Actual quote, people.
There's just no "context" in which this can be funny or even acceptable. If this classless idiot was actually famous, she'd be clamoring to make an official apology right away. But I think that people like this have probably never apologized for anything in their lives.
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I see men & grown ups getting into it.
Thank you for responding and answering the questions about compassion and sympathy.
Honestly I see no diffrence between drunk driving and distracted driving. Either way there's a risk that someone else will get hurt. My sympathy mainly goes to the families and friends
That's the way I feel but my sympathy also goes to the victims. Even if they were victims of their own unthinking and irresponsible actions they didn't intentionally kill themselves or anyone else. I still have compassion for them. No one deserves to die like that.
My sympathy goes out to you for your losses. I hope you and your community have found some sense of closure since the woman responsible for the collision was sentenced to 6-30 years in prison for driving under the influence of prescription drugs.
http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/x874709865/Woman-gets-6-to-30-years-in-death-of-3-in-accident-last-year?i=0
DUI of prescription drugs is just as dangerous and reckless as DUI of alcohol and distracted driving. They all can kill. We all should learn.
link
Brown, at the time of the crash, was under the influence of mirtazapine, normally prescribed for depression; clonazepam, for seizure disorders and panic attacks; and 7-aminoclonazepam, a major metabolite of clonazepam.
That makes me sad and angry.
This distracted driving debate has gone on long enough. This is a blog about MCR, people, remember?
Anyway, where did you read that someone licked Franks face? That is really crossing the line IMO. I'd be pissed if someone did that to me.
They're within their rights to talk about what they want, I guess this blog's about stupidity in general so dangeroud driving kind of goes in that catagory.
No idea how people found out, I've only seen one comment about it on twitter.
Yeah it's on twitter but I found out through tumblr. Personally I love my chem and all they stand for. I never understood why so many people take the time out to bash them if they hate them so much. I mean I don't like that Bieber kid but I've never written on msg boards about him, nor would I start a blog dedicated to hating him and his girl. It is also strange to me that this V.V. girl only attacks Gerard and Frankie, and suddenly the entire band is racist. I mean all the stuff with Frankie saying the 'nigga' on twitter is so ridiculous. As a black female, I'm certainly not offended. Anyway, this blog is full of manipulative information...Mikey and Ray have not done anything to be put in such hateful light.
And that girl who licked Frank, well, she had some audacity...
DERAIL DERAIL TROLL TROLL DERAIL DERAIL TRIVIALIZE TROLL SOME MORE ETC ETC
Why are you even here, RACIST DEFENDER?
I bet Gerard was jealous the fan didn't lick him. Just think, he would have had an opportunity to smash said fans face in! Then he would totally have been a badass! Jimmy Urine would have been so proud.
^ I am indeed being sarcastic.
DERAIL DERAIL TROLL TROLL DERAIL DERAIL TRIVIALIZE TROLL SOME MORE ETC ETC
Why are you even here, RACIST DEFENDER?
Are the capitals really necessary?
Gabrielle I agree with you. I don't get why people who dislike them spend so much time talking about them and looking up everything they say in interviews and tweets to find something offensive for them to attack them about. I also agree with what you said about Frank. I'm black and I didn't find Frank's use of the N word racist I found it ignorant. The N word gets thrown around too easily by people of other races because they think its cool due to the word's usage in music and films. He thought it was cool to use and clearly it isn't. I haven't heard about or seen him use the word again so he can't actually be branded a racist. Not only that but way he used it wasn't to insult or belittle someone so it wasn't like it was a racist attack or anything.
I think most of the people here are pissed because he defended his use of the word (again showing his ignorance) and because he called the person who called him up on it a "simpleton"
I don't think he's racist, I think he's just like everyone else who uses the word because they think its cool. They need educating.
I don't like MCR because I was around in the beginning and I've seen them change their stories around one too many times.
In the beginning, they were all about "the party". Then suddenly, they were all about "saving lives". Then Gerard was always on about his "sobriety". Then he started all that "I'm on my own for the first time in X number of years" for TBP, when all along, he was with Eliza and had been cheating on his ex with her for years.
Then at PR, Gerard was high as a fucking kite, all the while still claiming sobriety. Next came the crazy whirlwind marriage with LynZ and suddenly, Gerard is telling young girls to simulate orgasm for him at shows, whereas before he was supposedly all about feminism and girls not "showing their tits".
All in all, Gerard has proven with his actions that this band is a great big marketing scheme and always has been.
As for "Frankie", the things he has said on his twitter have been reprehensible. Ray and Mikey just go along with anything these two do, and Ray even got in on the act with some unseemly remarks on twitter.
So, believe what you want about these guys -- but some of us know better. And whether you like it or not, we aren't going away.
Will the idiot with the "TROLL, TROLL, TROLL" remarks please stop?
People who come here with differing opinions are not trolls unless they come here to attack.
I disagree with Gabrielle, and I think she's brainwashed by MCR to an extent, but that doesn't make her a troll.
When she comes in saying we're bitter, crazy cat ladies or starts referencing things that Kapunua said at Mayo's, then she'll be a troll.
So, believe what you want about these guys -- but some of us know better. And whether you like it or not, we aren't going away.
THIS.
So, believe what you want about these guys -- but some of us know better. And whether you like it or not, we aren't going away.
THIS.
If that comment was in response to what either myself or Gabrielle wrote we never asked you to go away or to even stop we just said we dont understand you.
JGL people, I saw Mysterious Skin. I just wanted to share that with everyone.
It was... intense. Horrible. Brilliant. Sad. Scary. I actually cried and I never cry during movies.
I just wanted to share this with someone because I don't know anyone else who's seen it that I can talk to.
Yes, haha, I feel like I need to talk to someone about the fact that I saw this.
Another thing I want to say. That movie really drove home the fact of child abuse and rape. It's obvious that everyone already knows it's not a funny thing to joke about (except MSI apparently), but I feel like the movie forever changed my perception of it, by being so realistic.
And not only that but violence and adult rape too. I was never one to think those were funny jokes, but after seeing a movie like this it made me feel sick.
Even if I hadn't already thought that MSI were a disgusting group of humans (maybe) .... then seeing something like this would definitely make me think that their songs were not funny at all.
It doesn't matter whether you understand us or not 12:47. I don't understand how you can continue to like MCR, but I realize that you do and I'm not going to go onto an MCR site and say, "OMG, I don't understand you people!"
We are here. We don't like MCR because we think they're liars, manipulators, etc. My advice to you is don't try to understand it. Just deal with it.
Mysterious Skin is brilliant, I agree. It's definitely hard to watch. It does drive home how so not funny rape is. But then, I doubt that MSI fans have the attention spans to be able to watch and understand something profound as that film.
We are here. We don't like MCR because we think they're liars, manipulators, etc. My advice to you is don't try to understand it. Just deal with it.
That's just it. They can't deal with it. Many MCR fans can't accept that the rest of the world doesn't idolize Gerard and Co. the same way they do, otherwise they wouldn't feel compelled to come here and tell us they "just don't understand" us.
Mysterious Skin online.
Watch at your own risk though.
To me this was another one of the most tragic scenes. The old man with AIDS crying just because JGL character is touching him, "I just need to be touched" "Make me happy". I cried at that part too. I felt so bad for that guy.
That was one of the saddest scenes. It was also kind of doubly sad because you kind of get the feeling that JGL's character was looking at his own future if he continued on the path of self-destruction he was hellbent on.
So compelling, yet horrifying. :(
That movie really made me hate the word "slut"
Mysterious Skin. :(
That guy, by the way, was Billy Drago from The Untouchables (among other things.) I know exactly which scene you're talking about because I was thinking, "Holy crap. That's Nitty. O_O "
I can't even watch those clips, man. That movie scarred me.
I saw it about a week after I saw the original "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" and I kind of felt a comparison between the two movies. Except that Lisbeth kind of owned her sexuality, you know? She was a victim, but never a victim of herself. AND she fought back, viciously. Her revenge scene was so cathartic.
Whereas in Mysterious Skin, Neil McCormick was a victim of many different people, of the system, and of himself - remember Neil was also a predator as a child, which was one of the most disturbing aspects of the film to me. We're led to believe that he didn't grow up cruel (he only hurt someone once,) but even his best friend warned that he had a black hole where a heart should be, or something like that, right?
And there was no cathartic ending for any of the characters, either. No revenge, just destruction.
Ugh, so powerful, but so horrifying.
"The scene" was one of the most brutal rape scenes in the history of any movies I've ever seen. I almost threw up. yet they don't actually show anything in terms of bodies. How weird is that?
PS I haven't see the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. I heard it was good though. I should see it before the American version comes out.
American History X had a male rape scene and it actually showed more in terms of nudity and bodies. There wasn't even any nakedness in Mysterious Skin and yet I had a harder time watching that scene than American History X one.
Definitely see Dragon Tattoo, the original one! The book was great, too. ^_^
American History X was another one of those really difficult movies.
Another one that got me the way Mysterious Skin did was "Kids." That movie was horrific. But still really powerful.
Apparently HitRECord at the movies in London tonight was a huge hit. A few of my London pals were up on stage with Joe, hanging out and doing HitRECord things with him. :D I can't wait to see!
I needed something cheerful after all that Mysterious Skin chat. ^_^
Incidentally, tonight I blew up Tumblr with a post about how loathsome MSI and MCR are. In about one hour, I've gotten a ridiculous amount of angry reblogs and hatemail.
Such fun. ^_^ I love how their fans just prove my point.
Wow, one of them just told me that if I think the N word isn't funny, then I'm a racist. For not liking the N word. For not getting the joke.
WHAT.
Yup.
it's not a funny thing to joke about (except MSI apparently)
Who would satirize child abuse? Only the lowest of the low.
Those fans are just plain ignorant K, much like the people they admire.
What did you say in your post Kapunua if you don't mind me asking?
LOL
Actually, I just backread this blog and quoted a lot of what gets posted here.
My Tumblr.
I got about 10 private messages consisting of things like "UR a f*ggot" and "lol go get beat up by a man" among other typically MSI-ian responses. Most anonymous of course, a few signed in.
Did anybody threaten to smash your face for 6¢ & a diet dr. pepper or to *vunch you?
*punch you in the vagina
Threatening to vunch somebody is a sexist threat of violence. . Anybody who does that should be reported.
He's not going to pat you on the back and say you're a great fan for supporting me and my band anonymous 7:37 & 43.
I never knew the Riot Mag made note of the MCR/MSI fallout. Isn't his wife and her friend so-called riot girls?
I'm not sure. All I really know of the Riot Grrl movement was back in the 90s. I don't know anything about these people being involved in that. However I could be wrong!
Oh the irony!
I think most of the people here are pissed because he defended his use of the word (again showing his ignorance) and because he called the person who called him up on it a "simpleton"
I don't think he's racist, I think he's just like everyone else who uses the word because they think its cool. They need educating.
Do you really believe that someone in a band of their popularity, who has been in the public eye for around ten years surrounded by their own publicists and management wouldn't know and be advised that to twit things like this would not be controversial and appear spiteful? Do you really think that he is tweeting this to 'be cool'?
Maybe management isn't as involved as popular media leads us to believe.
You guys seem to be very willing to sympathize with characters played by Joseph Gordon Levitt in films, yet why do you show no sympathy to people like Gerard and Frankie?
It can't have been easy for them growing up poor in a bad part of New Jersey. Franks' parents were divorced and his mom had to work a lot to support him and from what I understand, they were very poor. He was also very sickly as a child.
Gerard's childhood seems even more troubled. He seems to have been raised by his grandmother, maybe because his parents were too busy working their asses off trying to put food on the table for them. Gerard admits to having had traumatic experiences, like being held at gunpoint as a teenager when the Comic Book store he was working at was robbed. Perhaps he was even the victim of a sexual assault. Has anyone here ever considered that possibility?
You can't make judgments about people willy-nilly without knowing for sure the circumstances in which they grew up. Any or all of the members of MCR could have been abused by relatives or parents or school mates. They may have very good reasons for behaving the way they do.
This is why you should not make judgments about people you don't know. Everyone has skeletons in their closets and hidden things in their pasts that influence their behavior and I think Gerard and Frankie are no different. Why can't you cut them just a little slack?
Anon if you read the blog since it's inception you would have noticed that once people were very concerned for Gerard and the band, until they gave them reason not to be concerned.
Another thing anon if they did have traumatic experiences I do have much sympathy for them in terms of the experiences. I will also say that many people have bad experiences, some more than others so it's not unique.
And though it may give people an understanding to the trigger for the bad behavior it should never be made an excuse for it's acceptance.
"That's just it. They can't deal with it. Many MCR fans can't accept that the rest of the world doesn't idolize Gerard and Co. the same way they do, otherwise they wouldn't feel compelled to come here and tell us they "just don't understand" us."
*Some MCR fans. The fact is I understand some of it, but the other half just seems to be hormonal bitching. But I guess you have to take the good with the bad.
People change their stories and ideas a lot that's just life, when things happen you change with them, for worse or for better.
I'm just going to say thank you for the people who answer these things nicely, without resorting to using the words "troll" or "derailment." It's pleasant.
The fact is I understand some of it, but the other half just seems to be hormonal bitching. But I guess you have to take the good with the bad.
I'm just going to say thank you for the people who answer these things nicely, without resorting to using the words "troll" or "derailment." It's pleasant.
So, you thank people for treating you with respect and don't resort to any name-calling, but unfortunately, you don't grant them the same courtesy.
I think it's one of the most blatant acts of misogyny if people try to muzzle women by telling them that their opinions don't matter or are invalid because they must have been on their period or in some allegedly for women typical state of hysteria. It's even worse if this kind of reasoning is used by women themselves. What the fuck???
I think assholes like you should be forced to educate themselves on how sick fuck therapists wanted to 'cure' that inexistent disorder hysteria.
Men get involved. Women get hysterical.
Men speak their minds. Women have their period.
Asshole!
Oo-oh
People change their stories and ideas a lot that's just life, when things happen you change with them, for worse or for better.
So are you saying that it's perfectly okay for people to lie to you? To change their so-called "truths" around constantly to suit their purpose at the time? And you just accept that and go along with it?
In my opinion, that's called being a doormat. Sorry, but I'm just not the doormat type. I wouldn't accept that kind of behavior from my friends or family, and I'm certainly not going to accept it from a bunch of self-important musicians who don't give a fuck about me.
"That's just it. They can't deal with it. Many MCR fans can't accept that the rest of the world doesn't idolize Gerard and Co. the same way they do, otherwise they wouldn't feel compelled to come here and tell us they "just don't understand" us."
*Some MCR fans. The fact is I understand some of it, but the other half just seems to be hormonal bitching. But I guess you have to take the good with the bad.
This has nothing to do with hormones, MCR fans appear very intolerant which is very ironic to say the least.
The fact is I understand some of it, but the other half just seems to be hormonal bitching. But I guess you have to take the good with the bad.
This statement explains so much. I suppose it's a lot easier to swallow MSICR's misogyny when you're a misogynist yourself.
It doesn't matter whether you understand us or not 12:47. I don't understand how you can continue to like MCR, but I realize that you do and I'm not going to go onto an MCR site and say, "OMG, I don't understand you people!"
We are here. We don't like MCR because we think they're liars, manipulators, etc. My advice to you is don't try to understand it. Just deal with it.
firstly I'm a fan of the music more than the actual band memebers. Secondly I'm not going to go onto a haters MCR site and say, OMG, I don't understand you people" Cause that's not what I did. I didn't say I didn't understand your dislike of them, I at times don't like them, I said I didn't understand why if you don't like them you continue to talk about them so much. Maybe next time read what was written and take from it what it says instead of what you want it to say just so you can reply with a bitchy response.
That's just it. They can't deal with it. Many MCR fans can't accept that the rest of the world doesn't idolize Gerard and Co. the same way they do, otherwise they wouldn't feel compelled to come here and tell us they "just don't understand" us.
Well that might be true for some but I don't idolize the band, not at all. And like I said to the fist anon I replied to I understand your dislike they do do/say things that make you shake your head and think what the fuck?! But what I don't understand is why you choose to talk about something you don't like so often. That was all.
Well done, Kapuna, for that awesome post on your Tumblr. I actually think all your posts are pretty cool.
Anyone who calls MCR/MSI out on their bullshit is fine with me.
But what I don't understand is why you choose to talk about something you don't like so often. That was all.
Perhaps you should read a little more closely.
I said I would not go onto an MCR fansite and say "I don't understand you people!", which is exactly what you did. I did not say that I would say "I don't understand why you like the band!". My statement was not that specific, so it could have applied to anything that MCR fans might say on their sites. Such as that I don't understand why they talk endlessly about them or why they spend their evenings stalking their concerts on twitter, because, frankly, I don't understand that at all.
I also don't understand why you feel the need to come here and tell us how you don't understand why we talk about them if you, as you say, don't idolize the band. If you can deal with the way we feel, then why don't you just leave us to our opinions and not come here to tell us how you think we should just shut up about it. Because, although those weren't your exact words (Yeah, I know you'll be back to say, "I never said that!"), that was the gist of your "I just don't understand!"
You can't reason with these fangirls, 6:22, so don't even try. They don't understand what havoc we could wreak on their fansites if we wanted to. We don't, but that doesn't stop them from coming here to call us hormonal, etc. They confuse "understanding" with "agreeing" and can't accept that we don't agree with them.
what I don't understand is why you choose to talk about something you don't like so often.
For me personally feminism and women's rights is a big issue and when I see a band I used to respect for being allies to the cause merge with a hate-filled project like MSI and then do a 180 on their previous stance I feel invested enough to comment here. I think this blog is a great resource and place for people who are fed up with the casual misogyny and sexism in the rock music scene in general. I love bands, and I still love MCR's music. But the fact is that there behavior isn't something I can just ignore and not comment on, because it does affect me indirectly as a female who takes part in the rock music scene by going to shows. We're the people Gerard once stood up for and the ones he's now shitting all over.
*their behavior
But the fact is that there behavior isn't something I can just ignore and not comment on, because it does affect me indirectly as a female who takes part in the rock music scene by going to shows.
This.
I don't see why we should have to justify ourselves to those who are willing to sit back, shut up and ignore this band's bad behavior, like the anon at 6:00. I have a voice and I'm going to use it.
I'm not going to go onto a haters MCR site and say, OMG, I don't understand you people" Cause that's not what I did. I didn't say I didn't understand your dislike of them, I at times don't like them, I said I didn't understand why if you don't like them you continue to talk about them so much.
Lol. You might want to go back and reread what you just said there. You just contradicted yourself completely in that paragraph, and you're questioning others' reading comprehension?
LMFAO.
That's a great post, Kap.
Thanks, guys. ^_^ I appreciate that. Oh boy, the hate mail is still piling in. Some of it is pretty funny.
Siobhan, thank you for the "like!"
I see Dstarpro and the Lindsey-stalker with the bad tattoos are bullying teenage girls again. What a fab 'hate free' life they lead!
I wonder how long Mrs Way can keep running and hiding from her awful comment about the tsunami. She should face up to her issues and apologise for being such a hateful little brat.
I'm sure Lindsey has forgotten about the tsunami comment. After all, there was no evil intent behind it. Can't stand her, but that comment was blown way out of proportion and MCR/MSI fans didn't bat an eyelash at it.
Of course they didn't. They never bat an eyelash at any of the horrible things these bands say and do.
For me personally feminism and women's rights is a big issue and when I see a band I used to respect for being allies to the cause merge with a hate-filled project like MSI and then do a 180 on their previous stance (...)
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree here. It all started before MCR got involved with MSI. Maybe they still cared more to appear like they actually knew what feminism means or that they had an interest in fighting misogyny. I think it was with MSI that they realized that they don't have to appear like the good guys anymore to still have an audience and could earn some rock credibility with becoming offensive assholes.
Well, we all know how well that worked out, right?!
Siobhan, thank you for the "like!"
You're welcome. You can't imagine what idiotic nonsense I got to read. Especially from loons who tell me that I should get a life when they are the ones doing role play on tumblr pretending to be Frank Iero. If that isn't some pathetic shit, then what is? Lol
"This has nothing to do with hormones, MCR fans appear very intolerant which is very ironic to say the least."
AGAIN *some MCR fans.
It puts us on an equal footing with some of the people on this blog then.
This statement explains so much. I suppose it's a lot easier to swallow MSICR's misogyny when you're a misogynist yourself.
That is just out of order, as much as you claim this is what I am it will not make it true.
"So are you saying that it's perfectly okay for people to lie to you? To change their so-called "truths" around constantly to suit their purpose at the time? And you just accept that and go along with it?
In my opinion, that's called being a doormat. Sorry, but I'm just not the doormat type. I wouldn't accept that kind of behavior from my friends or family, and I'm certainly not going to accept it from a bunch of self-important musicians who don't give a fuck about me."
If they don't give a fuck about you, why give a fuck about them?
The people in this blog could been seen as self-important, they seem to think by making statements over the internet they are improving things. Being all guns blazing all the time doesn't work. "Calling them out" will not work, seeing as they don't give a fuck about you.
The whole "don't bother understanding us, deal with it" Why not just try some kind of community cohesion?
If no one WANTED to fight then no one would.
They will give a fuck when people stop buying their records because they're shitty people. Oh wait, that's already happening! Just watch it get worse. The more they expose their nasty sexist and racist personalities and flaunt their friendships/marriages with equally disgusting people, the more their bank balances will suffer.
You've never heard of Kanye West or John Lennon have you?
People don't stop buying music because the people who make the music are sexists, women beaters or abandon their children. Fans don't stop buying music because the person who writes or makes that music is a shitty person.
Fans don't stop buying music because the person who writes or makes that music is a shitty person.
Well, I do.
^THIS
Kanye wouldn't have charted so high with his latest release if people cared so much about him being a shitty person and he wouldn't have won all the awards he's won if the type of person he is affected sales.
Like it or not that's the way it is and no amount of hate blogs affected his sales. No amount of hate blogs will affect MCR's sales no matter how important you want to think this blog or your other blogs are.
Sales are down across the board and it has nothing to do with anyone being a shitty person. It's the economy and the state of the music industry.
AGAIN *some MCR fans.
It puts us on an equal footing with some of the people on this blog then.
Why are you so concerned what we think of you? To remind you it's you people that come here to attack our opinions not vice versa.
I agree with 2:31 and it's another reason why they shouldn't be concerned with this blog.
The 5 of you here really don't have any affect on music sales 2:27 no matter how much you want to believe that you do.
"Lady Gaga's Born This Way set another record this week, but not one that Gaga's team will be happy about. Sales of the album dropped off by 84% from its sizzling (but discount-inflated) opening week. That's the the steepest drop-off in sales, expressed in a percentage basis, of any of the 17 albums that sold 1 million units in a week in Nielsen SoundScan history."
That sales drop isnt because she's a shitty person or because of the amount of weed she smokes, JD she drinks, who she tours with or f*cks or anything she does in her personal life.
It must of been Gaga's meat dress! All the vegans boycotted her after the first week of sales. ^_~
"MUST HAVE," ffs. Not "must of." What does that even mean, people?
It means the same thing as musta. They both mean the same the same thing as must have. You don't havta be a rocket scientist to figure that out. Duh.
We don't have to do anything to affect MCR's music sales. The fact that they are not terribly talented and put out a crappy album already did that work for us.
I don't think the people on this blog ever intended to affect MCR's music sales in any way. It's just a place where people come to blow off steam. Too bad someMCR fans (lol) take so much offense to it. *shrug* Oh well. Their problem, not mine.
I would just like to take some time out to say Kap's tumblr is awesome lol i was reading the mcr post at about 1 am and screaming "I know right?!" Does any one else on here have a tumblr as good as hers ?
5:30, "musta" is a colloquialism. "Must of" is a meaningless phrase. But by all means, continue to murder the language; it makes you sound so smart.
6:45, my Tumblr is pretty boring. :) Siobhan's got the Tumblr that really calls out MCR. I only did it once or twice. The rest is mostly pics and reblogs, occasionally some feminist rants. ^_^
uh Lindsey said she was apart of riot girl?
That's preposterous. The Riot Girl or Riot Grrrl movement was about empowering women. The movement said to women, "YOU MATTER."
It was about women being actual musicians and shoving it in the face of male "rockers" who insisted that women could not play their instruments. Lindsey has been pretty adamant about the fact that she is not, in fact, a bassist - just someone who does backbends.
The Riot Girls didn't have to marry rock stars and then be dragged along on tour with them to get a leg up in the business. No Riot Girl would ever accept that kind of coat-tail riding.
Definitely no Riot Girl would ever have been in a band with men using typical machismo BS lyrics about degrading women as worthless and useless.
Lindsey's not a Riot Girl. She's Ann Coulter in loud clothes.
you've got a point there 7:39
lol
How did I end up in Cobra Starship? I joined eharmony, posted a couple tit pics and here I am. vickytcobra.tumblr.com/
Riot girls 4evA!
Using what they got to get what & where they want.
The best, most effective, most in yo face form of feminism there's been since the burning of the bra.
She's a hot mess. Something the so called feminists here wouldn't understand. They're still stuck in the dark ages of the feminist movement. Where the prim and proper women put down other women for going braless, showing their nipples and tits and doing backbends to get a job that would normally go to a man. Hussies and tramps.
Kathleen Hannah founder of the riot girl movement proudly displays the word slut on her stomach.
The riot girl movement is a crock for the majority of females in the real world. It doesn't teach a woman how to get a decent paying job to allows a woman to live independently and support themselves. You know what does that? Usually an education
Some dimwit that bends backwards in a "rock" band is not an example of how to be an independently successful person in their own right. There are many other females in the music industry that filled that void and they came way before her.
So Blogger ate my comment again, huh?
Siobhan, thank you for the "like!"
You're welcome. I already mentioned in the comment that disappeared that you should have read the nonsense which was sent to me. People who have role playing blogs on tumblr and pretend to be Frank Iero dare to call me pathetic and that I should get a life. Hilarious.
Connect your tumblrs to this blog and people will find it and come.
They're insane. It's still rolling in, too. I actually kind of like to see them get worked up, though. :)
As far as how women dress and what they wish to call themselves, hey, go for it. If I want to walk around braless or even naked, that would be my choice. No one has the right to touch me or harass me.
Getting a job because of it, though? Yeah, not feminist.
"Getting a job because of it, though? Yeah, not feminist."
THIS!!!!!!
The thing is that, on my blog, they get more worked up about the things I say about their dear sociopathic Frankles than the things I say about Gerard. The one entry about Frank's coat hanger tweet got 40 notes alone from crazy, pissed off Franken-Stans.
Connect your tumblrs to this blog and people will find it and come.
What do you mean? Leading them to this blog? Do you really want those idiots here? I know that I don't because they're not at all interested in a discussion.
Although I have to be fair that a handful of those people stated their opinion without the typical #dieslow and I'd smash your face for free threats.
It's weird, out of all the replies I got, some anonymous, some not, only one of them said "You have the right to your opinion, but I disagree" etc. The rest are all just "OMG DIE" "YOU SUCK" "HATER" and one that I really enjoyed, "UR UNEDUCATED."
O_O
OMG, Franken-Stans! Good word.
I remember once some MCRmy minions threatened to cut me with a blunt razor or some silly s*** like that. How can anyone take them seriously when they behave like that?
UR UNEDUCATED
Bwahahahahahaha! Unbelievable.
I think it's really sad when people say that they are disappointed in them but that they still have hope and hold onto them because they helped them getting through bad times. It always makes me think how many teenagers out there must have nobody to turn to in times of despair. No family and no friends. How sad is that? And then idiots like MCR take over and have such a bad influence on them. One can only hope that most of them will grow out of this and realize in a few years (if not sooner) who they supported and what sick mindset they adopted only because they thought they'd owe those assholes their life.
It is actually very sad. I think a lot of teenagers feel like that, though. "Music saved my life, no one understands me" etc. I was like that when I was like, 14 or so.
I definitely outgrew it. Looking back at the bands I listened to, I'm appalled now at their lyrics and how seriously I took them. I honestly had really poor self esteem, because all of the bands I liked wrote about how women should be strippers, and how awesome strippers were etc. and I thought, "Well, I'll never be a stripper; I'll never be good enough."
I think it's a phase, hopefully one they'll grow out of.
Teenage years are a time of transition. It's difficult for almost everyone and yes a high proportion of teens go through the no one understands me stage. I felt unsure of myself as a teen but I was lucky to have teachers family and friends who believed in my capabilities and thought I could do something with my with them. Not everyone is so lucky.
tongue twisted! ^ with them
I remember once some MCRmy minions threatened to cut me with a blunt razor or some silly s*** like that. How can anyone take them seriously when they behave like that?
Honestly? I think they feed off each other and become frenzied in the heat of the moment then say the most ridiculous things.
Music let me open up and meet new people, make new friends who had the same ideas as I did. That's the only way that music saved my life.
Maybe it grounded you and gave you purpose rather than save your life.
Oh, don't get me wrong: music can be very uplifting. I can't tell you the number of times a song has saved my mood, given me the exact feeling I needed at the right time. I've also met awesome people through music. There is certainly a kind of salvation in music, for sure.
And I'm sure that some people might get to a point where they think, "I'm the only one who feels like this and it's killing me," and then maybe they hear a song with lyrics that so perfectly describe what they're going through, they feel they finally have something to relate to.
I also believe that's exactly why it's so crappy for musicians (and writers, poets, ANYone whose work reaches a lot of people) to treat those people poorly.
Okay, so take for instance Mysterious Skin, we were talking about that the other day. Not a song of course, but a movie: a medium for connecting with a wide audience and telling them a story.
Tragically, that's a story that a lot of people can relate to.
So, I definitely believe that when you share something like that, something that comes out of the depths like that, and show it to people who can potentially say, "That affected me very much," you almost have the responsibility not to eff around like that.
Like, can you honestly imagine if JGL had a roomful of people who had seen that film and were affected by that, and stood up on a stage telling rape jokes or singing about how hilarious the sexual exploitation of children is?
The fact is that after you open a vein like that, you sort of have a contract with the people who bled along with you, not to punch them in the nose the next time you see them.
Convoluted metaphor is convoluted but I hope some of you understood that.
Like, can you honestly imagine if JGL had a roomful of people who had seen that film and were affected by that, and stood up on a stage telling rape jokes or singing about how hilarious the sexual exploitation of children is?
What about if someone in your audience has predatory-like inclinations? Does it normalize in their heads?
It's weird, I was just reading something on Tumblr about normalization and acceptance of violence, hatred and rape and such.
While I am against censorship, always have been and always will be, I have to say that YES, I definitely think that certain media normalize predatory behavior. These people / organizations / bands / etc. marginalize the victims, too, often with blame. "Rape isn't a good thing, BUT..." Like that. I swear, if you have to defend something you've said about race, gender, sexuality, etc. then that usually means you're about to excuse it - to normalize it. To make it acceptable.
It is very permissive. The thing I read on Tumblr (and reblogged it, too,) is that rapists are listening very, very carefully to what people are saying about rape. And once they get something ingrained in them like, "I think that rape is wrong, BUT..." they take that into consideration.
Like, "raping a woman is bad, but if she's dressed like a slut / is drunk / is walking home alone, it increases her chances of getting raped." Rapists hear that, and they totally understand that what these people mean is "asking for it."
That's the thing: we form our perceptions and visions of ourselves and others through words and imagery. Language is a very powerful tool. It influences our cognition and self concepts. Those inclined or predisposed to certain things may be reinforced by certain words and images. Not everyone has the ability or foresight to question things. Which leads on to censorship. I find myself on two stances with censorship. While I agree in principle with not censoring I think in some circumstances it is actually wildly irresponsible.
Those inclined or predisposed to certain things may be reinforced by certain words and images. Not everyone has the ability or foresight to question things
You mean like pedophiles could use movies like Mysterious Skin to get off.
Excuse the sick nature of those words but if you think a song like Panty Shot can provoke pedophiles into action how can you not think visual imagery would be even more of provocation?
If simply hearing words like I Can See Between Her Legs 5 Year Old Pantyshot stimulates these sick and disturbed individuals, seeing those words acted out on the screen must stimulate them even more.
How can any of you in any fairness consider the visual form art and praise that form but consider the aural form sick?
How can you praise JGL and a movie for getting you angry about pedophilia and child rape but criticize JU and MSI for doing the exact same thing?
That smells.
^ of the typical hypocrisy always on display at this blog
Was that your point 8:46? It is a good and valid point and should be given consideration.
Do you read comments properly 2:22 because you completely misinterpreted what what being said. It wasn't about being stimulated by the imagery it was about how it is presented to normalize a dysfunctional behavior.
^ of the typical hypocrisy always on display at this blog
Well this comment displays the typical idiocy of people that come here and don't read comments properly.
Is it the messenger and not the message or the emotions the message stirs up in you?
Was this a masterpiece because of the subject or because of the artist?
Would it be considered a masterpiece if Joe Blow was the artist or would it be just pictures of tomato soup cans?
Forgive me 2:50. I gave you too much intellectual credit. I thought maybe you could see beneath the surface. It won't happen again.
I thought maybe you could see beneath the surface
The same old same old. Don't worry my intellect is well intact 3:02, though you should be concerned for yours.
but criticize JU and MSI for doing the exact same thing?
You must be joking.
Frank's being racist again on twitter. This time against native Americans.
On a lighter subject...MGG fans, have you guys seen this? Found this yesterday.
http://kru87.tumblr.com/post/7184758695/le-sigh
It's impossible to have a true discussion here. That's been proven time and time again.
"though you should be concerned for yours."
Thanks mom. I wub u 2.
Agree. You can't have a true discussion with MCR/MSI biased fans. That's been proven time and time again.
I have to say, I can't take anyone who defends MSI seriously. I just can't make myself do it. It actually makes me sick when I see those lyrics, (I've never listened to the track). Anyone who defends them deserves a boot up their ass.
How can any of you in any fairness consider the visual form art and praise that form but consider the aural form sick?
How can you praise JGL and a movie for getting you angry about pedophilia and child rape but criticize JU and MSI for doing the exact same thing?
This is ridiculous. No one here is speaking for sociopaths, first of all.
Second of all, if you can't see that Mysterious Skin demonizes sexual predation, and "5 year Old Panty Shot" plays it for laughs and has nothing negative to say about it, then you're pretty hopeless, aren't you?
Third, as I said, I'm against censorship. People are responsible for their own actions. If a song is going to make someone get off on sexualizing a child, they were probably going to do it anyway.
That doesn't stop me from thinking that MSI are a bunch of disgusting, hate-driven, misogynistic animals who also have a kind of responsibility, as do we all, to be decent people - one which they pretty much shrug off.
5:30, I have seen that. Isn't that the cutest thing? ^_^ He's such a muffin. <3
Mysterious Skin: "Rape and child predators are terrible and destructive."
MSI: "Rape and child predators are hilarious!"
2:22: "They both said 'rape and child predators!' Clearly they mean the same thing!"
Sane people: *facepalm*
Kapunua it's pointless trying to make sense with some of these MSCR fans. The ones that keep returning here flying the you're all hypocrites banner think they understand all these "deep layers" allegedly beneath the MSI lyrical surface as they are in possession of such high intellect and interpretive skills when in reality they reason like low brow knuckle draggers.
lol
As opposed to the high brow knuckle draggers who post here. They're always fair and reasonable.
Mark Ryden and Camille Rose Garcia thank highbrow people like you who pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for their lowbrow art.
And they keep on coming 2:21.
What amazes me about MSI fans is that they believe Jimmy Urine is some sort of lyrical genius when in actual fact he is just a dumbass writing incredibly offensive and plain old stupid lyrics.
Oh yeah, their poo song just screams lyrical genius. Must be some deep hidden meaning there that just evaded us ^_^
"Agree. You can't have a true discussion with MCR/MSI biased fans. That's been proven time and time again."
It could be seen as the other way round, I have had a few discussion with people who are against MCR and the fans and when you both try not to get each others backs up and treat each other like morons it goes well.
There is fault on both sides. People from here and from MCR can be both really understanding or down right rude.
2:21, you are so correct.
4:56, what are you even talking about?
6:45, the difference is that no MCR fan is going to convince me that they are a good band, or that they are even good people. On the other hand, I do know a lot of people who used to be MCR fans and who walked away. It seems to be a one-way street, doesn't it just?
But no person on this blog is going to convince me that they make bad music or are truly bad people.
I know many people who are fans.
Two way street.
No, anon, you clearly don't understand what I'm saying. I said "one-way street" because once people seem to understand what MCR is truly like, they never go back. They can't seem to close their eyes against it again.
That doesn't mean everyone is going to go running away from them. You're not - that's fine. Whatever.
But how is that a "two-way street?" Do you understand what we're talking about here?
But no person on this blog is going to convince me that they make bad music or are truly bad people.
Then why are you here? What do you gain by coming here? Why don't you all just stay away and remain on your countless MCR-idolizing forums on which you can worship your supastars until you're blue in the face?
It has been said numerous times now; we don't go to your forums or visit your Twitter or Tumblrs or blogs to tell you what we think.
This is our place.
So, if you don't have doubt and want to have more information on the hypocrisy, misogyny and idiocy of MCR or feel that you can't reveal what you truly think on all those MCR fan forums, then what are you doing here??????
new image for MCR?
Honestly I don't think the fans would be hanging around this blog if they didn't see--and worry about--the truth they know is here. If they didn't see it, they'd just brush it aside. But instead they come here to try to justify this band. That tells me all I need to know.
I totally agree with what you just said, Kapunua. If I like someone and I discover that other people have something against them, I just let it go. I figure that there are enough fans to make up for the haters.
But in MCR's case, I think the fans see that we have a very good reason for disliking them. They also know deep down that MCR is only marginally talented at best and their shelf life is pretty limited.
If they didn't see the truth in the things we say, they'd forget this blog exists.
Yup, I'm the same way. I don't care if people like or hate the same folks that I like. I know a lot of people dislike JGL, think he can't act, think he's the biggest pretentious hipster. Well, he might be. I don't really care about that, and I don't care if people think that's true. I don't actually care if it is true. He's not hurting anyone with his pretentious hipsterness. :D
Unless something has a hint of truth in it, and it's something really important to me, I really DGAF.
For instance, for years I've been a huge fan of Jonathan Rhys Meyers. I've always thought he was a brilliant actor, talented, driven, and pretty gorgeous. Then recently I found out that he used the N word at someone in a drunken rage last year.
It bothers the hell out of me, but I can't support him anymore. I wouldn't try to deny that he did that, and I wouldn't try to excuse it. It's a crap thing to do. So, I'm over my years-long adoration of him. :/
Other than things like that, why the hell would I care what anyone else thought about someone I was a fan of? It's ridiculous. The only way I would care was if I thought there was truth to what they were saying. In which case, I would want to find out for myself.
So sad about Jonathan Rhys Meyers. I kind of fell in love with him in Velvet Goldmine. But yeah, I have to agree with you about how he's turned out. I find I just can't support the guy anymore. :(
I'm kind of on the fence right now with Michael Fassbender. I loved him in X-Men and Jane Eyre, and I don't think there's enough evidence to write him off based on the unproven accusations his ex made, but when other people say they can't support him I am not bothered by it. I figure it's their choice.
If those allegations are ever proven though, I've watched my last Michael Fassbender film.
I've never seen him in anything, but I would have to agree. I just don't know enough about what supposedly went on to form any opinions about it, but honestly it has made me keep my distance.
Rhys-Meyers, that whole thing really saddened me. I knew he'd been having some substance abuse problems, which was pretty depressing. But I always feel like when that kind of hatred comes out, it's in there to begin with.
It is very sad about him, though. Velvet Goldmine was a brilliant movie. I also loved him in Gormenghast, Titus Andronicus and, holy crap, The Lion in Winter.
It's really hard for me to be that snap judgemental on someone. I think I tend to hang out in the grey area of life.
Yeah, I'm sure you're so tolerant that you don't have any uncrossable lines, anon.
Well, I'm sorry, but I refuse to tolerate intolerance.
At least you apologised for your intolerance, and really, I'm honestly trying to think of uncrossable lines, I suppose if it affected my family or wellbeing. Music and lyrics doesn't.
LOL
Thick.
I can't imagine completely writing a person off for one, two or a few mistakes. It must be horrible living life with such impossible to meet standards. It must be horrible and very lonely.
I'm starting to believe that these MSI/MCR fans willfully misinterpret and ignore bad behavior simply in order to continue following a group of people that reflect their own subconscious beliefs and cultural prejudices.
"I'm starting to believe that these MSI/MCR fans willfully misinterpret and ignore bad behavior simply in order to continue following a group of people that reflect their own subconscious beliefs and cultural prejudices."
That is silly talk. They ignore things so they can enjoy the music or because they realise that it's overblown nonsense and probably shock tactics or just a twisted sense of humour.
People don't have all these layers and schemes.
"That doesn't mean everyone is going to go running away from them. You're not - that's fine. Whatever.
But how is that a "two-way street?" Do you understand what we're talking about here?"
Because that's not true, People do realise they make good music and start listening to them.
"then what are you doing here??????"
Firstly I wanted to understand, and then it was to try and prove people can talk with opposing views without verbally ripping each other to shreds. (That ain't going so well.) Honestly, I think people need to mix a bit more like if you went on the MCR sites maybe you wouldn't hate the fans so much. Or call them pieces of meat. Believe it or not we're not after your IP address...
Compare it to community cohesion, There is no use in hating a large group of people, so we might as well try not to hate.
Wide spread understanding changes things. Offensive words just don't.
People don't have all these layers and schemes
Not much.
I think people need to mix a bit more like if you went on the MCR sites
No you are confused. The people on the MCR sites are fans we are not.
they realise that it's overblown nonsense and probably shock tactics or just a twisted sense of humour.
Isn't it always? ^rolls eyes
That is silly talk. They ignore things so they can enjoy the music or because they realise that it's overblown nonsense and probably shock tactics or just a twisted sense of humour.
"willfully misinterpret and ignore bad behavior simply in order to continue following a group of people that reflect their own subconscious beliefs and cultural prejudices."
^This
Are you one of the Borg 6:13 and trying to have everyone here assimilate?
Wide spread understanding changes things. Offensive words just don't.
Tell that to your idols MCR and MSI.
I suppose if it affected my family or wellbeing. Music and lyrics doesn't.
So all you care about is you and your own? You don't care if other people get hurt?
Typical.
But how is that a "two-way street?" Do you understand what we're talking about here?"
Because that's not true, People do realise they make good music and start listening to them.
Yeah, you're totally not understanding what I'm saying. That does not mean "two way street." If you managed to come in here and convince people to start liking them again, after realizing what they had done and what they were like, that would be a two-way street. That's not going to happen.
I can't imagine completely writing a person off for one, two or a few mistakes. It must be horrible living life with such impossible to meet standards. It must be horrible and very lonely.
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. Anyone who doesn't want to hear racist, sexist, angry words, and be around a bunch of irresponsible, hate-filled people must be sooooo sooo lonely. FOREVER ALONE. It's so much better--easier--to lower your standards and just sit there and take it.
Yeah, so much NO.
You may not believe this, but the people in my life actually don't talk like that. They're not abusive to others. They don't go into airports in drunken rages yelliing racist obscenities at people. *LE GASP*
Or call them pieces of meat
You're making things up. No one has ever said this here.
If I had to stop being friends with people who used the n word I wouldn't have many black friends left.
Your privilege is showing. People of color can refer to themselves in any way they want. That doesn't give white people the same right.
If I had to stop being friends with people who used the n word I wouldn't have many black friends left.
Yes, and if you have white friends who would dare to walk down the street in a primarily black neighborhood saying, "Sup, Nigga?" to everyone they meet, they'd most likely all get their asses kicked.
I think less "get their asses kicked" and more "hurt a lot of innocent people by acting like an ass." I don't assume that there would be violence involved, but of course it would upset a lot of people, and rightly so.
I don't think you have any black friends, 9:46. I do, and most of them don't go around using the n-word with one another. They don't live in "the hood" and they aren't rappers. Like Kapunua said, if I or any of our other white friends called one of them the n-word they would be hurt and we would lose them as friends.
Honestly, I think people need to mix a bit more like if you went on the MCR sites maybe you wouldn't hate the fans so much. Or call them pieces of meat.
Been there. Done that.
I used to be very involved in the MCR fandom on lj. People who used to be my "friends" called me horrible names, sent me hate mail and spammed my lj with "I hope you die" type comments just because I expressed the sentiment that Gerard was lying about not having a girlfriend and that he was actually with Eliza (which, it turns out he was).
No way I'm going to seek out those lunatics again.
Gerard was lying about not having a girlfriend and that he was actually with Eliza (which, it turns out he was).
I love how he tried to play the victim in that situation too... he should be an actor
5:39, you know what, you are absolutely correct. I seriously don't know a single person of color who uses the N word. Now that you mention it, I agree that above anon actually doesn't have "SOME BLACK BEST FRIENDS" (god, is that the oldest line in the book or what?) and that all they have is an ignorant and narrow view of what "black friends" actually are. Probably stuff they saw on TV or at the movies.
That is not to say that no one ever uses the word, and I have definitely heard POCs making jokes about their own race. One of my pals and I share a Native American heritage and we've often joked about the cultural views of that. And as a woman, I am aware that it's perfectly fine for me to joke with my close friends and call each other names, but that if anyone else did it, it would be wrong.
So yeah, people do joke like that about themselves / their position / their culture / race / gender / orientation sometimes.
But that anon up there really sounded like someone spouting stereotypes.
Interesting how the only person who actually used the n word is a reg who claims that the only people who use that word are racists.
Sup, 11:14 AM?
They're just privileged and protected light skin people pretending to be something else. It's obvious they never spent any time with people in the hood or on the streets to know what goes down. They those highbrow fakes who talk about it but never touch it. They're too good to ever stoop low enough to touch it.
What's your problem 12:49? No tattooed idiots to hang with tonight?
Why should they leave their privileged and protected lives to go down to the hood or skid row to learn about what's going on there? To hear how those people talk about themselves and other people. It's much safer for these regs to point fingers on blogs and pretend that they know what they're talking about.
Do you have a camera 12:53? Why dont you go out to the public housing hood tonight and take some pics and videos of the people there? Talk to them. See what language they use and what they do for yourself. You aren't afraid of the stereotypes are you?
Stupid idiot.
What's your problem 12:49? No tattooed idiots to hang with tonight?
Must be the case.
Hahaaa! They wouldn't go within 10K of some junkie with a dirty needle sticking out of his arm, a prostitute turning a trick with her baby in the back seat of a stripped car or a homeless vet on skid row saying he'll do anything for a rose. They'd shit their pants if they ever saw any of those things. No matter the color of the skin.
No tattooed idiots
What a racist, ignorant and elitist comment? Don't you know the history of tattoos? Google it and learn just how racist that comment is.
Do you have a hangup about where you come from or what! You're really intimidated by us. Silly person.
Shut up. You're a fool.
We intimidate you. That's funny!
Do we really make you feel so bad about yourself 1:25? Life's not that bad!
Why should they leave their privileged and protected lives to go down to the hood or skid row to learn about what's going on there? To hear how those people talk about themselves and other people. It's much safer for these regs to point fingers on blogs and pretend that they know what they're talking about.those people"? You're either hopelessly ignorant, or a very bad troll.
Interesting how the only person who actually used the n word is a reg who claims that the only people who use that word are racists.
Sup, 11:14 AM?
July 8, 2011 12:36 AM
Excuse me?
I happen to be a POC, and I'm just telling you the way things are. If some white people come to my neighborhood saying "Nigga", they're going to get their asses kicked. If you don't believe me, try it some time.
Also, as a POC, I resent the implication that all primarily black neighborhoods are full of prostitutes and junkies. Not only are some of you MSI supporters racist, but you're some of the most ignorant people I've encountered on the internet. Have you ever even met a black person IRL?
POC you're not making any sense. First you're saying that white people are "going to get their asses kicked" and second you're saying that you resent people thinking that blacks are all prostitutes and junkies.
I still don't understand why it's OK for YOU to say the word, but God forbid Frank should say it.
5:21 are you that stupid?
Neither side of this argument is looking very good. Maybe a change of topic would be better. Agree to disagree. Move on.
5:21, you are the epitome of white ignorance and prejudice.
^and privilege
MCR are playing at the ITunes festival? Wow. Glad I'm not there.
Do you feel like you’ve got a point to prove to some people this summer?
Frank Iero
Um... (long pause) Nah, I don’t have to prove anything to anybody. I am who I am, we are who we are - we’ve been around for ten years, y’know? It’s one of those things where I’m proud of the band I’m in, of who we are, of who my best friends are, and if somebody doesn’t get that then that’s bad on them. I don’t have to prove that shit to anybody.
http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/interviews/my-chemical-romance-blood-sweat-tears#ixzz1RcFhoCxN
What happened to MCR's "We're not going to tour that much on this record because of our families?"
Seems they've been doing every festival and show they get offered. That very article quoted above talks about how hard they've been touring. I guess when your album isn't selling very well, you might not have anything to "prove", but you have to tour your ass off to make a living.
they've spent almost 7 months touring so far and are set to go on until october. Their breaks barely amount to two months.
My Chemical Romance=on tour FOREVER.
Nice to see Frank being a racist sack of pigshit again on twitter. This time he's making a joke out of Native American culture. Maybe he can joke about black people eating watermelons next...
Men without scalps.
Joan Jett and the blackfeet.
2 more #Native American band names.
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