Recently we've had some trouble with a troll from a certain other blog, and people have been asking me to disable anon comments or install a tracker. I haven't even had a tracker or disabled anons. Anons are an important part of this blog because not everyone wants to use a name. And I try to respect everyone's privacy so I really don't want to use a tracker.
I think we need to ignore trolls from that blog. We have faced worse trolls before, from BN and other places such as that. Places like that are mostly the same, BN, 4Chan, that other blog, and they churn out mostly the same kind of people. When you ignore them they go away.
The "I think you're bothering someone I know" ploy is lame and probably false. If their blog is having a problem, then it's not our fault or our problem. That place has always been a train-wreck, all of a sudden someone wants to blame it on the folks here.
"I WILL DISRUPT YOU!!!!!1111111111trolltroll"
OH NO! Disrupt us, really? You're going to come in here and say mean things to people? Oh no please don't, whatever will we do.
Ignore it and it will go away. And if it doesn't go away - ignore it anyway. :)
We've had worse trolls than this one so hang in there guys. :)
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1697 Newer› Newest»I think he probably would like for people to think he is, and I think he goes out of his way to try and appear smart sometimes.
Really? I would have thought that's exactly what he has been trying not appear. Especially with his close friendship with that stunning group of lame brains MSI.
Being able to talk about politics and current affairs does not necessarily equate intellect.
Uh, I'm not one to leap to defend the guy. But just because he doesn't speak out about politics or current events, it doesn't prove he isn't intelligent enough to be aware of these things and form an opinion of them. And if he did speak out, wouldn't someone just say he was trying to be Billie Joe, again? I think it's better if he keeps his mouth shut on those issues. I think he behaves like an ass now, and has for some time, but I don't think he's stupid.
Ah, sorry 4:33. I was still on the previous page. I agree, basically.
It seems to me there's something else going on, too. In a larger sense, "cunt" should equal "dick" in our culture because "woman" should be equal to "man." Why is it not? This is also why "nigger" remains more offensive than "cracker." And as long as women are the second sex and African-Americans are the second race, slurs that target these groups will have greater power. Some will surely say that our growing acceptance of the term, in its pejorative sense, is just another sign that feminism, too exhausted to fight the rising tide of anti-woman hate speech, is dead. But I am willing to entertain the idea that the proliferation of the C word, on the pages of British publications (and on American premium cable), may also be a side effect of greater gender equity. I, for one, look forward to the day when I can use both "cunt" and "dick" with impunity. And that's not just because I'm a "bitch."
Slurs will always be slurs regardless of the intellectualized drivel each one of these third wavers seek to attach to these words and their connotations in order to disarm their ability to degrade.
There is also a cognitive signature with each of these words, as words translate into thoughts and thoughts translate into attitudes which usually is the hardest thing to change.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kapunua don't forget you were once a part of that place. Almost everyday for a couple of years. You were also very fond of Mayo and you still are. Why do you still lurk that cesspit?
I don't. I was answering an anon who came to my LJ. Bother you?
Why do people think Gerard is smart? IMO the man has never said or done anything to make me believe he's not a moron.
So...can somebody explain it to me?
i guess talking about feminism and saving lives made him seem, at the very least, enlightened.
I don't really understand where he got the rep for being intelligent either. He wrote a few lyrics (probably with help) about robbing liquor stores and dying in a hail of bullets, coming back from the dead to avenge his death, getting raped in prison, etc., which seemed to me to be standard comic book nerd fantasy material. Then he wrote some maudlin shit about dying from cancer. None of it is particularly profound nor intelligent.
His comics can be read in about 5 minutes flat, and seem to me to have been written for kids (or someone with the mentality of a ten year old). If not for the artwork and his name on the cover, I doubt they would have been noticed at all.
He's made notoriously bad choices in his personal relationships and he's managed to turn a considerable amount of his fanbase against him by behaving like a complete idiot.
None of this is exactly screaming out INTELLIGENCE to me.
i think hes smart but if someone makes enough stupid choices the only option left is to think about them or ignore them.
in short i believe on gw stopped thinking project rev and i doubt he has any attention of picking it back up again.
of course should he ever decide to start thinking again i doubt him and the zoid will last long.
brains need brains and i suspect thats why he chose her.
he was just downright tired of thinking. period.
Huh, never really thought about it that way, but yeah. You hear about supposedly smart people doing that all the time don't you?
I think he was smart, he was at the very least well-read.
As for his comic, did anyone else notice how much better vol one was than too?
Definite signs of mental regression, as influenced by his dumb wife.
i will never forget that terrible kennedy shot.
he never would have done something that stupid before her.
I think Gerard Way's biggest mistake was assuming Lindsey was smart...
i think gerard is one of those people that just assumes everyone is smarter than they are because he so desperately wants actual smart people to like him.
I think he can kiss that thought goodbye! The best he can get it Neil Gaiman after Palmer dumbed him down!!
I think he was smart, he was at the very least well-read.
Lol. Yeah, he said his favorite book was Catcher in the Rye. Him and every other emo guy on the planet.
I bet it's the only novel he ever finished reading.
probably had it as required reading in high school like a lot of other kids. or he heard it was billie joe's favorite.
I think Gerard Way's biggest mistake was assuming Lindsey was smart...
I don't think he assumed anything. That's who he wanted.
I think it was established a long time ago that Gerard likes stupid girls.
Like attracts like.
Perhaps. The main thing is that they're happy together. That's all that matters.
Lol. Yeah, he said his favorite book was Catcher in the Rye.
Did he really? How cliché of him.
But then, the only other book I've ever heard him reference was Heart Shaped Box by Joe Hill, which doesn't count because MCR is mentioned in it.
His lyrics don't ever reference anything literary (unless you want to count Watchmen or Sandman), so I guess it doesn't surprise me that he's not much of a reader.
I think the reason some people think he's "well-read" is because they confuse fanfiction Gerard (who reads Shakespeare and Proust and meanders through art museums in his spare time) with smoking, F-word dropping, bad grammar ("me and Mikey went to a Smashing Pumpkins show and I got mistook for Billy Corgan") Gerard.
Anybody who would use such horrible grammar in a televised interview comes off as damn stupid to me.
i think it was probably scary for gerard to be perceived as an intelligent cultured guy when he's just a relatively low-class comic book geek from jersey.
maybe he got tired of trying to live that lie. i applaud him for having the guts to let people see him for what he really is.
My fave: "Me and Mikey's grandma..."
Anonymous Anonymous said...
My fave: "Me and Mikey's grandma..."
May 19, 2010 10:50 AM
Ikr? Every time he says things like that in an interview I cringe.
http://twitpic.com/1o1sg2
its kinda creeepy in my opionion
I'm envious of Lindsey's ability to carry off that blue-black hair color so well. Not many people can.
Wow, look at Lindsey's arm. Does she lift weights? I wouldn't want to have to arm-wrestle with her.
I think Lindsey had mom arms. She'll probably get mom back too. It happens when you have to lift and carry a toddler around all the time.
I'm a tiny woman, but after my daughter was born my back became v-shaped and I had some killer biceps.
Kasu,
Please be honest. You've been reading here and other sites a lot longer, yes?
Actually, no. Before I found this I was another girl blindly looking up to MCR and Gerard. Now I'm not. I still love them, but I don't think of them as role models anymore. I had NEVER heard of this site before.
Also, I think Gerard is, well, not necessarily well-read intelligent, but I think he's smart. The kind of person who annoys the hell out of me by having a lot of intelligence and completely squandering it. And yeah, TUA1 was much better than TUA2, and I actually picked it up before knowing who MCR was. Good art. Also, it is SO CLICHÉ that his favorite book is Catcher in the Rye. I don't like that book. Simple.
I think that if real Gerard was even REMOTELY more like fanfiction Gerard (I'm not afraid to admit that I read and write real person slash fanfiction), he would be a MUCH MUCH better person.
Also, using bad grammar while speaking doesn't mean you're not intelligent. I say "me and" or "for reals" a lot, but I am fully capable of composing, speaking, and writing serious works.
Glad to be back!
~Kasu
I'm kind of ashamed to admit that I used to write fanfic way, way back. Nearly everyone on lj back in the day either wrote it or read it. I wrote Bert/Gerard and my Gerard was so out of character it was ridiculous.
I don't claim it anymore and neither do most of the people I was friends with. One of my very best friends who was one of the best writers ever is so humiliated by her fic writing that she deleted her lj. It's a shame because her fic was so good.
I'm 14. I'm a good writer, a good characterizer, and enjoy coming up with romantic scenarios. What's wrong with fanfiction? If you're not implying there's something wrong with it, nevermind. But if so, just keep in mind that it's a fun pastime, and real people are just personas rather than characters to use. I've not been into MCR fics much anyways recently; more P!ATD stuff.
~Kasu
I think most people just outgrow real person fanfic. They write it when they are very young and then feel differently about it as they get older.
I used to read some Bert and Gerard fanfic, anon. What did you write? Most people always wrote Gerard as a victim and Bert as as crazed drug addict/abusive boyfriend type person. Only a very few people ever made B/G believable to me. I haven't been on an MCR fic site in ages though. Do people still write it now that the guys are all married?
i used to be really into mcr fanfic too. i agree with the growing out of it part. it was around when i started seeing who mcr really were, that i realized reading and writing untrue, sexual stories about real people was rather creepy. even if the characters' personalities are nothing like their actual selves. at least in my opinion.
I know fanfic in general, especially RPF/RPS, is usually just a phase. But right now, I'm in that phase. And having one standard characterization is part of what makes it not so great: people are people, real and 3D, so everyone has different aspects to them.
And yes, we still read them even though they're married. I read a few Frerard this morning.
~Kasu
I used to read some Bert and Gerard fanfic, anon. What did you write?
Oh I was never very good. I was very young. You probably wouldn't have read any of my fic. My fics used to get ignored in favor of the few BNFs in that fandom.
I agree about the characterizations of Bert. Most people messed them up. There were a few fics that made Bert seem real but most made him seem like a caricature. I think that's what happens when you have a bunch of 13-16 year old girls writing about people they only know from their stage personas.
wow... that photo is REALLLLLY photoshopped...
seriously. they touched up their faces so much it looks like they had too cut them out and then paste them back in despite the fact that they are now a COMPLETELY different color and texture from the background!
i thought these girls were supposed to be artists...
Oh! So that's why their hair is so shinny!
They claim it's not been shopped at all, but it does look weird. The proportions of the cars in the background look weird too -- like it's a fake backdrop or something.
Idk, I hate to say they're just outright lying. Maybe it is the flash and a filter or something?
a flash that only works on their heads??
It's on the hair, and not the shoulder. They're lying.
also you can tell that the zoid had a lot more work done than jess.
Well, all of Gerard's photos get shopped to hell and back, so why not Lindsey's?
http://twitpic.com/1o1sg2
Not the best photo. I'm a photographer.
I don't think it's photoshopped. That's what a photo on a digital camera looks like in daylight when somebody uses a flash also. The person who took the photo didn't know how to use the camera and did not turn the flash off.
It doesn't look like either have had surgery wouldn't they look better then that if they had?
not buying it. this thing was definitely touched up and only an idiot would bother denying it when its shinier than most of your hubbys "modeling" shots...
i meant touch up work not plastic surgery.
No, she just globs on more makeup than a clown for that!
I don't really care either way but I am pretty sure it's not photoshop just flash plus daylight.
i probably would too if i smoked like a chimney and had no self respect...
Am I blind? Doesn't look like either has tons of make up on????
Every time I look at LynZ my self-image improves 3 points! :)
If she can bag a rock star with no brain, no looks, and no personality, I really can be anything I want when I grow up!
I think no matter what Lindsey does somebody here will find fault with it. I don't really see anything wrong with the photo but that's my opinion.
6:44 I am not a LynZ fan but that was an idiotic statement. grow up.
some day some brainy attractive girl with a sparkling personality is gonna flash gerard her crotch and the zoid will fade away forever.
one great step for feminism or just the saddest thing youve ever heard??
Oh come on! No one smart would ever show Geetard their crotch! ;)
yeah and i don't think gerard would go for a smart girl. he needs to have a partner he's superior to in that area.
it looks blown out not photoshopped.
I think they are both semi-attractive.
um maybe it just has something to do with the photoshopping but what the fuck is on her back??
Leaning on a sign or a car door?
Yeah, I mean it's an ok photo but I don't see that they are wearing gobs of clown makeup? Either of them?
Nah, for sure not photoshop just lame.
At first I thought it was supposed to be the door of that car she's standing in front of. It looks like something made of metal.
I don't know, unless she's carrying a laptop on her back?
Too big for a laptop. Maybe it's a portfolio?
It still looks weird.
Whatever the reason, it looks like Lindsey and Jessicka have been superimposed on that background, which makes them both look weird.
Jessicka's hair and skin look relatively natural but Lindsey looks like she's just been made up for a Halloween party.
weird
Who cares? It's a damn picture. Jeez.
http://www.fotolog.com.br/rosesxtoxsmile/42198915
looks the same
you see the red in the eyes? if you have a flash like that theres always red unless you take it out.
they messed with it and trying to lie about it only makes them look like idiots.
I don't think either Jessicka or Lindsey have too much makeup on. I wear a lot more then that. Esp. after dark.
when you make the photo bigger you can see they aren't super imposed on the background as you can see some wispy hair and that is really hard to do. You can also see fine lines on their faces.
red eye correction isn't photoshop it's on every simple digital camera program.
I think talking about this makes us all idiots. Next subject.
You don't get red eye when you take a photo with a flash in direct sunlight.
When direct sunlight causes contrast to exceed your camera's latitude, consider using a fill flash. Beyond their normal illumination duties, flashes can compliment existing light.
You don't get red eye with a fill flash in sunlight.
pupils are too small because of the sunlight for any red eye.
plastic surgery
the funny thing is all they had to do was touch up the background as well and no one would have noticed...
It was so thoughtful of Gerard to throw an early birthday party for his beloved Lyn-Z.
Are most fourteen year old girls as opinionated as Gazoo?
Yeah, they are... But you don't wanna HEAR what they think... And what's with my nickname?
~Kasu
some day some brainy attractive girl with a sparkling personality is gonna flash gerard her crotch and the zoid will fade away forever.
Ain't gonna happen in a thousand years. Brainy attractive girls with sparkling personalities do not go around flashing their lady bits to just anyone.
It really doesn't look photoshopped.
LOL! Everybody will hate, no matter what Lindsey does even pose in a photo.
I think they are both pretty. (on the outside)
nothing really wrong with either photo
LOL! Everybody will hate, no matter what Lindsey does even pose in a photo.
No, not everybody. Besides, most of the comments were just about the quality of the photo in general. Since when does that equal hate?
Hyperbole from the Peanut Gallery, as per usual.
I don't see where this photo has been altered?
I don't think the photo has been altered. It just looks strange because the lighting on Lindsey's and Jessicka's faces is much brighter than the lighting on the background.
Using a flash outdoors will make a person's face look brighter. It camoflages flaws and makes their hair look shinier. Also, the white stage-type makeup looks odd with the flash and outdoor lighting combined, making Lindsey look different from Jessicka.
People notice these things and think they look odd. But it doesn't mean the photo has been tampered with.
*camouflages
um why on earth would gerard throw lindsey an early birthday?
Cause he is busy making jams.(In other words, he had to redo all of that shit they did earlier so that they could make some new shit)
you're talking about a guy who hires monkeys for his wife, and buys houses for her on valentine's day. he could be celebrating her bd for the whole week.
Yeah, my husband was big with the romantic gesture before the baby came too. Now I'm lucky if he even remembers my birthday.
http://twitter.com/gerardway/favorites
"I envy @lynzway! :("
"http://twitpic.com/1f5qgv - @gerardway >> u look delicious!"
He sure has some odd tweets favorited...
I bet he doesn't know his favorites are public. Moron.
Lol! He has two tweets from people saying that they envy Lindsey. I suppose because she's married to him?
Narcissistic much?
I don't envy Lindsey. He's too much in love with himself to truly care about anyone else.
the funny thing is that he favorited that the day he told her happy weekend...
"aw? you having a bad day babe? tell you what let me remind you of your most attractive feature... ME!!!"
what an asshole...
No wonder she never tweeted him back.
can someone post a link to the pic?? i can't get it
http://www.fotolog.com.br/rosesxtoxsmile/42198915
not photoshopped
http://twitpic.com/1o1sg2
Not the best photo. I'm a photographer.
I don't think it's photoshopped. That's what a photo on a digital camera looks like in daylight when somebody uses a flash also. The person who took the photo didn't know how to use the camera and did not turn the flash off.
Lindsey looks rough in that other picture.
Didn't Gerard say that he's a jacket fetishist and that he's collecting jackets or is always buying new ones? That filthy jeans jacket with those incredibly embarrassing pins really starts to bother me.
I'm wondering if they are already looking for someone to permanently replace Bob the Flop or if they don't even bother to look for a new drummer because they know that this will be their last album? What do you think?
http://twitter.com/gerardway/status/3506727892 Obviously Lindsey had something to do with them. Unless I misread that, since I don't know whether he's saying she recommended the jackets, or the tuxes.
And I think they're just going to wait around until someone volunteers...which might be quite a while. It seems as if MCR are totally clueless about what they're going to do next with the album.
i miss when gerard did things for himself but that was ages ago back when mcr was still young and full of promise.
Gerard must have had those Canadian tuxes to impress his Canadian girlfriend.
i miss when gerard did things for himself but that was ages ago back when mcr was still young and full of promise.
I miss those days more than you can imagine. And I only got into MCR this past summer.
~Kasu
Why he insists on wearing his wife's pins is a mystery. I guess he's just totally mesmerized by her.
I think he does it because he enjoys hurting his fanbase, has ever since the Eliza days.
"You can't have me, you'll never have me... nananananah!!"
Hense the favoriting of some random girl's jealousy...
I think he does it because he enjoys hurting his fanbase, has ever since the Eliza days.
"You can't have me, you'll never have me... nananananah!!"
Hense the favoriting of some random girl's jealousy...
I totally agree with this. Gerard seems to me to be a man who has serious issues with women, and he takes it out on the little girls who worship him.
Remember the "What? You want to fuck me? Sorry, that seat's taken," right after his engagement to Eliza?
That was such an asshole thing to say.
He probably only pretends to worship Lindsey in public. In private, I'd be willing to bet that he treats her like shit - same as he did Eliza.
Remember the "What? You want to fuck me? Sorry, that seat's taken," right after his engagement to Eliza?
Lol, he was just pissed off because the people yelling that they wanted to fuck him were teenage girls and not "straight" guys.
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I think you crossed a line there...
Gerard said a loads of stupid things in public. LynZ said a lot of stupid things too and did lots of stupid things including getting that chicken on her arm. They are both dummies.
It's also a pity her young sister in law who needs to seriously emotionally mature herself, thought getting all those tats are a good idea.
were some comments deleted? last time i was here the count was at 1310
All then i love Gee! comments were deleted.
on the road again
i can't wait to get on the road again
twang, twang, twang, twang, twang
on a tour bus with a bunch of hardcore friends
and i can't wait to get on the road again
oops wrong blog! hehe
Does it seem to anybody else that MCR is just plain old over? At this point it doesn't feel to me like they're really ever going to get a new record out. They keep saying soon, soon, but at the beginning of the year everybody thought they were just mixing it.
I was still a fan of the music even though I was kind of sick of Gerard and Frank's attitudes, but now I'm sick of listening to the same old songs over and over. By the time they get a new record out, if they ever do get a new record out, it's looking like I'm not even going to give a damn.
on the road again
i can't wait to get on the road again
Yeah, wrong blog for sure because at this rate, the asshats from MCR are never going to tour again.
i agree their over, however Hot Topic just started selling a new braclet for them... it says "i don't believe in anything MCR"
I think the bracelets at Hot Topic say "I don't support anything" and then they say "MCR".
I'm sure they were licensed by MCR or they wouldn't have their name on them.
So...
This band is now encouraging kids to become apathetic and uninvolved. Like we don't already have a problem with that now.
Way to go, MCR. You cash in on that disenfranchised youth market.
I just don't know how you manage to sleep at night.
I just looked up those bracelets on Hot Topic's website and they do indeed exist.
As a parent, I don't know if I can even express how angry this makes me.
My daughter registered to vote as soon as she turned 18. She could not wait to exercise her right to vote and get involved.
She doesn't listen to MCR anymore, thank God, or she would be livid. How dare they encourage kids to not get involved?
THIS so hard. This is exactly what I say. I still love their music, but I don't love the way Gerard (and to a lesser extent Frank) are NOW. And those "I don't support anything" (that's the exact quote) bracelets are atrocious. I thought MCR was supposed to be about feminism and self-rights? [/sarcasm] (Then again, can we expect any more from someone who, as cliché as it is, has their favorite book as The Catcher In The Rye?) I wish they were the old them.
~Kasu
Apparently MCR has adopted MSI's "anti-message" band motto.
Well fuck them. They never stood for anything. They need to crawl back under that dirty rock in Jersey from whence they came.
They used to be great. Now they're not. If they hadn't gotten "in" with MSI, they'd be better.
~Kasu
I thought MCR was supposed to be about feminism and self-rights?
Thats when they needed their fans "support" so they could sell their records and buy tickets for their concerts and buy all their shitty merch. I can't believe that they honestly think that their talent alone has gotten them this far. I think alot of people really thought them to be humble and believe in things about rights and feminism.
The item, a large rubber bracelet, reads: "MCR I don't support anything" in the band's new, block font. The ironic message has stirred mixed reviews from fans, but guitarist Frank Iero reassured curious fans that it was all the band's idea.
cuz they're so ironic and witty like that.
I think the bracelets at Hot Topic say "I don't support anything" and then they say "MCR".
The next bracelet should say "I follow back-bending morons" -- MCR.
The item, a large rubber bracelet, reads: "MCR I don't support anything" in the band's new, block font. The ironic message has stirred mixed reviews from fans, but guitarist Frank Iero reassured curious fans that it was all the band's idea.
Gotta hand it to the band: they're all as sharp as bowling balls lately.
Thats when they needed their fans "support" so they could sell their records and buy tickets for their concerts and buy all their shitty merch. I can't believe that they honestly think that their talent alone has gotten them this far. I think alot of people really thought them to be humble and believe in things about rights and feminism.
I know I did. That's a major reason why they're one of my favorite bands, as opposed to just a band that I like. They're messages pushed them from like to love.
~Kasu
So they want to be hardcore and punk and yet they still sell their shit at Hot Topic? hahahahahahaha
"So they want to be hardcore and punk and yet they still sell their shit at Hot Topic? hahahahahahaha"
THIS.
Has anyone ever seen this video? I came across it and i think it is to funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGERhFH14c&feature=related
Well that's the first time I have actually seen this clip Lynn.
Glad I missed it the first time round.
And oh yeah, they're just ooozing punk :)
Hey all, you have every right to tell me to get lost if you wish, but I have recieved worthwhile advice and great comfort from you ladies here before, especially those more mature and with their own wealth of life experiences.
I'm an anon who has frequented here before and a couple of months ago shared my story, about how my best friend and I fell for each other while he had a gf and how he promised he would end it as it was me he always wanted. It's been a year now, and he is still leading me on and yet at the same time treating me terribly. I've never had a bf before (I am in my twenties though) and he has taken things which are very dear to me. I know I am not entireyl innocent, just naive and I wanted this to work out.
I have no doubt that he did and possibly still does love me, but his actions are despicable and cowardly. He recently promised me he would end things this past Sunday, but still no word.
I am thinking of telling his gf, or to get someone to tell her. It has reached the point where I can see no other resolution to this, no closure when it is desperately needed. You may simply say walk away, and it sounds petty but it kills me to know he has suffered no repurcusions, like I meant nothing, when my heart was broken. I also think she has the right to know...
I guess my question is this, friends...I know it's impossible for you to know the whole situation, but...do you think it's the right thing to do?
I think you should tell her. Not to 'get back at him' although that may be your main motivation, but because this girl deserves to know the type of man she is involved with.
Men who do this sort of thing do it in serial fashion. I know. I was married to one of them.
You're probably not the first bit he's had on the side and you probably won't be the last. I know that probably hurts, but think of what it would be like to be the gf/wife and have this man cheat on your over and over during the course of a lifetime.
Tell her but do it nicely. She's going to be devastated, but she needs to know.
Thankyou 6:41 for taking the time to respond. :)
My main motivation is partly so he doesn't get away with it, true, but I guess that ties in with I don't think it's fair for him to be treated like nothing ever happened. I think I would want to know, were it done for me...
I have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, I believe I am the first person he has done this with, as shown by his immature way of handling it- make empty promises and then ignore it when they are questioned or are due to be collected. Also, he is awful at hiding it. His gf already has suspicions and there are those who also know what is going on.
I'm so sorry for your own situation, I appreciate it must be difficult to see my the 'other woman' side. I assure, a year ago I thought I would be the LAST person to ever get mixed up in something like this. My naivety is not an excuse, but it is sadly the only reason I can offer. True love and fidelity are important to me, that's why this cuts me to the core.
I know I have to tell her...I just don't know if it is best coming from me. As much as I hate myself for saying it, I don't want to lose him completly.
If you or a friend tells her that is something you must be prepared for. He may refuse to have anything to do with you again. If he is hurting you that much, it's probably for the best.
Thankyou, I think deep down I know what you are saying is true. However, I think by his very nature he would always come crawling back. It's the same reason he can't dump her- he avoids confrontation at all costs.
We have fallen out many times over this and I have said some terrible things- he even once 'ended it' but things have always gotten back on track.
I think if someone else told him it wouldn't be nearly as bad- he said we would still be friends if someone else told her when he found out others knew. He also said if she dumped him then he would be with me. Which, tbh, does make me feel like shit cos his gf is not a nice person- drugs, loose morals and sexuality (not that it makes it right).
Besides the point, after all he has put me through I'm not sure I'd even want him now anyway.
I don't know if doing what you propose will give you the type of closure you need. Maybe you need to get completely away from him and find someone who can really commit themselves to you.
It's getting completly away from him that poses the problem- I work with him, we have mutual friends and despite everything, I am still in love with him. As stupid as I'm sure it must also sound, I don't want all this to have been for nothing, I gave so much of myself to him. I don't think I will ever be able to walk away without knowing one way or the other the outcome of this...
Anon 5:59 I don't claim to be an expert on relationships but what I do know is that it has to be based on mutual respect. From what I can see your boyfriend has no respect for his girlfriend, for you or for himself.
I know you're hurting but from what I can read I think you've already made the decision to end the relationship, it's just finding the courage to walk away.
I personally would much rather be on my own than be someone's 'bit on the side'.
Whatever you decide I do wish you well.
Take care.
Just noticed that Zoid didn't even Twitter any thanks for birthday messages. Numbskull!
Thankyou for your kind words 10:38. I think at the very least I have decided it can't go on this way anymore, what with studies being over and the whole summer stretched out and no concievable time together. It has taken me a long time to reach this breaking point, yet a part of me is still nervous.
Your observation is spookily accurate too: he is the type of person who is too scared to upset the balance- to the detriment of everyone's happiness, including his own, though I know he is suffering the least, despite his protests otherwise. He needs to find some self respect as I am trying to- or at the very least, grow a pair.
To the anon ^ with the relationship problems. My advice is to end the relationship now. If you are sure you want his girlfriend to know he is a cheat, then let her know after you have finished with him. If you are still with him when she finds out, then he will come running to you, and that is no way forwards.
I know it is very hard, but get out now. If you can be friends in the future then all well, but the relationship he has had with you may make that impossible. I know you say you work with him, and have mutual friends, but it is possible to sever some ties. I know changing jobs is a massive thing to do, but not impossible. True friends will always try to be there for you both in the future. I know I have when mutual friends of mine have split. I'm not saying it is easy, but you have your whole life infront of you, and you absolutely deserve better.
Good luck.
Lynn, that video is so funny. I've never seen that one before.
I found another one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nJ3YCQneGo&feature=related
LOL! I saved the best for last!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdKSiUpnbiw
Thankyou for the support 1:00 :)
I hate to say it but I think a part of me is banking on him coming running to me, even if I haven't fully decided what I would do in that situation yet. :/
I think he knows my patience is wearing thin anyway, he promised me he would end it 2 days ago and I told him if he let me down I wouldn't stand for it again. And since then I've heard nothing...
That sucks. Are you sure he's worth all the trouble and deception?
~Kasu
PS - I hope this doesn't sound mean...
For the anon with the cheating scum bucket, I know this is hard but end it now. Don't bother telling his gf or really anything else to do with him. Just walk away for your own sake because as long as you are wasting yourself on him, you aren't open to any new relationship which could be so much better. I know you can't see that right now but I speak from experience.
I once got involved with a friend in much the same way as you describe. In my case, we had dated briefly before I went away to college and I hadn't even been there five minutes before I got the Dear Jane letter that he had met someone else and he was engaged. I took it in my stride as we hadn't really been together long and I didn't want to lose the friendship we had before. We remained on good terms, he got married and all seemed well until I got back home. He told me he had made a mistake and he really wanted me. I fell for it all, I'm ashamed to say and let him put me through hell for the next 2 years. He kept promising to end it but he never did until she threw him out over something else. He came running to me of course and you know what? I realised I didn't want him anymore. I couldn't trust him because let's face it, if he cheated on her, how long would it be before he did the same to me? I sent him home to his wife and I never saw him again.
Not long after that I met a good man and found out what a real relationship is about. It's a partnership, not the one sided deal you get being the other woman.
Slipknot member Paul Gray was found dead today, i don't listen to slipknot but its never nice to see someone, that people look up to, die
Lynz & her lesbian lover are grossssss
Paul Gray was a drug addict!
Thanks Kasu, I fear the answer is no, he really isn't worth it, no one is, but I've come too far to just slip away silently after all he has done...
Thankyou very much to the anon at 7:27 for sharing your own experiences and giving heartfelt advice, I'm truely sorry you had to go through something so awful. I feel like your situation mirrors my own, in fact I can quite easily see this thing going on for another year and him still promising and never doing anything. The thing I don't see happening though, is her kicking him out...
I'm so confused, as I keep hearing contrasting opinions on what to do, even from people in the same situation. I know what I have now isn't anything close to a relationship- that's what I crave. The little things, hell, this guy and I were a milion times closer when we were just friends. Though now I question why he did all those things in the first place, did he ever really want to be my friend?
I just know I need a resolution, and I want it to be on my terms. Just walking away I don't think would cut it for me, not when so many other people already know. I think I'm gonna get someone to tell her tonight when he is in work...
Just sent her a message. Bricking it.
I hate to say it but I think a part of me is banking on him coming running to me, even if I haven't fully decided what I would do in that situation yet. :/
Don't be surprised if he paints you out to be a liar and a lunatic. He'll probably try to put the relationship all off on you or say it only existed in your head.
Guys like this are very adept at that sort of thing.
If you tell her, be prepared to have him lie about you and to have him, her and your co-workers brand you as a home-wrecker or a liar, delusional, etc. Even people who know you might side with him.
After all, it's always the woman's fault...or so our society always seems to think.
Sound advice 8:59, thanks. :) He's already tried that one when she accused him of cheating before. He broke down and cried and said he was upset for me to be losing him. Arrogant much? He has also told her that he told me he can't spend time with me, which, is also a lie. I let him though, cos I figured it would be easier for him to leave her without the whole cheating stigma.
Men, while adept, seem to forget hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I have evidence, I've saved every text/e-mail/letter he's sent me. Co-workers already know as well, he's not very discreet and anyone who knows me well knows I'm not this type of person. This guy was my first everything and he took advantage of my naivety massively.
I'm terrified but I'm ready. I know I have nothing to lose.
"Lynz & her lesbian lover are grossssss"
Go back to Mayo's, troll.
Ditto. We don't want trolls here. This is a venting spot, not a trolling cave.
~Kasu
read it and weep losers:
My Chemical Romance on Facebook
.My Chemical Romance has 1,164,605 fans
well for a multi-platinum band that's not surprising. in fact i would have thought they'd have more. but in any case there are pages for stupid phrases that have twice that amount.
...Erm, I'm a fan on Facebook. Not surprising, though. I'm here because I don't respect them as role models anymore. Not because I dislike their music. I really do like their sound.
~Kasu
Linkin Park has over 5,000,000 fans on Facebook. Green Day and KOL have over 3,000,000. Fall Out Boy has over 2,000,000.
Seems to me like MCR has a ways to go to catch up.
To continue:
I list many bands in my music taste. Among them are MCR, Linkin Park, P!ATD, Fall Out Boy (I think...), Green Day, The Beatles, Boys Like Girls, All Time Low, etc. I don't see what the big deal is with MCR having a bunch (if just over 1 million IS a "bunch") if they have a decent fanbase (decent in size, most definitely NOT in personality). They have devoted fans who don't know "the truth", they have devoted fans who ignore said info, they have devoted haters (and I can't for the love of all the Flying Spaghetti Monster understand why), and they have normal fans. Like me, and my friend. People who know that they're BY FAR not perfect people, but still love their music and, in a weird way, still love them.
I hate to use this phrase, but: MCR changed my life. Maybe even saved. Not that I was cutting or anything; that was my aforementioned friend. But I got into them at exactly the same time I got legitimately into music. Hell, they're the REASON I got really into music and music fandom. They were a large part of my during what I consider to be the time period I started figuring out who I was, so to say. I don't think I'll always love them; obsessions change over time. I'm already out of my blind devotion, as you can tell. But they were are large part of my life, and for that, I still love them.
~Kasu
PS - This was meant to be honest. Rip it apart if you want, I don't care, because it is who I am. Peace!
Good for you Kasu. Never let anybody tell you whose music you should or shouldn't like. Or what you should or shouldn't be grateful for coming into your life when you needed it.
Thanks. I just felt weird putting it here, on this ranty-Mc-rant-rant blog. Would it get worse if I mentioned I like MSI? Not them, their lyrics, or their message. Just their "music" as a whole... :/
~Kasu
PS - You know what's a fun pastime? Reading the old comments over at Mayo's. It's astonishing how many "Gerard promised to love me, and then he used me" girls there are. If not true, which is most likely, then they need a LIFE. If true, rather unlikely, than he's a douche, but I'm ashamed that women could be so taken in. MASSIVE LULZ.
Old comments at Mayo's are fun to read. The people were so convinced that Gerard's marriage was a huge mistake.
Now those same people have follow Lindsey on her twitter and kiss her ass, just like the rest of the MCRmy do.
I've never understood why people care about his marriage. He dropped the facade of caring about fans long before he got with Lindsey.
I don't think caring for the fans was a facade. I think it go swallowed up by one. If you'ev read my old posts on here before, you'll see that I truly believe Gerard is still good. He was just corrupted by fame, because he's weak and self-effacing. I believe in him.
And I, for one, have no respect for Lyn-Z. I don't read her Twitter, I don't keep up to date on her, nothing. The closest I come is listening to MSI's "music".
~Kasu
PS - Did you see "Tink" on Mayo's? LOL the loser!
Tink was nothing compared to BC aka Bleeding Chaos. She swore she and Gerard had a "deep love connection" when she met him. Because of how they stared at each other.
Then she started spreading the rumor that she was a "Chines looking chick" that Gerard was seeing on the side. That even made it onto Rumour Control but BC posted that herself.
Then you have the OPs who have a "special relationship" with Frank. They had Amyranth post that on Rumour Control as well.
They were and are a sad sad bunch.
Maybe you still believe in Gerard, Kasu, but on this site, you're in the minority.
I think most of us think he's just showing his true colors. I refuse to blame his behavior on Lindsey, MSI, fame or any of the other excuses that fans keep giving. He's a big boy. He makes his own choices and he chooses to be an asshole and a douchebag. I don't think a person can change that much. I truly don't think he was ever the person he first claimed to be.
I've been around this fandom for a long time and if I had a dollar for every girl who told me that she and Gerard shared some kind of special connection because of the way they looked at one another when they met, I'd be rich.
One girl said he refused to meet her eyes and turned red when he met her; she said she made him 'nervous' because he was so attracted to her. Another one told me he kept staring at her while he was onstage and she was at the barrier, which of course she saw as him wanting her, which was totally corroborated when his palms were sweaty when he shook her hand. Another told me that he ignored a skinny blonde girl to pay special attention to her at a meet and greet and that there was a 'spark' between them when their eyes met.
Seriously? I think all these girls were delusional. They invented Gerard's attraction to them in their heads.
I think this kind of thing goes on with any rockstar who attracts women. Though God knows why Gerard had that power. To me he's about as sexy as my old teddy bear.
Thanks. I just felt weird putting it here, on this ranty-Mc-rant-rant blog. Would it get worse if I mentioned I like MSI? Not them, their lyrics, or their message. Just their "music" as a whole... :/
What the fuck? Are you actually reading what you're posting here?
You don't see MCR as role models anymore and yet you're still stupid enough to support them? I don't like them anymore but I still like their music. You do know that with supporting them by still buying their music you're helping them to spread their bullshit and influence their female fanbase in a negative way by feeding them their faux feminism? And I'm pretty certain that you're one of the first to run into a cd store to buy their new album because Gee isn't really like that. He's actually a really, really nice guy.
And what the hell do you mean with you like MSI but not the lyrics just the music? How can you listen to their songs without listening to the lyrics? I'm WTF-ing here to no end by reading that nonsense!
PS - You know what's a fun pastime? Reading the old comments over at Mayo's. It's astonishing how many "Gerard promised to love me, and then he used me" girls there are. If not true, which is most likely, then they need a LIFE. If true, rather unlikely, than he's a douche, but I'm ashamed that women could be so taken in. MASSIVE LULZ.
I think that it is not your place to make fun of those people because honestly I don't want to know what Geefart-fantasy-scenarios are going through your mind the whole day long. I bet that would bring the MASSIVE LULZ for us here too.
I still think you're some kind of troll taking us for a ride. You strongly remind me of that nutjob who came here a while ago and asked are you the creator? all the time. She also wanted to tell us what to do and when she realized that it didn't work she started kissing our asses playing all nice. Are you her?
Also, you sound like the typical sexist fan girl. It's not Gerard's fault. He's such a nice guy. He only hides it. But that Lindsey... I HATE HER!!!! It's only her fault that he changed!!!!!!111!!
One thing's for sure: Gerard has as much sex appeal as a worn toothbrush.
Siobhan,
Kasu is entitled to her opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. I don't think she is taking anyone for a ride here.
Siobhan: I'm sorry if I come off like a troll. What I'm trying to say is that I don't look up to them anymore, but I still like their music. And I still hope they do well. As you know, I have faith in them, so I continue to buy their stuff. And yes, I am eagerly awaiting their new album. I think it has the potential to be quite good.
About Lyn-Z. I don't blame her for Gerard. I blame him being dumb enough to CHOOSE to be with her. I think she's made some dumb choices, but so has he.
And how can I listen to music without listening to the lyrics? Same way I listen to screamo: I pay attention to the guitars and let the vocal become a noise.
Fantasies? You know what? Right now, my "Gee fantasy" is that I'd be able to get him to cheer up my friend, and that he'd stop being such a problem person. 'Cause you know what? It's fully possible for a teen to enjoy someone's music and yes, find them attractive without fantasizing about fucking them. I want them to help my friend because she has mood disorder and has attempted suicide before, okay? And she adores them.
Nice to see you back, too, Siobhan. Anyone know where Kapunua is?
~Kasu
PS - If I am a troll, how am I "taking you for a ride"?
PPS - I KNOW I'm in the minority. I think people CAN change that much, and I'm an optimist. Because trust me; I've changed more than him. I used to be a shy loser who'd flip out talking to her friends and didn't know shit about who she was. Now I'm a loud, outspoken, and sometimes bitchy girl who's much more comfortable in her own skin. People can change that much. I've done it.
About Lyn-Z. I don't blame her for Gerard. I blame him being dumb enough to CHOOSE to be with her.
Like Gerard is any better. I think Gerard married his match. I don't see why some people think that he is such a catch and could have married someone better. Maybe he could but i don't think Adam Lambert would give him the time of day.LOL!
I highly doubt Kasu personally buying a cd or listening to previously perchased cds, is the all encompassing source of the faux fem trend. That's a bit of a stretch there, Siobhan. Even for this blog.
I think Gerard married his match.
I agree with this.
Just wondering, what do y'all mean by "match"? Intellectual, personality-wise, problematic, what? And I feel he's a "catch" (sort of) only because I believe in him, as you know. And, no offense, but WTF to the Adam Lambert comment... :/
~Kasu
"One thing's for sure: Gerard has as much sex appeal as a worn toothbrush."
thats an insult to a worn toothbrush
As you know, I have faith in them, so I continue to buy their stuff.
It's the "having faith" thing that I don't get. What's there it have faith in? MCR is not a religion. They're a bunch of not-real-bright guys who make music. I don't get where this "faith" thing comes in.
I agree it's Kasu's choice whether or not she wants to continue to spend her money on these idiots. At the same time I don't think she's terribly bright. After all, this is a girl who thinks that it's okay (and even funny) to punch "losers" and "POS's" in the face.
*should have been
What's there to have faith in
What do you mean when you say you "believe" in Gerard, Kasu? Do you believe in his talent or do you believe that deep down, underneath everything he's a great guy?
I get the feeling that you blame Lindsey for all everything that has gone wrong with MCR, which is kind of ridiculous to me. It's that sort of thinking that gets us all of the "UR JUS JELLUZ" comments from fangirls.
"One thing's for sure: Gerard has as much sex appeal as a worn toothbrush."
thats an insult to a worn toothbrush
I lol'd.
I also agree. :D
anon said:
Linkin Park has over 5,000,000 fans on Facebook. Green Day and KOL have over 3,000,000. Fall Out Boy has over 2,000,000.
***
But MCR still have over a million, and they've been absent from the music scene for over two years now.
When they come back (and they WILL come back and bite your ass) they will knock those other Bands following numbers outa the park for sure.
Imma gonna come here then, y'know, just to point and laugh, laugh and point.
Lol. You really think MCR is going to outdo Green Day and Linkin Park?
I don't have to wait to point and laugh at you. *points and laughs*
Regardless, even if they were to become as big as Lady Gaga right now, it wouldn't change the fact that Gerard and Frank are total douchebags.
Thanks for reminding me that I'm entitled to my opinion, anon 3:13 AM.
I almost forgot.
I highly doubt Kasu personally buying a cd or listening to previously perchased cds, is the all encompassing source of the faux fem trend. That's a bit of a stretch there, Siobhan. Even for this blog.
I don't know what you mean with all encompassing source, anon. I'm sure that you know that I didn't mean that Kasu is single-handedly helping those dumbasses to spread the idiot disease but she's contributing to it along with many other people. I never said anything about listening to their old music but supporting them now with her money although she knows what liars they are.
I'm also quite sure that you witnessed those numerous anon attacks which were proof for how those fangirls are taking MCR's (and now also MSI's) words for their gospel, so I don't think that what I said is a bit of a stretch.
Just wondering, what do y'all mean by "match"? Intellectual, personality-wise, problematic, what?
Answering just for myself, I do think Gerard and Lindsey are an excellent match. They seem to share the same interests and intellect. They seem to choose the same types of people to be friends with and they share the same bad hygiene habits.
I think theirs is a match made in heaven.
When they come back (and they WILL come back and bite your ass) they will knock those other Bands following numbers outa the park for sure.
Imma gonna come here then, y'know, just to point and laugh, laugh and point.
This goes to this troll, and also to the anons here who keep on with the "LOL MCR ISN'T POPULAR ANYMORE" junk.
Who cares? Whether they have a billion followers and fans or two, what difference does it make in how anyone feels about them? Since when is popularity any indication of them sucking or of them selling out? Since when is popularity an indication of anything at all?
Popularity and mediocrity--and outright sucking--often go hand in hand. For those of you going "HAHA LMAO MCR HAS LEIK SOOOOO OMANY FOLLOWERS!!!1111" like an eight year old, I'd like to point out Twilight, Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, and all kinds of other junk that is massively popular.
To those of you laughing because you think that MCR won't have as many followers as other bands - what do you care? Much, much better bands than MCR have fewer followers than those douchebags will ever have.
I guess I don't see what the whole "popularity contest" thing is about.
Thanks for asking after me Kasu; I've just been working a lot, and in clinic at school etc.
It's the "having faith" thing that I don't get. What's there it have faith in? MCR is not a religion. They're a bunch of not-real-bright guys who make music. I don't get where this "faith" thing comes in.
I agree it's Kasu's choice whether or not she wants to continue to spend her money on these idiots. At the same time I don't think she's terribly bright. After all, this is a girl who thinks that it's okay (and even funny) to punch "losers" and "POS's" in the face.
Okay, by faith, as someone said, I believe that they are, inside them, good people who just made some stupid choices. And I don't blame Lyn-Z. I blame the whole "scene" she and Gee got involved it/were involved in. Her personally, I think she's made some bad moves too, but they relate to her band and that's not what I'm discussing here. Also, about the punching, I NEVER SAID that I would punch someone. I never have, and only plan to if they're threatening me or someone I know with physical/bodily harm, etc. I just happen to be one of those people who will laugh if a person I dislike gets punched. Sorry, but true. And I don't think Snooki's a POS, I said that I found her annoying. Thus, dislike, thus, the punch was funny. Did she deserve it? No, but it was funny.
What do you mean when you say you "believe" in Gerard, Kasu? Do you believe in his talent or do you believe that deep down, underneath everything he's a great guy? I get the feeling that you blame Lindsey for all everything that has gone wrong with MCR, which is kind of ridiculous to me. It's that sort of thinking that gets us all of the "UR JUS JELLUZ" comments from fangirls.
As I said above, I mean that I believe that underneath everything he's a good (not great) guy. I also believe in his talent, but I never spoke about that. I think MCR has legitimate talent. And I'm not jealous, nor do I blame Lyn-Z. I think she may have been a bad influence, but what I've been trying to say is that it's HIS stupid choice, not hers, if he gets involved in bad/stupid/dumb/not good activities. He's an adult, he should be able to make his own choices. I just wish he'd make the right ones again.
And will I buy the new MCR album when it comes out? Yes. Will I go see them live? Yes. Having personal issues with them doesn't change the fact that I do love their music, and I have no problems with the others in the band. As for Gerard, I see him through fractured rose-tinted glasses. Some days the cracks spread just a bit farther, and other days I find myself grabbing some Scotch tape and patching them up. They're shattering, but they're semi-stable right now, and yes, they are still there.
Also, I doubt most people actually DELETE their "fan"-ed pages on Facebook. So it's possible some fans don't care about them anymore.
~Kasu
PS - Nice to see you, Kapu! I was just wondering where you went; you were pretty cool to talk to.
PPS - I'm fine with having my opinions challenged. Hell, I enjoy it. But personal attacks? Kinda not cool. Just... stick to intellectual debates?
Thanks Kasu, you too.
I mean, I get what you're saying re: really wishing to believe in something that meant a lot to you. That makes sense, especially when you're young - and I don't mean to be ageist but I do remember that these things meant a lot to me when I was a teen.
I used to be the biggest fan of Alice In Chains. And when everyone else around me could see that Layne Staley was a huge drug addict and was throwing his life away, I continued to want to believe that everything was peachy.
Of course, Staley was never a douchebag or a poseur the way I feel Gerard is now - he was merely self destructive, whereas I think that Gerard and co. are destructive to feminism and civil rights.
But, one does want to believe in something good that lasts.
People are flawed, some more than others. Some flaws are doable. I can live with enjoying some musicians who are vain, stupid, douchey, dorky, even meaningless.
But I hate hypocrites, and I hate hate hate the way MCR took a great big steamer all over feminism and civil and gay rights, all of which are big deals to me. They crossed the moral event horizon with that one.
Also, the things that I found out about Gerard's "talent" really turned me off. Especially his use of autotune. Man, why bother singing if it's all faked? I've heard homeboy sing live. He ain't all that. That's not really being a musician. In that way, he's just like Lindsey, up on stage pretending to do music, but really just standing there and posing while dancing around. Lame.
Yet - I get what you're saying because it's hard to let go, sometimes.
"Popularity" anons, I'm still waiting on an answer to my questions to you all.
Autotune? Really? Never heard that... Also, from what I've heard from the live concert videos, I like his voice. It's actually the kind of tone I like, that pop-punk, kind of raspy-pop-rock voice. I don't know why, but I like that.
And for me, the moral event horizon will be if they DEFINITIVELY show that they have become total douchey poseurs. Until then, I can hope. I can dream. I can accept that they're nor perfect, but then I go on YouTube and find another video that reminds me why I fell in love with him in the first place and — oh shit, I'm crying now. No joke. It means that much to me. As I've said before, I CHOOSE to believe. I want SO DESPERATELY for it to be true. That everything they said meant something. I quoted him in an English paper, for God's sake! Their convictions were THAT STRONG to me! And I can't bring myself to think that they were all false. I've seen their old videos. I've seen who they were. And it seems real to me, seems sincere. I don't think it was an act. I just don't see it.
~Kasu
PS - Kapunua, do you have a LiveJournal? I'd love to talk to you on there!
Oh, and random fact, but Adam Lambert and MCR have met and they got along well. Thought I'd throw that in.
~Kasu
I do have a livejournal. :)
And for me, the moral event horizon will be if they DEFINITIVELY show that they have become total douchey poseurs. Until then, I can hope. I can dream. I can accept that they're nor perfect, but then I go on YouTube and find another video that reminds me why I fell in love with him in the first place and — oh shit, I'm crying now. No joke. It means that much to me. As I've said before, I CHOOSE to believe. I want SO DESPERATELY for it to be true. That everything they said meant something. I quoted him in an English paper, for God's sake! Their convictions were THAT STRONG to me!
Then they are your convictions - not Gerard's.
And Frank already said that their new "We don't support anything" nonsense is legit.
For me, Gerard proved that he didn't mean any of his feminist junk when he made all those little girls simulate orgasm for him, and told them, "I want you to actually f-- yourselves." What kind of testosterone-driven, chest-beating, drunken retarded fratboy behavior is this? Honestly. If a guy said that to me, he'd be walking away with a bloody lip. But Gerard makes these demands of women from a safe distance, high up on a stage, and no one ever challenges him on his idiocy. He makes certain to keep the kind of company that condones this, too.
I'm curious what you quoted in your paper. A while back, like years ago, Gerard said something like, "All you homophobes, sexists and racists, we don't want you here. Break our CDs and go home" or something like that.
In '92, Kurt Cobain said very nearly the exact same thing. He's often quoted as having said, “If you're a sexist, racist, homophobe, or basically an a--hole, don't buy this CD. I don't care if you like me, I hate you.”
The actual quote was a bit more extensive than that, and he said it quite a few times in different ways. When Gerard said it, I realized that he was ripping off Cobain, but I didn't mind him picking up that torch. Someone had to.
But now it seems that he just said it for the same reason he's said and done everything: to be "cool." To sell CDs.
Keep your convictions! Don't depend on some lame rock star to keep them for you. You am what you am. And if people you admire let you down, that's their problem, not yours.
For some reason, I've never had a problem with that onstage "actually f-ck yourselves" quote. I don;t know why, it just never bothered me. The new bracelets? They bother me. A lot.
And my paper was about how and why people are stereotyped based on their music tastes and how said stereotypes have become so ubiquitous. I quoted him on the Hannah Bond incident (which I do think he handled rather well) and on how MCR seems to have become the "boy bands" and "poster children" for girls.
Yeah, that was a ripped-off quote, but I don't have a problem with borrowing quotes. It shows that he knows Kurt Cobain at least, and it's a good way to pass on messages.
And I don't feel strong enough having my own convictions. For someone else that I adored so much, (shit I'm crying again), and looked up to, and also had such great music, to have such strong opinions on these issues - they're part of where I got my opinions on these issues. And they helped shape a LARGE PART of me.
I'm gonna LJ friend you, okay? My username's pretty self-explanatory. PM me!
~Kasu
I can respect the fact that you have your opinion, Kasu, I am just curious as to what it is exactly that keeps your "faith" in Gerard and co. in tact? Leaving out the whole, "I just like the music", what about Gerard makes you believe that he isn't a self-centered, douchebag who could give a fuck about you apart from the money in your pocket?
Also, if you just like MSI's music, but not the atrocious lyrical content, why not just find another band with the same "sound". Then you wouldn't be supporting a band who enjoys degrading every possible life form, including 5 yr old girls.
Also: I want them to help my friend because she has mood disorder and has attempted suicide before, okay? And she adores them.
If this is the case then it isn't MCR your friend needs, its a psychologist and meds. Hanging your emotional stability on a band, that has proven to be unstable themselves, is a recipe for disaster. MCR aren't going to save your friend from any mood disorder or suicidal tendencies.
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