I'll tell you why I didn't comment on the Cancer example by the other anon -my best friend died of Cancer last year. It killed me. I didn't comment on it, because I couldn't type it. So thank you for that, 7:52 and 7:55. I didn't find the Cancer comparison appropriate either. Because it does hurt when it is someone you know and love that is being affected. There was also a local boy in my hometown, 4 years old -he was hit by a car and died a few days ago. Would I find that example appropriate to make a point? No I wouldn't. I'm ill just tying it now.
Not a damn thing Lindsey has said, nor the examples you have given from Gerard and Frank or that horrific band MSI's lyrics, were ever appropriate. I found them all disgusting and well over the line. Are you people satisfied now? Regardless of all of this, no matter how much I dispise or hold no respect for a person - I still wouldn't hypothosize or "joke" (as you are calling Lindsey's comment) about people they know -or don't know- dying. Nothing in death is amusing or should be taken lightly. -Even if to prove a point.
If you wish to twist my words and accuse me of fangirling again, then so be it. But I will find your thought-process just as unbelievable, as you appear to think of mine. Good day to you.
"A slut is such a specific adjective, too. And anytime there is an adjective that only describes one gender I think it should be stricken. If you can't call a guy a slut and mean it in that like, same cut you to the core kind of insulty kind of way then, fuck it. Like, it shouldn't even exist."
Funny how she doesn't seem to have a problem playing bass along to JU's lyrics he spits out about fucking 'whores' on all fours and dreaming about sexually abusing five year old girls.
I'll tell you why I didn't comment on the Cancer example by the other anon -my best friend died of Cancer last year. It killed me. I didn't comment on it, because I couldn't type it. So thank you for that, 7:52 and 7:55. I didn't find the Cancer comparison appropriate either. Because it does hurt when it is someone you know and love that is being affected. There was also a local boy in my hometown, 4 years old -he was hit by a car and died a few days ago. Would I find that example appropriate to make a point? No I wouldn't. I'm ill just tying it now.
Can you tell me why it's okay for you to use examples of your experiences and hurt with tragedy to prove or defend your point, but not okay for anyone else to do the same for Lindsey's benefit?
Nothing in death is amusing or should be taken lightly. -Even if to prove a point.
Except the OP wasn't using anything lightly or for her amusement. She was using it to make a valid point, as you said. There was no joking tone to what they said at all.
8:20, please. I am begging you. I did just say it made me ill to type it. Please be satisfied with this knowledge. Good day.
Don't beg me for anything. I'm really, honestly sorry you've been personally affected by the examples given here but they are genuine examples that are used to illustrate a point, not jokes made at your expense. No one here would mock the death of any one, any child, through any tragedy. Talking about it is not the same as mocking it or making light of it. Using it for an example is not the same as mocking it or trivializing it. I understand your pain and hurt because I felt exactly the same when Lindsey made her joke. But Lindsey did it to be offensive and get a shock reaction. People here are not doing that, and even you accept they have a valid point.
Funny how she doesn't seem to have a problem playing bass along to JU's lyrics he spits out about fucking 'whores' on all fours and dreaming about sexually abusing five year old girls.
Because she's being paid to be there doing her backbends and miming along to the bass track.
Would I find that example appropriate to make a point? No I wouldn't. I'm ill just tying it now.
Yes but this is something which actually happened to people very recently. That would be like what Lindsey did with her joke about the tsunami. The OP did not use an actual event, they used a hypothetical. Of course it might be one people are sensitive to, but it was not used to mock a tragedy which occured. It was used to show people how their reactions to it differ depending on who it comes from. Lindsey mocked actual deaths which had occured. The OP was saying, what would happen if the tables were turned and the joke was made against her?
"A slut is such a specific adjective, too. And anytime there is an adjective that only describes one gender I think it should be stricken. If you can't call a guy a slut and mean it in that like, same cut you to the core kind of insulty kind of way then, fuck it. Like, it shouldn't even exist."
Wait, WHAT? Did Lindsey actually say that?
Is she seriously that goddamn stupid? This is almost unfathomable. Is she honestly that dense? I can't even imagine it.
Also, I think people think rape is funny are just plain sick. They obviously don't understand what that thing does to your esteem and how you handle everything in life.
Im a victim of incest-a survivor of incest-and it basically destroyed me. I was nine when it ended but during the whole ordeal I felt dead inside. So to hear people wishing for someone to get rape, or even singing about it, it hurts. st plain sick. They obviously don't understand what that thing does to your esteem and how you handle everything in life.
Im a victim of incest-a survivor of incest-and it basically destroyed me. I was nine when it ended but during the whole ordeal I felt dead inside. So to hear people wishing for someone to get rape, or even singing about it, it hurts.
Wait, WHAT? Did Lindsey actually say that? Is she seriously that goddamn stupid? This is almost unfathomable. Is she honestly that dense? I can't even imagine it.
Yes, she said that in the Tasteit interview. I dont really get what she means by that.
I'm really sorry, 9.02. That's terrible. But I think it's really positive that you can have the courage to strongly speak out against people who trivialize rape. Many people (and most men) don't understand just how awful and destructive rape or joking about it is for those who've had people abuse them in that way.
Davey Havok is a much better role modle than Gerard Way. He never did drugs and is against animal abuse, and hes not at all contridicting and hypocritical.
I am really sorry that happened to you, GG. That's horrific. For anyone to make fun of that is just sick.
I can't believe Lindsey said that. She's such a hypocritical POS. "No one should use slurs like that! Except me and my cool friends, and my husband, when he's bullying young girls online."
I am really sorry that happened to you, GG. That's horrific. For anyone to make fun of that is just sick. I can't believe Lindsey said that. She's such a hypocritical POS. "No one should use slurs like that! Except me and my cool friends, and my husband, when he's bullying young girls online."
it is horrible. To me it was like suffocating-like a nightmare. But I learned to cope with it. Ill never forget, but I can move on.
Seriously, its selfish to think only you and your friends can say certain things-what runs through her head when she says these things-she probably thought that was smart to say. Its people like that that make the world unbearable to live in.
Wow this is my fist time at Veritavenom and... just wow. This is deeper than I expected. I didn't know Lindsey Way was like that. Oh my god... I used to like mcr/msi ...like bought a lot of their music/ merch now (long story short) I don't. Actually heard about this site in school two girls arguing about what lindsey said. I could never find the link to hear the audio but the other girl said Lindsey only said it because she felt determined to even play through/ and after the tsunami that's why she said "fuck the tsunami who cares?" but...wow this is deep.
Im a victim of incest-a survivor of incest-and it basically destroyed me. I was nine when it ended but during the whole ordeal I felt dead inside. So to hear people wishing for someone to get rape, or even singing about it, it hurts.
I just want to say I am terribly sorry that you an experience like this, and it's understandable that any inference would be very difficult to hear. I think people such as yourself are exceptionally brave in ways that others could never conceive.
So then, really the only thing Lindsey did wrong in regard to the Tsunami comment, was to be taken extremely out of context. Interesting.
Sorry but no. She was being deliberately insensitive to the plight of millions of people, just weeks after a natural disaster. She should not have mentioned it in a 'joking' manner. At all.
Sorry but no. She was being deliberately insensitive to the plight of millions of people, just weeks after a natural disaster. She should not have mentioned it in a 'joking' manner. At all.
Exactly. If some other artist/celeb said something like, "We should tour in East Africa. Fuck the famine. Who cares?" then they'd have been fucking crucified for it, and you know it. Lindsey doesn't get a free pass on being an offensive, racist, thoughtless, selfish, disgusting person just because she's married to Gerard Way.
I just want to say I am terribly sorry that you an experience like this, and it's understandable that any inference would be very difficult to hear. I think people such as yourself are exceptionally brave in ways that others could never conceive. August 25, 2011 1:51 AM
Thank you! We're not evacuating. I'm 2 miles north of the evacuation site and hopefully the floods will hold off. I tried to stack all the possible projectiles out of the way. I'm under a crapload of old trees, so I'm hoping for the best. I'm really worried about the birds. O_O
I've got 3 in the aviary and I can bring them in. But I released 3 birds two weeks ago and I still see them hanging around in the yard. I'm so worried for them, and I'm afraid I might lost my aviary, or parts of it. Or the new little pool that just went up. Or the massive trees around my house. Just worried in general!
I really feel for you Kapunua and understand your concern for them. But one thing I honesty believe is that all animals are more in touch with their senses and are aware of what's about to go down. They will probably start reacting far earlier and know it's coming, so I think they will seek shelter as soon as they sense it. The main thing is that you, your family and your pets keep safe.
Ted, while I agree that, in time, our band will be most triumphant. The truth is, Wyld Stallyns will never be a super band until we have Eddie Van Halen on guitar.
Lol @MCR for bringing on a big name (Brian May) to the Reading stage. I guess they knew they would be a wash-out on their own. Gerard & Co. have always ridden on the backs of people bigger than they are. Some things never change.
Oh Brian, what were you thinking? It seems that nobody really gives a damn anymore about who they're associating with.
Reminds me when Serj Tankian complimented MSI for not being boring. As long as you're not denying the genocide in Armenia he seems to be okay with other people being discriminated and hated, I guess.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that they asked Brian May to play with them so that they wouldn't get bottled this time?
I also hope that everyone who lives in the area which is about to face hurricane Irene will stay safe! Kapunua, just like the anon I think that your birds can sense the danger way before it's about to happen.
In all honesty it looked like a good crowd for them, and many people knew the words and they were received very well. But they have always had a strong fanbase in the UK and since the diehard metalheads weren't there to bottle them (no metal band on after MCR to wait around for) they got off without a hitch.
I think it's interesting that Gerard answered the question 'are you going back into the studio to record an album after the Honda Civic tour' with 'yes maybe we'll bang out something quickly'.
Methinks they're under pressure to make another record to push on the general american consumer market. Viva la BL/ind!
Actually, I think him putting on weight is a good thing he looks a lot healthier. And yes he was so reading from a teleprompter ! lol I don't know why, but I felt kind of embarrassed!
Oh wow 3:19 why are you being so harsh? I wasn't trying to be mean or anything. I think I've already stated that I think it's a good thing he's gaining weight it's the jacket that's kind of small. What's the reason for you being all rude like that? I'm not looking for a any gossip or any negative comments I was just stating the obvious ... he just might need a new jacket. So like, are you stupid?
Uh 3:19 what's your problem? She can't make a comment now? A lot of people get on here talking about all types of stuff off subject of Mcr. (Tom hardy/Harry Potter)
She was only stating what was on her mind. I also agree with her. The guy could use another jacket. Could I possibly be stupid for thinking this too ?
So, who do you think will influence their next album? What about Dolly P, seeing anything his wife loves he loves with a passion too. We might see some country and western influenced punk.
I think he should get Lindsey to purchase him a new jacket from all the money rolling in from her art sales from his fans and auction his jacket and donate the proceeds to a worthy cause.
Where did you find that he was worth 28 million?? I'd be surprised if he is worth even 5. I've always been under the impression that while they are all relatively comfortable financially, they are no where near multi-multi millionaires. His comic couldn't have brought him in that much, and the band owe WB millions of dollars for scrapped records, TBP tour that never broke even, and a former band mate that still recoups royalties. TUA movie was probably only optioned for a million dollars, so yeah, I want to see it in print or I find that very hard to believe.
I wrote an email to Brian after getting his email off [producer] Rob Cavallo. There was this story that you [Queen] played a show in Paris and got booed off and Freddie [Mercury] said, 'We’re gonna come back and be the biggest band in the world'. And after what happened to us at Reading in 2006 [when they were bottled], people would ask us, 'Are you gonna do that again? [play the festival]' and I’d go, 'Not unless we're headlining it.'
Is he honestly comparing himself to Queen now? That guy is off his rocker.
people would ask us, 'Are you gonna do that again? [play the festival]' and I’d go, 'Not unless we're headlining it.
Of course, you had to headline the festival so that no band would perform after you anymore and no angry fans were forced to endure your horrible performance and thus be tempted to bottle you again, you coward.
You have to watch this interview. Gerard's body language is so revealing. When the radio host asks him what it feels like to be famous and the guys in the background roar with laughter you can see him scratching his temple as he does multiple times in interviews when he feels intimidated or ridiculed.
Also, I don't know anymore where I got this from. If somebody posted this here or whatever. It's dated but still an interesting read.
I wonder how in debt MCR are to Warner after their videos and album flopped and failed to recoup the money they wasted in the studio for the scrapped album?
According to Eliza he was happy to cheat with his long term partner with her while on tour during the Revenge days, and this was when the band made hardly anything. Some women just like the attention, and the men? Well, they just like the sex enough that they can't manage with beating off for a month until they get back from tour.
Of course, according to Megan Mayhem of the WMHC, Kat was a 'bad girlfriend' and deserved to be cheated on because she didn't 'support' Gerard in the early days.
I'm finding it hard to believe that Gerard is worth 28 million. Have they even sold that many records?
There is no way the entire band is worth that much money, let alone Gerard himself. I don't put much stock in that website. It looks like they are guesstimating on celebrity's net worth but have no real facts to back that up. I realize it doesn't matter how much money G Way makes, I just find it interesting that so many people think they are rich just because they are semi famous. I would guess each of their networths to be somewhere around 7 million at the max.
The website that's claiming Gerard is worth 28 million is also claiming Caleb Followill-lead singer of super popular band Kings of Leon-is worth a measly 5 million. Now I know that's bull.
Nah, he saves the magazine articles for bragging about his possessions (expensive LA house, trophy wife etc) and his uses twitter for threatening to punch women.
That website is probably basing its guestimate on TBP era when MCR actually sold albums and their members were doing a better job of disguising their now overt racism and sexism. Once the racist wife and her nasty little bunch of friends came onto the scene, Gerard's true colors came out and that's when his band started to tank in terms of sales.
He semes to attract racist women doesn't he? Speaks volumes about what his own view on minorities must be, along with the way he threatens to beat the shit out of women and is 'proud to call them cunts'.
BTW, Eliza never actually apologized for her racism, she just claimed she 'didn't mean to be racist' when she used a racist slur. And then photographed herself hugging two random black men at a gas station to prove it.
I think he just attracts women like him: gobby, wannabe edgy "whutever whutever imma do what I want" people with self-inflated egos and no sense of reality.
I really think that Gerard only adopts the mindset of the people he surrounds himself with. I guess that this Kat or whoever he was with in the Revenge era was a feminist or at least used to talk to him about shitty sexist rock bands and what bad things she experienced as a woman at rock concerts and he just parroted all of those things because he thought it makes him appear intellectual and different. The same with his rants about homophobia. With those MSI clowns I think it's a symbiosis between totally uneducated fools who feed each other their ignorant and dangerous world views and thus don't realize what idiots they are since they're all taking out of their own asses and the blind is leading the blind.
The thing is Gerard is now surrounded by women who are those kinds of "feminists" (Jessicka Addams, Amanda Palmer, Margaret Cho) who call themselves cunts and bitches and what have you and think that this is empowering and makes them reclaim those words for us women when in reality it makes it even harder for men (and women) to realize what's misogynistic behavior and what is acceptable. I guess that's why Gerard is under the illusion that calling someone a cunt is not misogynistic at all.
Don't forget 'feminists' like Lindsey 'racist' Way who thinks songs mocking depicting rape and making light of child abuse are 'inspiring' for the 'little girls' out there.
Nah, he saves the magazine articles for bragging about his possessions (expensive LA house, trophy wife etc) and his uses twitter for threatening to punch women.
If denseZ is a "trophy" he needs to set his targets higher.
I think he just attracts women like him: gobby, wannabe edgy "whutever whutever imma do what I want" people with self-inflated egos and no sense of reality.
Better to have your eyes open and know what someone really is like, than believe in a false representation.
The website that's claiming Gerard is worth 28 million is also claiming Caleb Followill-lead singer of super popular band Kings of Leon-is worth a measly 5 million. Now I know that's bull.
Yes, that is complete bullshit. KOL have been around longer, they have sold tons more records, and they have more successful tours. They played Hyde Park to more than 40,000 people (a show that sold out in under an hour). They've played Slane Castle to 80,000 people. They've done resident gigs at the O2 in London.
Plus, the site has a disclaimer regarding its accuracy. I think it's probably about as reliable as that bit on Wikipedia (that eventually got deleted due to lack of citation) that said Danger Days sold a zillion copies.
I realize you probably don't have power right now, and we are probably the last thing on your mind. But I wanted you to know that I am worried about you, your home, and your animals. Let us know something when you can.
Thanks guys! Power stayed on. Internet was dodgy for a while. But we got really, really, REALLY lucky with this one. Seemed like there really was a bubble of protection over my tiny town. Much of the island was flooded and evacuated. But we got a few downed power lines and lost a few branches. I saw a couple of trees fall right in half, but none of them landed on any houses or cars, which is insane.
I haven't seen my birds, but I have to believe they're all right. I hope they come back.
Beyonce is pregnant! She is definitely an excellent example of a woman who has it all, yet stays classy and humble.
Are you kidding me? A woman who sang for Gaddafi's son to cash in two million dollars although she already has enough money as it is is such a classy act, yeah right. Apart from that, ever listened to a Jay-Z song? The guy is not really known for his feminist lyrics.
There are so many cases of bands and singers playing private gigs for these corrupt despots, though. They do it and think no one will find out. Take the (blood) money and run. It's all sorts of fucked up.
There are a few entertainers that are principled and socially minded, but that's a very few. For most of them it's a business and the business is to make money.
There are a few entertainers that are principled and socially minded,
This doesn't have anything to do with being principled or socially minded. It's about common sense. That woman has earned millions of dollars by herself and her husband probably has five times as much or whatever. Two million dollars must be pocket money for her. So, I think she didn't do this for the money but for the prestige to be chosen by a terrorist's son. So dangerous and so edgy.
I think we're just laughing at what some people think they're worth.
Exactly.
It's completely ridiculous to think that someone like GW would have more money than the lead singer of Linkin Park, when Hybrid Theory alone has sold more than 25 million records worldwide. That's more than all of MCR's records combined.
They also have Gerard's worth at more than half of Billie Joe Armstrong's ($28 mil vs $55 mil), when Green Day has sold more than 65 million records. Not to mention Green Day has been around for more than 20 years and they have a hit Broadway play based on one of their albums. No way BJA isn't worth at least 10 times what Gerard Way is.
I think maybe that site gets some of its info from fangirls. It's quite a hoot, actually.
It wasn't just celebs getting cosy with the Gaddafi family. The London school of economics fucked up when they took a 'donation' from one of his sons to allow him to get a PhD through them, and Tony Blair was al chummy with him too a few years before he left office. People never learn; they're just blinded by greed and the lust for power, however corrupt and criminal the people the're using to get it may be.
That has to hurt that Justin Bieber has had more nominations and awards than MCR. I bet Gerard would like to smash Justin's face in.....if he was a girl. Who would bet Justin could take Gerard in a tween fight?
Who would have thought that LynZ and Michele Bachmann have so much in common?
Anyone here read about Ms. Tea Party saying that Hurricane Irene was God's way of telling the politicians that he's had enough of them not listening to the American public? And now her handlers are saying she was "just joking". Yeah. Joking about all that destruction and loss of life. Hilarious, isn't it?
I certainly hope that none of those anit-government, anti-handout Teaparty folks who were affected by Irene are not planning to take any money from the government to repair any of the damage they sustained. That might adversely affect the National Debt.
Whats wrong with Jessicka? I like her and her music-which isnt racist, sexist, or misogynistic. she may be friends with idiots, but that doesnt mean shes going around contridicting herself. What are your opinions on riot grrl then? calling yourself 'cunt' or 'slut' wasnt meant to be seen as ok. It was meant in a political sense. If women dress a tad bit provocotively theyre are considered sluts-get it. Im not saying using those words is okay, by the way, because in reality they arent... but I will admit I have used those words-but I regret using them. (I dont think we should be afraid of those words, too. fear impowers the person who uses them.)
“I have a black belt in origami. I have a black belt in sitting on my couch, watching daytime television, and dissecting performances in B movies. Maybe playing a bit of X-Box. That’s about the wizardry of my athleticism.” - Tom Hardy
I had no idea Beyonce performed for Gaffai's sons party. I can only hope she did it out of ignorance, because to be honest, I had no clue who Gadaffi was until this year. I had never heard of him or what he has done before everything kicked off in Libya. I really hope she didn't know either because I really do think she's awesome.
2:43, I think you're wrong. I think Gerard would care a hell of a lot if MCR got nominated for a VMA. I mean, when has MCR ever won a mainstream award?
2:43, I think you're wrong. I think Gerard would care a hell of a lot if MCR got nominated for a VMA. I mean, when has MCR ever won a mainstream award?
They won a Kerrang award for best band on the planet.
MCR wanted those VMAs they were nominated for back in 05 so bad they could taste them. They went all out for that show, with their Armani suits, the arrival in an armoured car and their performance (which sucked, btw, and Gerard's "This is for you Grandma!" at the end was cringe-worthy).
They were so starry-eyed that night it was almost embarrassing to watch.
If MCR had remained the way they were back in 05 I think most of us would still be fans. Now they're "too edgy" to want to win VMA awards.
In reality, they were probably so disappointed that they didn't win those kinds of things they put up this edgy front. I think Gerard would kill for the kind of mainstream success he claims he's too edgy for.
UGH, I jsut had to say something to that Jessicka person. I still don't know who the hell she is, but she's got a big mouth apparently, and she defends these morons under the flag of feminism. Gross.
Oh, I do love that quote from Tom Hardy!
And yep, I did read that Michelle Bachman thing. Actually that went up on my Tumblr too. WTF kind of idiot? That's a stupid question, actually. I know exactly what kind of idiot.
Also, for those following along with my bird drama, I think I've located all of my birds. :D I saw my missing one today, flying from his food dish to a tree. Just caught a glimpse but still fairly sure it was him; he's kind of hard to miss with his colors. I have to have faith in nature. ^_^
Quit being a coward, Jessicka. It takes less than 140 characters to say 'Gerard Way is a misogynist asshole and I don't support him'. Your maintained silence is defence of his words alone.
Hang in there, Kap. If this idiot of a woman had nothing to be ashamed about, she wouldn't be getting so defensive. Call her out on her friendship with a man who threatens to beat women up.
Jessicka you BIG FUCKING COWARD. Keeping your defence of a man who wants to assault women is more important to you than supporting victims of DV and rape. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Hahahah, Jessicka is PISSED. Go cry with your racist friend about it, Jess. And while you're at it give Gerard another high five for threatening to put a women in the ground. Such nice healthy friendships you have for a feminist!
Let her have it by email if she wants, Kap. This idiot needs to be educated on MSI and their songs about children being raped. Then we'll see if she feels like making a special blog/tweet calling that out like she does everything else.
Somehow I doubt it!
And while you're at it, ask her why she hangs around with men who threaten to hit women. I'd sure like to know the answer to that question.
She is such a two-faced little witch. Defending her friends by calling anyone with a valid point about their disgusting music/actions someone 'with an ax to grind'. Funny how grinding her feminist ax is alright on her terms, as long as it's not against someone she's friends with.
I get the impression is is exactly like her friends: the friends that say one thing to appear respected and self righteous to cultivate their own image then appear like hypocrites by with the company they keep.
Hi, just wanted to leave some thoughts, see what you guys make of them. And Kapu, it's nice to read that you are alright and that your birds are coming back to you. A very scary couple of days. Hopefully more people made it through as safely as you did.
Want to say first, what GW said about hitting the girl was wrong. Extremely wrong -I completely agree.
But two things?: One, he was quoting a well-known book. Not saying this was in any way acceptable behavior but it wasn't his own words... two:
He was very obviously drunk.
And people say and do stupid inappropriate, terrible things when they are drunk. Perhaps not every drunk, but alcoholics are a very different matter. (I know, I come from a long line of them.) If you read his tweets from that night, he was clearly out of his head drunk. Or high. Associating with MSI is unaccpetable, but other than that, I haven't seen or heard him say something like that again. He should have apologized for it straight away, but if he's an alcoholic -he may not have been sober enough to grasp his wrong-doing while it still would have looked sincere. You know? I'm not trying to start anything, and please -continue to call out Jessicka (I think that is a stupid way to spell that name. She looks like a 3 year old.), I personally cannot stand her. Shr brings it on herself.
I'm just saying, I think there is a big difference between people who repeatedly, over years and years (like the memembers of MSI have and continue to do) behave like misogynists and racists -and drunks who are just trying to show off while they are out of their heads. Thoughts, guys? I'm off now, but I will be coming back in later. -Thanks for any replies.
Kapunua don't waste your time on idiots like her. She claims she's being baited when she is doing the exact thing with emotive terminology like "axe to grind" and how she's trying to completely steer away from discussing her association with her choice friends by saying things like "hidden assumptions".
I actually just sent her a lengthy email, with a link to the Tumblr thing that got me such grief, too. I wasn't rude or anything, but I don't see how she can't be aware of this.
She's going to give you the sob story about her 'friends' Kap and try to win you over to their 'satire'. Gerard doesn't actually want to hit a woman! Oh no! He married one; how could he want to hit one?
Don't you see, she will not accept it because they are her friends and she will find a way to justify what they do. One thing I have noticed is that she is very good at deflecting and focusing the discussion about herself and her work.
And I'm very good at saying, "But let's get back to the point." :D
Of course, no one can convince other people that their friends are the biggest douches ever. No one can make others admit that in public, especially when there's so much at stake. But maybe she'll at least give it some thought. Who knows, maybe she'll even bring up the subject to those dimwits.
Maybe, over time, it will start to sink in. Everrrrr sooooooo sloooooowwwwwwllyyyyyyyyy.
And I'm very good at saying, "But let's get back to the point." :D
HAHAHAHAHHAHA, priceless. Of course, just like the idiots she's friends with she will think that she's right since they are under the illusion that they bring attention to serious social issues with their alleged satire and get people talking. I bet that's what they think.
One, he was quoting a well-known book.
Care to tell us what that really well-known book's name is? Because if it's really that well-known I wonder why nobody here or anywhere else brought it to our attention.
And people say and do stupid inappropriate, terrible things when they are drunk. Perhaps not every drunk, but alcoholics are a very different matter.
In Germany we say "Kinder und Betrunkene sagen immer die Wahrheit" (kids and drunks always tell the truth), meaning that since they're drunk they don't have any filter whatsoever and say what they actually think. And Gerard knows that he's an alcoholic. I still can't believe that he had the audacity in that Spin interview to say that being sober isn't for him anymore and that he has the occasional drink now. As if it were other people (his fans) who forced him not to drink anymore and thus took over all the fun. That guy must be really fucked up that he has to lie to himself so that he can drown his problems and insecurities in alcohol again just like he did in the beginning of his career. Also, we wouldn't be as understanding to a drunk person killing someone in a car accident so why should we let a drunk get away with death threats? You also shouldn't forget that with those hash tags #dieslow and #smashedface he incited his brainless fansheep to follow suit and send me death threats as well.
He should have apologized for it straight away, but if he's an alcoholic -he may not have been sober enough to grasp his wrong-doing while it still would have looked sincere. You know?
That coward would never apologize. There are people who are too weak to do that. Apologizing means that you admit to have done something wrong and they can't do that. If they would start admitting to themselves that they're not always right and do make mistakes it would destroy their whole self-image they so desperately created for themselves to not think of themselves as a total loser. And apologizing means losing for them.
Gerard is so damn insecure. You can read him like a book when you watch interviews with him. The moment when he starts fumbling around with his hair or scratching his face and touching his temple you can see that he starts feeling insecure or trapped and doesn't know what to do or say.
I bet it must piss him off big time that after all these years he's still that insecure guy from the past who needed to drink a lot of alcohol to feel good about himself and to have the courage to go out on that stage or talk to people.
And if he really felt uncomfortable in any way about those tweets he would have deleted them as he always does.
I'm sorry, but to me you sound like all the other girls and women who say 'Please, don't be mad at the hot boy/man I'm infatuated with. But you can hate the girl/woman because I don't have any feelings whatsoever for her.'
Siobhan she quoted a proverb that goes along a similar line of "a mirror reflects a man's face, but what he is really like is shown by the kind of friends he chooses." As for quoter maybe she was referring to the creator of Faust Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe though I don't think the quote originally emanated from him.
Well, that email discussion didn't really work out. She's as polite as can be, and she did hear my out. But in the end it came down to, "I'm not deflecting, I'm just choosing my battles. Let's agree to disagree."
I just said, "Sure, I'm just not sure what we're disagreeing about. Those lyrics exist and those actions happened. The language is oppressive. 'Panty-Shot' is a huge contribution to rape culture. People are telling women to 'get on their knees', 'moan for me' and calling women whores, bitches, c***s, and are saying that they're feminists. What, really, is there to argue?"
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I'll tell you why I didn't comment on the Cancer example by the other anon -my best friend died of Cancer last year. It killed me. I didn't comment on it, because I couldn't type it. So thank you for that, 7:52 and 7:55. I didn't find the Cancer comparison appropriate either. Because it does hurt when it is someone you know and love that is being affected. There was also a local boy in my hometown, 4 years old -he was hit by a car and died a few days ago. Would I find that example appropriate to make a point? No I wouldn't. I'm ill just tying it now.
Not a damn thing Lindsey has said, nor the examples you have given from Gerard and Frank or that horrific band MSI's lyrics, were ever appropriate. I found them all disgusting and well over the line. Are you people satisfied now? Regardless of all of this, no matter how much I dispise or hold no respect for a person - I still wouldn't hypothosize or "joke" (as you are calling Lindsey's comment) about people they know -or don't know- dying. Nothing in death is amusing or should be taken lightly. -Even if to prove a point.
If you wish to twist my words and accuse me of fangirling again, then so be it. But I will find your thought-process just as unbelievable, as you appear to think of mine. Good day to you.
"A slut is such a specific adjective, too. And anytime there is an adjective that only describes one gender I think it should be stricken. If you can't call a guy a slut and mean it in that like, same cut you to the core kind of insulty kind of way then, fuck it. Like, it shouldn't even exist."
Funny how she doesn't seem to have a problem playing bass along to JU's lyrics he spits out about fucking 'whores' on all fours and dreaming about sexually abusing five year old girls.
I'll tell you why I didn't comment on the Cancer example by the other anon -my best friend died of Cancer last year. It killed me. I didn't comment on it, because I couldn't type it. So thank you for that, 7:52 and 7:55. I didn't find the Cancer comparison appropriate either. Because it does hurt when it is someone you know and love that is being affected. There was also a local boy in my hometown, 4 years old -he was hit by a car and died a few days ago. Would I find that example appropriate to make a point? No I wouldn't. I'm ill just tying it now.
Can you tell me why it's okay for you to use examples of your experiences and hurt with tragedy to prove or defend your point, but not okay for anyone else to do the same for Lindsey's benefit?
So you know exactly who I am, I'm the teacher anon. Really, good day to you.
8:20, please. I am begging you. I did just say it made me ill to type it. Please be satisfied with this knowledge. Good day.
Nothing in death is amusing or should be taken lightly. -Even if to prove a point.
Except the OP wasn't using anything lightly or for her amusement. She was using it to make a valid point, as you said. There was no joking tone to what they said at all.
8:20, please. I am begging you. I did just say it made me ill to type it. Please be satisfied with this knowledge. Good day.
Don't beg me for anything. I'm really, honestly sorry you've been personally affected by the examples given here but they are genuine examples that are used to illustrate a point, not jokes made at your expense. No one here would mock the death of any one, any child, through any tragedy. Talking about it is not the same as mocking it or making light of it. Using it for an example is not the same as mocking it or trivializing it. I understand your pain and hurt because I felt exactly the same when Lindsey made her joke. But Lindsey did it to be offensive and get a shock reaction. People here are not doing that, and even you accept they have a valid point.
Funny how she doesn't seem to have a problem playing bass along to JU's lyrics he spits out about fucking 'whores' on all fours and dreaming about sexually abusing five year old girls.
Because she's being paid to be there doing her backbends and miming along to the bass track.
Would I find that example appropriate to make a point? No I wouldn't. I'm ill just tying it now.
Yes but this is something which actually happened to people very recently. That would be like what Lindsey did with her joke about the tsunami. The OP did not use an actual event, they used a hypothetical. Of course it might be one people are sensitive to, but it was not used to mock a tragedy which occured. It was used to show people how their reactions to it differ depending on who it comes from. Lindsey mocked actual deaths which had occured. The OP was saying, what would happen if the tables were turned and the joke was made against her?
"A slut is such a specific adjective, too. And anytime there is an adjective that only describes one gender I think it should be stricken. If you can't call a guy a slut and mean it in that like, same cut you to the core kind of insulty kind of way then, fuck it. Like, it shouldn't even exist."
Wait, WHAT? Did Lindsey actually say that?
Is she seriously that goddamn stupid? This is almost unfathomable. Is she honestly that dense? I can't even imagine it.
Also, I think people think rape is funny are just plain sick. They obviously don't understand what that thing does to your esteem and how you handle everything in life.
Im a victim of incest-a survivor of incest-and it basically destroyed me. I was nine when it ended but during the whole ordeal I felt dead inside. So to hear people wishing for someone to get rape, or even singing about it, it hurts. st plain sick. They obviously don't understand what that thing does to your esteem and how you handle everything in life.
Im a victim of incest-a survivor of incest-and it basically destroyed me. I was nine when it ended but during the whole ordeal I felt dead inside. So to hear people wishing for someone to get rape, or even singing about it, it hurts.
Wait, WHAT? Did Lindsey actually
say that?
Is she seriously that goddamn
stupid? This is almost
unfathomable. Is she honestly that
dense? I can't even imagine it.
Yes, she said that in the Tasteit interview. I dont really get what she means by that.
I'm really sorry, 9.02. That's terrible. But I think it's really positive that you can have the courage to strongly speak out against people who trivialize rape. Many people (and most men) don't understand just how awful and destructive rape or joking about it is for those who've had people abuse them in that way.
Thanks 9:07. Im just so tired of hearing "Oh, she/he was asking for it." and all that stuff. No one ask for it, thats stupid.
I learned that I shouldnt be afraid or ashamed to speak out about rape, because it wasnt my fault. Its never the victims fault.
Davey Havok is a much better role modle than Gerard Way. He never did drugs and is against animal abuse, and hes not at all contridicting and hypocritical.
Is he still friends with that racist piece of pink shit Jeffree Star?
I dont know, and I honestly dont care about Jefree Star.
I am really sorry that happened to you, GG. That's horrific. For anyone to make fun of that is just sick.
I can't believe Lindsey said that. She's such a hypocritical POS. "No one should use slurs like that! Except me and my cool friends, and my husband, when he's bullying young girls online."
Yes, Gerard is 'not afraid' to call a 16 year old girl a sexist slur. How brave!
I am really sorry that happened to you, GG. That's horrific.
For anyone to make fun of that is just sick.
I can't believe Lindsey said that. She's such a hypocritical
POS. "No one should use slurs like that! Except me and my
cool friends, and my husband, when he's bullying young
girls online."
it is horrible. To me it was like suffocating-like a nightmare. But I learned to cope with it. Ill never forget, but I can move on.
Seriously, its selfish to think only you and your friends can say certain things-what runs through her head when she says these things-she probably thought that was smart to say. Its people like that that make the world unbearable to live in.
Wow this is my fist time at Veritavenom and... just wow.
This is deeper than I expected. I didn't know Lindsey Way was like that. Oh my god... I used to like mcr/msi ...like bought a lot of their music/ merch now (long story short) I don't. Actually heard about this site in school two girls arguing about what lindsey said. I could never find the link to hear the audio but the other girl said Lindsey only said it because she felt determined to even play through/ and after the tsunami that's why she said "fuck the tsunami who cares?" but...wow this is deep.
"Lindsey only said it because she felt determined to even play through/ and after the tsunami that's why she said "fuck the tsunami who cares?"
So then, really the only thing Lindsey did wrong in regard to the Tsunami comment, was to be taken extremely out of context. Interesting.
Im a victim of incest-a survivor of incest-and it basically destroyed me. I was nine when it ended but during the whole ordeal I felt dead inside. So to hear people wishing for someone to get rape, or even singing about it, it hurts.
I just want to say I am terribly sorry that you an experience like this, and it's understandable that any inference would be very difficult to hear. I think people such as yourself are exceptionally brave in ways that others could never conceive.
^you had
So then, really the only thing Lindsey did wrong in regard to the Tsunami comment, was to be taken extremely out of context. Interesting.
Sorry but no. She was being deliberately insensitive to the plight of millions of people, just weeks after a natural disaster. She should not have mentioned it in a 'joking' manner. At all.
Sorry but no. She was being deliberately insensitive to the plight of millions of people, just weeks after a natural disaster. She should not have mentioned it in a 'joking' manner. At all.
Exactly. If some other artist/celeb said something like, "We should tour in East Africa. Fuck the famine. Who cares?" then they'd have been fucking crucified for it, and you know it. Lindsey doesn't get a free pass on being an offensive, racist, thoughtless, selfish, disgusting person just because she's married to Gerard Way.
Every member of MSI deserves a f****** slap for Panty Shot, and I'd be more then happy to oblige. Even the thought of that song turns my stomach.
I just want to say I am terribly
sorry that you an experience like
this, and it's understandable that
any inference would be very
difficult to hear. I think people
such as yourself are exceptionally
brave in ways that others could
never conceive.
August 25, 2011 1:51 AM
Thank you.
Everytime I see a picture of LynZ on stage it seems like she's just posing.
That's because she is. She is a phony.
Does anyone know if Eliza ever apologized for saying the n word?
I believe Eliza did apologize.
Yes she did apologize.
No need to thank me GG.
Everyone else in the path of the storm, stay safe!
Are you in the path of the storm, Kapunua? I heard earlier it might hit Long Island.
For you and everyone else affected, stay safe. Good luck.
Yeah, ugh, it looks pretty bad for us. Hopefully it will downgrade before landfall! I have so many animals!
Kapunua, please stay safe. Hoping for the best for everyone in the East Coast.
I just barely miss the storm... Good Luck Kapunua!
I'm so sorry Kapunua. I can only imagine how fearful you are for them.
Thank you! We're not evacuating. I'm 2 miles north of the evacuation site and hopefully the floods will hold off. I tried to stack all the possible projectiles out of the way. I'm under a crapload of old trees, so I'm hoping for the best. I'm really worried about the birds. O_O
I don't know how many birds you have. Is there any possibility you can get your hands on a large cage and bring them indoors until it passes?
I've got 3 in the aviary and I can bring them in. But I released 3 birds two weeks ago and I still see them hanging around in the yard. I'm so worried for them, and I'm afraid I might lost my aviary, or parts of it. Or the new little pool that just went up. Or the massive trees around my house. Just worried in general!
I really feel for you Kapunua and understand your concern for them. But one thing I honesty believe is that all animals are more in touch with their senses and are aware of what's about to go down. They will probably start reacting far earlier and know it's coming, so I think they will seek shelter as soon as they sense it. The main thing is that you, your family and your pets keep safe.
Thanks anon, I do hpe you're right! ^_^
One can only hope...and have some faith
Didn't MCR do so well at Reading! Anyone would think that all the talk of them breaking up is a load of shit.
I agree.
Ted, while I agree that, in time, our band will be most triumphant. The truth is, Wyld Stallyns will never be a super band until we have Eddie Van Halen on guitar.
MCR are a cartoon band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4F1ipa5HdQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=242s
Gerard shouting "little boys! little girls!" through a rather sexual and agressive song. The gruesome MCRSI mutation, ladies and gentlemen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4F1ipa5HdQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=242s
Gerard shouting "little boys! little girls!" through a rather sexual and agressive song. The gruesome MCRSI mutation, ladies and gentlemen.
You get off on mangling things. That's pathetic.
Very funny 5:56.
You totally killed us, you evil metal dickweeds!
Lol @MCR for bringing on a big name (Brian May) to the Reading stage. I guess they knew they would be a wash-out on their own. Gerard & Co. have always ridden on the backs of people bigger than they are. Some things never change.
Lol @MCR for bringing on a big name (Brian May) to the Reading stage.
The real reason he was there was brush up their knowledge on the laws of thermodynamics backstage.
Oh Brian, what were you thinking? It seems that nobody really gives a damn anymore about who they're associating with.
Reminds me when Serj Tankian complimented MSI for not being boring. As long as you're not denying the genocide in Armenia he seems to be okay with other people being discriminated and hated, I guess.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that they asked Brian May to play with them so that they wouldn't get bottled this time?
Well Brian May didn't come out until the end of the set. If bottles were going to be thrown they had plenty of time at the beginning.
I also hope that everyone who lives in the area which is about to face hurricane Irene will stay safe!
Kapunua, just like the anon I think that your birds can sense the danger way before it's about to happen.
Maybe people were too drunk to be bothered to bottle MCR?
In all honesty it looked like a good crowd for them, and many people knew the words and they were received very well. But they have always had a strong fanbase in the UK and since the diehard metalheads weren't there to bottle them (no metal band on after MCR to wait around for) they got off without a hitch.
I think it's interesting that Gerard answered the question 'are you going back into the studio to record an album after the Honda Civic tour' with 'yes maybe we'll bang out something quickly'.
Methinks they're under pressure to make another record to push on the general american consumer market. Viva la BL/ind!
Either that jacket got too small or Gerard is really enjoying himself these days.
It looks like he's reading the lyrics from a teleprompter here. I guess that's what he thought is what people at Reading do on stage.
Bwahahahaha
Btw, thanks for making Freddie roll in his grave, clown.
Call out the man's violent threats towards women, not his love handles. His BMI has no bearing on his ability to act like a misogynist tool.
Actually, I think him putting on weight is a good thing he looks a lot healthier. And yes he was so reading from a teleprompter ! lol I don't know why, but I felt kind of embarrassed!
Me too! I had one hand on my hip in shock that he didn't know the words and the other hand covering my face!
Thanks, Siobhan! It's just starting to get windy and rainy here right now. Waiting it out!
Ugh, Brian May. Well, maybe he doesn't follow MCR and doesn't know about the things that they say? I'd really rather believe that. O_O
Please be safe Kapunua. All the best.
Either that jacket got too small or Gerard is really enjoying himself these days.
Are you stupid? What does his shape have to do with anything?
Oh wow 3:19 why are you being so harsh? I wasn't trying to be mean or anything. I think I've already stated that I think it's a good thing he's gaining weight it's the jacket that's kind of small. What's the reason for you being all rude like that? I'm not looking for a any gossip or any negative comments I was just stating the obvious ... he just might need a new jacket.
So like, are you stupid?
I think most of the crowd who weren't MCR fans had already left. Besides, Brian May's appearance had already been leaked (on purpose, I'm sure).
I have to say that I am disappointed in Brian, but then MCR did copy Queen rather shamelessly on TBP, so I guess the guy was flattered.
At any rate, I doubt any new fans were won by MCR.
I was just stating the obvious ... he just might need a new jacket.
I think he might need a new brain...just stating the obvious.
Uh 3:19 what's your problem?
She can't make a comment now?
A lot of people get on here talking about all types of stuff off subject of Mcr.
(Tom hardy/Harry Potter)
She was only stating what was on her mind. I also agree with her. The guy could use another jacket. Could I possibly be stupid for thinking this too ?
So, who do you think will influence their next album? What about Dolly P, seeing anything his wife loves he loves with a passion too. We might see some country and western influenced punk.
Why they might even get the ol' rhinestone cowboy himself to join them on stage.
She was only stating what was on her mind. I also agree with her. The guy could use another jacket.
Why don't you buy him one and send it to him.
You guys are catty today. Over a jacket seriously?
If he wants a new jacket he'll by one. Man's a what, millionaire, or high thousandaire? You all better Leave that jacket alone! lol
I think he should get Lindsey to purchase him a new jacket from all the money rolling in from her art sales from his fans and auction his jacket and donate the proceeds to a worthy cause.
last I looked he was worth something like 28 million... I think thats right
Where did you find that he was worth 28 million?? I'd be surprised if he is worth even 5. I've always been under the impression that while they are all relatively comfortable financially, they are no where near multi-multi millionaires. His comic couldn't have brought him in that much, and the band owe WB millions of dollars for scrapped records, TBP tour that never broke even, and a former band mate that still recoups royalties. TUA movie was probably only optioned for a million dollars, so yeah, I want to see it in print or I find that very hard to believe.
http://www.nme.com/news/my-chemical-romance/58887
I don't think how much money they have has any relevance...or maybe it does as it can easily corrupt some people.
I would say his jacket shrunk after he washed it,but i don't think he washes his clothes so maybe he is suffering from PMS.
WHO cares about his jacket!
Sheesh.
I wrote an email to Brian after getting his email off [producer] Rob Cavallo. There was this story that you [Queen] played a show in Paris and got booed off and Freddie [Mercury] said, 'We’re gonna come back and be the biggest band in the world'. And after what happened to us at Reading in 2006 [when they were bottled], people would ask us, 'Are you gonna do that again? [play the festival]' and I’d go, 'Not unless we're headlining it.'
Is he honestly comparing himself to Queen now? That guy is off his rocker.
people would ask us, 'Are you gonna do that again? [play the festival]' and I’d go, 'Not unless we're headlining it.
Of course, you had to headline the festival so that no band would perform after you anymore and no angry fans were forced to endure your horrible performance and thus be tempted to bottle you again, you coward.
That guy is off his rocker
Nope, he's just big-headed, arrogant and STOOPID!
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/gerard-net-worth/
this is where i got it
yum
You have to watch this interview.
Gerard's body language is so revealing. When the radio host asks him what it feels like to be famous and the guys in the background roar with laughter you can see him scratching his temple as he does multiple times in interviews when he feels intimidated or ridiculed.
Also, I don't know anymore where I got this from. If somebody posted this here or whatever. It's dated but still an interesting read.
I'm finding it hard to believe that Gerard is worth 28 million. Have they even sold that many records?
Lol at GW's Liberace hair!
With 28 million he must have plenty of women throwing themselves at him.
I wonder how in debt MCR are to Warner after their videos and album flopped and failed to recoup the money they wasted in the studio for the scrapped album?
You can buy a lot of silence with 28 million. Not everyone's a gossip like Eliza was.
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/62275651.html
Sounds like another case (like MSI) of people pulling out the 'satire!' defence when offence was all they intended in the first place.
You can buy a lot of silence with 28 million. Not everyone's a gossip like Eliza was.
That sounds like such a fun life. 28 million isn't worth living like that.
According to Eliza he was happy to cheat with his long term partner with her while on tour during the Revenge days, and this was when the band made hardly anything. Some women just like the attention, and the men? Well, they just like the sex enough that they can't manage with beating off for a month until they get back from tour.
Of course, according to Megan Mayhem of the WMHC, Kat was a 'bad girlfriend' and deserved to be cheated on because she didn't 'support' Gerard in the early days.
All the money in the world wouldn't compensate to be with someone you just can't trust.
I'm finding it hard to believe that Gerard is worth 28 million. Have they even sold that many records?
There is no way the entire band is worth that much money, let alone Gerard himself. I don't put much stock in that website. It looks like they are guesstimating on celebrity's net worth but have no real facts to back that up. I realize it doesn't matter how much money G Way makes, I just find it interesting that so many people think they are rich just because they are semi famous. I would guess each of their networths to be somewhere around 7 million at the max.
All the money in the world wouldn't compensate to be with someone you just can't trust.
Some women just want to believe they're 'the one' who can change a cheater.
The website that's claiming Gerard is worth 28 million is also claiming Caleb Followill-lead singer of super popular band Kings of Leon-is worth a measly 5 million. Now I know that's bull.
Plus, if G.Way was really worth that much, I have a feeling he would have proudly blabbed about it on his Twitter.
Nah, he saves the magazine articles for bragging about his possessions (expensive LA house, trophy wife etc) and his uses twitter for threatening to punch women.
That website is probably basing its guestimate on TBP era when MCR actually sold albums and their members were doing a better job of disguising their now overt racism and sexism. Once the racist wife and her nasty little bunch of friends came onto the scene, Gerard's true colors came out and that's when his band started to tank in terms of sales.
He semes to attract racist women doesn't he? Speaks volumes about what his own view on minorities must be, along with the way he threatens to beat the shit out of women and is 'proud to call them cunts'.
BTW, Eliza never actually apologized for her racism, she just claimed she 'didn't mean to be racist' when she used a racist slur. And then photographed herself hugging two random black men at a gas station to prove it.
*he seems
I think he just attracts women like him: gobby, wannabe edgy "whutever whutever imma do what I want" people with self-inflated egos and no sense of reality.
I really think that Gerard only adopts the mindset of the people he surrounds himself with. I guess that this Kat or whoever he was with in the Revenge era was a feminist or at least used to talk to him about shitty sexist rock bands and what bad things she experienced as a woman at rock concerts and he just parroted all of those things because he thought it makes him appear intellectual and different. The same with his rants about homophobia.
With those MSI clowns I think it's a symbiosis between totally uneducated fools who feed each other their ignorant and dangerous world views and thus don't realize what idiots they are since they're all taking out of their own asses and the blind is leading the blind.
The thing is Gerard is now surrounded by women who are those kinds of "feminists" (Jessicka Addams, Amanda Palmer, Margaret Cho) who call themselves cunts and bitches and what have you and think that this is empowering and makes them reclaim those words for us women when in reality it makes it even harder for men (and women) to realize what's misogynistic behavior and what is acceptable. I guess that's why Gerard is under the illusion that calling someone a cunt is not misogynistic at all.
Tired haters.
Go celebrate Gerard wanting to hit women, troll.
Don't forget 'feminists' like Lindsey 'racist' Way who thinks songs mocking depicting rape and making light of child abuse are 'inspiring' for the 'little girls' out there.
Kapunua are you ok?
Jessicka Adams is to feminism as what pigs are to flying.
Nah, he saves the magazine articles for bragging about his possessions (expensive LA house, trophy wife etc) and his uses twitter for threatening to punch women.
If denseZ is a "trophy" he needs to set his targets higher.
I think he just attracts women like him: gobby, wannabe edgy "whutever whutever imma do what I want" people with self-inflated egos and no sense of reality.
Better to have your eyes open and know what someone really is like, than believe in a false representation.
The website that's claiming Gerard is worth 28 million is also claiming Caleb Followill-lead singer of super popular band Kings of Leon-is worth a measly 5 million. Now I know that's bull.
Yes, that is complete bullshit. KOL have been around longer, they have sold tons more records, and they have more successful tours. They played Hyde Park to more than 40,000 people (a show that sold out in under an hour). They've played Slane Castle to 80,000 people. They've done resident gigs at the O2 in London.
Plus, the site has a disclaimer regarding its accuracy. I think it's probably about as reliable as that bit on Wikipedia (that eventually got deleted due to lack of citation) that said Danger Days sold a zillion copies.
Kapunua,
I realize you probably don't have power right now, and we are probably the last thing on your mind. But I wanted you to know that I am worried about you, your home, and your animals. Let us know something when you can.
LOL, that idiotic site says that Chester Bennington from Linkin Park is only worth 25 million.
Yeah. It's complete bullshit alright.
Thanks guys! Power stayed on. Internet was dodgy for a while. But we got really, really, REALLY lucky with this one. Seemed like there really was a bubble of protection over my tiny town. Much of the island was flooded and evacuated. But we got a few downed power lines and lost a few branches. I saw a couple of trees fall right in half, but none of them landed on any houses or cars, which is insane.
I haven't seen my birds, but I have to believe they're all right. I hope they come back.
Thanks, guys!
Kapunua, it's good to read you're fine.
I also have a feeling that your birds are well. Hopefully you will see them soon.
Why are some of you so concerned about what they're worth? They can have all the money in the world and it still doesn't make them special.
I think we're just laughing at what some people think they're worth.
Beyonce is pregnant! She is definitely an excellent example of a woman who has it all, yet stays classy and humble.
Beyonce is pregnant! She is definitely an excellent example of a woman who has it all, yet stays classy and humble.
Are you kidding me? A woman who sang for Gaddafi's son to cash in two million dollars although she already has enough money as it is is such a classy act, yeah right.
Apart from that, ever listened to a Jay-Z song? The guy is not really known for his feminist lyrics.
That Gaddafi thing was so fucking dodgy.
There are so many cases of bands and singers playing private gigs for these corrupt despots, though. They do it and think no one will find out. Take the (blood) money and run. It's all sorts of fucked up.
There are a few entertainers that are principled and socially minded, but that's a very few. For most of them it's a business and the business is to make money.
There are a few entertainers that are principled and socially minded,
This doesn't have anything to do with being principled or socially minded. It's about common sense. That woman has earned millions of dollars by herself and her husband probably has five times as much or whatever. Two million dollars must be pocket money for her. So, I think she didn't do this for the money but for the prestige to be chosen by a terrorist's son. So dangerous and so edgy.
It doesn't matter how much they have, it's still all about the money.
I think we're just laughing at what some people think they're worth.
Exactly.
It's completely ridiculous to think that someone like GW would have more money than the lead singer of Linkin Park, when Hybrid Theory alone has sold more than 25 million records worldwide. That's more than all of MCR's records combined.
They also have Gerard's worth at more than half of Billie Joe Armstrong's ($28 mil vs $55 mil), when Green Day has sold more than 65 million records. Not to mention Green Day has been around for more than 20 years and they have a hit Broadway play based on one of their albums. No way BJA isn't worth at least 10 times what Gerard Way is.
I think maybe that site gets some of its info from fangirls. It's quite a hoot, actually.
WTF, did she really? That's disgusting! What the hell? I had no idea. Ugh. That's purely insane.
Siobhan, thanks for the reblog, too! Loved that article. It said it so perfectly.
Hey guys hey. Still haven't seen my birds but I am holding out hope. :)
It wasn't just celebs getting cosy with the Gaddafi family. The London school of economics fucked up when they took a 'donation' from one of his sons to allow him to get a PhD through them, and Tony Blair was al chummy with him too a few years before he left office. People never learn; they're just blinded by greed and the lust for power, however corrupt and criminal the people the're using to get it may be.
I wonder if Lindsey has a joke ready about touring the east coast.
That article was great, Kapunua. Thanks for bringing it to my attention in the first place.
I hope your birds come back soon.
Did anyone of you watch the VMAs? Were MCR nominated for an award or did they win one? I guess not.
That has to hurt that Justin Bieber has had more nominations and awards than MCR. I bet Gerard would like to smash Justin's face in.....if he was a girl. Who would bet Justin could take Gerard in a tween fight?
Seriously why would anyone care about a VMA award? Like they mean anything. And even though Gerard is stupid, I doubt he would care about it either.
Who would have thought that LynZ and Michele Bachmann have so much in common?
Anyone here read about Ms. Tea Party saying that Hurricane Irene was God's way of telling the politicians that he's had enough of them not listening to the American public? And now her handlers are saying she was "just joking". Yeah. Joking about all that destruction and loss of life. Hilarious, isn't it?
I certainly hope that none of those anit-government, anti-handout Teaparty folks who were affected by Irene are not planning to take any money from the government to repair any of the damage they sustained. That might adversely affect the National Debt.
Whats wrong with Jessicka? I like her and her music-which isnt racist, sexist, or misogynistic. she may be friends with idiots, but that doesnt mean shes going around contridicting herself. What are your opinions on riot grrl then? calling yourself 'cunt' or 'slut' wasnt meant to be seen as ok. It was meant in a political sense. If women dress a tad bit provocotively theyre are considered sluts-get it. Im not saying using those words is okay, by the way, because in reality they arent... but I will admit I have used those words-but I regret using them. (I dont think we should be afraid of those words, too. fear impowers the person who uses them.)
“I have a black belt in origami. I have a black belt in sitting on my couch, watching daytime television, and dissecting performances in B movies. Maybe playing a bit of X-Box. That’s about the wizardry of my athleticism.” - Tom Hardy
Such a cutie-pie!
Yum indeed 2:36.
I woke up in a bed with a dude with a gun, naked, with a cat
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I had no idea Beyonce performed for Gaffai's sons party. I can only hope she did it out of ignorance, because to be honest, I had no clue who Gadaffi was until this year. I had never heard of him or what he has done before everything kicked off in Libya. I really hope she didn't know either because I really do think she's awesome.
2:43, I think you're wrong. I think Gerard would care a hell of a lot if MCR got nominated for a VMA. I mean, when has MCR ever won a mainstream award?
Didn't they win that finger award that night they played with balaclavas?
What's your problem 3:55? Don't like looking at sexy men, only "fredard" pictures? Eww.
Didn't they win that finger award that night they played with balaclavas?
You know it would have been a marvelous idea if they kept those balaclavas on indefinitely ^_^
Uh? Watchoo talkin about 4:21? I adore Tom Hardy.
2:43, I think you're wrong. I think Gerard would care a hell of a lot if MCR got nominated for a VMA. I mean, when has MCR ever won a mainstream award?
They won a Kerrang award for best band on the planet.
Lol, I wouldn't call a Kerrang award mainstream. Or even something most bands would want.
MCR wanted those VMAs they were nominated for back in 05 so bad they could taste them. They went all out for that show, with their Armani suits, the arrival in an armoured car and their performance (which sucked, btw, and Gerard's "This is for you Grandma!" at the end was cringe-worthy).
They were so starry-eyed that night it was almost embarrassing to watch.
Did anyone else see Gerard's new wrist tattoo at Reading? I've been trying to get a pic of it but can't find anything so far :(
Are you sure about that, 6:59?
6:16AM, what's wrong with being starry-eyed when you first start out? They're all like that in the begining.
If MCR had remained the way they were back in 05 I think most of us would still be fans. Now they're "too edgy" to want to win VMA awards.
In reality, they were probably so disappointed that they didn't win those kinds of things they put up this edgy front. I think Gerard would kill for the kind of mainstream success he claims he's too edgy for.
http://twitter.com/Jessicka/status/108404155013545985
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Oh Jess, you're just TOO MUCH!
Notice how she doesn't deny befriending people who who think using racist slurs is 'cool' and 'funny'. Very telling...
What do you expect from the 'feminist' who is friends with a man who is proud to want to punch women?
UGH, I jsut had to say something to that Jessicka person. I still don't know who the hell she is, but she's got a big mouth apparently, and she defends these morons under the flag of feminism. Gross.
Oh, I do love that quote from Tom Hardy!
And yep, I did read that Michelle Bachman thing. Actually that went up on my Tumblr too. WTF kind of idiot? That's a stupid question, actually. I know exactly what kind of idiot.
Also, for those following along with my bird drama, I think I've located all of my birds. :D I saw my missing one today, flying from his food dish to a tree. Just caught a glimpse but still fairly sure it was him; he's kind of hard to miss with his colors. I have to have faith in nature. ^_^
Thanks, guys!
What did you say to her, Kap?
Quit being a coward, Jessicka. It takes less than 140 characters to say 'Gerard Way is a misogynist asshole and I don't support him'. Your maintained silence is defence of his words alone.
Hang in there, Kap. If this idiot of a woman had nothing to be ashamed about, she wouldn't be getting so defensive. Call her out on her friendship with a man who threatens to beat women up.
Jessicka you BIG FUCKING COWARD. Keeping your defence of a man who wants to assault women is more important to you than supporting victims of DV and rape. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Hahahah, Jessicka is PISSED. Go cry with your racist friend about it, Jess. And while you're at it give Gerard another high five for threatening to put a women in the ground. Such nice healthy friendships you have for a feminist!
Let her have it by email if she wants, Kap. This idiot needs to be educated on MSI and their songs about children being raped. Then we'll see if she feels like making a special blog/tweet calling that out like she does everything else.
Somehow I doubt it!
And while you're at it, ask her why she hangs around with men who threaten to hit women. I'd sure like to know the answer to that question.
She is such a two-faced little witch. Defending her friends by calling anyone with a valid point about their disgusting music/actions someone 'with an ax to grind'. Funny how grinding her feminist ax is alright on her terms, as long as it's not against someone she's friends with.
Funny how grinding her feminist ax is alright on her terms, as long as it's not against someone she's friends with.
THIS!
If you don't defend Gerard, Jessicka, it's simple: Call him the fuck out on his shit. Likewise with your friend Lindsey.
I don't think it's an 'assumption' that your friends are sacks of shit, Jessicka. They sort of already proved they are.
I get the impression is is exactly like her friends: the friends that say one thing to appear respected and self righteous to cultivate their own image then appear like hypocrites by with the company they keep.
She would be one of the last people I consider a feminist.
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Kapunua she seems to think you have some 'bullshit axe to grind'.
Anything to justify herself.
Kap, I hope you're laying down the fact for her regarding her 'best friend' and her songs about child rape.
I doubt Jessicka will ever call her friends out on anything. She and Lindsey are very close friends. Hell, she's probably Godmother to bandit.
And I bet Jimmy 'five year old panty shot' Urine is Godfather.
Hi, just wanted to leave some thoughts, see what you guys make of them. And Kapu, it's nice to read that you are alright and that your birds are coming back to you. A very scary couple of days. Hopefully more people made it through as safely as you did.
Want to say first, what GW said about hitting the girl was wrong. Extremely wrong -I completely agree.
But two things?:
One, he was quoting a well-known book. Not saying this was in any way acceptable behavior but it wasn't his own words... two:
He was very obviously drunk.
And people say and do stupid inappropriate, terrible things when they are drunk. Perhaps not every drunk, but alcoholics are a very different matter. (I know, I come from a long line of them.) If you read his tweets from that night, he was clearly out of his head drunk. Or high. Associating with MSI is unaccpetable, but other than that, I haven't seen or heard him say something like that again. He should have apologized for it straight away, but if he's an alcoholic -he may not have been sober enough to grasp his wrong-doing while it still would have looked sincere. You know? I'm not trying to start anything, and please -continue to call out Jessicka (I think that is a stupid way to spell that name. She looks like a 3 year old.), I personally cannot stand her. Shr brings it on herself.
I'm just saying, I think there is a big difference between people who repeatedly, over years and years (like the memembers of MSI have and continue to do) behave like misogynists and racists -and drunks who are just trying to show off while they are out of their heads. Thoughts, guys? I'm off now, but I will be coming back in later. -Thanks for any replies.
Kapunua don't waste your time on idiots like her. She claims she's being baited when she is doing the exact thing with emotive terminology like "axe to grind" and how she's trying to completely steer away from discussing her association with her choice friends by saying things like "hidden assumptions".
I actually just sent her a lengthy email, with a link to the Tumblr thing that got me such grief, too. I wasn't rude or anything, but I don't see how she can't be aware of this.
And also the fact she wants to do so privately. Red light. If she has nothing to hide, why discuss it privately?
Kapunua I don't think that was a good idea.
Yes it was a good idea. She needs to stop hiding from the truth about the people she backs.
She's going to give you the sob story about her 'friends' Kap and try to win you over to their 'satire'. Gerard doesn't actually want to hit a woman! Oh no! He married one; how could he want to hit one?
Don't you see, she will not accept it because they are her friends and she will find a way to justify what they do. One thing I have noticed is that she is very good at deflecting and focusing the discussion about herself and her work.
And I'm very good at saying, "But let's get back to the point." :D
Of course, no one can convince other people that their friends are the biggest douches ever. No one can make others admit that in public, especially when there's so much at stake. But maybe she'll at least give it some thought. Who knows, maybe she'll even bring up the subject to those dimwits.
Maybe, over time, it will start to sink in. Everrrrr sooooooo sloooooowwwwwwllyyyyyyyyy.
Don't think so Kapunua because she is the one who will probably think you are the dimwit trying to frame her for her friendships.
I knew your birds would return Kapunua, just had that gut feeling.
sexy
"Tell me with whom you associate, and I will tell you who you are." Gothethe
Jessicka's latest Tweet.
So she's admitting she's a racist, sexist dumbass who supports violence against woman?
PHWOAR!!
To the anon who posts pictures of Tom Hardy-Thank you! You make me smile. He is a great looking guy.
Isn't he just? Even with a toothpick in his mouth ^_^
Who the hell is Gothete? What an idiot.
And I'm very good at saying, "But let's get back to the point." :D
HAHAHAHAHHAHA, priceless.
Of course, just like the idiots she's friends with she will think that she's right since they are under the illusion that they bring attention to serious social issues with their alleged satire and get people talking. I bet that's what they think.
One, he was quoting a well-known book.
Care to tell us what that really well-known book's name is? Because if it's really that well-known I wonder why nobody here or anywhere else brought it to our attention.
And people say and do stupid inappropriate, terrible things when they are drunk. Perhaps not every drunk, but alcoholics are a very different matter.
In Germany we say "Kinder und Betrunkene sagen immer die Wahrheit" (kids and drunks always tell the truth), meaning that since they're drunk they don't have any filter whatsoever and say what they actually think. And Gerard knows that he's an alcoholic. I still can't believe that he had the audacity in that Spin interview to say that being sober isn't for him anymore and that he has the occasional drink now. As if it were other people (his fans) who forced him not to drink anymore and thus took over all the fun.
That guy must be really fucked up that he has to lie to himself so that he can drown his problems and insecurities in alcohol again just like he did in the beginning of his career.
Also, we wouldn't be as understanding to a drunk person killing someone in a car accident so why should we let a drunk get away with death threats? You also shouldn't forget that with those hash tags #dieslow and #smashedface he incited his brainless fansheep to follow suit and send me death threats as well.
He should have apologized for it straight away, but if he's an alcoholic -he may not have been sober enough to grasp his wrong-doing while it still would have looked sincere. You know?
That coward would never apologize. There are people who are too weak to do that. Apologizing means that you admit to have done something wrong and they can't do that. If they would start admitting to themselves that they're not always right and do make mistakes it would destroy their whole self-image they so desperately created for themselves to not think of themselves as a total loser. And apologizing means losing for them.
Gerard is so damn insecure. You can read him like a book when you watch interviews with him. The moment when he starts fumbling around with his hair or scratching his face and touching his temple you can see that he starts feeling insecure or trapped and doesn't know what to do or say.
I bet it must piss him off big time that after all these years he's still that insecure guy from the past who needed to drink a lot of alcohol to feel good about himself and to have the courage to go out on that stage or talk to people.
And if he really felt uncomfortable in any way about those tweets he would have deleted them as he always does.
I'm sorry, but to me you sound like all the other girls and women who say 'Please, don't be mad at the hot boy/man I'm infatuated with. But you can hate the girl/woman because I don't have any feelings whatsoever for her.'
Siobhan she quoted a proverb that goes along a similar line of "a mirror reflects a man's face, but what he is really like is shown by the kind of friends he chooses." As for quoter maybe she was referring to the creator of Faust Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe though I don't think the quote originally emanated from him.
A very beautiful boy 2:28.
Well, that email discussion didn't really work out. She's as polite as can be, and she did hear my out. But in the end it came down to, "I'm not deflecting, I'm just choosing my battles. Let's agree to disagree."
I just said, "Sure, I'm just not sure what we're disagreeing about. Those lyrics exist and those actions happened. The language is oppressive. 'Panty-Shot' is a huge contribution to rape culture. People are telling women to 'get on their knees', 'moan for me' and calling women whores, bitches, c***s, and are saying that they're feminists. What, really, is there to argue?"
So, ehh. What can you do.
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