Actual quote, people.
There's just no "context" in which this can be funny or even acceptable. If this classless idiot was actually famous, she'd be clamoring to make an official apology right away. But I think that people like this have probably never apologized for anything in their lives.
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«Oldest ‹Older 2201 – 2400 of 2651 Newer› Newest»They must not know that in many places a first offense of drunk driving is just a fine and a temporary suspension of driver's license. Just like with the cell phone laws. Criminal and illegal don't always mean jail time.
I thought using a cell phone is a civil offense not a violation under a federal statue and regarded as a felony.
I don't think he hates women, I think he says stupid things in the heat of the moment but he should know better in his position.
There are public figures who are not given the benefit of the doubt, for example, the case of John Galliano who headed the house of Dior who was swiftly terminated in March this year for making anti semitic remarks in public. This is what happens in the real world they aren't protected from their bad behavior.
He WAS saying horrible, illegal stuff though, there was no "benefit of the doubt" because he was GUILTY all evidence pointed that way.
G.W. Would of said the same if it was male or female making him angry.
He WAS saying horrible, illegal stuff though, there was no "benefit of the doubt" because he was GUILTY all evidence pointed that way.
G.W. Would of said the same if it was male or female making him angry.
Along with the other "excuses" I think it makes sense. Honestly though, I'm not going to start disliking him as a stranger from a distant country until I see what the 16 year old sent him.
It didn't matter what that 16 year old sent him, he shouldn't have reacted that way imo.
Criminal does not just mean felony. A misdemeanor is a lesser criminal act but it's still a criminal act. Aggravated domestic violence is still considered a misdemeanor in many places. So is accidental homicide and manslaughter.
"It didn't matter what that 16 year old sent him, he shouldn't have reacted that way imo"
I know, but I don't see how what he said made him sexist. Immature certainly, he shouldn't have but he did. I would really love to see what the 16 year old sent him. Neither of them should of said anything tbh.
Most first DUI, second DUI, and third DUI arrests are charged as misdemeanors in the state of California and most other states unless the driver is involved in accident that kills or injures another person.
He WAS saying horrible, illegal stuff though, there was no "benefit of the doubt" because he was GUILTY all evidence pointed that way.
G.W. Would of said the same if it was male or female making him angry.
What do you mean?
Then there is that wobbler law in California where the at fault factor comes into play.
Some DUI felonies are also termed "wobblers." Wobblers are punishable either by confinement in county jail or state prison. Wobblers differ from straight felonies in the punishment imputed and in the post-conviction relief available. If a wobbler is punished by incarceration in county jail and probation is imposed upon release, then the defendant may petition the court to reduce the felony to a misdemeanor. If granted, the conviction will be considered a misdemeanor, but is still a felony under the Three Strikes Law.
If the driver of a vehicle drives while under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs and commits a forbidden act or neglects a duty imposed by law in driving the vehicle which was the proximate cause of the traffic collision and injures someone other than himself, then the DUI is a felony. However, the driver must be "at fault" for the traffic collision.
If the driver is under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs, and is not at fault for the traffic collision, then the driver shall be charged with a misdemeanor.
I know, but I don't see how what he said made him sexist. Immature certainly, he shouldn't have but he did. I would really love to see what the 16 year old sent him. Neither of them should of said anything tbh.
Maybe, but the comment made him appear in some ways sexist, the criticism didn't just come from this blog. Now, that's what some people will always associate him with.
"What do you mean?"
I think someone was talking about that fashion designer who started abusing some woman calling her a Jew or something, I'm not sure of the whole story, but he was really out of order and it was pretty horrible to see or hear about so he's got into trouble with the law.
Unless you're confused about something else?
I would really love to see what the 16 year old sent him. Neither of them should of said anything tbh.
Maybe but look at it from this perspective: he was still the adult in the situation and should have acted accordingly imo.
Their comment didn't make sense first 5:20.
5:05 explain yourself please.
I thought using a cell phone is a civil offense not a violation under a federal statue and regarded as a felony.
Most DUIs aren't regarded as felonies either as you have been shown. Not being regarded as a felony doesn't make the act less illegal.
"5:05 explain yourself please"
I think I already have, buut again, on the previous page someone was talking about that anti-Semitic fashion designer, saying how he's gotten into trouble and hasn't gotten the benefit of the doubt,whilst G.W has.
Or is it something else? Sorry.
"Maybe but look at it from this perspective: he was still the adult in the situation and should have acted accordingly imo."
Yep, he should of, but he didn't.
Not being regarded as a felony doesn't make the act less illegal.
May be illegal though it doesn't get recorded under your name as a criminal offense. Not all states define it as illegal do they?
Yep, he should of, but he didn't
Unfortunately
"Unfortunately"
Yep, He really should of done...
It's sad when you think about it.
I think disappointing is a better word to use.
Why disappointing? Did he disappoint you in some way?
No idea anymore, Slightly confused.
Cause he reacted in a way that made him look bad and its a bit of a downer when respect is lost?
No idea anymore, Slightly confused.
Cause he reacted in a way that made him look bad and its a bit of a downer when respect is lost?
Respect is the hardest thing to earn yet the easiest thing to give away.
I guess that's true, you have to say a load of stuff for people to respect you and then its a thing on twitter and it nearly all comes tumbling down.
That's why it is sad. Maybe he and the band did learn something out of this, but who knows? I hope they have sensible people around them.
Cuomo to Introduce Statewide Distracted Driving Bill With Teeth
by Ben Fried
Andrew Cuomo said today that he will introduce a bill to toughen state provisions intended to protect people from drivers who text or use portable electronic devices of any sort behind the wheel. The bill closes loopholes and adds stricter penalties for distracted driving, which contributes to more than 10,000 crashes per year in New York state.
In a statement, Cuomo cited research showing that texting drivers exhibit worse reaction times than drunk drivers.
“Every day, countless drivers, particularly teenagers and young adults, drive with their eyes on a screen rather than the road,” said Cuomo. “Current warnings, educational programs, and driving laws aren’t working. We need to impose a true deterrent to stop people from driving while using an electronic device and to keep our roads and citizens safe.”
Advocates applauded the governor’s announcement, with Transportation Alternatives calling the Cuomo bill “groundbreaking.”
Not all states define it as illegal do they?
Not yet.
So not being defined as illegal in all states makes it ok even though research has shown that distracted driving causes more accidents than driving under the influence?
Is your argument that people shouldn't do things that they know could cause their death and the death of innocent people or is that people shouldn't do things that are illegal in all 50 states?
GW's tweet is not the only reason people say he's sexist. He's building up a history of doing/saying sexist things, as is Frank.
a) Bill hasn't passed yet
b) Throw it in our face when it's part of federal statute under criminal law
c) The discussion was about a fatality involving drink driving: not texting or using a cell phone
What if some states decided to throw out the DUI laws? To say those laws were unconstitutional.
Would it be ok to drink and drive then just because it wasn't illegal in all 50 states.
The discussion was and is about putting innocent lives in danger.
However, he is at fault for making them suffer, and for killing another person and making that person's family suffer, by willfully doing something he knew could kill them both, or could kill another person.
Decent attempt at deflecting though.
Not yet.
So not being defined as illegal in all states makes it ok even though research has shown that distracted driving causes more accidents than driving under the influence?
Read your SADD stats that's not the picture.
In 2008, 11,773 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one third (32%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.
NHTSA
In 2009, 5,474 people were killed in motor vehicle crashes that were reported to have involved distracted driving.
Of those killed in crashes related to distracted driving, 18% of fatalities involved reports of cell phone use as a distraction.
18% of 5,474 as opposed to 32% (11,773) completely related fatalities to drink driving in the previous year.
http://www.sadd.org/stats.htm
So why can't all the states see that using a cell phone is more dangerous than drink driving and legislate consistently against it? Because the stats don't support it.
John Galliano rant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GngFQLo8rIY
The President and the federal gov't disagree with you.
Texting While Driving Banned for Federal Staff
The order covers federal employees when they are using government-provided cars or cellphones and when they are using their own phones and cars to conduct government business.
Separately, the federal government plans to ban text messaging by bus drivers and truckers who travel across state lines, and may also preclude them from using cellphones while driving, except in emergencies.
Ray H. LaHood, the transportation secretary, announced those and several other measures on Thursday, aimed at curbing what he called a deadly epidemic of distracted driving.
He made his announcement at a conference in Washington that included 300 academics, law enforcement officials, legislators, telecommunications and automobile industry representatives, as well as families of people killed by motorists who were talking on cellphones or text messaging.
“This meeting is probably the most important meeting in the history of the Department of Transportation,” Mr. LaHood said at the end of the two-day conference. He added that the order to restrict text messaging by federal employees behind the wheel “sends a very clear signal to the American public that distracted driving is dangerous and unacceptable.”
"I have nightmares about the last moments of my mother's life," said Greg Zaffke of Chicago, whose mother, Anita, was killed in May when a vehicle rear-ended her motorcycle at 50 mph. The driver had been painting her finger nails at the time of the crash.
Congress is watching the issue closely. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and other Democrats are pushing legislation that would require states to ban texting or e-mailing while operating a moving vehicle or lose 25 percent of their annual federal highway funding.
"We need every state to put safety first," Schumer told participants.
LaHood said the government would draw lessons from past efforts to reduce drunken driving and encourage motorists to wear seat belts, urging a "combination of strong laws, tough enforcement and ongoing public education."
Most of the people here don't want to be educated about public safety issues. All they want is for everyone to agree with them and say they're right. Even when they're logic is flawed and they're being irresponsible.
*their logic
You are the one with the flawed logic, completely diverting the subject and inaccurately quoting stats that don't even support your argument all because you dislike one person.
Honestly.
Do you think people here are against laws prohibiting the use of electronic devices while driving?
I personally want to smack people that I see talking on their phones in their cars because I've nearly been run over by them multiple times. My state has a law against texting while driving, but I think it needs to go further.
That said, drinking and driving is already illegal everywhere (that I know of, at least).
There's no fucking argument here. Just people trying to derail and deflect.
As usual.
"GW's tweet is not the only reason people say he's sexist. He's building up a history of doing/saying sexist things, as is Frank."
Would YOU say he's sexist though?
(Which is thinking one sex is better then the other)
Gerard is an idiot.
Fair enough, but do you think he is sexist?
He certainly seems to want people to think so with his use of sexist language and talk of hitting women.
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best band maybe incubus since they are making a (comeback)
scratch that i didn't think about that one lol. I think foo fighters had a good year too ! They'll probably grab the award for best band
"He certainly seems to want people to think so with his use of sexist language and talk of hitting women."
Thing is does he think its "hitting a woman" or hitting a human? I could use the word cunt everyday, it doesn't mean I think men are better then women or anything.
I also hope you're not calling ME a troll. I'm just giving my opinion, no need to get hissy about it.
Would have. Not "would of." Think about what you're trying to say.
You're not answering the point.
Also, anon, why are you so keen to defend drunk drivers?
WTF "point?" You aren't making one. You can barely string words together. You come in here defending an epic douchebag who gets his jollies calling little girls sexually charged names, degrading them. How am I supposed to even argue your "point?" You don't even have one.
You should probably read through this a bit more, see the points I'm trying to make.
You're very easy to irritate online.
I don't see Gerard calling men 'dicks' or threatening to smash their faces in, do you? ALL his insults are either sexually-charged toward women or involve threatening women. They speak for themselves.
You are a troll because instead of going and looking at the links on sexist language which were provided for you pages ago, you keep coming here and annoying the regs with your sustained ignorance. Many writers can explain why the things Gerard (and another men) do are offensive, and yes, sexist. Go read.
Breath in now breath out
Hands up now hands down
Back up back up
Tell me what you're gonna do now
Keep trollin' trollin' trollin' trollin'
Keep trollin' trollin' trollin' trollin'
Have you seen any men having a go at GW?
I'm sorry if you find me annoying but I'm not leaving or anything.
You can backread and answer your own questions using the links which have been provided for you on the earlier pages. PLENTY of men attack and insult Gerard. It's just that they are adult men in bigger bands than MCR. And he knows what would happen to him if he called them names or threatened to hit them. He picks on girls and women for a reason: easy targets. He's the classic bully.
Like Marlyn Manson or something?
I'm pretty sure in an interview Manson said "The dwarf came over" to him or something. (Meaning Frank)
Have you seen any men having a go at GW?
Why would they? For one thing, they don't have a large male fan base (something which clearly irritates them.) So men aren't often too aware of him. Second of all, Gerard doesn't attack men; he attacks women. So a typical man, unaware of Gerard way for the most part, probably wouldn't have much to say about him anyway. That's because we live in a patriarchal society where Gerard's behavior towards women is mostly overlooked or excused.
If Gerard was calling black people names or threatening to lynch them, he'd be in hiding by now. Attacking girls and women is accepted by society, which is why he can get away with it. Which is EXACTLY what Sibohan pointed out to him, then he threatened to hit her too. He just doesn't care he's a misogynist. He's almost proud of it.
Like Marlyn Manson or something?
I'm pretty sure in an interview Manson said "The dwarf came over" to him or something. (Meaning Frank)
"Why would they? For one thing, they don't have a large male fan base (something which clearly irritates them.) So men aren't often too aware of him. Second of all, Gerard doesn't attack men; he attacks women. So a typical man, unaware of Gerard way for the most part, probably wouldn't have much to say about him anyway. That's because we live in a patriarchal society where Gerard's behavior towards women is mostly overlooked or excused."
Again I will ask, have YOU, personally seen any male attack him? I know plenty of male MCR fans, If you wish I will list them for you.
So I take it you think he is sexist?
and not just a foolish idiot.
"If Gerard was calling black people names or threatening to lynch them, he'd be in hiding by now. Attacking girls and women is accepted by society, which is why he can get away with it. Which is EXACTLY what Sibohan pointed out to him, then he threatened to hit her too. He just doesn't care he's a misogynist. He's almost proud of it."
What if he called a black person a cunt and threatened to punch him/her? Would he still be sexist?
Or a racist?
He'd be both.
Gerard behaves like a sexist because he does sexist things. Why can't you accept this? You're tragic.
Seriously, ignore the troll. It's boring now.
I'd like to see the list of 'plenty' of male MCR fans.
"He'd be both."
So if I went into the street and a black woman went up to me and insulted me, so I told her "I'd smash your face for £4 and a can of cola you stupid cunt"
Would that make me a sexist, racist for insulting someone who happened to be black and a woman?
"Seriously, ignore the troll. It's boring now."
Spend your time as you wish, fellow troll.
So if I went into the street and a black woman went up to me and insulted me, so I told her "I'd smash your face for £4 and a can of cola you stupid cunt"
Would that make me a sexist, racist for insulting someone who happened to be black and a woman?
I'm sorry you were saying something about trolling but I got distracted by THIS TERRIBLE FUCKING TROLLING RIGHT HERE.
That's not very nice. Nor does it have any point. Bloody troll.
Seriously if you don't know why what you just said is fucked up to a really high degree then I really don't know what to say to you. Ignoring you from now on seems like the best option. Sorry to spoil your fun.
I know what I meant to ask, Kap, how did you get into your martial arts? How often do you train?
Jeesh the only point I'm trying to make is that I could use the word cunt, and not mean it in a sexist way, because I know that men and women should all be equal. But I could still use the word cunt I didn't even know it was sexist until GW used it.
Woooooow. You've hit a new level of failure and ridiculousness. I'm not sure if you are actually a troll, or just an extremely ignorant person. In either case, I believe you're pretty hopeless.
11:13, I started about 7 and a half years ago, literally on a whim. ^_^ I wanted to be like Tifa from Final Fantasy, so I called up the closest Kung Fu school I could find, and went for a trial class. I thought i was too old to start, since I was 31. But here I am, seven years later, about to have my bai shi ceremony and I've never felt better. :D
That's so cool! I've really wanted to try a martial art.
You should really do it! Karate and the Japanese styles are very hard and forceful. I like Kung Fu because you don't have to strain yourself to do a lot of damage; all the movement comes from your legs and waist and you don't really "muscle" anything. Sifu calls it "physics over physique." That said, I lost 20 pounds doing Kung Fu, and kept it off, and not once did I ever feel like I was "working out.
That's interesting because I was considering Kendo, however one of my friends does Kung Fu and is always in really great shape. She finds it hard work but enjoys it.
I really think all martial arts are cool and I have a lot of respect for the Japanese arts. Although I think that everyone who does a style feels that theirs is the best. ^_^ I think in that case, it's the best for them. I've always thought, it's not the art, it's the artist that makes a style great. :)
Just because you say I am hopeless does not make its true. I thought you were ignoring me but okay.
I don't think you are hopeless 12:35, but I don't think using the c word is appropriate either.
Jeesh the only point I'm trying to make is that I could use the word cunt, and not mean it in a sexist way, because I know that men and women should all be equal. But I could still use the word cunt I didn't even know it was sexist until GW used it.
If you truly believe that men and women are equal how could you use the c word in any context when it still provokes outrage and it is still considered a slur word? Most people still use the term to belittle others which does nothing to enhance the respect of females.
...in general
ba blabla male society, men are so evil bla bla bla..... What a bunch of bitter bitches.
Men are not evil in general...maybe some are, like some women can be... and some men are dense, like dense rockstars that go throwing around the c word.
And some of their equally dense fans...
Wait til some of these dumbasses get out into the real world and experience some real discrimination for being female. Then they'll change their tune.
That's what's unfortunate: many of these girls that go around saying these things are removed from the real world and more in their own worlds.
People defending drunk drivers piss me off. Sadly I don't need national statistics to know that a driver under the influence, ANY influence, will possibly kill someone. 7 is the number of car crashes i have lost people close to me in. 2 is the amount of years its happened in. 16 is the number of funerals I have attended, and I have to attend another one this weekend. So forgive me for not having a whole lot of sympathy for Ryann Dunn.
Holy crap, I am so sorry.
Who's defending drunk drivers?
What pisses me off the most are people who defend one irresponsible action over the other. People who have no compassion for drunk driving fatalities when the driver is the only one killed but will make excuses and have compassion for people who are killed or injured while texting or using their cell phones when driving.
Were all of those accidents caused by drunk drivers Hocking or were some caused by distracted drivers?
Nobody here is defending distracted driving.
People who get behind the wheel should have their full attention on the road and all of their wits about them.
It seems to me that some are trying to defend drunk driving by saying that using cellphones is worse. It isn't.
I lost someone dear to me because a woman who was a repeat offender who had lost her license got behind the wheel with a blood alcohol level of nearly .20. She had absolutely no idea she was driving on the wrong side of the road when she hit my friend head on.
Yes, talking or texting on cellphones is stupid. I even knew a man who was run over by someone while he was riding his bike because the woman who hit him was adjusting her radio and didn't see him. Both of these women were wrong, and both wound up doing jail time.
" inaccurately quoting stats that don't even support your argument"
The stats weren't inaccurately quoted. If you think that the Obama administration, the dept of transportation, and law enforcement are lying about the distracted driver stats you can check them for yourselves.
http://www.distraction.gov/stats-and-facts/
"“This meeting is probably the most important meeting in the history of the Department of Transportation,” Mr. LaHood said at the end of the two-day conference. He added that the order to restrict text messaging by federal employees behind the wheel “sends a very clear signal to the American public that distracted driving is dangerous and unacceptable.”"
According to the NHTSA, about twice as many people are killed by drunk driving than distracted driving.
Both are stupid. Both should be illegal. I don't see anyone disputing this.
Are you saying that distracted driving is worse than drunk driving? If so, you are wrong.
It seems to me that some are trying to defend drunk driving by saying that using cellphones is worse. It isn't.
It's no worse or no better. Both actions put your life and other lives in danger. That's the point.
People here have been defending distracted driving by saying that it wasn't criminal in all states or providences and by saying things like
a) Bill hasn't passed yet
b) Throw it in our face when it's part of federal statute under criminal law
Using a cell phone use while driving, whether it’s hand-held or hands-free, delays a driver's reactions as much as having a blood alcohol concentration at the legal limit of .08 percent. (Source: University of Utah)
To show the devastating, real-life effect of distracted driving, the Department unveiled the latest in its Faces of Distracted Driving video series, which explores the tragic consequences of texting and cell phone use while driving.
To learn more about the U.S. Department of Transportation’s efforts to stop distracted driving, please visit www.distraction.gov.
Lol someone is madly in love with a orange-haired rockstar or whot
Those videos are heart breaking.
Just as heartbreaking
http://facesofdrunkdriving.com/
Accidents and fatalities from both distracted driving and drunk driving are tragic. The statistics which you didn't even bother to compare still show that there are still more drunk driving related fatalities and injuries compared to distracted driving and not the other way around as you inaccurately claimed.
Where did I inaccurately claim that? I didn't compare any statistics. I just posted the statistics from the gov't site and gov't source sites so you could read them for yourselves.
The videos on the faces of drunk driving website are just as heart breaking as the videos on the faces of distracted driving website. Don't you think that they're all heart breaking? That all the victims are deserving of compassion.
The distracted driving campaign is following the same formula as the campaign against drunk driving hoping people will realize just how dangerous and deadly it can be. How unacceptable and irresponsible it is.
Friends don't let friends text and drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iR_oe90B9U
PSA UK texting and driving ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0LCmStIw9E&feature=related
The DD ads look a lot like the PSA's against drunk driving for a reason. They are equally dangerous and potentially deadly for the driver, their passengers and pedestrians. That's the point.
If you wouldn't get behind the wheel of a car after drinking alcohol then you shouldn't use your cell phone to talk or text while you're behind the wheel of a car. Both actions pose the same risks to life.
Save a life. Save it 4 L8R.
Would you drink and drive?
Don't use your cell phone on the road.
Those don't text and drive ads really drive the point home.
That UK ad is extremely graphic and shocking. The texting driver still living and screaming when she sees her bloodied and dead friends in her car. A dead baby in another car and a child asking why mommy and daddy won't wake. That's powerful.
Would you drink and drive?
Don't use your cell phone on the road.
It is hard not to laugh at the cartoonish end of that one but it does make its point.
"Men are not evil in general...maybe some are, like some women can be... and some men are dense, like dense rockstars that go throwing around the c word."
This is what I'm trying to say.
"If you truly believe that men and women are equal how could you use the c word in any context when it still provokes outrage and it is still considered a slur word? Most people still use the term to belittle others which does nothing to enhance the respect of females."
Because I'v only ever seen it provoke outrage on this website and on about two peoples twitter accounts. It seems like the majority of people only see it as some kind of curse word, like the f-word and that. The point is, people don't realise or think that it's sexist so they use it as a common insult just like dick head. People just don't go googling the history of insults.
A) How many people here have used their cell phones when driving?
B) How many of you still text and drive or make and answer calls when driving?
c) How many of you have family members and friends who do those things?
That could explain why a few of you are having such a problem admitting and accepting that distracted driving, especially texting or using a cell, is just as reckless and irresponsible as driving under the influence of alcohol. Because if you and your family or friends do those things they can't possibly be as irresponsible, dangerous, reckless and stupid as drinking and driving. Is that it?
"People just don't go googling the history of insults."
LOL
Those people must have better things to do than to google the history of insults and curse words. ^_~
I hope you're -for good reasons and not for my accidental ignorance...
My parents don't use their phones whilst driving, my dad listens to music though. Not sure if that's distracting or not.
*lol-ing
@ 9:31 only one of those was a distracted car crash.
Where did I inaccurately claim that? I didn't compare any statistics. I just posted the statistics from the gov't site and gov't source sites so you could read them for yourselves.
Those statistics all make it OK to drive under the influence.
June 28, 2011 9:44 PM
Honestly.
Do you think people here are against laws prohibiting the use of electronic devices while driving?
I personally want to smack people that I see talking on their phones in their cars because I've nearly been run over by them multiple times. My state has a law against texting while driving, but I think it needs to go further.
That said, drinking and driving is already illegal everywhere (that I know of, at least).
There's no fucking argument here. Just people trying to derail and deflect.
As usual.
^THIS
I'd like to see the list of 'plenty' of male MCR fans
So would I. Anon please provide your list. We're waiting.
Because I'v only ever seen it provoke outrage on this website and on about two peoples twitter accounts. It seems like the majority of people only see it as some kind of curse word, like the f-word and that. The point is, people don't realise or think that it's sexist so they use it as a common insult just like dick head. People just don't go googling the history of insults.
Do you really think so because I don't agree with you and I guess that depends on the group you associate with and their socio-economic/education level as my friends and family don't use this slur EVER.
One person might have said drunk driving was worse than distracted driving. Others have said it's all bad.
Sheesh.
I personally do not use a cellphone nor text when I drive and neither do my family members. I can't vouch for my friends, but if they did and were involved in a fatal accident, I would consider it just as bad as if they were drunk. I'd wager most of the people here would say the same.
You're arguing about nothing. Drunk driving does kill more people than distracted driving, though. That's just a fact. That doesn't make distracted driving any less stupid. But nobody here is saying it isn't stupid, nor are they condoning it.
I think being drunk whilst driving and texting whilst driving are both equally stupid things to do. When you drive your attention should 100% be on the road and not anywhere else. If you're drunk you should take the bus. Simple.
Those statistics all make it OK to drive under the influence.
June 28, 2011 9:44 PM
^That wasn't me. That sounds more like another snark fail.
This was me.
Those statistics are statistics. They make nothing ok. Those are the facts.
JUNE 28, 2011 11:01 PM
How many of you have compassion for 17 year old Alex and all the other teens killed in texting and driving or other DD accidents?
Do those of you who've
said you have no compassion for Ryan Dunn or any other person who drinks and drives feel compassion for Alex and all the other people who've killed themselves or others because they were texting and driving?
How do you justify that to yourselves? Having compassion for one but not the other.
I'm really curious about that.
Alex?
Click the link @ 10:03. Alex Brown was killed while she was texting and driving. She was 17 years old.
http://www.distraction.gov/faces/alex-brown.html
Thanks for the link. Just watched it. Oh man:[
WE KNOW that driving while texting or talking on the phone is idiotic. No one here is denying that. Actually, I also kind of wish the age to drive was older. I honestly don't think that 17 year olds should be even getting behind the wheel, but I guess that way of thinking is impractical. They don't have the frontal lobe function yet to make decisions an older person might make. They don't have the foresight or reaction times.
I've never texted while driving. I've never actually texted. The only cell phone I own is a 2004 Nokia and it's hardly ever on. I don't even know the phone number to it.
YES anon, you are defending drunk drivers. You're trying to make it seem like less of an idiotic, selfish, stupid, dangerous, deadly thing to do. Unsurprisingly, you're wrong, as usual.
This Gerard!defender is the worst troll I've seen in a while and I vote on ignoring them.
MCR are one of the most mocked bands going in the rock scene, and if you want to see how many male rock fans dislike them, just go on the Kerrang forums or the Blink 182 forums. They're mocked regularly and sometimes other bands rip into them, like Kasabian and Manson. Gerard won't react to that with threats of violence because he only picks on girls, using gendered insults. Big man!
How many of you have compassion for 17 year old Alex and all the other teens killed in texting and driving or other DD accidents?
I have compassion for ANYONE killed in an accident, regardless of the situation. Still, when someone dies doing something STUPID, it doesn't make it any less stupid, and I often feel anger towards the person who did the stupid thing, especially when they take some other innocent person along with them.
Human emotion is a very complex thing. You can feel anger and disgust towards someone while also feeling empathy, compassion and sorrow. Very few things in life are as black and white as the defending anon would make them.
if you want to see how many male rock fans dislike them, just go on the Kerrang forums or the Blink 182 forums.
This is very true. Many Blink fans are not at all happy that MCR is playing with them on the Honda tour.
You can find a lot of negativity towards MCR on Reading/Leeds boards too.
Any time MCR plays a festival, there are a lot of haters (mostly guys) who heckle them. There were LP fans at ProRev who were yelling for MCR to get off the stage all through their set. It's probably only going to be worse now that they're playing such pop-influenced music.
lol
Human emotion is a very complex thing. You can feel anger and disgust towards someone while also feeling empathy, compassion and sorrow. Very few things in life are as black and white as the defending anon would make them.
Exactly. And anyone with any common sense or maturity knows this. It's similar to the views held by extreme fans of MCR. They don't have a monopoly on this band and cannot control how others see and think about their idols.
Gerard won't react to that with threats of violence because he only picks on girls, using gendered insults. Big man!
According to some of the little girls in his fanbase he was being the man and defending his wife.
YES anon, you are defending drunk drivers. You're trying to make it seem like less of an idiotic, selfish, stupid, dangerous, deadly thing to do.
YOU are lying and trying to deflect from answering the questions posed about compassion. I've said time and again that both drunk driving and distracted driving are dangerous, reckless, careless, stupid and can be deadly.
Not once have I defended either drunk driving or distracted driving.
Do you dispute those facts?
PROOF of anybody defending drunk drivers or it didn't happen.
Just ignore them. It's clearly a Gerard fan nut trying to bait people.
Go back to Mayo's and kiss his ass there!
There's no fucking argument here. Just people trying to derail and deflect.
As usual.
If you and your friend want to call me something you can call me stop distracted driving anon. Stopping distracting driving is a cause I've been dedicated to since a relative was paralyzed from the neck down in a distracted driving accident. He's 18 years old.
Yes. Some of you are very good at trying to deflect from the real issues. Just call someone an MCR fangirl, a GW lover or a Mayo troll and hope everyone who reads this blog believes you.
Not everyone is that ignorant.
YOU are lying and trying to deflect from answering the questions posed about compassion.
I think the question about compassion was answered. Or did you skip over it?
I have compassion for ANYONE killed in an accident, regardless of the situation. Still, when someone dies doing something STUPID, it doesn't make it any less stupid, and I often feel anger towards the person who did the stupid thing, especially when they take some other innocent person along with them.
Human emotion is a very complex thing. You can feel anger and disgust towards someone while also feeling empathy, compassion and sorrow. Very few things in life are as black and white as the defending anon would make them.
The italicized words describe how I feel, and I'd wager they describe most of the regs' opinion as well.
I was talking to the one who didn't answer the question about compassion. The one whom i quoted. Not to you. Did you miss that?
I'm also waiting to hear Hocking's answer.
Thank you for answering btw.
Are you Kap 5:39? That's who they quoted and was talking to. She's the one who lied and said they were defending drunk drivers.
ignore them! 5:59 well thought out response full of sense and does represent what the majority of us think.
Oh, it's randomly capitalizing words!"anon." "Anon" is in quotes because you just gave away who you are. Now we both know for sure. ^_^
And yeah, you're defending drunk driving by trying to make it seem like less of a crime and a horror than it is, otherwise what's your point?
The question is, why are you defending it?
woah ! so im just now hearing shorty got his face licked by a "fan" now they can't hug fans anymore ... How do you even ...nevermind ...
^ ?
O_o
Any of you consider this joke sexist?
Phone rings. Woman answers. Pervert breaths, "Have you got a tight bald cunt?" She replies "Yeah.He's on the couch.Who shall i say is calling?
Are you Kap 5:39? That's who they quoted and was talking to. She's the one who lied and said they were defending drunk drivers.
June 30, 2011 5:52 PM
She didn't lie even I had the impression that person was supporting drink driving and so did others here. Not once did 5:38 balance their argument instead all they did was spam the blog with articles and stats on distracted driving, then a couple of days later announce why they are passionate about it instead of explaining it initially when people were solely discussing drink driving.
Yes. Some of you are very good at trying to deflect from the real issues.
Funny that's exactly what you were doing. And both you and your friend 5:52 were completely rude to 5:39 who's post you completely chose to ignore and gave you a response because you and your friend are here for one reason: to corner one person on this blog
I'm also waiting to hear Hocking's answer.
You talk about compassion. Where was your compassion for Hockings friends? Did you offer it?
Yes. Some of you are very good at trying to deflect from the real issues. Just call someone an MCR fangirl, a GW lover or a Mayo troll and hope everyone who reads this blog believes you.
It doesn't matter who believes me. I allow people to make up their own minds and have their own opinion even if I don't like their opinion.
Not everyone is that ignorant.
That's right not everyone is ignorant but in your case I'm afraid you're acting that way so stop deflecting.
Who's shorty and why did a fan lick him? That's unsanitary.
The ones who said that they felt no compassion for Ryan Dunn won't answer the questions distracted driving anon. They'll do what they always do. Try to spin things their way. Ignore the questions and accuse you of being a racist, sexist, drunk driving defender or say you support violence against women.
Then their friend will come in and back them up and say that you're the one trying to deflect and derail. It's happened ever since I started reading this blog. It's mob mentality and they do it to most people who come in and ask serious questions concerning their logic and reasoning.
Going green.
Firstly I'm not "her friend" so I'm going to accuse you of lying, Secondly if you where participating in a logical discussion in the first place you I would have expected you to reiterate how irresponsible drink driving is then introduce distracted driving to make some sense. Now answer me, why didn't you state your interest in DD in the first place? No one here has questioned the irresponsibility of distracted driving.
The ones who said that they felt no compassion for Ryan Dunn won't answer the questions distracted driving anon. They'll do what they always do. Try to spin things their way. Ignore the questions and accuse you of being a racist, sexist, drunk driving defender or say you support violence against women.
When you and your friend mature emotionally you will hopefully learn one thing: many people don't think the way you do and reason in ways that don't make sense to you. They gave you their reasons already they didn't ignore it. You are ignoring it.
Try to spin things their way. Ignore the questions and accuse you of being a racist, sexist, drunk driving defender or say you support violence against women.
Then their friend will come in and back them up and say that you're the one trying to deflect and derail. It's happened ever since I started reading this blog. It's mob mentality and they do it to most people who come in and ask serious questions concerning their logic and reasoning.
You have not shown any reason or logic you are expecting the right answer.
It's mob mentality and they do it to most people who come in and ask serious questions concerning their logic and reasoning.
5:39 explained it perfectly. So much for your "mob mentality" accusations.
Who's Shorty?
Actually I had already answered that question. Out of all the crashes only one was becuase of the driver being distracted. So unless there was another question I didn't see, I've answered this question twice.
Going green=whoring yourself out for car manufacturers. How does that even make sense. Those videos make me cringe.
Guess they have to earn a living any way they can.
Now answer me, why didn't you state your interest in DD in the first place? No one here has questioned the irresponsibility of distracted driving.
She didn't because that's not actually what she's here for. This is the same "anon" who comes in constantly asking me stupid questions, which I answer, and then always says "I"M STILL WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER, KAP."
It's the same "anon" who has always called me that, and who doesn't actually care what anyone else says, just always chooses me to "answer the questions damn it!" It's the same MO she always uses, and as always, it fails.
No one here honestly thinks that this is some random anon who came by one day thinking, "I have a real problem with distracted drivers. I wonder if the people on this blog that discuss how crappy MCR is will feel the same way." And then goes on the offensive before anything else before deciding, "Oh, I'm asking because I really care."
Come on. Really?
The other questions were Do those of you who've
said you have no compassion for Ryan Dunn or any other person who drinks and drives feel compassion for Alex and all the other people who've killed themselves or others because they were texting and driving?
How do you justify that to yourselves? Having compassion for one but not the other.
To be fair Hocking didn't say that she had no compassion for Ryan Dunn. She said, and I quote " So forgive me for not having a whole lot of sympathy for Ryann Dunn."
Who's shorty and why did a fan lick him? That's unsanitary.
Shorty is (Frank) at a meet and greet or something ...why the fan did it? The world may never know
I'm starting to wonder if this person drinks and drives or someone they know does, and this is some sort of subconscious form of guilt.
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest 8:41. If their so-called "fans" can write fic about them involved in incestuous relationships, that's just the next step imo. Some of them have no boundaries are are completely disrespectful. Besides, aren't their security people meant to prevent those sorts of things?
So Frank isn't going to let any more fans get close enough to him to lick him again. He isn't going to hug them when they ask for a hug anymore? That's understandable. Too many of his fans seem to get the wrong idea about his friendly personality. They assume things and take liberties that they shouldnt.
Why are they hugging their fans in the first place? I mean they are public figures to them, not their friends.
@8:46
You're implying exactly what this one asked. Only they asked about distracted driving.
Anonymous said...
A) How many people here have used their cell phones when driving?
B) How many of you still text and drive or make and answer calls when driving?
c) How many of you have family members and friends who do those things?
That could explain why a few of you are having such a problem admitting and accepting that distracted driving, especially texting or using a cell, is just as reckless and irresponsible as driving under the influence of alcohol. Because if you and your family or friends do those things they can't possibly be as irresponsible, dangerous, reckless and stupid as drinking and driving. Is that it?
June 30, 2011 3:44 AM
I don't see any problems with hugging, as long as it's all consensual, (not ninja hugs) and hands stay where they are supposed to. I know Jared Leto hugged me once, he even shoved me a little, in a playful way, and laughed when I giggled like an idiot. And I realize I unthinkingly touched his arm once to get his attention when I'm usually really good about not touching people I don't know. Also their tour-bassist Tim, he hugged my younger cousin and I both, once, and we somehow all ended up walking through the venue parking lot hand in hand, I still have no idea how that happened.
Yet another time, Bert McCracken bodily lifted up that same cousin of mine and moved her out of his way as he was running past. That, I thought was rude.
Touching is all about context. It should never veer into groping or invading personal space.
I don't really get the point of all this distracted driving stuff. I think it has been agreed that it's a stupid thing to do, but I don't see how it relates to Ryan Dunn and drunk driving at all.
Drunk driving and distracted driving are two totally separate things. So why was distracted driving even brought into the conversation if not to derail and accuse Kapunua?
I can answer no to all 3. Another thing: in distracted driving there sometimes is plain old human error and judgment which doesn't involve texting, cell phones or whatever. That can happen in a blink of an eye. Unfortunately that can't be prevented. Drink driving is a substance controlling your ability to judge. Take away the alcohol in those cases and you prevent the accident.
So why was distracted driving even brought into the conversation if not to derail and accuse Kapunua?
Exactly. Funny how we can all see that, but they insist it's the people here and our "mob mentality" and ignore all the calm, logical responses directed to them.
^That. And you'll notice how she, as usual, directs all questions and anger towards me, and then later on adds, "Well I'm here talking to all of you, because I, umm, have a reason to care about something. yeah, that has nothing to do with this blog. I showed up here randomly with this issue of mine."
Nope, I know who this is. Just not sure why she's so stuck.
Another thing: in distracted driving there sometimes is plain old human error and judgment which doesn't involve texting, cell phones or whatever. That can happen in a blink of an eye.
It can, and it's terrifying. I like cars, I like driving. But at the same time, cars will probably always intimidate me a little. They are such deadly weapons. My aunt was recently (well, 4 months ago) in a horrific car accident. She lost her leg and is still in the hospital, having ups and downs. The car she was in was crushed, it didn't even look like a car anymore. Human error, on both sides of the accident. Just awful, so frightening.
Who is it Kapunua?
"So would I. Anon please provide your list. We're waiting."
Michael Mather
Adam Turnbil
Aidan Knowles
Angus Leslie
Daniel Thompson
Chris Burlison
Connor Hornsley
Eddie Gough
James Taylor
Joe Simpson
Joe Hobkirk
Mathew Walton
That is ALL my friends who I hang around with and know who like MCR and happen to be male.
"Do you really think so because I don't agree with you and I guess that depends on the group you associate with and their socio-economic/education level as my friends and family don't use this slur EVER."
That's great. Its obvious how fantastic and higher class you are compared to strangers on the internet.
If you think I'm a troll then feel free to ignore me. It is all fine. If bands are mocking other bands doesn't that just show how childish and immature they are?
I just don't agree with the hugging thing. I think that's where some of the more excitable fans get confused about what's appropriate.
It's wasn't intentional. It was more a consequence of a very bad decision. But nevertheless, the pain for everyone else is still the same.
kapunua said...
Well, that's just what I said. However, he is at fault for making them suffer, and for killing another person and making that person's family suffer, by willfully doing something he knew could kill them both, or could kill another person.
June 24, 2011 5:34 PM
Anonymous said...
But he's gone now. They can't just blame him. They are reeling from his loss. They have to grieve. When you lose someone close to you in tragic circumstances, especially in what seems their own doing, you still have the same feelings. The anger comes much later.
June 24, 2011 5:41 PM
Lol, do those guys know you're posting their names here as MCR fans? If so, I'm not sure they'll still be friends of yours after that. IF, that is, the names you gave us are real.
I know some guys who like MCR. Tallicadude and what was the other one? Dubtown or something like that? They were big Watchmen fans too, if I recall correctly.
LMFAO.
That's great. Its obvious how fantastic and higher class you are compared to strangers on the internet.
Are you nuts? Do you think you have to be "higher class" not to call people c's? Lol lol lol.
What about icecreamsandwich one of their biggest male fans ;)
Lol, do those guys know you're posting their names here as MCR fans? If so, I'm not sure they'll still be friends of yours after that. IF, that is, the names you gave us are real
LOVE how you guys are like "Post this list then"
I do and then you refuse to believe its real, they let me don't worry, They think this page is funny.
"Are you nuts? Do you think you have to be "higher class" not to call people c's? Lol lol lol"
One lol is enough, calm down.
"socio-economic/education level"
Read what I am replying as well as what I am saying please. When did I say that upper class people don't use this. I have said many times there are good and bad people everywhere. Lol lol lol.
I'm going to be fair. I think they have male fans, only problem is that 85% of their fans are females.
"What about icecreamsandwich one of their biggest male fans ;)"
I will not lie, but you have confused me.
"85% of fans are girls..."
But that doesn't really matter. The boys I know are nice, they're the ones that come more often to meetups and stuff.
But thank you for being fair!
Kapuna I missed your comment about your aunt. Im so sorry.
Thank you, anon. I appreciate it. :)
LOL @ tallicadude. That shit never gets old. If only MCR's marketing was a little more subtle.
Honestly I see no diffrence between drunk driving and distracted driving. Either way there's a risk that someone else will get hurt. My sympathy mainly goes to the families and friends. My friend Lukas was the distracted driver, he was texting his girlfriend when he went off the road and hit a pole. As much as I miss my friend, I'm glad that there was no one else in the car with him and that only he was the only one who had to suffer.
"The car she was in was crushed, it didn't even look like a car anymore."
From one of my friend's crashes.. The car literally exploded:
http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/42318637.html?storySection=photo
Ugh, jesus. I'm so sorry.
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