Recently we've had some trouble with a troll from a certain other blog, and people have been asking me to disable anon comments or install a tracker. I haven't even had a tracker or disabled anons. Anons are an important part of this blog because not everyone wants to use a name. And I try to respect everyone's privacy so I really don't want to use a tracker.
I think we need to ignore trolls from that blog. We have faced worse trolls before, from BN and other places such as that. Places like that are mostly the same, BN, 4Chan, that other blog, and they churn out mostly the same kind of people. When you ignore them they go away.
The "I think you're bothering someone I know" ploy is lame and probably false. If their blog is having a problem, then it's not our fault or our problem. That place has always been a train-wreck, all of a sudden someone wants to blame it on the folks here.
"I WILL DISRUPT YOU!!!!!1111111111trolltroll"
OH NO! Disrupt us, really? You're going to come in here and say mean things to people? Oh no please don't, whatever will we do.
Ignore it and it will go away. And if it doesn't go away - ignore it anyway. :)
We've had worse trolls than this one so hang in there guys. :)
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doesn't lynz have like some beef with No Doubt?
I was wondering about that. She apparently blocked Gwen Stefani from twitter because she "felt like it." And a while later she was going on about how she'd win in a fight against Gwen.
i doubt gwen even knows shes alive.
I love Gwen and No Doubt. Lyn-z having any kind of "beef" is hysterical. Gwen doesn't know who she is and wouldn't give a flying fuck if she ever found out.
Definitely. I think a woman like Gwen is used to insecure women hating her, it comes with the territory.
...reaching here, but maybe it's because Gwen's seldomly referred to as "Mrs Gavin Rossdale," if at all.
@lynzway is locked out of her twitter acct. If you receive anything today from her -she's also been hacked.
about 6 hours ago via web
where did that come from?
Who would hack her? Honestly?
i find it interesting that jess is the one who posted that. also that she was hacked as well makes me curious.
gerard and co seem to be just fine though. must have smarter passwords.
i find it interesting that jess is the one who posted that. also that she was hacked as well makes me curious.
Me too. You'd think Gerard would have posted it.
"thatll teach her not to reply to my happy weekend tweet"
@lynzway is locked out of her twitter acct. If you receive anything today from her -she's also been hacked.
Hey that sounds like fun- post something like that and then go round saying all the things you always wish you could say to people. Hxc!
Also Ashley got included instead of Lyn-Z cos she's famous in her own right too.
I was kidding btw about the twitter thing, I don't even have one.
I can't imagine anyone caring enough to hack into Lindsey or Jessicka's twitters.
Weird.
Honestly, I think maybe Jessicka Addams might just be making it up for attention. Lame.
I remember when Miss E did the same thing with her livejournal. Like anybody would give enough of a shit about Miss E to hack her.
Why does Gerard continually surround himself with these pathetic attention whores?
Is 'Miss E' Eliza? I'm not up to date on the codenames lol
No, Miss E was one of the WMHC. She was always the one who would come around to defend Eliza back during the day. I think she manages Jefree Starr. Lol.
Ohhh, explains a lot haha Thanks :)
Who would hack her? Honestly?
Kiddies who are too young to get their driver's licenses so they sit around bored on the computer for hours upon hours...
Or really unmotivated people who have licenses but still choose to stay online all the time for unknown reasons.
Does it really matter?
http://twitter.com/iamjustbrian/status/13568803917
theyre also following each other now. somethings stirring in camp mcr. not looking good for the zoid.
Why should Brain and Jeff not be friends just cos of MCR? I have mutual friends that have fallen out and I've still been able to maintain a friendship with both parties.
Also, I fail to see how that relates back to Lyn-z? :S
Brian blatantly shunned anyone still connected with MCR after he stopped working for them. He only revealed he was still friends with Bob after Bob had left the group. I agree, it seems odd that he's now broadcasting his friendship with Jeff. Maybe Jeff got the boot too, or maybe Brian's back in contact with the band?
or maybe he grew up and realized it doesn't matter.
Maybe it did to him at the time? We have no idea what went down between him and the band.
We can speculate all we want but we'll most likely never know for sure.
jeffs still with the band and it relates to lindsey since their marriage was brians last straw. also after their lunch brian spent the rest of his afternoon tweeting mcr fans. somethings cooking any one with a nose could smell it.
and anyone who had actually followed this blog from the beginning wouldnt need that explained to them. careful guys the trolls still here and its learning fast.
I was just thinking that those last four anon posts all read like one person talking to themself!
LAMO! Trolls are lame...
Ooops! I can't count! But you know what I mean... lol
I didn't realise that Gerard and Lyn-z's marriage was Brian's last straw. I always knew he left around that time but thought it was coincidental as so many other things were going to shit around then.
If the troll comment was aimed at me (5:32 and 33)then I'm sorry to disappoint, I may not have been here from the start but I'm not your troll. :)
I didn't realise that Gerard and Lyn-z's marriage was Brian's last straw. I always knew he left around that time but thought it was coincidental as so many other things were going to shit around then.
We don't know if it was. I guess that was one of many things. I think Gerard's general behaviour after that very much influenced Brian's decision to leave. I thought Brian was still around while they toured in 2008, I may be wrong.
As far as I know Brian is still friends with Worm, and Worm is still friends with GW.
Who knows what is going on, but I can't help but think that things aren't too easy in the MCR camp.
This is pure speculation on my part, but I think that Brian probably had a falling out with Gerard around the time he and The Zoid got together because of Gerard's erratic behavior. I think Gerard was at the very least drinking during that time period, and after everything Brian went through with Gerard because of his alcohol/substance abuse, Brian just decided to wash his hands of Gerard.
Add to that the fact that the band wasn't making the kind of money that I'm sure Brian was hoping for and it probably just wasn't worth it to him to stick around and watch Gerard sink back into alcoholism and destroy himself and the band.
Just curious, but how many of you think Gerard fell off the wagon when he got with Lindsey? And to those who do, do you think he's still off it?
I vote yes and yes.
I think he fell off the wagon when he met Lindsey. Look at how he acts in the interviews, not just the recent one but the one right after PR where he was picking at his shirt and playing with his hair.In that interview he looked to be on something other than alcohol. I still think he drinks.
^Lynn
Sadly, I agree.
At first I thought his erratic behavior was because he was having some kind of mental episode -- mania maybe.
Now I feel like whatever happened to him at PR, drugs and/or alcohol probably played a big part in it. And no, I don't think he's cleaned up his act. I think maybe that's one of the reasons why this record is taking so long, especially since he doesn't have anyone like Brian to keep him on track.
well getting married to a chick youve only dated for about three months while sporting this http://www.buzznet.com/www/search/photos/gerard%20way/?id=86388311 is definetly a sign of either intoxication or mental/emotional distress. however i cant really say which only that he didnt drink on his wedding night according to the press and folks backstage.
He looks sad in that picture, like his eyes know that something is really off even if his brain, dick, and heart have yet to catch on.
yikes... he looks completely lost there don't he?
I almost feel sorry for him...
You could assume he may have been under some duress during that period to marry someone so suddenly, however as still appear united and have commenced their family, I would say that was very unlikely.
wherever gerard is you can tell from the look in his eyes its not with her.
if this is a untied marriage the world is really in trouble...
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/evadarkmcr/default/gerard-lyn-z--large-msg-119871517078.jpg
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/estaschia/default/gerard-lynz-bandit--large-msg-125730922936.jpg
This is going to sound terrible but do those two pictures remind anyone else of the Kennedys?
that first picture is a photoshop.
I find it disturbing that he was painting stupid messages about 'forever and ever' on his neck after only being with Lindsey for a couple of months. I mean, who was he trying to convince?
Also, about the press and people backstage saying he wasn't drinking...of course they would say that. I'm sure they were guaranteed continued access to the band by saying that. You have to remember that this is a band who gives out backstage passes to people who do defend people like Eliza on lj.
When you consider Lindsey's image before the marriage I think you have to come to the conclusion that Gerard was off of the wagon when they married.
Lindsey is known to carry vials of Bacardi around on her person. An article from the beginning of PR talked about how she had bottles of alcohol stashed under her bunk on the tour bus. Obviously this is a woman who likes to party hard and I doubt she stopped doing it during PR just because she was with Gerard.
Fans insisted that Gerard stopped being friends with Bert McCracken because of Bert's bad habits, yet the woman he married seems to be just as raunchy or raunchier and they think he still abstains? Just goes to show that fans will believe whatever they're fed.
I think Gerard was definitely drinking and maybe doing drugs during and after PR. I would hope that both he and Lindsey cleaned up their act after Bandit was born though.
Can't you at least leave the poor woman alone on Mother's Day?
Good idea.
Why don't you all show some maturity and call a moratorium on bashing people you don't even know for just one day?
Then maybe you can see what it feels like to act mature for once. Maybe it will change your life.
Here is a moment of silence for Lindsey.
Anyhoo,no one is blaming her for Gerards drinking.(If he is) He is a grown man and we were discussing if we thought he indeed fell of the wagon. Happy Mothers Day to everyone here!
I could be the one turned on
All you niggas in the back, come and jack me off
Yeah - So I could be the one that you wanted - You want
I could be the one that you want
So what the fuck y'all - Get down
yeah, happy mother's day Lindsey, what a great role model you are!
I highly, highly doubt that Lindsey forced any substances down his throat. Like Lynn said, he's an adult and if he did fall off the wagon, then that is ultimately his responsibility.
is it champagne or cider?
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/leniq/default/gerard-night-married--large-msg-127340102732.jpg
No. No one would force him to do anything. However, if you're actually in love with a recovering alcoholic you may want to tone back on the parting a bit. Otherwise it looks like you just wanted him for his money and if you you could get him drunk, well then huzzah! Easy mark, easy paycheck! Can I get a cha-ching?!... And we mustn't forget the baby she admittedly planed out with her girlfriends. You know, since its mothers day and all.... That baby is another easy paycheck, hense why she seems to want to spend as little time with it as possible.... Why be a real mother when you can be a used up drunken artist? The fangirls will still love you anyway right?... Because in the end what is the mcrmy but another easy mark/paycheck?
the zoid is an affront to real mothers everywhere but you all already know where i stand on child using and being evil.
happy moms day to all the real moms!
And we mustn't forget the baby she admittedly planed out with her girlfriends.
You know this how?
Otherwise it looks like you just wanted him for his money and if you you could get him drunk, well then huzzah! Easy mark, easy paycheck!
If I were him I would have seen a lot of women in this context, especially untalented tatted ones in some obscure obnoxious band.
Why don't you all show some maturity and call a moratorium on bashing people you don't even know for just one day?
That makes you soo mature. We don't need to know fools of her caliber.
Then maybe you can see what it feels like to act mature for once. Maybe it will change your life.
Her band can say what they like so can we.
i remember that! it was something she Texted to one of her pregnant friends when she found out. something like Congrats We're Next...
i know we talked about it on here, does anyone remember who it was?
i can't keep track of babies that year for the life of me, there were just so dang many... lol.
is it champagne or cider?
The one in the wedding pic is cider because i doubt Gerard would pose(fierce)for a picture holding alcohol. The pic onstage whoever looks like chamagne. Maybe Frank and the crew wanted to get him smashed so he would just shut up and go to sleep!LOL!
There used to be a video up on Youtube of Gerard doing an "end of tour" toast at PR. He was giving champagne to all the members of MCR. Before he took a sip he said something like, "Of course this is just sparkling cider" then after he drank it he said, "this is the real stuff! How'd that happen?" (or something along that line). Then he shrugged and drank it anyway.
I took that to mean that he was definitely off the wagon and that he didn't care who knew it. People had been speculating that he was drinking by then anyway, because of his strange behavior.
A bunch of fangirls said he was just kidding, but people who were at PR that night said that champagne was flowing freely among all the bands and crews in celebration of the tour coming to a close.
Anyway, does anyone else remember that? Or do you have a link?
Amazing.
This place never, ever changes.
You want to know the difference between this place and Mayo's? At Mayo's they talk about other things. Those people have other things in their lives besides MCR.
You people don't seem to have any common ground except for your hatred of Gerard Way and his wife and the mother of his child. What a lovely thing to hold a group of people together.
Oh so sad.
So, from the looks of things, MCR might not even release a new record this year. Do you think the magazines will put them on their Most Anticipated Albums for 2011 lists if the release date keeps getting pushed back?
i think theyll get sued just like 30stm did.
I don't think Warner will sue them, I think they're the ones who keep sending them back into the studio.
I think dragging this record out forever is a gigantic mistake. The longer it takes, the more people are going to expect from it. If it's anything short of spectacular, it's going to be a disappointment.
Plus, how are they ever going to make any money off it? They've spent so much time on it, they can't help but be going into some serious debt. The whole thing seems like a lose/lose situation.
However, if you're actually in love with a recovering alcoholic you may want to tone back on the parting a bit.
How do you know that she was still 'partying' when she got together with Gerard?
I think if we want to be taken seriously here we should stop stating assumptions as facts and make it clear through our choice of words that we're thinking or guessing things rather than knowing them for a fact when we don't have any actual proof.
I think that if you're an alcoholic and want to avoid a relapse you self-evidently keep away from people and situations that could endanger you to have a drink again, or even two, three...
In my opinion Gerard is incredibly self-conscious and insecure so I doubt that he would have the mental strength to resist the urge to fit in and drink with other people.
I myself (not being an alcoholic) know how hard it is to go out with friends who are drinking alcohol and ask you numerous times that night why you're only drinking soda and if you really don't want a beer or a cocktail and having to experience that annoying Come on, let's have a shot. Oh, come on, just one beer. Relax, we're just having fun. Let's have a drink. tug-of-war the whole night long.
I don't think that all the people around Gerard are that considerate towards him and leave him alone and respect his situation, especially if he's on tour with other bands who are drinking alcohol let alone all the groupies, the road crew etc.
They are all drinking and they all want to have fun and I doubt that Gerard would sit in his bus all alone after shows playing WoW while the others were celebrating.
He probably can keep it together now so that he doesn't have to be that pissed anymore to be able to go on stage but I don't believe for a minute that he's not drinking.
How could he?
How do you know that she was still 'partying' when she got together with Gerard?
I'm not the same anon who made the statement you addressed, but there was an interview with MSI that was done at the start of PR where the writer said that Lindsey had bottles of booze stashed under her bunk so she could have a drink before breakfast. Maybe it was a joke, but I assumed when I read it that Lindsey was a pretty heavy drinker.
You'd be hard pressed to find that interview now though. I'm sure we had a link to it on this blog at some point, but MSI have taken it off their press page.
for a band that supposedly says what they want and don't give a fuck, they sure did some damage control on their site once the mcr connection was out there. they got their 15 minutes out of it in the alternative music mags, i doubt we'll be seeing much more of them in that regard. good riddance.
good riddance indeed. fucking shockcore posers. maybe theyll be replaced by a band with some real depth.
You want to know the difference between this place and Mayo's? At Mayo's they talk about other things. Those people have other things in their lives besides MCR.
No, they talk over there because they think Mayo is Gerard.
Plus, how are they ever going to make any money off it? They've spent so much time on it, they can't help but be going into some serious debt. The whole thing seems like a lose/lose situation
I think this is one of the reasons Bob left.
If you go back and read VV's very first blogs, it seems that most of the commenters here came from Mayo's and guess what? They actually AGREED with the people here.
What happened to change their minds?
*sigh*
Can we leave the Blog that Shall Not be Named out of things? Please?
I think this is one of the reasons Bob left.
I think so too. Maybe Bob's the smart one and got out before he had to sign his life over to Warner just to pay them back for the studio time on this record.
i agree. plus it has to be really exhausting for the rest of the band to have to follow gerards whims like that. especially in the case of bob.
i never thought of it like that, but it does seem like this whole album is based on gerard's fancy. i can't recall any of the others saying anything in the press about the direction of the new music.
Do you think the magazines will put them on their Most Anticipated Albums for 2011 lists if the release date keeps getting pushed back?
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If not, there's always a possibility that the album will never be released and the band decide to break up.
i agree. plus it has to be really exhausting for the rest of the band to have to follow gerards whims like that. especially in the case of bob.
It's very grandiose to assume one individual has that much authority within a band. As a business, I would assume they must make all their major decisions in unison.
The champagne toast in Denver. Save yourself the grimmacing pain and forward to 3.15. I actually think he puts the drink down after he realized it was alcohol. But whatever.
I'm not convinced he was drinking during PR. At the time I thought he was on something though. But looking back now I think he was genuinely high on being in love. It was embarrassing to say the least, but he's not the first person to act like an asshole when in the same situation. It's just he did it infront of thousands, and there is a shit load of video evidence to prove his assholeness.
From that MSI interview where LynZ had bottles of alcohol in her bunk for when she woke up to paint the world in a better light or whatever the fuck she said. She was obviously drinking (excessively) at the start of PR. Maybe she continued to drink (excessively or not), who knows?
I do think perhaps GW has fallen off the wagon since PR though. But I think his problem is more substance abuse. Some of the interviews since then have been just so wrong. And I'm not talking about the bullshit that comes out of his mouth but just the way he carries himself/ talks etc. It's different to say 2005 when he really seemed very clean and sober.
Just speculating away......
i remember that! it was something she Texted to one of her pregnant friends when she found out. something like Congrats We're Next...
i know we talked about it on here, does anyone remember who it was?
It was a twitter conversation between Chantal, Lucinda and LynZ. Reminiscing a year back to when Chantal and Lucinda sneaked off to buy a pregnancy test, and it was positive. Then Lucinda said to LynZ, "It will be you guys next." Which the next month it was.
Wow. I'm an MCR fan, and I'm not afraid to say it, but reading your blog has really made me question how I look up to them. I've never liked Lyn-Z, but I used to think that Gerard was a good person. Guess I've been looking at the old stuff.
It's very grandiose to assume one individual has that much authority within a band. As a business, I would assume they must make all their major decisions in unison.
You never watched Behind the Music: Journey, did you?
Steve Perry wasn't even in that band when it started out, but after he joined it, he took it over. Why? He became their singer and took over writing all of the lyrics and afterwards the band became very successful (mostly due to the fact that people loved the songs he wrote).
But then he took the band in a completely different direction which irked some of the other members. They sold out, so to speak. Of course, they were getting rich, so most of them just went along. Then he started making all kinds of crazy demands: he had to have his own tour bus so his girlfriend could tour with them and he started distancing himself from the band.
After the band went on a hiatus, and members did separate projects, they never really could get things back together again.
I'm not saying that MCR is following their path (one, they aren't as successful as Journey), but Gerard certainly does appear to be calling all the shots.
It's very grandiose to assume one individual has that much authority within a band. As a business, I would assume they must make all their major decisions in unison.
I think you are very naive to say that. Look at the recent magazine interviews. Gerard is MCR according to the press and most of the fans.
I'm not convinced he was drinking during PR. At the time I thought he was on something though. But looking back now I think he was genuinely high on being in love. It was embarrassing to say the least, but he's not the first person to act like an asshole when in the same situation. It's just he did it infront of thousands, and there is a shit load of video evidence to prove his assholeness.
At the time I thought he was high on his own brain chemistry. He behaved just like my husband did when he was having an extreme manic phase that went unchecked. My husband was bipolar and when he was in the middle of one of those crazy manias he would act like an idiot and make stupid decisions that he would come to regret later. He ruined his life doing that. I worry about Gerard, Lindsey and Bandit because if the marriage was a result of Gerard doing crazy things during mania, I don't see how it's going to end well.
i never thought of it like that, but it does seem like this whole album is based on gerard's fancy. i can't recall any of the others saying anything in the press about the direction of the new music.
It always has been, and always will be, about Gerard Way. Not just in relation to the band either.
Doubt you can compare a 70's band to the way the music industry is run today, though their frontman sounded like an egotistical fat head in the G Way vein.
I worry about Gerard, Lindsey and Bandit because if the marriage was a result of Gerard doing crazy things during mania, I don't see how it's going to end well.
It's not a subject I know much about. But if it was down to him suffering from a manic episode, then that is very scary.
It always has been, and always will be, about Gerard Way. Not just in relation to the band either.
It will be all about Gerard Way when it falls apart too.
But if it was down to him suffering from a manic episode, then that is very scary.
Unless he suffered from severe paralytic depression straight after, I doubt it would have been a manic episode.
It will be all about Gerard Way when it falls apart too.
Too true.
Unless he suffered from severe paralytic depression straight after, I doubt it would have been a manic episode.
Like I said, I really know nothing about the subject. But it's interesting to ready your thoughts on it.
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I think you are very naive to say that. Look at the recent magazine interviews. Gerard is MCR according to the press and most of the fans.
Could it be because the idiot is always talking and promoting himself?
It's very grandiose to assume one individual has that much authority within a band. As a business, I would assume they must make all their major decisions in unison.
I think you are very naive to say that. Look at the recent magazine interviews. Gerard is MCR according to the press and most of the fans.
I don't think that anon was naive. It's all about perception, and the one that can spin a good yarn gets attention from the press.
Unless he suffered from severe paralytic depression straight after, I doubt it would have been a manic episode.
My husband had depressions after his manias, but they weren't paralytic. And he always self-medicated to get through the depressions. Not the manias, though, because he enjoyed them so much.
He was able to continue with his manic/depressive cycles for years before finally succumbing to the depression and taking his own life. But before that he was very successful in business and nobody really knew just how sick he was.
I don't think that anon was naive. It's all about perception, and the one that can spin a good yarn gets attention from the press.
Do you really think that MCR would continue to exist without Gerard? How would that even be possible?
The other band members know that they wouldn't have a band without him. They'd have to start from scratch.
The other band members know that they wouldn't have a band without him. They'd have to start from scratch
Exactly. That's why they probably just grit their teeth and do what he wants. But how long can they continue to do that? I think Bob reached his limit. How long before Frank or Ray says enough?
Do you really think that MCR would continue to exist without Gerard? How would that even be possible?
I agree MCR wouldn't exist without GW. But MCR wouldn't have released anything half decent without Ray Toro.
They'd have to start from scratch.
Might be just what they need.
I agree MCR wouldn't exist without GW. But MCR wouldn't have released anything half decent without Ray Toro.
That's the sad thing about this whole mess. There are other members in the band who are more talented than Gerard, yet it seem to me that they just let him call the shots.
I think they'd be better off if they went their separate ways and formed their own bands.
Maybe GW should be MCR. That way his real genius can shine through. Although he might need to hire some background musicians, or Matt Cortez.
Maybe GW should be MCR.
Then he could write songs called Oh, Lindsey and make her the star of his videos.
I'm so sorry 4:51. The brother of one of my closest friends suffers from bipolar type 1 and suffers severe psychotic mania with severe depression which required hospitalization at least three times until he found the medication that finally stabilized his moods.
Then he could write songs called Oh, Lindsey and make her the star of his videos.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's already been done.
The other band members know that they wouldn't have a band without him. They'd have to start from scratch.
Poor other band members always having GW calling all the shots :/
Waiting this long to put out a record is the kiss of death for bands like MCR. By end of summer if this record isn't ready to be released they might as well slap some shit together, call it a 'Best Of' and then call it quits. Even the most die hard MCR fans are moving on.
Oh, I agree 5:17. Poor, poor babies.
call it a 'Best Of'
Or call it 'Zoidles is the best'.
to be quite honest, i feel like we shouldn't compare anyone to MCR or MSI... becuase that's an insult to the band we're comparing them too...
As to the champagne toast, that was one of the things that ticked me off to Gerard's insanity... thats also about the time i truly stopped listening
Thanks, 5:09.
The thing about Bipolar I is that the manic episodes can continue for very long periods of time. It's not always a rapid cycle between mania and depression.
I always thought that Gerard showed symptoms of severe depression during the early part of 2007 when he was engaged to Eliza and his behavior towards fans seemed to change so drastically. Then his behavior at PR was so erratic -- I have to admit, it scared the hell out of me.
I'm not sure what happened after that. Gerard continued to behave erratically during the European tour, but he was better during the band's final run. Maybe his handlers got him on some meds. Maybe I'm reading too much into things. I don't know.
I do know that it isn't normal for people to change who they are so drastically as Gerard did and I am still worried for his mental health.
To be honest, I sincerely think that The Zoid sounds like a better stage-name than Lyn-Z.
Waiting this long to put out a record is the kiss of death for bands like MCR. By end of summer if this record isn't ready to be released they might as well slap some shit together, call it a 'Best Of' and then call it quits. Even the most die hard MCR fans are moving on.
I agree with everything you said.
Poor other band members always having GW calling all the shots :/
Or, maybe since they're all grown men, they should collectively grow a pair and tell Gerard that enough is enough.
To be honest, I sincerely think that The Zoid sounds like a better stage-name than Lyn-Z.
Me too. Lyn-Z just sounds so juvenile. It doesn't help matters that there is a professional skateboarder who is about 10 years younger who shares that name.
The fact that the band can't seem to get it together long enough to get this album together makes me question Gerard's mental health as well.
A few months ago it was like the thing was already in the can. They were previewing it to magazines and listing album tracks. Now they're back in the studio writing new songs. Sense. It makes none.
To be honest, I sincerely think that The Zoid sounds like a better stage-name than Lyn-Z.
Me too. Lyn-Z just sounds so juvenile. It doesn't help matters that there is a professional skateboarder who is about 10 years younger who shares that name.
lol....
Lyn-Z Adams Hawkins is only 20. According to Wikipedia, she's been using the name Lyn-Z since she was in 4th grade. So she's had it longer than Lindsey Ann Ballato Way.
^_^
think LynZ Hawkins could sue lindsey way???
Or, maybe since they're all grown men, they should collectively grow a pair and tell Gerard that enough is enough.
Or maybe they don't care anymore and just go along with it figuring if it ends Gerard will be the one dealing with it mostly.
Maybe she could, but I doubt she would bother. After all, most of the world doesn't have a clue who LynZ Way even is.
lynz could call herself zoidzway
so im scrolling through some blogs, and come across the post that says James Dewees is to become the 6th member of MCR.... is he their new drummer?
After all, most of the world doesn't have a clue who LynZ Way even is.
I think the rest of the world is probably very lucky.
that says James Dewees is to become the 6th member of MCR.... is he their new drummer?
No it's Lynz, she's been taking secret drumming lessons with Kitty. Looking forward to watching her backbend while pounding those skins.
6.08 that would be a feat... however i perfer watching Tre Cool perform in Drag.... much more commical
I remember when those rumors about James Dewees becoming an official member of MCR first surfaced. Fangirls were all like, "Nooooo! MCR can't have another member. He'll mess up the photographs."
Cuz, James isn't good-looking enough to be a member of MCR, don't you know.
For sure, the others are just sooo devastatingly attractive, peculiar odors and all.
first single off the next twilight soundtrack will be from Muse...
sorry off topic
For sure, the others are just sooo devastatingly attractive, peculiar odors and all.
Well, the fangirls seem to think they're oh so hawt. There even used to be an lj dedicated to Toro's thighs if I'm not mistaken...
Muse has used Twilight to become known in the US. Not a bad marketing plan, actually. I don't think it will hurt them because they are already so well known in the UK and they're considered a very credible band.
Although, their last record kinda sucked, IMO.
According to Wikipedia, she's been using the name Lyn-Z since she was in 4th grade.
Lol. Lyn-Z is a fitting name for a 4th grader.
A 34 year old woman? Not so much.
5:02 Matt Cortez is pretty much a one man band.
6:13 I'm rather fond of James.
And I agree about this album must be having some pretty big problems. TBP was supposedly so much trouble for them but it seemed easier for them to get through than this does.
5:02 Matt Cortez is pretty much a one man band.
6:13 I'm rather fond of James.
And I agree about this album must be having some pretty big problems. TBP was supposedly so much trouble for them but it seemed easier for them to get through than this does.
I don't think it will hurt them because they are already so well known in the UK and they're considered a very credible band.
Yes I agree. Muse are also massive in parts of Europe and have been for a long time.
4.51 my sympathies for what you and your husband went through. Very, very sad.
I'm not sure what happened after that. Gerard continued to behave erratically during the European tour, but he was better during the band's final run. Maybe his handlers got him on some meds.
Or maybe he sank into another depression and was self-medicating (not unlike Kurt Cobain did) during that time. He was scary skinny and I wondered about cocaine use because of the pace they were keeping.
I really do think you are correct that he was dealing with some severe mental issues and I hope he got some help during the hiatus, but what with the baby and all... it would have been tough.
Maybe I'm making excuses for him, but I feel sorry for the man. I think he is ill and he needs help and support, which is why I don't understand why everyone here continually runs him down.
I'm not trying to be rude to you or say you're not entitled to your opinions, but what if the man is truly sick?
I'm sorry to hear that too 4:51. My first love was Bipolar and I loved him to death but it was one of the hardest things in the world to cope with. Some days he would be 'normal', others he'd be on top of the world and then maybe the next he'd want to kill himself- something he attempted 4 times. The worst part is there was no way of knowing just what mood he would wake up in, no way of knowing how long each phase would last.
It made me very anxious and brought on some mental health issues of my own. I stuck by him for nearly 5 years and then one day, during a 'moment of clarity' he left me, saying he needed a fresh start. He turned his back on everything he once held dear and cut all contact with me- via e-mail, never giving me the chance to say goodbye.
I think there is every possibility Gerard could be sufferering- we already know he has battled with depression. Having experienced crippling depression myself I can say that I honestly believe it never truely goes away, it is always lurking below the surface.
However, the flip side of that is generally when you are happy, you are euphoriclly happy and so I think getting with Lyn-Z during PR may explain his behaviour there.
i am sorry you went through that 5:01. that actually sounds a little like what gerard did to eliza.
Thanks 5:09. The worst part is my second 'boyfriend' treats me even more like Eliza. i.e Making me promises he can't keep, twisting things round to make it seem to the outside world like I'm crazy while all the time he's playing his little games and filling my head with what I want to hear, only ever giving me just enough to keep me hanging on. I sure know how to pick 'em! lol
It hurts most though cos this guy was my best friend for years beforehand(I'd never have trusted anyone else enough to let them in after what I'd been through previously) and he used to treat me like a princess.
My husband left me three times during the course of our relationship -- always during the manic periods. He would find some younger girl to be infatuated with and then decide he didn't want the responsibility of marriage (and children, we had two together). Of course, once he came down he would always be terribly sorry for what he did and he would beg me back. The first two times I went back, but after the third (and after he kept refusing to get help) I just couldn't do it anymore.
He sank into a very deep depression after that. He quit his business (left it to me) and refused to come out of his apartment. After he went for several days without having contact with anyone, I went to his apartment and found him dead. He had shot himself in the head.
The thing that bothers me so much about Gerard is that he reminds me so very much of my husband. The way he left Kat for the ridiculous Eliza and the rumors of him trying to get her to take him back at Christmas ring so true to me. My husband did the same type of thing. Then the whirlwind courtship with Lindsey. I could see my husband doing that had I refused to take him back the first couple of times.
Sorry to go on and on with my stupid sad story, but I'm just afraid the same type of thing could happen with Gerard.
Wow, y'all are some sad ass bitches. No wonder you got nothing better to do than post your shit here.
Wow, y'all are some sad ass bitches
No.
It's called life. Sometimes people have to cope with more than others can even begin to imagine.
Thank you for sharing something so personal 5:39, and others. Wishing you all much future happiness.
Thank you for sharing your story about your husband, I'm sorry for your loss. I'm just sad that some people can't actually get that you're a person sharing their life here. I do appreciate it, you made me think.
Wow, y'all are some sad ass bitches. No wonder you got nothing better to do than post your shit here.
How old are you? You're a disgusting human being but I still don't wish that you have to go through half of what others here have been through.
4:51 what an awful thing to go through, that is so tragic. When I read that I had tears in my eyes because it rings so true. My boyfriend would often talk about leaving me, and maybe he did, there were times during both his manic and depressive phases where he would go awol for days, and one time weeks. The one thing I am thankful for is that he was on meds and seeing a therapist, even though said therapist contributed to him leaving me.
Reading your story makes me think though, I wish I knew how he was now. When he left me he cut all contact and was just about to move house. I have tried everything to trace him but I have no idea where he is now. It's haunted me for a very long time.
I agree with you though , I can see similar behaviour in Gerard.
Your story is not stupid 5:39. I'm so sorry that you and your family suffered so much. I feel privileged to read about your experiences and wish you all the best.
Wow, y'all are some sad ass bitches. No wonder you got nothing better to do than post your shit here.
What a stupid callous thing to post. Could you imagine going through what this person went through?
Thanks to everyone for their kinds words.
I would like to say that my husband died over five years ago, and while not a day goes by that I don't think about him, I have gone on with my life and I'm in a very good place right now. My kids and I went through therapy and we have learned to accept what happened and not to blame ourselves.
To 5:01 I would like to say for you to stop blaming yourself and to stop worrying if there was something you could have done for your ex. Trust me when I say, if these people don't want your help there is nothing on earth you can do. If you stay with them, they will only bring you down.
Looking back at my situation, I think the best thing I could have done would have been to refuse to take my husband back after the first time he left me. I feel like I enabled him by continuing to forgive him. Maybe if I had told him no, he would have acknowledged his diagnosis and gotten the help he needed. But who knows? It's all water under the bridge at this point and things can't be changed.
You are better off without this man, 5:01. Go on with your life and find someone who is available to you emotionally. People like your ex and my husband are not. They can only take in relationships because they have nothing to give.
As far as Gerard is concerned, I am not of the belief that we should cut him slack or stay off his case or whatever fangirls say just because he might be ill. He's been seeing a therapist for years and I'm sure they've given him a diagnosis. My husband chose to ignore his diagnosis. He admitted to depression, but was totally in denial about the Bipolar part. He actually made himself worse by taking antidepressants, painkillers and drinking and he was thrilled whenever one of his manic periods came around.
By saying things like, "Oh, he's sick and he can't help himself," or "He's human, give him a break," MCR fans have just become a whole army of enablers. If he is sick or addicted, he certainly doesn't need a zillion more excuses to continue on with what he's doing.
Once again, to all of you who offered words of support, thank you.
Buzzkill much?
Frank's latest pictures: shit as usual.
Maybe MCR needs to stop playing with toy guns and start making music.
So if Gerard is mentally ill and can only take in relationships, does this mean that we have to feel sorry for Lindsey? Because, frankly, that's going to be hard for me.
Those photos are just big jokes, seriously.
i'm actually wondering if this photography thing is a big gimmick to see how long the fangirls will proclaim their love of everything connected to the band. i have no doubt the band mocks some of their fans in private, perhaps this is just a big joke. because honestly those pictures look like crappy blurry cell phone pix. and they're selling them, and apparently are moderately successful in that. at least i hope this is a joke.
Those pictures really are bad.
http://twitter.com/raytoro/status/13831366414
and here we all thought he was the nice one.
seriously im not a katy perry fan or a kesha fan for that mattter but any band that promotes msi has no right to ever critique anyone elses producing ability.
even most mcr fans admit that msi it sounds like dying cats.
their words not mine.
mcr is just a bunch of assholes at this point. assholes who whine when other bands make fun of their lack of talent but cant wait to hop on the hate bus when it comes to someone elses work.
fuckers.
Agreed.
Also, probably not the wisest career move to make fun of Maxim's hottest woman in the world right now either.
**Settles in and waits for backlash*
Screw MSI! Any band that takes this bloody long to record an album doesn't have a right to mock anyone who's actually gotten their album produced and out to a fanbase triple their size!
Ray Toro can just go and shove his MacPro up his mean and snooty ass!
(Sorry, I actually am a Katy Perry fan. I like that she plays her own instruments and actually has a brain to go with her looks. Also, she'd never fucking say anything like that about a fellow musician!)
u know i dont think she cares...
http://twitter.com/katyperry/status/13829062423
if she knew about it she'd probably go "who the fuck is ray toro?"
i know, right? man have they gotten arrogant!
u know i dont think she cares...
http://twitter.com/katyperry/status/13829062423
May 11, 2010 11:53 PM
Why would a successful entertainer be concerned about what some guitarist from a washed up emo band thinks?
I've always thought MCR's arrogance would eventually be their demise. I have no doubt that they think they can take all the time in the world to make this record and it won't matter. They honestly believe themselves to be the most unique, inovative band in music. Every song they premiered at the Roxy was one shit song after another, with Gerard screeching the lyrics left and right. If they honestly believe they have a place in the history of music as anything other then one of those briefly successful emo bands who eventually drifted out to nowhere, then I feel sorry for them. Anyone with such severe delusions of grandeur are just setting themselves up for a long fall, with a big splat at the end.
Maybe Katy Perry should tell Ray Toro that he doesn't have "the juice" to criticize her.
Kidding.
But yeah, he's got no business criticizing anyone when MCR can't even manage to get a record out after being in the studio since last February.
They honestly believe themselves to be the most unique, inovative band in music.
Agreed.
Too bad the rest of the world doesn't agree with them. I think the new record will tank (if, indeed, they ever manage to release it) and they'll get a huge wake-up call.
Of course that could be a learning experience for them, but I predict that Gerard and Mikey will just take their toys and go home. Maybe Toro and Frank will manage to stay in music but I don't think Gerard will be able to handle a huge failure.
Out of sight, out of mind.
Most of the world won't even remember who MCR was by the time the new record comes out. "Oh, that band that did the 'I am not afraid to keep on living song', the one with the chubby blond singer? Meh, that doesn't even sound like them." *switches channel*
People have very short memories. Somebody told me today that the TV show Heroes was probably going to get canceled. I used to watch it all of the time, but after the writer's strike, I just didn't pick it back up again. I was like, "You mean it didn't get canceled a long time ago?"
^
One of the downsides for music in the information age. It's easier to get your music out there but it's harder to get and keep people's attention.
For every known band that's having an identity crisis and taking two years to get a record together, there are hundreds of bands who already know who they are and are dying for the chance to just get their music out there.
MCR may still see themselves as a "working class band" but their actions prove otherwise. They're acting like a group of spoiled rotten, entitled assholes who think their fans will just wait around forever.
as much as its possible that a lot of mcr fans have moved on, its also obvious from their twitter followers that they still have many faithful fans out there.
I predict their new album will sell well, and the shows will be sold out within minutes. They're a cult band, they're adored by their fans, and they arent going away just yet, no matter how much you might wish it, sorry
I predict their new album will sell well, and the shows will be sold out within minutes. They're a cult band, they're adored by their fans, and they arent going away just yet, no matter how much you might wish it, sorry
A large amount of twitter followers is no guarantee that they are actually going to buy your music as opposed to downloading it or buy a ticket to watch you play. Many of them can't even afford to, so I predict it won't do so well, I sorry.
Their shows may very well sell out, but that will only be because they'll be playing much smaller venues. The musical landscape is forever changing, and unless you're a band whose music appeals to many, you're not likely to out last your genre's shelf life. Especially if you fail to release your records quickly to keep the fanbase interested. MCR are, whether they like it or not, part of the emo culture that has already reached its peak. There is no where for them to go now but down. Sorry.
at this point even most of their jersey fanbase have declared them sellouts and thus abandoned them.
also. spot on with the downloading bit. most of mcrs fanbase are teens. why would they buy it when then could just get it for free?
mcr is going to go broke. lindsey will drop gerard for some other wannabe rocker whos to young to notice anything but her backbends and panties and mcr will be forgotten.
to be honest they started down the path to failure the moment he died his hair that shitty blond color. the zoid and her friends are just helping to speed up the process.
no ones gonna dig a old washed up rocker with a kid and sad clowned hag by 2020 i can assure you.
thats why all bret michales can get are sad used up whores who only want gold and goldschlager.
(guess hes gonna have to pick up drinking again once he ends up on the rebound.)
^If Lyn-z wait ten years to leave his soon to be broke ass shes going to be far too ugly to get anyone but Bret Michales...
Or maybe Nikki Sixx... she looks a bit like Kat Von D... but cheaper.
as much as its possible that a lot of mcr fans have moved on, its also obvious from their twitter followers that they still have many faithful fans out there.
I predict their new album will sell well, and the shows will be sold out within minutes. They're a cult band, they're adored by their fans, and they arent going away just yet, no matter how much you might wish it, sorry
You're kidding, right? MCR Official only has something like 45,000 followers on Twitter. And how many of them are from South America? A better judge of their fanbase might be facebook, because the people on facebook actually buy music and go to shows.
MCR has a little over a million followers on facebook, which isn't bad, but it's not great either. Bands like Linkin Park and Kings of Leon have from 3-5x that many. And MGMT, who have only been around a few years and just released their second record have nearly as many as MCR.
Katy Perry, who has over a million followers on Twitter has nearly 3x as many followers on facebook as MCR.
Yeah, MCR might be a cult band, but a lot is resting on this record. If it sucks, I think their sales will dry up and they'll be washed up.
What does South America have to do with anything?
If you look at google trends, it shows that most searches on MCR come from other countries: many from South America. You can also tell that from reading the comments on MCR's site.
To my knowledge, MCR only toured South America once. They made most of their money before from the UK and US.
I don't know too many bands who tour primarily in South America.
TBP didn't sell as many records as it did because of "long term fans." It brought in a ton of new fans because it was more commercial than MCR's previous work and because it go actual radio airplay.
If this new record is not commercial and doesn't get the same airplay, they'll lose a lot of the people they gained with TBP.
They've already lost a ton of people who came in with Revenge so I doubt this new record is going to burn up the charts.
I think that EVEN IF Gerard is bipolar, which certainly provides some form of reason for his actions, it doesn't erase them. He made some stupid choices (LYNZ. LYNZ. SHE DOESN'T EVEN DESERVE A HYPHEN.) And if he chose to drink again and use again, that really sucks (I used to look up to him, to be honest, but now I'm not sure what to think) but once again, it's clearly his choice.
As for the record, and the music, I think that if they don't release it soon, they will have problems. MCR seems to be a bit of a "phase" band, with any "emo" girl going through it at least once. Only a few, like me, truly like them for their sound (which, as said, is slow on the coming) and who they are (not their looks, although they certainly help, but their personas, which seem to be dying into dead divas). And their "phases" last about a year, maybe two. Three Cheers fed into TBP, but this record needs to move fast to even grab onto the tails of TBP.
As for the emo scene, I think it's not dead, but, like any subculture, it's mutating. The Goth gave rise to the emo (which I sorely regret being too young to be part of), which seems to have gone scene. "Emo" bands are going in one of a few directions: some, like Boys Like Girls (and the emopop genre) are going pop; some, like Panic!, are maturing and going more alt-rock, and some, like The Used, sticking firmly in the punk crowd. MCR needs to wise up and go for either the second or third, because the emo scene as the created (largely) is dying. And they can't save it, especially not how they are now. If they fail, I think that Ray will quietly move into other music business (he has legitimate talent), Gerard will fail out as an artist and become a sad waste of talent, Mikey will quietly (as usual) fade out, trying to keep Gerard okay, and Frank will scream and shout and break stuff in the usual Frank way, probably in LeATHERMOUTH. They'll leave us real fans (not Gerard groupies) with a bitter taste in their mouth (no way will they go quietly), a collection of great music, and some good memories from the Summer of Like '05-'06 to try and erase all the sucky ones from '07 onwards.
I'm not some SQUEEGEEILUVYOU troll, nor am I an established anon. I'm a fan who's dissapointed in them and their waste of potential. I used to respect them so much, but now I'm not sure.
~Kasu
I hope their talent doesn't go to waste. They could really be something if they got their shit together. But history tells us that is rare after a point. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Kasu.
http://twitter.com/lynzway/status/13888684534
now its time for the REAL parenting to begin. i hate knowing that neither one of them is up for it...
I don't think I like casting aspersions on their parenting abilities to be honest. It reminds me too much of (for example) people doubting a father's parenting just because he looks like a biker.
Only if that biker's never home because he's out everyday preparing for a special and unnecessary "biker art show" while his "biker husband" spends all day at the studio recording his special "biker rock".
Why do you continue to try and "reason" with us when you are obviously operating on your own special branch of logic?
Just go away already crazy-pants!
(Honestly, you think we're judging them on their looks and self-proclaimed titles. How cute and not at all small minded of you...)
Just go away already crazy-pants!
Hmmm, "crazy-pants". Who is fond of using that terminology?
every parent knows that when a kid starts walking there every move has to be monitored. where they go you go and they are going to want to go everywhere.
i really dont think the zoids addmitedly busy lifestyle is right for that.
of course. they probably have some high paid nanny so they dont have to worry themselve with things like raising their child.
no. theyll just buy her things and show her off without any real responsiblity in the matter and wonder why she hates them when she hits high school after years of hearing what a whore her mother was and a girl her dad was.
you know her whore of a mother and girl of a dad who were never there for her when she needed them and gave her a name that kids had been making fun of for years.
i can only imagine what it would be like to see your mothers underwear before you experience your first kiss or watch you dad make an entire audience fuck themselves before your first date.
i wouldnt be shocked if bandit grows up to be a lesbian. i sure as hell would.
11:21. Wow, I've actually been a frequenter of this blog for months now, so I really don't appreciate you lumping me with mindless fangirls who try to excuse every single tasteless thing Gerard and Co do.
I just don't agree with speculating about their parenting abilities when we really don't have much idea at all about how they are with their child.
An entire generation of people who love cartoons?
Fuck off, crazy-pants. Seriously, if that your best retort just fuck-off you fucking troll.
(Maybe I should call you Pillow-pants instead. But once you name it you have to feed it and once you feed it you can never get rid of it. You know, like a rash.)
I agree with you 11:30, we don't know, though I really hope that at least one of them has the gumption to try to be a good one.
Only if that biker's never home because he's out everyday preparing for a special and unnecessary "biker art show" while his "biker husband" spends all day at the studio recording his special "biker rock".
Reads like a match made in hardcore heaven.
its ture that we have no idea how they are with bandit. but we do know enough about how busy each of them are right now to know that shes not the number one thing in their life.
i suspect thats because both of them fear the thought of being defined by their child.
unfortunately thats what it means to be good parents.
children without emotional security grow up damaged. thats common knowledge.
your children should come first. always. especially if you planned them for more than financial gain.
I don't see why me having a different opinion than you makes me a troll. I didn't say Gerard and Lyn-Z are great parents, I didn't say they're bad parents. Because I don't know.
9:43, ignore the "crazy-pants" anon. They're shit stirring.
i suspect thats because both of them fear the thought of being defined by their child.
unfortunately thats what it means to be good parents.
What a load of rubbish.
"i wouldnt be shocked if bandit grows up to be a lesbian. i sure as hell would."
Or at the very least emotionally or mentally disturbed. Even if the MSI act is put away by then, just being around people like Jimmy and Chantal couldn't be good for a young child.
That fact that named her Bandit is all the evidence I need to know that they'll be bad parents.
Maybe they'll get better after the inevitable divorce.
I have no doubt each will be in a race to remarry as soon as possible, so hopefully four parents will be able to pull off the duties of two.
I dont think they ever planned to raise her themselves. Why would they?
Only crazy people like the Wentzs do that.
i wouldnt be shocked if bandit grows up to be a lesbian. i sure as hell would.
What a silly narrow minded thing to post. Especially in regards to a small child.
Who will be Lyn-Z's next hubby? Her buddy Jess.
definitely a troll lurking out here. im going to just step out for a bit.
You're just upset because your tiny little mind can't possibly comprehend complex words like rubbish.
You are a silly little one, aren't you?
Go back to Mayos, pillow-pants.
First of all, people don't "become" lesbians. They're born that way.
Secondly, just because people have busy lifestyles, it doesn't mean that they can't be decent parents.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not defending Gerard or Lindsey and their stupid life choices, but let's not make ridiculous, untrue statements and generalizations, okay?
Bandit probably will grow up to resent her parents because of her name and I daresay she won't exactly be thrilled by her parents PR shenanigans (if anyone remembers them by then) or the type of band her mom was in.
She'll most likely just be just one of many celebrity kids who grows up and changes her name to something like Susan and has very little to do with her parents.
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