I believe this blog is more about the people here who come to chat than it is about some stupid sexist band. But, I like the fact that there is a place for everyone to vent about these particular sexists bands, as well as other issues that might be on your mind. I think this blog has grown a lot.
In the past few months we've seen another celebrity lose it and start screaming racist and sexist things (Mel Gibson) and there was some discussion about that too. I personally don't see too much of a difference between Mel Gibson screaming the N word and talking about rape and "bitches" MSI screaming the N word and talking about rape and "bitches". Hate speech is hate speech. Except Mel Gibson seriously wants to hurt people and MSI just seem to think it's funny. It still creates an atmosphere that welcomes hate and violence towards women, by laughing about it and thinking it's so funny.
One thing I want to say here is that I believe the regulars here are too smart to honestly believe that Gerard Way's hair color or other random things has anything to do with pregnancy. I see a lot of trolls coming in pretending to be "someone from VVs" and putting forward these ridiculous theories. I think they're trying to make people here look like they are illogical.
And I know that many people here have spoken out against calling them "fat" or "ugly". So many of you have posted over and over again how you don't care about that. You call people out on their behavior, and things they can help, things they do on purpose..... not how they look. That's what I like about this place.
But from what I can see a lot of the trolls keep bringing those things up, trying to reduce this blog to their level. I said it before and I'm saying it again. The regulars here are not like that and probably know what you're up to.
If you don't like it here, that's fine, you can stay at all your other blogs. Or you can enter into an intelligent conversation. But if all you have to offer is "LOL hair color = pregnancy" or "LOL that woman is FAT" then just know, officially, this blog doesn't welcome that and neither do the regulars.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 1384 Newer› Newest»Lindsey Way is officially her own woman. Now that she has her husband's name, money, and fanbase to back her!
We all as women should be so lucky...
And to revamp the career of your bff!
Lynz uses people, and Gerard lies.
Someday they'll both see each other for what they truly are and then things will get REALLY interesting...
Back up. What were those posts from? They are not Mayo posts.
And I don't think anyone can tell us not to talk about Mayo.
I had fun listening to Kapu tell her stories and clear everything up yesterday.
The two blogs have always been connected, face it.
So were those posts from Mayo's because if so I can't find them!
Or are they posts from a blog of Katherine?
^ agreed. everyone thinks their the same and in ways they are. but they have entirely different agendas and massively different ways of achieving them.
gerard is smarter. that makes him worse in my book.
it also means when he wises up to her manipulations he will hurt her in ways she cant even imagine.
just like eliza.
dont lie to a liar.
^ that was to the relevant conversation. not the mayos troll.
I'd rather talk about Mayo than to continue on with all of this talk about Lindsey.
I really don't care about her. She's boring and irrelevant.
I think we're talking about both of them.
I know I am. But you can leave if you like.
Also, who says Gerard is smart? He's an idiot.
You sound like a fangirl who is jealous of Lindsey to me.
yes. we are talking about both them. which once again is exactly what this blog is about.
NOT MAYOS.
not a fangirl. i just believe he has to be smart to trick millions of women into following his feminist stance.
unless you think all of us are stupid.
I agree with 7:24.
Here we go. Another round of Lindsey hate trolling.
Time to ignore.
Obviously not smart enough to marry someone like LynZ.
Ignore all you like 7:27. Kiss her ass at the art show for us.
Maybe she'll leave Gerard after the art show and then you guys can pretend that he'll fall in love with you. Isn't that what you want?
You're really that stupid aren't you 7:30?
Ohh... Lindsey is the devil. Gerard was so wonderful before he met her!
Who's the stupid one?
I don't like Lynz, but I have no illusions about his affections for her or their child. I personally hope it works out for them for the sake of Bandit.
Listen, I realize that some trolls came over here when Mayo's closed down. But it has NEVER been the intention of this blog to censor thoughts and ideas as long as they don't harass another person.
It is true that this blog was a response to Mayo's originally so there's no need for random anonymous people to come here and say "you're a troll if you talk about Mayo's".
How many times do I have to say it, talk about whatever you want, no one can tell you not to.
The only thing I don't like is people being picked on. But I can't stop you from doing that either.
I don't agree with calling people fat and such. If your opinion is that LynZ is a coat-riding moron that's fine. I actually agree. You sound smarter if you keep it to things that matter.
I refuse to censor anyone who isn't harassing another human being.
Talking about Mayo's is fair game.
Last time I looked it said "verita venom" at the top of this blog. Not "anonymous who doesn't want to talk about certain things".....
Also you MCR trolls are really obvious.
That is all.
You fool, Lindsey is no devil, just good at manipulation. Just like a lot of other females.
Hi VV!
Just like a lot of other females.
Unfortunately.
Thanks Verita!
Thank you, Verita.
I love it when VV gets aggro. ;D
"Last time I looked it said "verita venom" at the top of this blog. Not "anonymous who doesn't want to talk about certain things"....."
LMAO nice one VV.
VV has always been a better hostess than Mayo from day one.
Verita was not being aggro. She made some valid points.
I didn't mean it in a bad way, she was just putting her foot down.
This is not and will never be a Mayo's. If people like Lynz and want to say that, it's fine. If they still love Gerard that's fine too. I'm not trying to change their mind even though I disagree. But I do resent being told I dislike the woman because I have some rawstah fantasy in my head. It's pathetic and immature to accuse people of this.
i think the word is asertive and i may have misspelled it.
OK so... WHere were those posts from. Were they Katherine posts of Mayo posts??
If she shares in songwriting credits, she'll get royalties.
Isn't that usually determined by a court?
It's determined by whoever's name appears on the copyright. If she co-writes the songs, her name will be on the copyright.
It would surprise me if she had some hand in Death before Disco.
All Gerard ever did was swap one attention seeker for another attention seeker, and if this one doesn't work out, he will most likely find another attention seeker because they seem to be the type that attracts him. All bells & whistles but no real substance underneath.
gerard is smarter. that makes him worse in my book.
it also means when he wises up to her manipulations he will hurt her in ways she cant even imagine.
He could be one of these guys that thinks a dumb woman won't try to control him or are easier to handle and do as they're told.
and if this one doesn't work out, he will most likely find another attention seeker
He might even go back to Eliza.
Just heard a new rumor that GW purchased a vacation home for the zoid as a surprise for her BD. Man he seems to enjoy splashing his moolahs on her.
im sorry but i seriously doubt that.
I don't know if that source is believable but I'm erring on the side of possible, as it sounds very much like something he would do in his current state.
Link?
what state?
i meant state as in location not mental. seeing how they live in fancy California and all.
Wow, monkeys, art studios and vacation homes.
Link??
it's not very romantic is it? it's like saying "please! spend more time somewhere else, okay?"...
if it's true. which i doubt. because yeah. just not very romantic. at all.
This is because twitter is down, isn't it?
He could be planning a nice holiday together after her spectacular art show.
I don't know 12:46, me thinks 12:50 has the right idea.
Link???
it's not very romantic is it? it's like saying "please! spend more time somewhere else, okay?"
It usually means nookie, nookie and more nookie
And pool parties.
Nah, I think he wants ship her off to Nome Alaska...
they live in california. i highly doubt he bought her a "summerhome" when they live on the bloody west coast.
youre all way too gullible.
And pool parties
All adds up when you consider the hair and hawaiian shirt.
West coast gets cold too.
Wow. The trolls are really trolling tonight, aren't they?
twitters down. mayos is gone. they got nothing better to do.
The "summerhome" could be somewhere exotic. That's usually what rawstahs do, buy summerhomes in exotic places. He must have been relaxing at his new house before CC and planning to take Lindsey there after her art show.
Well, lets all hope that Lindsey appreciates her vacation house courtesy of her husband.
Don't go trying some new fashion
Don't change the color of your hair
You always have my unspoken passion
Although I might not seem to care
?????
And pool parties.
Yeah, i can tell from Gerard's "tan"
im new to this blog and i'm kind of confused, can someone please explain to me what MCR did for you guys to hate them so much?
I don't know how you guys think Gerard is out buying "summer homes" when he hasn't done anything to earn any money in over a year. Poor Lindsey can't even afford to get her tatts removed yet they're spending money on another house?
Bands don't make the kind of money they used to make and comics are not real moneymakers either. The days of ten million records sold are long gone and MCR isn't Linkin Park or Green Day.
im new to this blog and i'm kind of confused, can someone please explain to me what MCR did for you guys to hate them so much?
Go back and read earlier posts.
Poor Lindsey can't even afford to get her tatts removed
???
Sunday, February 15, 2009
I am the bad guy again.
I am getting way too used to this role.
Yeah. Nothing more I can add to that.
Posted by _ at 3:15 AM 0 comments Sunday, February 1, 2009
I am now reassured this place remains secret.
I kind of wish to rant about things I have no right to place opinion on.
I burst in through every door with confetti and a megaphone only to sneak out the back without even a whisper.
I am unreliable and flighty. But I now understand why.
I only befriend and make love to those I find interesting, those who surprise me.
And once the surprise is gone, I have figured out how they work and can predict their every move, I take my leave.
I'm not looking for real connection or companionship but a show.
And then there's the question of respect. Once someone demonstrates that their moral code or view of the world is something I find unacceptable, my passion fades into a vague aquaintance status.
I used to belittle myself that no one was ever good enough for me. How dare I be judgmental and lack understanding.
I guess I really am happiest alone.
Posted by w at 3:53 PM _ comments Wednesday, January 21, 2009
I'm falling back in to my role.
I don't think it's a bad thing.
I feel like you weren't warned enough.
It's not possible for me to ignore what my 'life purpose' is.
What I've been told by so many from different walks of life.
I am not one for general consensus, but I think, unfortunately, this one holds truth.
I ask you to excuse my inflated ego. To apologize for it would be to lie.
Posted by _ at 7:13 AM 0 comments Thursday, January 8, 2009
Can I learn to relax enough to settle and hold this in comfort rather than contempt?
I don't know where you learned such patience.
I am still waiting for the Big One, the part where this will explode and I'll be free again.
But in the meantime, thank you.
Posted by _ at 11:07 AM 0 comments Wednesday, December 24, 2008
im new to this blog and i'm kind of confused, can someone please explain to me what MCR did for you guys to hate them so much?
Their mothers were hamsters and their fathers smelt of elderberries.
Anon please link to all these Katherine / Mayo posts. This is frustrating. What are you getting at?
If you're just going to come in and randomly post stuff from either blog then you're just as bad as Mayo, being mysterious just to be a jerk to people.
What are you getting at?
That's what I'd like to know too.
I agree. If what you have there is Katherine talking about Mayo, then say it. Link please.
Otherwise you're just being mean.
What's the difference between the game you're playing and the one Mayo played for years?
For those of you who seem to be under the notion that I blindly support everything that comes out of the mouths of artists whose work I admire, let it be known that I recently questioned Papa Gates' "Arizona" song. I know that the man is a humorist, but I also know that A7X is Conservative. Admittedly, I'm wary when someone identifies Conservative (or, to be honest, religious) but I' m willing to get to know them first, because not everyone embraces all of the crooked ideals contained within their association of choice, and change does best occur from within.
The song itself is pretty harmless (it's clearly tongue-in-cheek) but what worries me more than lyrical content (artistic interpretation is subjective anyway) is what the song has already begun to attract. In that respect, I do understand your position on Little Jimmy Urine's lyrics or Frank's (undoubted attempts at being comical - he does admire comedians) tweets.
I'm anti-censorship, but there is such a thing as common sense (see Fred Phelps, Sarah Palin and what they and their followers don't possess even a shred of.) Virtually all of us have had moments where we've left ours at the door, but I'm not going to play Tipor Gore and automatically condemn a person as A, B or C simply due to a piece of art they produced or a poorly thought-out comment.
You guys mentioned Gibson. I think we can all agree that he is a) mentally ill and b) in possession of some very backwards thought processes, but yet, there go the ladies on "The View" and his ex-wife supporting him regardless. Whoopi Goldberg used to be a person that I respected, but her support of Polanski was the last straw for me - he didn't just write a song from a creep's point of view (what I’m convinced that Urine was trying to do,) he committed the act and remains both unrepentant AND unpunished.
Another point: there is such a thing as subculture, and sometimes artists respond from that place (see every rapper out there – it’s common to refer to women as “hoes” and men as the n-word.) It may be unfortunate, but I don’t think it’s fair to conclude that they all conduct themselves in their real lives with no respect either. Your accusations that I or anyone else who wasn't as upset as you were by some of My Chem's behaviors this past few years must be fine with women being abused or slavery were ludicrous.
Oh and P.S.: I never post anonymously on here - again, I've nothing to hide.
P.P.S.: If this duplicate posts, I apologize - blogger was being difficult this morning, which is why I had to log in with my google account rather than my LJ
Another point: there is such a thing as subculture, and sometimes artists respond from that place (see every rapper out there – it’s common to refer to women as “hoes” and men as the n-word.) It may be unfortunate, but I don’t think it’s fair to conclude that they all conduct themselves in their real lives with no respect either.
What you seem to ignore is the fact that these 'artists' have a young, susceptible audience who are quite capable of being unduly influenced by their idols. Young girls who listen to MCR and young men who listen to rap music might not see the behaviors we are talking about as 'tongue in cheek' (or humor, satire, or whatever term you want to use to justify it). This is where the problem lies and I think this is where musical artists should show a bit more responsibility -- especially a band like MCR who claimed to want to be 'role models' early on in their career.
If only one young girl is less likely to leave an abusive relationship where her boyfriend tells her it's 'her fault' she got punched in the face because she read Frank's tweet about it being 'proof of god' when a woman gets punched, then any argument defending his actions automatically becomes invalid. You'll never convince me otherwise.
^THIS.
"What you seem to ignore is the fact that these 'artists' have a young, susceptible audience who are quite capable of being unduly influenced by their idols. Young girls who listen to MCR and young men who listen to rap music might not see the behaviors we are talking about as 'tongue in cheek' (or humor, satire, or whatever term you want to use to justify it). This is where the problem lies and I think this is where musical artists should show a bit more responsibility -- especially a band like MCR who claimed to want to be 'role models' early on in their career."
8:09, I don't disagree that it would be awesome if artists showed concern for the well-being of their audience, but I wouldn't go so far as to dub it a requirement. It's not that I fail to comprehend or that I am justifying anything, it's that I'm unwilling to put the sole blame on an outside influence for the way that a kid turns out. There are a lot of factors and everyone responds differently to stimuli. Case in point: Mel Gibson was raised by a bigot, and he's a bigot too. My father was raised by a bigot, but he's a liberal. Another case in point: my son has been exposed to plenty of homophobia, yet he remains tolerant. The nature versus nurture argument is not that black and white.
What I have noticed, though, is that disturbed individuals are more prone to misinterpret and bend things to suit their outlook than the other way around, and that they can be stimulated by just about anything, no matter how innocent as a catalyst to commit atrocities.
"If only one young girl is less likely to leave an abusive relationship where her boyfriend tells her it's 'her fault' she got punched in the face because she read Frank's tweet about it being 'proof of god' when a woman gets punched, then any argument defending his actions automatically becomes invalid. You'll never convince me otherwise."
Oh, if only it were that easy, 8:09. First off, a woman in a situation like that is generally terrified to leave her abuser - no amount of tweeting by anyone, positive or negative, will change that. I was way more horrified by the comments on Chris Brown's page shortly after the pictures of Rihanna at the hospital surfaced that "bitch deserved it - shoulda hit her twice" by other WOMEN!
One of the reasons that I began following Jessicka Addams after we exchanged a few tweets due to that mess with SnobsandBitches is that I agree with her standpoint that we women are often are own worst enemies. We devote more time and energy toward condemning one another than any man does to us.
That being said, tweets are not well thought-out things, but rather very spur-of-the-moment. Chances are that, were we to all count to ten prior to posting or saying anything, we'd very likely not do so much of the time, because they present an inaccurate picture of who we actually are. Currently, I believe the same to be true about the dudes in My Chem, MSI, etc. Should I be proven wrong somewhere down the line, that will be a bummer, but people are not always going to do what you would like them to do, after all.
"our" not "are." Oops; pobody's nerfect.
"Just heard a new rumor that GW purchased a vacation home for the zoid as a surprise for her BD. Man he seems to enjoy splashing his moolahs on her."
Wasn't her birthday in May though?
"Just heard a new rumor that GW purchased a vacation home for the zoid as a surprise for her BD. Man he seems to enjoy splashing his moolahs on her."
Wasn't her birthday in May though?
I think that was one of our trolls who likes to come round and try to make us seem like jealous idiots.
I doubt Gerard did any such thing, but it's really none of my business whether he did our not. It's his money to do with as he pleases.
(...)but people are not always going to do what you would like them to do, after all.
The thing is that nobody asked them to do anything, dstarpo! Nobody asked Gerard and his lot to play the hero feminists and - in Gerard's case - talk about how disgusted he felt when he thought about how other rock bands abuse their status to objectify women and use them as their sex toys. Why didn't he just keep his stupid pie hole shut?
You can't just come along and claim that it is one of your main goals in life to fight sexism in rock music and then take a 180° turn and say Oh, what the hell. I don't give a fuck anymore. That's just too much work and we want to go back just being a party band. We already have enough stupid girls and women as fans, we don't need to kiss their asses anymore.
I'm also quite concerned as to how Frank is going to behave towards his twin babies who allegedly are girls. I hope he never gets that mad at them that he might want to punch them in the vagina. And I disagree with what you said; a tweet is not something you write in haste. At least not when you're writing more than three short words. You only have 140 characters including gaps so that you really have to think about wording and how to have enough characters left to make clear what you actually want to say.
Also, there is something that is called the delete button.
Sometimes things are said or written without really thinking about the consequences but neither Frank nor Bob ever deleted their misogynistic tweets or picture although they were quite aware that people were offended by them. Why is it so hard to say Sorry people, I was just really pissed off and you're right my tweet/picture was out of line. I apologize and have already deleted it.?
You can clearly see how immature they are when they don't even know how to apologize and admit that they did something wrong. I still remember Bob's fucking stupid Lighten up, it's just a word tweet. Instead of wasting energy with writing this statement he could have just deleted it. That would have been enough. At least for me.
I also wanted to add that with MCR there is also another phenomenon that can be experienced. It's not only girl on girl hate but it's also the phenomenon of 'girl justifies the misogynistic behavior of cute boy/man because in her eyes cute boy/man can do no wrong and everything controversial/discriminating/stupdid cute boy/man says and/or does wasn't really meant that way and cute boy/man isn't really like that'.
The same thing you experienced when reading about Chris Brown.
it's also the phenomenon of 'girl justifies the misogynistic behavior of cute boy/man because in her eyes cute boy/man can do no wrong and everything controversial/discriminating/stupdid cute boy/man says and/or does wasn't really meant that way and cute boy/man isn't really like that'.
The same thing you experienced when reading about Chris Brown.
Exactly. And I don't think there are 'degrees' of misogyny and sexism that can be ignored or brushed aside as 'not all that bad.'
Sure, what Chris Brown did was worse than Frank's tweet and Roman Polanski's actions were far more damaging than JU's idiotic lyrics -- but that does not mean that Frank's tweet and JU's lyrics should be given a free pass because they 'weren't all that bad.' That's just faulty logic.
First off, a woman in a situation like that is generally terrified to leave her abuser - no amount of tweeting by anyone, positive or negative, will change that. I was way more horrified by the comments on Chris Brown's page shortly after the pictures of Rihanna at the hospital surfaced that "bitch deserved it - shoulda hit her twice" by other WOMEN!
What you don't seem to understand is that society as a whole (a person's upbringing as well as society's views on violence against women) contributes to this type of behavior. When the world seems to agree that women are 'deserving' of being punched, tweets like Frank's are just one more drop in the bucket of tolerance towards misogyny and violence against women. Why on earth would Frank (or any other celebrity) want to contribute to that when they have the power to speak out against that sort of thing instead?
People commend Lady Gaga for speaking out against discrimination against gays. Despite her fame, I don't think her opinion is going to do much to really change people's attitudes, but damn it, she tries and that's one of the reason so many people respect her. If she suddenly changed her tune, her supporters would be shocked, disappointed and disillusioned and she would lose fans. I don't see why you can't understand why MCR is being held to that same standard.
Oh, I also wanted to say something about celebrities taking responsibility for their actions. I would like to know what you people think of this.
For some months now I've gotten really interested in Japanese music and Asian music in general.
I also read about some scandals concerning some Asian music artists and they (the Asian public/media) seem to handle things differently.
When music artists in Korea - which are seen as idols - who are underaged themselves are caught in public smoking or drinking or even coming out of a 'love hotel' (Japan) they are expected to apologize to the public/their fans for their behavior and they do it because otherwise it could destroy their career.
There is some Korean rapper called G-Dragon who is a member of a boy band and when he had one of his solo concerts he simulated sex with a girl on stage. The media went apeshit about it because the concert wasn't age-restricted and it was inaproppriate. I think he had to apologize as well.
Hearing about this I have to think about Gerard's stage antics and that nobody gives a damn if there are kids in the audience who actually shouldn't be subjected to this kind of behavior and nobody ever would demand an apology from Gerard.
What do you think? Is the way the Asian public/media holds their celebrities accountable for their actions too exaggerated or do you think that it would do us westeners some good if our celebrities would have to watch what they say and do in public just as much as their Asian counterparts?
I don't believe in any kind of censorship, be it the media or the government. I think artists should be allowed to do what they want.
That doesn't mean I have to agree with what they do. I would have liked an apology from Gerard and Frank and Bob for some of their behavior, but only if they were doing it for the right reasons. If they were being forced by the media/government/record label, etc., it wouldn't mean very much to me.
Actually, I believe in censorship. In a way that there is a time and a place for everything and you shouldn't be subjected to everything just because otherwise it would be censorship.
Here in Germany I sometimes sit in front of my tv and the things I get to see there are unbelievable. Sometimes they show promo trailers for horror or very violent movies at noon or in the afternoon when kids could be watching this. You see zombies, vampires and people being dismembered. You see blood and people being stabbed. They once also showed an autopsy at 5pm. Nothing seems to be censored here. They talk about the work of prostitutes in a very detailed manner and show naked boobs in the morning shows. You can say words like cunt as much as you like.
Maybe people want to see or hear things like that, but why not wait after midnight or at least at a time where no kid should be sitting in front of a tv anymore but lie in their bed and sleep?
Also, with concerts. Why not do it how many other countries do; give concerts for people up to the age of 18 and concerts for people at the age of 18 and over? Then you can say 'fuck' and 'suck my dick' as much as you like and you can do it in front of an audience which can handle it.
I doubt Gerard did any such thing, but it's really none of my business whether he did our not. It's his money to do with as he pleases.
And doesn't mean that we can't talk about it.
It's his money to do with as he pleases.
All his *pro-feminism* money...
Q - When did you join MSI? You had no background in music, right? I know you've said before that you didn't even know what tablature was. How scary was it, jumping right into a touring band?
A- I joined MSI in 2001. Prior, I had no formal training but I owned a bass and played with friends. It was very scary, jumping right in like that, but more than anything it was exciting. I had never even been on an airplane before and suddenly I was flying to Vegas to perform in front of thousands of people. A lot of it was not knowing what I was getting myself into, but mostly I was hungry for an adventure. I also felt like I had nothing to lose and if I failed miserably at the very least I would have a great story to tell my friends. I think that was the key, that I didn't care if I failed miserably.
Q - How long did it take you to start to feel comfortable playing the bass? Was there anything in particular that helped you to feel more comfortable with it sooner?
A - I was in the band touring constantly for years before I owned being a bass player. I will say that although I didn't really know how to play before MSI, when the opportunity presented itself I committed myself to learning and practiced morning, noon, and night. I've never understood the mentality that complicated equals good. My favorite bass lines have always been the simplest ones and if I were to make a list of all my favorite songs none of them contain some crazy bass line only Les Claypool could master. In fact they are probably so simple I could teach you how to play them in an hour. I would rather be Dee Dee Ramone than Flea.
Q - What kind of gear do you use?
A - I've fallen in love with my Fender Aerodyne. It's such a sexy instrument and the neck is thinner than most basses which is great for my small hands. As for gear, I'm not attached to anything other than my bass. Plug me into anything and I will make it work.
Q - It seems like talking about sexism in the music scene or acknowledging the fact that one is a specifically female musician, as opposed to just a musician, is passe. Do you think it's still an important distinction to make? Do you think "female musician" is still an important identity? In what ways?
A - I can only say what my experience has been and the truth is that from the moment I started listening to music, going to shows and playing in a band I have been painfully aware of the lack of female musicians out there. Rock and roll is a giant sausage party. Pick up any music magazine and count how many women you see represented if you don't believe me. I have been a touring musician for 8 years and in that time I can count on maybe two hands the number of women I have encountered in other bands. 3 hands if you include singers. Am I the only one who thinks there is something seriously wrong with that? I'm actually looking forward to the day when having a girl in your band no longer matters because frankly I don't think it does. Making a big fuss out of it it feels like wearing a t shirt that says "chicks rule". I hate that shit. It's such an obvious statement that wearing it makes me think that you're trying to convince me that it's true. That being said I still have no clue why there are so few of us and talking about sexism in the music scene will only be truly passe when that is no longer a fact. Even if you hate our band or hate us individually, somewhere in the back of your brain Kitty and I have made being a woman in music seem a little less unusual and perhaps opened the door to thinking it's something you could do too. That is something I am most proud of. The more women see other women in bands the more women will be in bands. I think that's the only way things will change.
Q - How does being a girl affect your life as a touring musician? What kind of shit do you get and from where?
A - One obvious way is that when you get pregnant you have to stop... Other than that the only thing that can be a bummer is the occasional neanderthal you have to deal with behind the scenes. Kitty and I have been stopped from going backstage after having just played. I'm talking sweat running down your face and bass pick and drum stick in hand because the security guard can't comprehend that we are in the band and not a groupie. We wanted to make t shirts that said "I'm not fucking the bass player, I'm the fucking bass player" still think it's a good idea. Festivals are the worst because you are dealing with multiple bands and all of their crew. I have a lot of amazing, beautiful and intelligent people in my life so when someone behaves like a fucking hillbilly I'm always shocked. I've had crew guys from other bands say shit to me that they would never say to another man because they would get their nose broken. Joke's on them though, MSI isn't going anywhere and neither are all the friends I have in other bands. Who do these people think they are going to work for if they are a known asshole?
Q - Does having another girl in your band make it any easier?
A - Oh god yes. Who better to understand your point of view or borrow a tampon from? Vaginas aside though, I am just really blessed to have Kitty around. She's an amazing person who I've learned a great deal from.
Q - Do you ever get uncomfortable with some of the stuff Jimmy sings, says, or does onstage? I know it's all meant to be tongue-in-cheek and deliberately provocative and funny, but I still get a little weirded out sometimes listening to MSI's lyrics.
A - Ya know, I don't. Sometimes I wonder if it's because I know him personally, making it easy to differentiate between social commentary, irony, silliness and the plain old fucking truth. I think it has more to do with my taste in general though. I love Bill Hicks and Sarah Silverman and Sacha Baron Cohen. I like it when people make me a little uncomfortable and make me think "holy shit, I can't believe what I'm hearing." The same people who want to crucify MSI for the lyrics in "Panty Shot" probably laughed their asses off during Borat and probably sing out loud to "Last Caress" by The Misfits. "I got something to say, I killed your baby today and it doesn't matter much to me as long as it's dead." "I got something to say, I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter much to me as long as she's spread..." That's a classic song. The entire point of "Panty Shot" is to force people to examine the fact that somehow they think things like the racism in Borat or the extreme violence in "Last Caress" is acceptable. Why can you laugh at racism and sing along to killing a baby and raping someone's mother but get offended by a song written from the perspective of a pedophile? It's interesting where people draw lines for themselves. I do it too. Everyone does. Funny that I'm totally ok with all things MSI but offended by watching most hip-hop videos. God bless the first amendment.
Q - How does being a girl affect your life as a touring musician? What kind of shit do you get and from where?
A - One obvious way is that when you get pregnant you have to stop... Other than that the only thing that can be a bummer is the occasional neanderthal you have to deal with behind the scenes. Kitty and I have been stopped from going backstage after having just played. I'm talking sweat running down your face and bass pick and drum stick in hand because the security guard can't comprehend that we are in the band and not a groupie. We wanted to make t shirts that said "I'm not fucking the bass player, I'm the fucking bass player" still think it's a good idea. Festivals are the worst because you are dealing with multiple bands and all of their crew. I have a lot of amazing, beautiful and intelligent people in my life so when someone behaves like a fucking hillbilly I'm always shocked. I've had crew guys from other bands say shit to me that they would never say to another man because they would get their nose broken. Joke's on them though, MSI isn't going anywhere and neither are all the friends I have in other bands. Who do these people think they are going to work for if they are a known asshole?
Q - Does having another girl in your band make it any easier?
A - Oh god yes. Who better to understand your point of view or borrow a tampon from? Vaginas aside though, I am just really blessed to have Kitty around. She's an amazing person who I've learned a great deal from.
Q - Do you ever get uncomfortable with some of the stuff Jimmy sings, says, or does onstage? I know it's all meant to be tongue-in-cheek and deliberately provocative and funny, but I still get a little weirded out sometimes listening to MSI's lyrics.
A - Ya know, I don't. Sometimes I wonder if it's because I know him personally, making it easy to differentiate between social commentary, irony, silliness and the plain old fucking truth. I think it has more to do with my taste in general though. I love Bill Hicks and Sarah Silverman and Sacha Baron Cohen. I like it when people make me a little uncomfortable and make me think "holy shit, I can't believe what I'm hearing." The same people who want to crucify MSI for the lyrics in "Panty Shot" probably laughed their asses off during Borat and probably sing out loud to "Last Caress" by The Misfits. "I got something to say, I killed your baby today and it doesn't matter much to me as long as it's dead." "I got something to say, I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter much to me as long as she's spread..." That's a classic song. The entire point of "Panty Shot" is to force people to examine the fact that somehow they think things like the racism in Borat or the extreme violence in "Last Caress" is acceptable. Why can you laugh at racism and sing along to killing a baby and raping someone's mother but get offended by a song written from the perspective of a pedophile? It's interesting where people draw lines for themselves. I do it too. Everyone does. Funny that I'm totally ok with all things MSI but offended by watching most hip-hop videos. God bless the first amendment
Part two of the interview:
Q - I don't want this to be one of those interviews, but I did want to talk about your marriage to Gerard, at least in terms of the way it's often used to dismiss you as a female musician - referring to you as 'Mrs. Way' in articles about your own band and career. Do people do that kind of shit in person? How do you react to it when it happens, either in print or in person?
A - When I said in an interview with Kerrang that I didn't want to be referred to as Mrs. Gerard Way I was pretty amazed at the negative responses that statement generated. People thought that I was being arrogant and that being his wife was an honor that I didn't even deserve so how dare I not want that title. They thought it was somehow a reflection on my feelings for my husband and they were put off by the fact that he was so vocal about his feelings for me and here I was not even wanting to be known as his wife. I felt like my intentions were pretty obvious but the point I was trying to make was for the most part lost. The fact is, Mindless has been around longer than most bands and that we have had a solid and loyal fan base for a decade, independent of my marriage. As a band we were all very proud of our accomplishments and of all the hard work and sacrifices we had made to make our project a success. As a band it was also always very important to us that we be represented as a band, as four distinct personalities that could not necessarily exist without the sum of all four parts. When I got married suddenly magazines stopped even putting the name of our band in print. It was "Mrs. Gerard Way and co. play blah blah blah..." not only did it strip away my identity but it robbed my entire band of theirs and completely dismissed all the strides we had made together. I also felt like it sent a disgusting message that no matter what you do with your life at the end of the day you will merely be someone's wife. It's a massive insult and anyone who can't comprehend that is a moron. People often ask me "well, what did you expect?" I don't know, to be judged on my own merits, good or bad? For my band to get the respect that it deserves? Call me crazy and fuck human nature but I don't care if it's natural for the world to react that way when you marry someone more successful than you. It's still wrong.
Part two of the interview:
Q - I don't want this to be one of those interviews, but I did want to talk about your marriage to Gerard, at least in terms of the way it's often used to dismiss you as a female musician - referring to you as 'Mrs. Way' in articles about your own band and career. Do people do that kind of shit in person? How do you react to it when it happens, either in print or in person?
A - When I said in an interview with Kerrang that I didn't want to be referred to as Mrs. Gerard Way I was pretty amazed at the negative responses that statement generated. People thought that I was being arrogant and that being his wife was an honor that I didn't even deserve so how dare I not want that title. They thought it was somehow a reflection on my feelings for my husband and they were put off by the fact that he was so vocal about his feelings for me and here I was not even wanting to be known as his wife. I felt like my intentions were pretty obvious but the point I was trying to make was for the most part lost. The fact is, Mindless has been around longer than most bands and that we have had a solid and loyal fan base for a decade, independent of my marriage. As a band we were all very proud of our accomplishments and of all the hard work and sacrifices we had made to make our project a success. As a band it was also always very important to us that we be represented as a band, as four distinct personalities that could not necessarily exist without the sum of all four parts. When I got married suddenly magazines stopped even putting the name of our band in print. It was "Mrs. Gerard Way and co. play blah blah blah..." not only did it strip away my identity but it robbed my entire band of theirs and completely dismissed all the strides we had made together. I also felt like it sent a disgusting message that no matter what you do with your life at the end of the day you will merely be someone's wife. It's a massive insult and anyone who can't comprehend that is a moron. People often ask me "well, what did you expect?" I don't know, to be judged on my own merits, good or bad? For my band to get the respect that it deserves? Call me crazy and fuck human nature but I don't care if it's natural for the world to react that way when you marry someone more successful than you. It's still wrong.
Part two of the interview:
Q - I don't want this to be one of those interviews, but I did want to talk about your marriage to Gerard, at least in terms of the way it's often used to dismiss you as a female musician - referring to you as 'Mrs. Way' in articles about your own band and career. Do people do that kind of shit in person? How do you react to it when it happens, either in print or in person?
A - When I said in an interview with Kerrang that I didn't want to be referred to as Mrs. Gerard Way I was pretty amazed at the negative responses that statement generated. People thought that I was being arrogant and that being his wife was an honor that I didn't even deserve so how dare I not want that title. They thought it was somehow a reflection on my feelings for my husband and they were put off by the fact that he was so vocal about his feelings for me and here I was not even wanting to be known as his wife. I felt like my intentions were pretty obvious but the point I was trying to make was for the most part lost. The fact is, Mindless has been around longer than most bands and that we have had a solid and loyal fan base for a decade, independent of my marriage. As a band we were all very proud of our accomplishments and of all the hard work and sacrifices we had made to make our project a success. As a band it was also always very important to us that we be represented as a band, as four distinct personalities that could not necessarily exist without the sum of all four parts. When I got married suddenly magazines stopped even putting the name of our band in print. It was "Mrs. Gerard Way and co. play blah blah blah..." not only did it strip away my identity but it robbed my entire band of theirs and completely dismissed all the strides we had made together. I also felt like it sent a disgusting message that no matter what you do with your life at the end of the day you will merely be someone's wife. It's a massive insult and anyone who can't comprehend that is a moron. People often ask me "well, what did you expect?" I don't know, to be judged on my own merits, good or bad? For my band to get the respect that it deserves? Call me crazy and fuck human nature but I don't care if it's natural for the world to react that way when you marry someone more successful than you. It's still wrong.
Q - You're so physically fearless onstage. Where does that come from? Do you just "get in a zone" or is it an extension of who you are offstage?
A - It goes back to creating something that didn't exist in my world that I wanted badly. I went to punk rock shows a lot when I was a kid and I was particularly drawn to the uninhibited and fearless performers on stage. I loved the complete disregard for their own well being, like they were above injury and invincible. Mostly I wanted to see a girl on stage doing all those things. Getting dirty and not caring if her make-up got smeared. So when I joined Mindless it was a priority for me to do that. It's hilarious because if you ask anyone in my band they will tell you that off-stage I am the most uncoordinated person they have ever met. I trip and fall constantly and I would say I'm generally pretty shy and awkward. Everything changes when you step on stage. It's pretty magical.
Q - How does being a girl in the art world compare to being a girl in the music world?
A - You are judged on your work and your physical appearance matters not.
Q - Are your visual art and your music related at all? Do they enhance each other or play off each other in any way?
A - They are very separate. My art work is personal and more about my head and my heart. Music for me is more physical. It's about getting to be a super hero for an hour. It's about getting out my aggression and doing things I would never attempt in my normal life.
Q - Who are your top five or ten female bands/musicians?
A - Dolly Parton, Aretha Franklin, Joan Jett, Bjork, PJ Harvey, Bikini Kill, Kim Gordon. I know I'm forgetting a handful.
Q - What about your top five or ten favorite female visual artists?
A - Frida Kahlo is my absolute favorite.
Q - Who are your biggest influences and inspirations, as an artist and as a performer?
A - Frida Kahlo, Paul Gauguin, Ralph Steadman, Georges Melies, Winsor McCay. Jesus, I could go on and on. As a performer I would say anyone who can dance, anyone that's a little weird, anyone that isn't afraid to fall down...
Q - Is there anything you really hope to do in the future, whether as an artist, a musician, or just as a person?
A - As an artist, my biggest dream is to have my own gallery showing and a book of my work published. As a musician, I look forward to the day where Mindless is recognized for being as innovative and original as it really is. As a person I just want to be a little better everyday.
Q - What are you most excited about about being a parent?
A - I grew up never meeting my father so to be able to have a child with such an amazing, funny, thoughtful and beautiful person and to know that this kid is going to have him as a dad is the best feeling in the world. I never knew what real love was until I met Gerard and now I get to love two people that much. It's overwhelming in the best way possible.
Q - Rumor has it you were once in a punk Dolly Parton cover band - true or false? (If false, I am totally starting one!)
A - True! Beg Yer Parton was the name and it was very fun and very short lived. Did I mention bad? We were terrible, I think you should start your own punk rock Dolly cover band and do the woman some justice.
Q - Finally, what advice do you have for girls who want to be in a band?
A - Start your band already. Come up with a good name, beg, borrow or steal an instrument and you are literally half way there. Fuck fear and fuck feeling inadequate. There are two kinds of people out there - the people who are putting themselves out there and then there are the people who are commenting on what those people are doing. Who would you rather be? Even if you think I'm full of total shit know that if I can have a career in music you can too.
LynZ is nothing but a stupid two-faced hypocrite much like her husband in my opinion. That web interview was conducted 2 years into her marriage. It's amazing that she never sought to clear her views prior to her marriage.
I'm betting GW helped her with those responses.
Um who would have interviewed the idiot for being some "pioneering" female musician prior to her marriage to G Way? NO ONE.
Start your band already. Come up with a good name, beg, borrow or steal an instrument and you are literally half way there. Fuck fear and fuck feeling inadequate. There are two kinds of people out there - the people who are putting themselves out there and then there are the people who are commenting on what those people are doing. Who would you rather be? Even if you think I'm full of total shit know that if I can have a career in music you can too.
...and when you're tired of playing the toilet circuit, and no one knowing who you are for years, you could try this: find a desperate rockstar who is riding on his fame, fuck his brains out and get him to marry you after six weeks...
Loin-Z, anyone with a brain can see right through you.
As an artist, my biggest dream is to have my own gallery showing and a book of my work published. As a musician, I look forward to the day where Mindless is recognized for being as innovative and original as it really is. As a person I just want to be a little better everyday.
Guess this says it all. Any means to an end, huh?
...and when you're tired of playing the toilet circuit, and no one knowing who you are for years, you could try this: find a desperate rockstar who is riding on his fame, fuck his brains out and get him to marry you after six weeks...
Absolutely.
Get knocked up without his say so, have his child, go on to do that art gallery showing. It seems so easy. He is a fool... but I don't think he cares.
Cuz he's as shallow as the idiot he married.
It just seems to me that if Lindsey were telling the truth about wanting to be known for being in MSI as opposed to being Gerard's wife, she would have objected to Gerard
1)taking MSI out on tour with MCR right after the marriage
2)going on and on endlessly about "my amaaayyyzing wife" in interviews right after the marriage.
Also, she would have told Kerrang! and all those other Brit mags (the ones in the US still didn't give a shit about MSI) to go fuck off when they suddenly wanted interviews after after the marriage when they'd been ignoring MSI for years.
She did everything she could do to capitalize on her marriage to Gerard and then she turned around and blamed the press for it. Hell, she's still capitalizing on it.
She's full of shit.
oldest manipulation in the book and like all men he fell for it hook, line, and backbend...
As a band we were all very proud of our accomplishments and of all the hard work and sacrifices we had made to make our project a success. As a band it was also always very important to us that we be represented as a band, as four distinct personalities that could not necessarily exist without the sum of all four parts. When I got married suddenly magazines stopped even putting the name of our band in print. It was "Mrs. Gerard Way and co. play blah blah blah..." not only did it strip away my identity but it robbed my entire band of theirs and completely dismissed all the strides we had made together.
Is she for real? MSI used to get some press back around 02-03, but after that it's like they totally disappeared from print. And back when they did get interviews, nobody ever wanted to talk to her -- only Jimmy and occasionally Steve. So why wasn't she pitching a fit about that?
Oh wait. Nobody cared about her stupid ass until after she married Gerard.
She's so full of it, it comes out of her ears.
And her mouth, obviously.
And back when they did get interviews, nobody ever wanted to talk to her -- only Jimmy and occasionally Steve. So why wasn't she pitching a fit about that?
Probably because she's so thick she didn't even realise the males-only interviews were sexist. She probably never even contemplated the term feminism until she heard Gerard's fans talking about it.
Also, with concerts. Why not do it how many other countries do; give concerts for people up to the age of 18 and concerts for people at the age of 18 and over? Then you can say 'fuck' and 'suck my dick' as much as you like and you can do it in front of an audience which can handle it.
If they did that they would be cutting out a huge part of their fanbase, especially bands like MCR.
Probably because she's so thick she didn't even realise the males-only interviews were sexist. She probably never even contemplated the term feminism until she heard Gerard's fans talking about it.
It's not about sexism in my opinion. It's about the reason she is in the band itself. She is not a real musician but was, as MSI legend tells, selected by Jimmy Urine solely by her ability to draw attention to the band. Essentially she's just part of the image of the band. All Jimmy Urine did at the time was shop for a new bass player, and the craziest one got the job. She didn't contribute to the lyrical content or composition of the songs which appears to be the brain child of Jimmy Urine and Steve Righ.
She didn't contribute to the lyrical content or composition of the songs which appears to be the brain child of Jimmy Urine and Steve Righ.
Exactly. And she "played" bass onstage with the help of a backing track. For her and JU to claim that he isn't sexist because he has "females in the band" would be about as logical as if Hugh Hefner claimed that Playboy isn't sexist because it has "girls in the magazine".
The same people who want to crucify MSI for the lyrics in "Panty Shot" probably laughed their asses off during Borat and probably sing out loud to "Last Caress" by The Misfits. "I got something to say, I killed your baby today and it doesn't matter much to me as long as it's dead." "I got something to say, I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter much to me as long as she's spread..." That's a classic song. The entire point of "Panty Shot" is to force people to examine the fact that somehow they think things like the racism in Borat or the extreme violence in "Last Caress" is acceptable. Why can you laugh at racism and sing along to killing a baby and raping someone's mother but get offended by a song written from the perspective of a pedophile? It's interesting where people draw lines for themselves. I do it too. Everyone does. Funny that I'm totally ok with all things MSI but offended by watching most hip-hop videos. God bless the first amendment
What a farcical explanation to justify the lyrical content of panty shot. Clearly her stupid husband had a part in this concoction as it reeks of something Gerard would pull out of his ass. All from someone who plays a flashy tattooed punk on stage. Amazingly Jimmy Urine has never tried to explain this piece of garbage to anyone and he has constantly stated in his interviews their songs have no double meanings and are not created to make the audience think.
Not created to make the audience think? I'm shocked.
Anyone know when this LynZ interview was done?
Resemblance?
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http://leniq-gerardway.old.buzznet.com/user/photos/gerard/?id=62692301&p=15#pt
In a couple more years...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html
Haven't we talked about this interview already? That woman is a total airhead and was obviously instructed by Gerard to make her band look as if there actually is a meaning behind their offensive songs and that they weren't just written for shock value and to call attention to themselves or even better, not to call attention to themselves but distract the crowd from their talentlessness.
The funny thing is that Lindsey doesn't seem to have a fucking clue who her band's fans are. From what I could experience by looking at the threads of the German MSI forum, these people aren't exactly humanitarians who listen to MSI because their lyrics are so thought-provoking and shed light on the awful things that happen in our society on a daily basis but nobody really dares to address.
They're just as braindead and callous to those issues as the band members themselves and this proves that if you want to know what kind of band MSI is you only have to go to those fansites and see what kind of people they attract with their music.
If I was Lindsey I would take a good look at what their fans write on those fansites. If what she claims in that interview was the the truth they would have never attracted those kinds of people in the first place.
You will never find a thread there on which MSI fans discuss the 'panty shot' song and see it as some kind of awareness anthem against pedophilia. They just don't give a fuck.
Hmmm, I wonder why????
Could it be that it's because the band didn't give a fuck before they associated themselves with MCR and were kindly asked or even begged by Geefart to polish up their image so that the feminist hero wouldn't have to fear being asked inconvenient questions as to why he suddenly wants to tour with a band whose image and 'message' is completely the opposite of what MCR's image and 'message' used to be?
If MSI really is a band which wanted to raise awareness towards social issues such as racism, sexism, homophobia etc. they would have made sure that people were fully aware of the fact that they are against those things. From the beginning and not just ten years after starting the band.
I, for one, couldn't stand having to face assholes as my fans every night on stage who wouldn't be able to understand the concept of social criticism through satire but would take piss pot at his word instead.
Thing is, if you never ever made sure that people who are interested in your band understand that your songs are satirical and that your fans shouldn't take those lyrics at face value you shouldn't be surprised if real racists, sexists, homophobes and overall misanthropists belong to your core audience.
The entire point of "Panty Shot" is to force people to examine the fact that somehow they think things like the racism in Borat or the extreme violence in "Last Caress" is acceptable.
Funny I don't recall reading or hearing people saying the racism portrayed in Borat was acceptable, or that that extreme violence portrayed in anything is acceptable. She also misses the point that the humor of Borat is due to the absurdity of the situation, not because it's condoned. This cannot be compared to a crime that destroys the life of children that have these experiences.
MSI fans are so cutting edge that when Jimmy sang F lyrics Clarissa or Pussy all night they all stood still and started questioning their feelings towards misogyny, and when Jimmy fired up his pubic hair they all knew it was a very public statement against homophobia.
;)
The entire point of "Panty Shot" is to force people to examine the fact that somehow they think things like the racism in Borat or the extreme violence in "Last Caress" is acceptable.
God, she is so fucking stupid. Some people shouldn't be allowed to procreate.
As if one of their fans would listen to that song and then suddenly think something along the lines of Huh, the song lyrics like are so violent and like disgusting this makes me like question other violent and like disgusting songs.. Even if they did in the very next secone their thought would most likely be Oh, look! Jimmy like sets his pubic hair on fire. Hahahahaha, like cuuuuuute!!!! Er, what was I like thinking about like a second ago? Ugh, who like fucking cares. PAAAAARTAAAAYY!!!!
Jimmy fired up his pubic hair they all knew it was a very public statement against homophobia.
And the videos of him screwing muppets were all about his pro-feminism. Jeez, how did I miss that?
From Jessicka's twitter:
@JessickaAddams Collaborations with other artists? I can guess one -_-
@gerards_crotch Shhhh. Don't ruin the surprise. :)
So I think Mr. Ginger Hair will collaborate for the art show with his beaautiful wifeey & her strange friend who writes back to G's body parts. Woohoo, AMAAZYYING!
That's to be expected. He's a moron so far up his stinky wife's crotch.
lol obsess much?!...
But if Gerard collaborates with the wifey on her art show, she won't be doing it all on her own. And she's so insistent about how she works so hard to be her own person and all.
/sarcasm
Why doesn't she just take a photo of her arm and stick it on the wall? There you go.... Art!
Sarcasm
So I think Mr. Ginger Hair will collaborate for the art show with his beaautiful wifeey & her strange friend
I think it's Frances that is going to be in the art show with them. She is going by the name Fiddle Tim on her twitter.
Kings of Leon have announced the release of their fifth album, "Come Around Sundown," due October 19 on RCA Records. The 13-song disc was recorded with producers Angelo Petraglia and Jacquire King, who both worked on the band's 2008 breakout album "Only By the Night". "Night" has sold 1.9 million copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
Kings Of Leon Will Keep Playing New Songs on Tour
Kings Of Leon Say New Album is 'Darker'
Speaking with Billboard.com last month, frontman Caleb Followill said that the band's sound expanded for the album, with instruments such as the fiddle, trumpet and lap steel featured on different songs. "I think every one of them really complements the songs," he said, "and I think having done that, it's really gotten us excited for the future and where we can go with the band and what we can do."
After "Night" earned four Grammy Awards and spawned smash singles "Use Somebody" and "Sex on Fire," the Southern rockers hammered out new tracks in New York last February before headlining Bonnaroo in June
Thanks for that post, Anon. I had heard the new KOL record would most likely come out in October, but I hadn't gotten a definitive date or title yet. I'm looking forward to it.
Btw, Only By the Night has sold six and a half million copies worldwide. The 1.9 million is for the US only.
Last year I saw KOL three times (the last time in the fall). They went into the studio this spring and finished their record within about three months, then went back out on tour and they already have a release date.
I know that KOL is not everybody's cup of tea, but they are a hardworking band who makes real music (nothing autotuned here). I'm looking forward to their new release. :D
^I'd also like to add that the people who only know KOL for Sex on Fire and Use Somebody don't know anything about KOL. Their earlier work was amazing (I especially liked Because of the Times) and there are some great songs on OBTN (Closer, Revelry, Crawl). Don't judge them by their US radio hits.
Just saw Inception!
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!
IT WAS AWESOME!
30 Seconds to Mars nominated for 4 VMAs.
Kings and Queens is an epic song and the video is stunning. :D
i find it hypocritical that JU and everyone else are tweeting about Prop 8
Kings of Leon have announced the release of their fifth album, "Come Around Sundown"
Lol, 5 syllables. I think it's cute how obsessed they are with making all their album titles 5 syllables. Silly superstition probably, but it's cute.
All "celebrities" are tweeting about Prop 8 being overturned. Except for the guys in MCR, of course, who "don't support anything."
They're really stuck between a rock and a hard place now. They tried so hard to cultivate a new image that even if they do support the demise of Prop 8 they can't say anything about it because then, they can't break away from their past image. And it's no surprise the dodo brains from MSI would be screeching about it on twitter.
For all you inception fans, I read this and thought it's pure sense:
A paradox is not a conflict within reality. It is a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality should be like.
– Richard Feynman
SPOILER ALERT!!!
Inception is not an original movie. The idea was ripped from the 1984 movie Dreamscape.
There's a spinning top at the end of the movie that wobbles but doesn't fall.
It's a ripoff right down to the "is it a dream or is it real" ending.
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The film ends with Jane and Alex boarding a train to Louisville, Kentucky (home of Churchill Downs), intent on making their previous dream encounter a reality. Noticing the same Ticket Conductor from the dream gives them a moment of pause."
They're really stuck between a rock and a hard place now.
Not as much as Obama is. If the leader of the free world can wriggle out from between a rock and a hard place so can JU. He's skinnier and JU never said he opposed gay marriage.
During the 2008 campaign, Obama took what many on both sides of the gay marriage debate viewed as a straddle.
He publicly announced his opposition to same-sex marriage,
but he also said that he opposed the California ballot measure seeking to ban it, Prop. 8
Inception is not an original movie. The idea was ripped from the 1984 movie Dreamscape.
That is a ridiculous statement. The concepts are similar; the plots are different.
That's like saying that Apocalypse Then and Full Metal Jacket are the same movie, which they are not.
Also, Dreamscape was made back in 1984. Movie making has changed substantially since then.
Dreamscape deals with concepts of international intrigue. The military, the government and assassination attempts are involved. Other than the idea of people being able to enter other peoples' dreams, I don't see the similarities.
Saying that Inception ripped off Dreamscape is like saying that LeStat ripped off Dracula.
Saying that Inception ripped off Dreamscape is like saying that LeStat ripped off Dracula.
Oh but it's perfectly fine to accuse Gerard of ripping off X-Men with TUA though, right?
Oh but it's perfectly fine to accuse Gerard of ripping off X-Men with TUA though, right?
LOL! Is that what this is about? Someone here likes Inception so you're going to come around and say it's shit just because we don't like Gerard?
Pretzel logic much?
He publicly announced his opposition to same-sex marriage,
but he also said that he opposed the California ballot measure seeking to ban it, Prop. 8
Maybe because it was unconstitutional? You can oppose gay marriage on a moral or religious standpoint but still not be able to find a legal case for banning it.
I see the "Lovelies" are here, from the spoiler-baiting to the Obama hating to the MCR loving.
Mya and Wendy come on out.
The deep south conservatism and "we can't have a black man in the white house" stench reeks of Mya.
I don't think Wendy. That stank is like Armpit and Beer.
SS! How are you, honey? I hardly ever talk to you anymore, do I? I'm so sorry. Seems I've been neglecting all my friends. Just like always, you've probably been really busy; you have that tendency. ;) I miss our evenings of reading by the bay window; our nights of enjoying the stars outside; being silly; being serious. You've always been there for me, baby, and for that I'm so thankful. Hope you're taking care of yourself. Talk to you soon.
It has been my experience that most of the people who want to criticize Inception so much haven't even seen it.
Seriously, it's no big deal if you saw it and didn't like it. Tastes are subjective in everything from music to films, but I don't understand why so many people want to go out of their way to tear the movie down. It's just a movie and yeah, it's kicking everything else's ass at the box office right now, which doesn't necessarily mean it's a great film. It just means it's popular. Same thing applied to Dark Knight, which I hated, but I didn't feel the need to go around telling everybody how crap I thought it was and that they shouldn't like it.
Um...
I don't think SS reads here.
??
Crazy at 7:30
Agreed 8:59. It's someone trying to stir shit by pretending to be someone else.
Who is SS?
Who is SS?
Somebody who tried to pretend to be someone else.
SS is the person everyone believed was Frank Iero.
Ignore 7:30. They are obviously trying to create problems here.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The thing that always got me was that SS would say things that Frank would later say in interviews or write about on S//C.
July 30, 2010 3:01 PM
Anonymous kapunua said...
I never really followed SC that much so I'm not sure about that. I had an account at that page but never really used it. Although didn't he mention the blogs once or something? He might have done.
Ignore the child trolls at 5:04 and 5:28.
You ugly and your mamma dresses you funny will prob be the next words out of their mouth.
Who is SS?
Most likely some geriatric messing around. How could anyone think it was FI?
kapunua said...
If I remember correctly, Sharp was a street or something in a place called Choctaw. Or maybe it was the other way around. I really forgot that the two were connected. :) Anyway, after Mayo wrote Sharp, I did some googling and found out that it was a place. Then I found out it was roundabout where they were supposed to be traveling. That's when I wrote "Choctaw" and they both got it. (Maybe you could still google the two words and see where it was, but I've totally forgotten.)
But in fact, I really am part Choctaw - I just needed an excuse to cast that word out there and see if any fishies bit. :)
July 30, 2010 2:05 PM
What state. I checked google and nothing came up.
How could anyone think it was FI?
Most of them wanted to believe that they touched a star. That a rawkstah was interested in their life. Some even went to LeatherMouth gigs because they believed they connected with Frank / SS.
GW says the band is touring in the fall.
http://community.livejournal.com/chemicalromance/3284702.html#cutid1
That's nice 6:21, but seriously, who cares?
Right, next topic please.
GW says the band is touring in the fall.
Hope he gets to enjoy his love-nest(summerhome) he for bought Lindsey before he heads off on his demanding tour.
I took Kapu's suggestion and googled Sharp + Choctaw. All I got was Mississippi.
Was that around the same time Mayo was pleased and his interests was pralines?
You people are such idiots. Even if Gerard did buy a 'summer home' what makes you think he bought it 'for Lindsey'? Maybe he bought it for himself.
I will probably get a lot of hate for this and I know that this is your place, Verita, but I think that it was best when this blog had a certain purpose and the purpose was for ex-fans of MCR to come here and discuss their hypcrisy, stupidity and have a laugh.
I have the feeling that if we start talking about different things such as movies, other bands, our private life etc. etc. this will soon become like the blog which shall not be named. Especially now that this rotten place is dead and the trolls have nowhere else to go.
Soon, people will cluster and then there will be the group who loves to write poems and the group who fucking hates it, the group who wants to share recipes and the group who gets annoyed by it, the group who believes in God and the group who thinks it's all a big sham.
We've all had it before.
With coming here and solely discussing MCR and topics that had to do with them (feminism, homophobia etc.) we've been a unity with only one purpose. We had our disagreements and some fights but still nobody was able to divide (us) and conquer just like the trolls did on that other place and it was never as bad as on that other place because - and I have to repeat it - we all only had one purpose.
I also know that there isn't always something new to report on but this place doesn't have to have so and so many new comments every day.
And there are so many other places to discuss your favorite movies or bands or whatever else.
But again, this is your place, Verita! You - and only you - decide what this blog is going to be about.
I just thought that I put in my two cents.
veritavenom said...
Listen, I realize that some trolls came over here when Mayo's closed down. But it has NEVER been the intention of this blog to censor thoughts and ideas as long as they don't harass another person.
It is true that this blog was a response to Mayo's originally so there's no need for random anonymous people to come here and say "you're a troll if you talk about Mayo's".
How many times do I have to say it, talk about whatever you want, no one can tell you not to.
The only thing I don't like is people being picked on. But I can't stop you from doing that either.
I don't agree with calling people fat and such. If your opinion is that LynZ is a coat-riding moron that's fine. I actually agree. You sound smarter if you keep it to things that matter.
I refuse to censor anyone who isn't harassing another human being.
Talking about Mayo's is fair game.
Siobhan proves herself to be the most sensible and logical of all again.
You people are such idiots. Even if Gerard did buy a 'summer home' what makes you think he bought it 'for Lindsey'? Maybe he bought it for himself.
Maybe he bought it for his lovvah.
What? His loofah ?
What do we do about the BN and LJ trolls? Who the fuck brought them here?
I actually agree with Siobhan. Mayo and SS are dull topics that have been discussed enough at the other blog.
His loofah lovvah.
Is that your idea of a "fix" Siobhan?
I get that you believe in censorship, but I think that was the cause of most of the trouble at Mayo's. If people hadn't tried to tell others what they could and could not post, Mayo's would probably still be going.
You people are such idiots. Even if Gerard did buy a 'summer home' what makes you think he bought it 'for Lindsey'? Maybe he bought it for himself.
According to LJ he surprised her with the house on her birthday.
"
And there are so many other places to discuss your favorite movies or bands or whatever else."
^THIS
and past delusions of importance
LJ is such a reliable source. Any word on the new drummer.
Cut it out 7:30.
His loofah lovvah.
The only lovvah he has is Lindsey. Maybe she also has a thing for loofahs.
How many times do I have to say it, talk about whatever you want, no one can tell you not to.
Lindsey loofahs all the right places on GW.
Cut what out and why?
I don't mind what anyone talks about. I just don't want the power struggles that happened at that other place to happen here. And to but my 2c worth in, I find Mayo & SS boring topics, but you tolerate it.
According to LJ he surprised her with the house on her birthday.
Did it come with a pet rhinoceros or something?
"According to LJ he surprised her with the house on her birthday."
Where on LJ? Source, please.
Do you believe everything you read on lj? Cuz I've read some pretty wild tales about Bert and Gerard...and Mikey and Pete Wentz...and Frank and Jepha....
Siobhan I respect your opinion and would never try to censor you and tell you not to express it.
But you're wrong about this place becoming like Mayo's.
For one, this place has a whole different sort of people. We're not a bunch of sad middle aged layabouts with nothing to do but wish rock stars would spare us a word.
TWO, the trouble at Mayo's NEVER came from people talking about various subjects. The trouble started when Mayo (who the "Lovelies" believed was Gerard Way) started answering a few people. The "Lovelies" hated the fact that THEIR rock star was talking to people and enjoying them..... Especially when all the "Lovelies" were doing was defending him. And the ones Mayo almost always answered were the ones who challenged MCR. They couldn't grasp it.
It wasn't poetry or other topics that made Mayo's degenerate into a hate fest.
It was jealousy plain and simple.
Because we here have no delusions about our host, that simply can't happen here.
This blog has been up and drama free (except for trolls) for years. And people here have always talked about other stuff. Why would it all of a sudden turn into Mayo's?
Is that your idea of a "fix" Siobhan?
I get that you believe in censorship, but I think that was the cause of most of the trouble at Mayo's. If people hadn't tried to tell others what they could and could not post, Mayo's would probably still be going.
I don't know what my comment has to do with censorship. If you want to talk about Mayo and what went on there and who believed Mayo to be Gerard and SHITsubou SHITa to be Frank then why don't you create your own blog to talk about only this?
I just meant that this blog had the purpose to talk about MCR and things related to that band. It didn't need censorship because that was what people wanted to talk about here. That's why they came here. That was the purpose of this blog.
There are so many other places to talk about Kings of Leon and the movie Inception.
Why not let this place be the place it was from the beginning? Isn't there somewhere else to go when you are done with talking about MCR?
I, for one, have plenty.
And just like I said; it is not my place to tell Verita or anyone here what to do but it was just an opinion.
I'm very sure that this is going to be like Mayo's in a few weeks or months.
It's just that I really enjoyed coming here but I left Mayo's because of the crap that went down and I guess I will have to leave this place soon too.
I have to admit that I really enjoyed coming here and knowing that I will be able to read comments about the specific topic I am interested in without having to scroll by numerous other comments about topics I don't give a flying fuck about, whether it was The new album of blah-blah-blah is out! or The new movie is good!, No it's bad! or Hey, people, I think I got a fungus on my left foot. What can I do about it? and then realising that only one fucking comment deals with the topic I was visiting the site for; or even none of all of those.
Again, it was just an opinion.
Siobhan I respect your opinion and would never try to censor you and tell you not to express it.
But you're wrong about this place becoming like Mayo's.
For one, this place has a whole different sort of people. We're not a bunch of sad middle aged layabouts with nothing to do but wish rock stars would spare us a word.
TWO, the trouble at Mayo's NEVER came from people talking about various subjects. The trouble started when Mayo (who the "Lovelies" believed was Gerard Way) started answering a few people. The "Lovelies" hated the fact that THEIR rock star was talking to people and enjoying them..... Especially when all the "Lovelies" were doing was defending him. And the ones Mayo almost always answered were the ones who challenged MCR. They couldn't grasp it.
It wasn't poetry or other topics that made Mayo's degenerate into a hate fest.
It was jealousy plain and simple.
Because we here have no delusions about our host, that simply can't happen here.
This blog has been up and drama free (except for trolls) for years. And people here have always talked about other stuff. Why would it all of a sudden turn into Mayo's?
You are exactly sounding like one of those trolls who made Mayo what it is now and since you don't seem to be someone of the 'Lovelies' since according to you it was all their fault, should I assume now that you are one of the 'Porchies'?
See, and so it starts.
You are exactly sounding like one of those trolls who made Mayo what it is now and since you don't seem to be someone of the 'Lovelies' since according to you it was all their fault, should I assume now that you are one of the 'Porchies'?
See, and so it starts.
^THIS
Siobhan was there. She knows what went down. She knows there was no innocent side.
It was jealousy plain and simple.
Judging by comments here it still is about jealousy.
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