.
Dir En Grey is gonna kick MSI butt on their European tour.
Anon at 2.06
I'm not gonna talk about politics or corruption because that is my country you're insulting here. I'm not trying to be a national hero either, but the fact that james wrote about our country was without a president when mcr came annoys me.
and if it was for security issue, why didnt the promoter did it for other bands who came after/before mcr? Switchfoot came just A WEEK before mcr and they have 100 fans in their meet and greet, a7x came and talk freely with fans at the airport, the used and panic at the disco doesnt have army guarding them when they were here, and these bands are as big as mcr, IMO.
I'm not ranting about the ticket price, I'm staying on topic and said how disappointing their show was compared to other band shows here. I mean, what - we pay 2x more for a show that is 2x crappier? And about the security thing- of course MCR have every right to be careful, and they can have any security guards/services available, but like i said before, i was just disappointed that we local fans were treated like potential terrorists. Imagine how disappointed we felt when we were informed that Meet&Greet were only for VVIP kids who probably can get backstage without even having to have a pass because the position of their mommies and daddies. And btw, the promoter didnt do the same for other bands who came before/after mcr, there were/are contests everywhere for meet and greets to every international band shows here expect for mcr. Well excuse me for looking too much into this, but isnt that like treating us - the non VVIP fans- differently?
The promoter probably did it only with MCR because they were there when Suharto has just died. Since he lost power there has been a huge increase in violence especially aimed at foreigners and when he died there were a lot of fears and uncertainty about what would happen.
The other bands you mentioned aren't as big as MCR and had the advantage of being able to learn from what happened to MCR.
The ticket prices and the meet and greet issues are the responsibility of the local promoter.
It sounds like the promoter used the political situation to screw over the fans and the band.
Anonymous said...
The promoter probably did it only with MCR because they were there when Suharto has just died. Since he lost power there has been a huge increase in violence especially aimed at foreigners and when he died there were a lot of fears and uncertainty about what would happen.
There is never a time anymore when in some other country there isn't fear and uncertainty about an attack happening. Even if the country has president. Look at the recent terrorist attack that happen.
But that is still no excuse for putting on a crappy show.
The other bands you mentioned aren't as big as MCR and had the advantage of being able to learn from what happened to MCR.
In her early comment she mention the used and PATD. I would say that they are as well know and as big as MCR. MCR aren't as big as you seem to think they are.
The ticket prices and the meet and greet issues are the responsibility of the local promoter.
Still MCr could have made a statement later on about how they wished they could have met more fans. Even if it was complete bullshit it would have been good PR. Someone keeps saying this is a business and they are in it to make money. It would be unwise to piss of the fan base in the countries that bands are going to because they know they can make a lot of money.
3:52 am:
Why don't you go back to BN where everyone things Gerard's shit doesn't stink if you think he's so fucking perfect? Or perhaps you should go tell him on Twitter how you think he would look so hot with his head shaved?
Do you live in Indonesia? Has MCR ever put on a bad live show for you or treated you like shit? Maybe you should just accept that some people are angry with Gerard and that it's quite possible that he acted like a dick because he's, well, A DICK.
Stop making excuses for him. You're coming off as a pathetic fangirl, and the fact that you show no sympathy with the disappointed fan whatsoever - makes you look like an ass.
^thinks
Poor, poor MCR. They've just had such a shit time of things, haven't they? And poor Gerard. The fans have just been so awful to him. I mean, how dare a bunch of teen girls make him their idol? How dare they follow him around and shell out every dime they can get on tickets and merch? How dare they make him wealthy enough to buy a house in LA and to afford designer handbags and rented monkeys? How dare they make him well known enough that he gets Dark Horse to give him a comic book deal? How dare fans in Indonesia expect him to act like a decent human being towards them when they probably had to save for months to afford tickets to come see him play? How dare they expect him to at the very least put on a decent show?
Don't they realize he has issues? After all, he's been through three serious girlfriends in less than three years. And Eliza literally forced him into a relationship (I'm pretty sure she was either holding one of his family members hostage or was holding him at gunpoint). And he never wanted to be a teen idol. He wanted to be the second coming of Christ and by God, he should always get what he wants or he's going to stamp his foot and throw a hissy.
What do these fans expect from him? To put on a decent show and to behave like the singers in other bands? Don't they realize he's special? He managed to actually finish out his tour and completed a contract! Don't people realize he's an artist? What more do they want from him?
Notice I didn't talk about the quality of the show. Other than language issues, if it sucked, it sucked and I am sorry that she didn't get to see a good show.
MCR may not be that big, but they are bigger than The Used and PATD. Well PATD may have a few markets cornered but not overall.
I didn't mention Gerard at all and think that he's neither a saint nor a monster.
6:34
You suck at being anon.
3.52 am:
Are you a spokesperson for WB?
I see Titter, oh excuse me, tWitter, has slowed down a lot lately, guess they're already bored.
No one here thinks he is a saint or a monster. We do think he is a dick. And last I checked a dick is not the same as a monster.
You may not have said Gerard by name but that is who we are talking about here. So everything will lead back to him or MCR.
By the way the Used were at one point bigger than MCR. Right about the time they became friends.
7:05 AM
Ha, no
8:17 and 9:58 - yes, you are "hating" and you're also pulling this right out of your ass. You know nothing about my life or the decisions I have made, and surprisingly enough, you are wrong about me.
Since you pulled both observations out of your ass, you are free to shove them right back up in there.
What is very telling about you, anon, is that you can't defend your rock star idol without taking personal shots at me - untrue shots at that.
Nice anons, MJ, thank you. :)
You're welcome
6:49,
Orly? So just who exactly do you think I am?
Both times that I have seen MCR in the past couple of years, the performances were awful. The PR show I saw was the worst performance I have ever seen from this band.
And the whole "Gerard can put on awful shows and treat his fans like crap at meet and greets because he is just so tired from the long tour," excuse is ridiculous. I've seen and met other bands who have toured just as long if not longer, who have still managed to go out there on stage and give a 110%. Take Green Day for example, they toured with American Idiot just as long if not longer than MCR and yet, when my friends I met Billie Joe near the end of that tour he was just sweet and friendly as he was at the beginning of that tour (And I am sure that after the length of that tour he was exhausted). And of the five times we saw them on that tour, not once were we as disappointed with their performance as we were with MCR.
Exactly, 8:36. MCR's performance at my Pro-Rev was horrendous, especially coming after Taking Back Sunday, who put on a great show. The TBS guys (including Fred) made tons of eye contact with the audience and seemed to be having a great time up on the stage, despite the fact that they all had to know that Fred was planning to leave the band and Mark was injured and wasn't there. Still, Adam talked to to us while he was onstage and made us feel like he was grateful for the fans who came to see them.
MCR was completely different. Gerard talked at us, not to us. They guys in the band didn't smile or interract or even acknowledge one another. Yeah, they had lots of lights and pyro, but none of the guys seemed to be into the performance at all. If they were truly professional, they would be able to put aside whatever problems they were having and put on a great show. That's what separates the really good bands from the mediocre ones.
If they were truly professional, they would be able to put aside whatever problems they were having and put on a great show. That's what separates the really good bands from the mediocre ones.
Quoted for truth.
Poor, poor MCR. They've just had such a shit time of things, haven't they? And poor Gerard. The fans have just been so awful to him. I mean, how dare a bunch of teen girls make him their idol? How dare they follow him around and shell out every dime they can get on tickets and merch? How dare they make him wealthy enough to buy a house in LA and to afford designer handbags and rented monkeys? How dare they make him well known enough that he gets Dark Horse to give him a comic book deal? How dare fans in Indonesia expect him to act like a decent human being towards them when they probably had to save for months to afford tickets to come see him play? How dare they expect him to at the very least put on a decent show?
Don't they realize he has issues? After all, he's been through three serious girlfriends in less than three years. And Eliza literally forced him into a relationship (I'm pretty sure she was either holding one of his family members hostage or was holding him at gunpoint). And he never wanted to be a teen idol. He wanted to be the second coming of Christ and by God, he should always get what he wants or he's going to stamp his foot and throw a hissy.
What do these fans expect from him? To put on a decent show and to behave like the singers in other bands? Don't they realize he's special? He managed to actually finish out his tour and completed a contract! Don't people realize he's an artist? What more do they want from him?
December 6, 2008 6:34 AM
Haha, priceless!!
Kapunua, you live in RIVERHEAD. Everyone knows that now. You can lie all you want about how "beautiful" your home town is but thanks to the people who exposed you on the other blog, everyone knows you are nothing more than a lying SLUM PRINCESS.
And you, 9:20 are the SCUM PRINCESS.
"riverhead will always be a slum......they can put any kind of museum there...or aquarium...and its still a slum
Downtown Riverhead is a dump. The town board should resign and lets find someone to straighten up this place. I don't mean the old supervisior by the way. Isn't the current supervisior the Police Commissioner of lovely downtown Riverhead. Forget Apollo cleanup the streets. Southampton town does a sting and they get 20 people and you guys can find only three? Heaven help us.
The three arrested will be sacrificed to the fake mountain they will build at Calverton.
Actually, Riverhead is going to need a lot more prostitutes to handle the crowds that will be coming in after the fake mountain, accompanying convention center and hotels are completed."
The popular image of Long Island is as an upscale suburban playground, where Levittown sprawl has spread right up to the pristine beaches of Fire Island. Terri quickly disabused me of this notion. "The economy on Long Island sucks," she said. "Over the last ten years, hordes of companies moved down south and out west to unionless states where there are no strict environmental laws, and where it's much easier to exploit the workforce."
http://www.heremagazine.com/riverhead.html
THAT is the place where Kapunua lives that she always says is so "beautiful".
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That one is from Oct 17, if you notice. Haven't been here, hunh?
And I believe the Staten Island ISP is associated with your "Crackberry," yes?
We don't come out of Knoxville. Just letting you know.
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Crime report for Riverhead
Kapunua uses OPTONLINE and her ISP number is 24.47.75.156
Sorry, but what exactly does Kapunua's place of residence have to do with the subject of this blog?
I realize that the Gerard defenders don't have a leg to stand on, but why do they think talking trash about K is doing anything to support their cause?
Desperate much?
LEAVE K ALONE!!!!
Also Amyranth would NOT bother to come here to this idiotic place. She expressed herself at Mayo's where she told you all CLEARLY that she did not want any anti - Gerard opinions over there. WHY would she come here to read them. The answer is simple, she wouldn't. It is not Amyranth calling Kapunua out.
Anon please do not bring that shit here. You don't like Kapu fine but this is not the place to bring that shit up. Actually no place is the place to bring it up.
Sorry Safe but K asked for this by acting so above it all. Then it was shown to all of us that she is basically just a slum princess who probably only got into college with the state's money.
If Kapunua is allowed to express her opinions on Gerard, we are allowed to express our opinions on her.
What an idiot you are, 9:20.
You're really making a great case for yourself and all the other MCR defenders by personally attacking someone who has the nerve to speak her mind against your idol.
Not.
I and others are just speaking our mind about her.
I and others are just speaking our mind about her.
By posting her personal information? I don't think so. You're just making yourself look like the vindictive little piece of shit that you are.
Go to her Myspace which she has listed in plain sight (it's NOT private, just google her) and you can see she went to Riverhead high school. She's lived there at least since high school.
Excuse me, I was not the one who posted her private information. That was someone else at first. The only thing I did was copy it here and give my OPINION about it. It is Kapunua's fault that her personal information was released. She knew that the OPs were using a stat counter and she chose to go to their blog anyway.
You don't like what Kapu has to say about MCR and Gerard than fight her by using examples of what a great person he is. Not by putting out her info.
Look, I never go to Mayo's anymore, because of all the bitching that goes on over there, but no matter what K has done (if anything, intentionally or not) she doesn't deserve her personal shit, like ISP numbers and place of residence, splattered everywhere. If you dislike her, then ignore her and PLEASE no more name calling.
Again I did NOT put her personal info out there. Another person did. I just copied it. It was already out there. And once again. She CHOSE to go to the OPs blog when she knew that they were using a stat counter. She only has herself to blame.
If Kapunua is allowed to express her opinions on Gerard, we are allowed to express our opinions on her.
K is not a public figure like Gerard. K visits this site, Gerard doesn't. So, really, you can't compare them to each other because their circumstances are different.
Again I did NOT put her personal info out there. Another person did. I just copied it. It was already out there. And once again. She CHOSE to go to the OPs blog when she knew that they were using a stat counter. She only has herself to blame.
You really didn't NEED to repost it, did you?
So fucking what if someone else put out her info. That doesn't mean you should go around posting it every where just because you don't like her opinion.
People could come on here and post all kinds of stuff about Belleville, where Gerard and the other guys of MCR grew up if they wanted to. Like the crime rate and how Belleville is famous for the mob activity that goes on there, etc., but they don't because it isn't relevant to anything. And K's personal info isn't relevant either.
Grow up. You're making an ass of yourself.
Everyone who posts in a public forum is a public figure in a way. If she has her right to express her opinion about Gerard I have my right to express my opinion about her.
Everyone knows Gerard lives in L.A. and everyone already knows Kapunua lives in Riverhead. What's the difference. None.
The difference is it isn't relevant. And you are an idiot. Kapunua is not.
Oh, please. This is some pitiful little fangirl with mental issues. Ignore her and she'll go away.
The difference is that kapu's location has nothing to do with her opinion on MCR/ Gerard. Nor will giving her location out change the way she or any of us feel about the band and it's lead singer.
It makes a difference because Kapunua's life experience is different from Gerard's and that is proven. Therefore she has no right to judge him on his actions.
Oh, but you have the right to judge Kapunua?
You make no sense. Go 'way, little troll.
Anonymous said...
It makes a difference because Kapunua life experience is different from Gerard's and that is proven. Therefore she has no right to judge him on his actions.
Than you have no right to judge her actions either. I doubt that your live experiences are the same as her's.
If she can call out Gerard than I can call her out on her life. THINK ABOUT IT.
I feel sorry for you, 9:58.
Anonymous said...
If she can call out Gerard than I can call her out on her life. THINK ABOUT IT.
Okay than why don't you put your info out there. Because if you can called out because she calls out Gerard than she has the right to call you out on your life.
Because she's a cowardly little troll, Martha. That's why. She's probably even using a proxy server.
We get some odd trolls here. Kapu has even been going on about GW that much yet she still gets shit.
I know, Martha. Ridiculous, isn't it?
But these Gerard fangirls will do the strangest things. Like making death threats to that poor man who catered the food that gave the band food poisoning back in 07. Insanity, really.
Guys, I thank you.
Anon, I'm just sitting here making some holiday gifts for people, and you are working yourself into a frothing frenzy because I dislike some rock star that you like.
You must be someone from the board to know my age and my hometown. I realize you are a fangirl and all, and that "perspective" is lost on most rabid fangirls, but really. just sit there and think this one through for a while, okay?
Go put on your MCR CDs and forget that there are people out there who think that Gerard is a douche.
I am not using a proxy server, there is no tracking on this site.
Kate I think VV deleted most of them but she used to get fangirls telling her to go get raped by GW. Than they would scream MCRmy attack.
Just like there are people out there who KNOW that you are a slum princess. There is no difference. If you can talk about Gerard, I can talk about you.
And Amyranth would NOT come here. She made her desire clear at Mayo's where she said she didn't want to see any Gerard bashing over there. She would not come here just to read it.
Lol @MCRmy attack! And people wonder why MCR doesn't get taken seriously anymore.
Anon, well in that case, you have fun with that, okay? :D
MJ, Safe, thank you both. ^_^
No Kapunua, I don't have to waste my time on you. Just keep on judging Frank for making "the wrong decision" when in reality he was just trying to save his friendship.
Let's get back to the main subject, shall we?
So, did the idiot shave his head, or not?
So, did the idiot shave his head, or not?
Haha. I don't know, but I hope he did. I'm sure there will be lots of speculation and denials before actual pictures surface. Anything to keep people talking about him.
How do we even know that Frank ever even had a problem with Gerard's behavior?
You're welcome.
I have never really liked most of the MCR fans I came across. They are always talking about how people make fun of them because they are different or don't agree with them. Than they go and do the same exact thing to other people.
I didn't like how the older fans tried to make the younger ones feel bad for thinking the boys are cute.
I didn't like how they feel the need to like the girlfriends/wives because they are dating someone they admirer. They is just as shallow as not liking them because they are married or dating the person.
Oh and you better not make any jokes about those boys because they are gods that walk the earth.
10:19, you are the one assuming that. I make no assumptions about why Frank went on tour with MSI. I make no assumptions that he either did it out of "friendship" or just for business. If he was somehow bullied into it or if he's not the person I thought he was.
I just don't know, so I don't assume, the way you do. You know, in the same way that you assumed that I had never had to make any kind of difficult decision.
I don't know his reasons and I don't care about them. He, like Gerard, used to speak out against sexism, racism, hate etc. Now he is supporting MSI.
Therefore, I won't have any business transactions with Leathermouth or S//C, because I don't support that kind of hate speech and behavior.
Maybe he shaved his head to have more space for Sharpie messages to his beloved. Gaaaah! hahahahahahaha
The only message I can image GW having on his head right now is, " this space for rent."
If you hate him so much why are you following his every move? Why do you care if he shaved his head?
Martha, good point. It appears to me that Gerard's entire life is for rent.
If you hate him so much why are you following his every move? Why do you care if he shaved his head?
I can't speak for the others, but I follow the band and its loony fans because they never cease to provide the LULZ.
10:29
It's like a train wreck...you can't stop watching no matter how much you want to. Plus, he just keeps proving us right time and time again.
Anonymous said...
If you hate him so much why are you following his every move? Why do you care if he shaved his head?
I want to see how this train wreak plays out.
If you love him so much why are you following us why don't you go back to Bn.
He hasn't proven you right.
Kapunua said...
Martha, good point. It appears to me that Gerard's entire life is for rent.
He is like a blow up doll waiting for someone to fill him up with hot air so he can be used as they see fit. No matter how demeaning.
Anonymous said...
He hasn't proven you right.
December 6, 2008 10:34 AM
Wow. You've reached me, anon. What was I thinking? Now I have to go, because I need to go and buy ten more copies of MCR's albums and some merch too. I have to go promote them.
Pat yourself on the back, Bright Star. You've just single-handedly saved Gerard's career!
The only message I can image GW having on his head right now is, " this space for rent."
Hysterical!!! LMAO!
Or maybe 'cavity sealing'!
lol Siobhan
Does anyone of you still has the URL to those hilarious MySpace sites on which people made fun of the Paul(Gerard) and Emma(Eliza) story?
*have*
I don't sorry but someone here should
Yesterday, I watched a very old MCR interview from MTV Germany's 'Rockzone'. I so had to laugh at the point where Gerard says that he started the band because he 'wanted to make a difference'. Do you think he even watches his old interviews to see how he's changed and how his ideals have changed? Ugh, why am I asking this. Of course he doesn't give a shit.
I think it was all just a big PR move that he came up with. Other wise how could he look himself in the mirror every day.
Fisch, I think Eliza took it down. Someone must have it.
Does he even have to look in the mirror anymore? He only has to look into Lindsey's eyes and he sees a precise reflection of the douche he has become.
Elfe!!
No, I don't mean Eliza's story. I was looking for those MySpace sites on which a bunch of people created profiles as Paul, Emma, 'the hot guitar player and some other characters.
Lol
fake myspaces and link to the fic at the bottom
Muahahahahaha!
Gerard isn't really an ass. I have just taken control of his brain!
Thanks so much, anon! I so have to laugh about those sites! *wipes away tears of laughter*
I'm easily entertained as you might notice! hehe
That page is harsh!
Jeebus Christ, why do all you guys care so much about this shit? My Chem is over. Didn't you get the memo?
Pass it on, anon! I'd like to read it. Are there statements of the band members? What will Gerard do in the future? Will he finally become a goat herder as he always wanted to?
Because as I and an anon said train wreak can't take my eyes off. Also I never saw that page before.
Hahaha, I thought this page was the memo. ;D
1:20, my chem are not important...each of the individuals that comprise the band are, just like all the individuals here. but the difference here is that one in particular has been reacting in ways that causes real concern...a lot of people only want to see him functioning and well.
wreck not wreak. and I did it more than once. Oh well.
I don't know a soul who listens to MCR anymore. I know a lot of people who used to like them, but most of them are ashamed to admit it.
I think the only fans they have left are the thirteen and under set.
If MCR hadn't turned out to be douche bags I would still listen to them. I didn't listen to them because everyone else was and they were the in thing to listen to. I liked their music and thought that they were people who believed in some good shit. I was wrong so I stopped listening.
1:56. it may be the majority but then that could be a generalization.
You guys obviously don't understand the meaning of SATIRE which is what MSI is. They are making a statement with their lyrics. If you don't get it ten you are probably like the people they write about. If it offends you..... it is probably ABOUT you.
Anonymous said...
You guys obviously don't understand the meaning of SATIRE which is what MSI is. They are making a statement with their lyrics. If you don't get it ten you are probably like the people they write about. If it offends you..... it is probably ABOUT you.
December 6, 2008 2:11 PM
South Park is SATIRE. Msi are the equivalent of a bunch of dumb jocks make jokes about gays and black people.
Just because a bunch of 15 years find it funny doesn't mean that it is.
Please, anon, explain the satire behind 'Five-year-old panty shot' to me. I'm dumb and that's why I don't understand.
2:11 that seems like a convenient excuse for everything they write about. Really helps, particularly when you write about something offensive and controversial.
That being the case and all, then you could apply the same principles here; everything written here about GW is sarcasm, if it offends you, it's probably about YOU.
2:11 that seems like a convenient excuse for everything they write about. Really helps, particularly when you write about something offensive and controversial.
That being the case and all, then you could apply the same principles here; everything written here about GW is sarcasm, if it offends you, it's probably about YOU.
Excellently put, anon!
Anon what Siobhan said.
I, like, seriously doubt that, like, Lindsey knows, like, what, you know, satire, like, actually is.
Like.
I think Bob the flop learned his 'lighten up it's only a joke'-mentality at the 'take satire and jokes as excuse for every bullshit you say and do'-school controlled by MSI.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You guys obviously don't understand the meaning of SATIRE which is what MSI is. They are making a statement with their lyrics. If you don't get it ten you are probably like the people they write about. If it offends you..... it is probably ABOUT you.
December 6, 2008 2:11 PM
You have just got to be kidding me with that. Their name is "Mindless Self Indulgence," in case you've forgotten it, and not "Married To The Band Who Have A Reputation To Uphold."
I realize that lately, (read: since Gerard got involved with them,) they have been trying to pass themselves off as satire, but that is utter fail. Satire has a purpose. Satire uses intelligent, mostly mean-spirited, snarky humor to lampoon people, ideas, situations etc. that the satirist finds less than ideal. It is meant to point up the negative in an intelligent and funny way in order to show it to others, and perhaps even be a vehicle for change. Satire isn't about being a moralist, but it does often point out hypocrisy, stupidity, things that are wrong and often it points up, well, mindless self indulgence. Oh, and did you notice my repetition of the word "intelligent?"
I'm against censorship, so by all means, let MSI continue to exist and to spew their hate speech to a bunch of fourteen year old scene kids. But for gods sakes, let's not pretend that they're doing some kind of meaningful social commentary instead of a being bunch of mostly non-musicians who think that shock-words are TEH LULZIES, like some drooling first-grader who picks his nose and then wipes it on you and finds this to be the height of hilarity. They are a bunch of classless nobodies who would have remained nobodies of their bass "player" hadn't married her way into Kerrang magazine and some high profile tours.
By the way, I hate the re-definition of "feminism" as well, but we all know that.
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