This is going back to the post about S//C and that blog...I love Casey. Whoever you are Casey...You got that place sorted out and you said all the right things.
Okay sorry for that interruption, I just needed to say that after reading that.
They truly think these guys are the salt of the earth and don't do any drugs, when those in the know KNOW Frank smokes weed, pops pills...and Mikey...probably more so than Frank. Oh and Gerard drinks.
Lol. Even people not in "the know" know that. It's completely friggin' obvious.
I've not heard anything about Alicia causing trouble. Sorry. Maybe she's dealing to Mikey and giving him the clap again.......
Bob's departure is going to hurt them with the fans, that's for sure. Even the most die hard MCR fans are confused, upset and angry because they realize they were lied to. Gerard's voice was never an issue (other then the fact that he can't sing) they just weren't prepared to go to the shows without Bob and no explanation for why he wasn't there. The fans are realizing that the band is falling apart one piece at a time. It's like a domino effect. First Bob then someone else. Before they know it Gerard will be recording a solo record. The band is finished. From this point on all they are doing is going through the motions and finishing out their contracts. I'd say Bob was smart to jump ship before it sinks completely.
i know everyones been saying matt cortez might replace bob but what about james dewees? he drums for leathermouth. but that would mean they would have to give up having live keyboards or find another keyboardist
Some fans seem to think that it wasn't a case of the band lying, but a case of them not wanting to dish out a load of bad news at once, ie. better to say Gerard's vocals were under strain and reveal Bob was leaving a while later, so as not to stress out fans and cause them to think that the band was going to break up.
It's irritating how she never has any sense of decorum. Even Alica is smart enough not to hop on twitter right now, cause the only thing the fans want to hear right now is about Bob; you dumb slut.
"Oh! I'm sorry you feel my husband and his band just turned your whole world over but hey! Feel sorry for me cause I have a cold!"
Do you, like, think she's going to, like, get all of our names and addresses, like, you know, Jay and Silent Bob? And then, like, she'll, like, come to our houses, and like, beat the crap out of us? Like?
I bet little "Lady B" is gonna be REAL proud of her when she grows up.
Can't you just see it?
"Mommy, what's uncle Jimmy talking about? Is he talking about me? I'm five now, mommy, does uncle Jimmy want to see my panties?"
Later...
"Oh please mother, all of this coming from a woman who back-bends and shows her fucking underwear to the world for a living. Fuck off. What? I learned from you, mother. I'm your biggest fan."
Chuck Bass: 03/05/2010 3:36 AM People seriously expect the band to reveal the news behind Bob's departure? I don't think that the band owe that much honesty. Bob's leaving sounds quite personal, and i'm quite sure the men in the band and Bob would like to keep it that way.
And please, drummers come and go quite reguarly. Most will probably forget about Bob when this band replaces him for their other (and quite possibly last) studio albums. How many of you still mourn over Matt's departure? I'm guessing not too many of you.
I doubt Lindsey or any other person involved with that crew give a good goddamn what we say here. There are millions out there just like us, so if they sat around and took it all in, they wouldn't have even got as far as they have already. Please. Who are they to tell anyone what to say anyway? It's none of their business what our opinions are, no one is bothering them except those of you who choose to go bug them about us and this page...LOL
It's irritating how she never has any sense of decorum. Even Alica is smart enough not to hop on twitter right now, cause the only thing the fans want to hear right now is about Bob; you dumb slut.
"Oh! I'm sorry you feel my husband and his band just turned your whole world over but hey! Feel sorry for me cause I have a cold!"
Lousy insensitive bitch.
March 5, 2010 3:29 AM
I'm calling troll here. This makes absolutely no sense, and coupled with the "I'M TELLING!!!!!11111" troll, it seems like "look at how m34n they are and how unreasonable, too!"
There are a lot of really good points on this blog. If you read back to day one, people here have called just about every dumbass thing this crap band and their highfalutin (lmao) sexist, muscle car-drivin' LA posse were going to do. And have been there laughing at their pretentious, wannabe asses the entire time. Seriously, from day one, this blog has called it.
Then we get a bunch of trolls coming in to say really retarded things in an effort to make it look like we, well, haven't.
If you were sincere? Then, oh my god, over-react much?
Then we get a bunch of trolls coming in to say really retarded things in an effort to make it look like we, well, haven't.
Thank you so much for saying this. I've thought this many times in the past when people come here to say silly, petty things or to post ridiculous rumors from other places (case in point: the "Eliza was kill unborn babby" nonsense).
The people here are, for the most part, intelligent and insightful -- not petty, mean or vindictive like the fangirls would like to portray us.
I don't think Brian's being an attention whore. He had a joke going with Worm months and months ago about who had the most followers on twitter, and I think he probably finds it funny that his number has shot up since the Bob stuff happened. I know if that was me I'd be trolling the fuck out of them, so I actually think he's been pretty reserved.
At least he tipped everyone off beforehand so that the teenies weren't too suicidal.
I agree 10:55. He didn't have to say anything, and he even left it quite vague so people could read it how they liked.
Mostly I just get the impression he's sticking by yet another person who's been shat on by that band for apparently no good reason. I don't have the highest opinion of Bob myself, but Brian seems to hold things like friendship and loyalty in high regard. That's more than you could say for Gerard and what's left of MCR.
I don't blame Brian for wanting to watch and laugh as that whole band falls apart like a house of cards. That's pretty much what we do here, anyway.
No reason was given for the split, though according to Notifi Radio and others, Bryar left after "an argument of some sort ensued between [him] and the rest of the band."
That Rose girl who used to work for Frank at S//C is now tweeting Brian dozens of times and saying things like 'We have mutual haters in common'. Now THAT'S what I call an attention whore. She's slightly worrying.
LOL. The way Brian replied to her comment was hilarious. She's an idiot. What the fuck does she think he's going to do, invite her round for a cup of tea and a bitching session?
In a statement posted on MCR's official site, guitarist Frank Iero wrote that "as a band, we have been very fortunate over the years that our sweet times have greatly outweighed the sour ones, and a great deal of that is owed to you, the fans. Which is why we wanted this news to come from us and not some bullsh-- gossip site
I could kick that fucker in the nuts for that statement!
Bullshit gossip site? You stupid fucks could have told your precious fans that the CUNT-artwork artiste left your pathetic band long before that bullshit gossip site did. Because, you know what, your shitty band is in the public eye which means that people are going to report on band matters and that some journalists aren't waiting for you to feed them your lies and prepared answers and speeches so that the precious fans of yours are too distracted from you talking out of your ass that they won't notice what's really going on. Aww, too bad, Rumpelstilzchen. Someone in Bob's inner circle couldn't keep their trap shut and told the news to the right person.
I bet that if that bullshit gossip site wouldn't have spread the news the fans wouldn't have been informed about Bob no longer being a band member until they had noticed that, surprisingly, he's not in the band's pr pictures for the new album anymore which might as well be released some time next year or never.
On another note: REJOICE, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm gonna celebrate tonight!
Actually, Rose and I parted ways fairly recently and due to third party trouble-making; the stress just became too much for the both of us. She's discussed her issues with Frank since the day that I met her, so why would that have anything to do with the price of tea in China?
I have absolutely no interest communicating with her further, as evidenced by the fact that I have blocked her. Mutual friends were doing some lurking and reporting back, no doubt.
By the way, I never claimed to be a Pulitzer Prize winner. I write for webzines in my spare time, but I do take pride in what I turn in, hence the issue over "Casey." I at first assumed that "Casey" was defending the author's terrible fact-checking by passing pinning it all on S//C's error-ridden press release.
I assumed Rose' involvement simply because she unfollowed me not long after I questioned Casey, and because she frequently discusses the mismanagement she observed at S//C, so it made sense. It was a misunderstanding that got out of hand.
I find it rather curious that you all were so focused on what one (by your own admission) rather insignificant person has to say on their twitter, rather than the issue of feminism as a whole, or even what anyone else was posting on their twitter accounts, so I questioned it.
I will say this much: if both My Chem and MSI do end, that will finally set you all free to focus on more important issues in this world than them.
P.S.: Evidence that I'm "bonkers" or "hate everyone?" Just curious.
I will say this much: if both My Chem and MSI do end, that will finally set you all free to focus on more important issues in this world than them.
But I'm a little concerned about what you would do with your time then, Deb? No Frank Iero to defend anymore on the internet? Aww, I so hope for you that another asshole will be able to take his place then.
Deb, maybe you can go and focus on 'more important issues' yourself than coming here (again) to tell us that we have no right to be offended. Or maybe you can have another twitter meltdown over this bunch of 'insignificant' people. After all, if it means so little, why are YOU here?
I don't think Dstarpro is killing MCR, but fans like her and Voluptuosity are not helping. People need to be able to express their disappointment in MCR. They don't need to be told how they should feel or what makes a "good fan."
MCR fans have a reputation of being crazy, overly protective and intolerant of any divergent opinions, and whether they want to admit it or not, the way a band's fanbase is viewed has an effect on the way the band is seen by the general public. In essence, they are running off potential fans because they effect the band's image.
Dstarpro and her cohorts would be doing MCR more good if they would just chill.
Do you focus all of your time on MCR? Do they consume your entire life to the point where you don't have any other interests, hobbies or causes that you feel strongly about?
The reason I ask this is because you seem to spend quite a bit of your time on them. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that you devote your every waking moment to them.
What I'm getting at here is this: If you can divide your time between MCR and other interest/hobbies, then why do you think we are so immersed in this tiny blog that we don't have lives outside it as well?
Um, Deb, I really don't care about your relationship with Rose or what you think about us. If you're really that desperate to voice your opinion then may I suggest a blog? Then I won't be bored by you.
I'm actually not an idiot and wasn't expecting anything from Brian. I actually tried to commend him on his ark comments and how he was handling people but he didn't seem to care. He knows who our mutual haters are, I never liked him so...I just ended it there. I'm very much though, not an idiot. I have supported this blog to many people because I like that you have it. So...whatever..And I don't care about my relationship w/ Deb either...she's hopeless.
I agree w/ a lot of you here but can't really be here talking about it because I'm not going through the shit I've been through before.
Carry on though...even if you think I'm an idiot. Never did anything to any of you.
Not everyone here thinks you are an idiot, Rose. Not everyone here is as quick to overreact to people's twitters. Don't judge us all by what one or two people say.
Oh I see you were replying to 11:58 and 12:06. It could have been made by one or two people but I don't think it reflects on the majority view here Rose. I don't think you are an idiot.
i dont give a shit on deb/rose/casey, in fact i dont even know who the fuck they are.
to me they come across as those MCR-moms (caliw, ravenblackhardt,anotherway,etc...) who claim to have inside connection with the band just because they're older than the average fans.
plus, it's funny that they feel the need to come and explain themselves here, where nobody gives a fuck.
I don't care if they have inside connections or not. I have my opinions and I resent the ones that come here trying to tell us how to think. I will call anyone out who says idiotic things and so far I don't think Rose has.
I can think of about a dozen or more fans from lj who used to pull that "inside connection" routine. I guess they're everywhere. They're always older and always condescending, but at the same time, they're also some of the worst fansheep who seem to have a hero-worship thing going on, usually for either Gerard or Frank.
i apologize for making you think i meant all of you. i def. don't mean that. i know there are some very smart people here. i also don't expect everyone to know or care who i am...i just want those of you who are the more reasonable few to understand why i don't come here and say too much. i really think you're all pretty amazing for having the decency to have your own place to vent this shit. i'd have to say all of the fun times i can recall with this band all happened before i got involved...since all of that and seeing things, i've moved on to other things and think you guys are doing the smart thing by keeping it here and not trolling the vicious fansites. you're a decent lot. i enjoy reading this blog.
Actually Rose has never come here and told us to move on or called anyone here fangirls. That would be Deb. She like to pop in here so she can catch up on her band that saved her life and tells us that we need to go out there and live our life. LOL!
I have no problems with you Rose. I have a pretty good idea of the type of things you have gone through when trying to speak your mind about S//C. In some people's minds it's just now allowed to speak ill of anything that has to do with the deified members of MCR.
Honestly, I wouldn't even have problems with the fangirls like your ex-buddy Deb either, if not for the fact that she and her ilk feel the need to go around telling other fans how to act and how to feel and essentially how to be a 'proper' My Chem fan.
If Deb wants to think that Gerard Way is responsible for placing the moon and stars in their respective positions, I have no problem with that. I just don't want her telling me or anyone else how to react to the things this band has done over the last few years. She's got no right to criticize the people on lj for acting 'entitled' either.
People react the way they react. They feel the way they feel. Nothing she or any of the other fansheep say is going to change that.
Deb and Rose: stop using this place as your personal battleground between each other. Take that shit back to Twitter or somewhere else.
Rose: For someone you 'never liked' you sure seemed to be asking Brian a lot of questions about his plants. I've just looked at your Twitter following what was posted up there, and I have to say it's pretty creepy. Most of your time is taken up watching old MCR videos and interviews and going on about how 'triggered' you are by them or how 'wonderful' those moments were. You seem to be very much still emotionally invested in them, despite what you say here and elsewhere. I wish you luck with that, but really, you're coming across as badly as your old friend is.
I had a look to see what she'd been saying to Brian, as someone else had mentioned it, yes. You couldn't miss the fact that most of the tweets in a four hour period were about MCR. Hardly 'stalked', wouldn't you say?
1:37, the twitter squabbling between the two women on this page has been discussed already. Other people have made comments on their tweets. It's not really stalking to read their pages once or twice. They're not that important, despite what they think.
I think we should talk about much more interesting things like when My Stoopid Romance are finally going to finish their 'honest' album and when the damn thing will be released.
I think he should wear his hawaiian shirt for the new album cover to herald the "new" MCR. Come to think about it, they should all look like hobos. It's the opposite of emo and a good marketing ploy.
Teah, right! CL can't read and do you really think she'd give a shit about what we say about MCR/MSI. Frances is another matter - but she hasn't seen the kid in ages so........
LOL I don't think Rose is anything like Deb and I think the one using this as their battleground was Deb. All she does is come here to tell people what to do. I follow Rose on Twitter and I thought she was just reminding people of when she thought MCR were okay...kind of like that. The funny part is she only seemed to enjoy them when they were drunk or talking about porn.
And CL definitely doesn't not read this...she can hardly remember her own name. LOL. Who cares?
Like someone else said previously...One down, four to go! I raise my glass...to the beginning of the end!
Meh, Rose strikes me as very deluded. That comment she made to Deb where she acts like Deb only followed her 'because of who she was'. Like, really, who the fuck are you, Rose? Someone Frank once used to sell shitty merch to teenagers? They're just one big bunch of batshit, and that's the reason I don't go onto fan forums or LJ anymore.
Selling band merch, cutting hair or not knowing how to play your instrument is a sure fire way to become an MCR wife. Maybe not the cutting hair so much.
Rose is a nutbag. I know this from personal experience of her. The reason she got the boot from S//C was because she was like another Crazy Nat in the making.
I've had my dealings with Rose 5.45, and I'm going to just leave it at that, since she's probably 'stalking' this page herself now (Hi Rose!! Hi!!! *waves*). Let's just say she is emotionally unstable, as passive aggressive as you can get, and still very much obsessed with Frank Iero.
And I don't think she'll be getting into any MCR shows anytime soon.
Can we please not turn this into some back and forth anon fight that doesn't make any sense to anyone but the people involved? I'd rather this place not become a mirror of that "place that shall not be named," okay?
Like I said, you can believe what you want. Doesn't change the fact that from my POV with what I know, Rose is bad news.
Doesn't matter what you know, because we don't know anything and we'll make up our own minds. Or are you another of those MCR do-gooder fans that insists on telling everyone how they should think about someone.
I didn't make the comment about her, but I think that poster means the Crazy Nat was an Australian MCR fan. She followed the band on tour all over Europe. She got to meet them a lot and once wrote an account of how she broke down in tears to Gerard at a meet and greet when she'd told him how he'd saved her life. She used to buy the guys loads of presents and stuff too, and pretty much got added to the guest lists for sold out shows.
Then the word is that she went a bit too far and tried to kiss Frank on the lips while getting a hug, and also get a bit too close to Bob or something. There are various versions. I've heard some people say that she whispered something into Frank's ear along the lines of 'I'm going to have you oneday'. Some say that Alicia was creeped out by her and asked for her to be banned. Anyway, long story short, she was banned by Worm because he found out that her and her friends had been following the tour bus convoy down the motorways in England when he'd given her a verbal warning to stay away from the band when she wasn't actually in the audience at a show.
LOL I wish I did. I'm sure it's been elaborated and stretched here and there, but it's true. It was all over LJ at one point, but this happened years ago, mind.
I think that bands like MCR bring this on to themselves due to having those stupid street teams which give you the opportunity to meet your idols by promoting them in a certain way. I think someone here or somewhere else explained that you have to earn 'points' or something like that and that if you earned a lot you will be rewarded by meeting them backstage etc. That would explain why so many nutcases got the opportunity to meet them so many times. Of course they would do anything. They would plaster a whole city with band flyers only to show their unconditional support.
In the past, a lot more. Since they've gotten bigger and post-Eliza I think you'd be lucky if you ever got into a meet and greet that wasn't a prize for some competition.
No, but how she managed to meet Gerard originally was following the band around on tour and hanging out by the tourbus until he'd come out to chat with fans. I don't think the band would ever do that again, tbh.
the mcrmy has this mentality that they think together with mcr, they can take over the world.
does anyone remember when they plan to write a petition to russian government when it was rumored that russia wants to make emo/goth music illegal? seriously, who the fuck will listen to whiny teen emo bitches???
and lets not forget the daily mail (failed) protest which was the most embarassing mcrmy moment ever.
I remember that girl (the one you called 'crazy Nat'. I think her name on lj is cookiedough or something like that? She used to have another name but it's been so long ago I can't remember it. But I didn't know she was Australian. I thought she was British.
I remember that when I used to comment on the German messageboard of the official German MCR website ages ago that Warner was looking for fans working for them i. e. being mods, admins or even some kind of webmaster for the site. For free, of course. I was outraged by this and wrote an e-mail to Warner Germany. Then I called Warner because I had the feeling that they wanted to exploit the fans and surprisingly I had the exact same person on the phone who was responsible for this. He said that this is not unusual and that many fans do such things for other artists as well. Also, they would get merch for free etc. I couldn't believe this. I mean, why can't they give them the same money that they would give an intern in addition to the free merch? I think this is exploitation.
Crazy Nat was an Australian national but she moved to the UK and hung out with the uber-scary British girls who follow the band from venue to venue when they tour there.
Oh, I found an interesting bulletin from BN of her today.
==========Bulletin Message========= From: elizacuts Date: 08/14/2008 7:43 PM Subject: Dear Buzznet (please do not open if you are under the age of 18 due to offensive language)
Dear Buzznet,
I sent you a few letters over a month ago about a death threat that my assistant found while going through a few thousand emails here on my Buzznet page. She was instructed while she was going through my emails to delete anything that was negative and to only give me the positive emails to reply to. She was also told by me that anything that would count as a threat to my safety and well being was to be turned into me and I would contact a member of your staff to take the appropriate action. Out of the thousands of emails that I had only one was negative enough that I figured deserved your attention. I sent it to you the day that we opened it, I also called 3 members of your staff on that day. One member directed me to the person that would handle such and email (I was very happy that there is such a person) and I wrote that person that same day. I sent all of the information that was needed to take care of the situation and gave various ways to contact me including my email ect. Weeks have passed and I have had no reply to the emails that I sent and have gotten no return phone calls about the matter. See the thing is that I do know that this was probably a joke, although it would be in poor taste, I love a good joke as much as the next guy. I also do know that the persons profile says that they are underage but the problem lies in the fact that this is indeed the internet and anyone can say that they are anyone at any given time. I hope that this person is not serious and I do hope that this is not a cover for a person that might have the funds and the means to actually find me and kill me. It would be a shame if I had warned of such a thing and nothing had been done about it and I ended up dead over something that could have been prevented. I do hope that you guys can find the time and the man power to take care of this. Thank you for your time. ( At the end of this email you will find the email that was sent to me, please do not read down any further if you are under 18 or easily offended.)
Eliza Siep
Death Threat Law & Legal Definition
Under state criminal codes, which vary by state, it is an offense to knowingly utter or convey a threat to cause death or bodily harm to any person. It is also an offense to threaten to burn, destroy or damage property or threaten to kill, poison or injure an animal or bird that belongs to a person. In California, for example, political science teacher Michael Ballou started a furor over his "kill the president" e-mail assignment. Ballou, who teaches Introduction to Government at Santa Rosa Junior College's Petaluma campus caught the attention of both the U.S. Secret Service and the FBI when a student told his mother about the homework assignment and she in turn called the FBI. Another student e-mailed "kill the president, kill the president" to the office of U.S. Rep. Mike Thompson, D- Napa Valley, in Washington D.C. and Thompson's office, who contacted police prior to the Secret Service getting involved.
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Why do the people on BN insist that Bob left MCR because of his wrists? Everything about this (including the way 'Frank's' blog was worded) makes me think they weren't getting along. But, thing is, I don't know that for sure so I'm not going to say it like it's fact.
how stupid when people think bob left because of his wrist. FFS,even the most brutal orthopedics injury will heal in 2 years, so how long has it been since his wrist injury anyway?
It is better for people to pretend that it was because of his wrist, because the other quite possible reason is that Gerard/the band have kicked him out, or Warner has. The fansheep don't want to consider those things.
what is this i heard about frank is going to have twins
Wouldn't it be funny if a few years from now some guy would tweet about 'two pricks' ruining some shitty movie experience for him and that he wishes their mother has sat on a coathanger? Only difference would be that this time the 'two pricks' would be Frank's own kids.
When I read about all these obsessive fans constantly following them or actually getting involved with them, like Eliza, it just seems so off putting. Why would you want to be married to these guys with this sort of stuff happening a lot of the time. I'm so glad I can have a normal relationship with someone, without this bullshit.
does anyone here a member of mcrmy and actually did the promoting before? im just curious to know what the 'job decription' is like. -------------------------------------
I was. This was at the time when I was still a fairly new fan, and before I heard about how crazy the mcrmy was. Basically it was a street team where they'd give out these missions that involved spreading the word about the band, such as giving out flyers they would send you in the mail about LOTMS and posting links and videos and such on various social websites, etc etc etc, and if you accomplished your mission within a certain time limit, they would reward you with free stuff, and you'd gained points and what not.
Then when the band was working on the Black Parade, they would give out stickers saying "We are the Black Parade" blah blah blah. I tried giving them out, but no one wanted them, so I tossed them aside. I was starting to get really bored with the street team thing, so not too long after that, I lost interest in it.
One other thing about the mcrmy missions was that even if one member had accomplished a mission in a timely matter, not everyone would be awarded, so pretty much some of the fans would had wasted their time and effort for nothing.
I had that happened to me a couple of times or so.
I can tell you that the city I live in worked us street teamers to the core. We were told that if we plastered the city with stickers, flyers ect & took photographic evidence of this vandalism that 12 of us would be rewarded with a private meeting backstage. (This was a radio show so backstage means over by the buses.) My friend was desperate to meet the band and I didn't mind taking pictures of her putting up stickers. If my name was attached good for me. Anyway, we were one of the tweleve. This was in April of 07 and Eliza and Alisha were both at this show. We were put in a line and told that we would be going through this tent thing where we could get autographs. We were not allowed to take pictures at all. Worm was pretty much yelling at anyone who even had their camera in plain sight. We went through the line and Bob and Frank were the only two who didn't act like they were being forced to do this. Gerard literally shook people's fingers and mumbled a thank you. He high taled it back to the bus without a thank you or a goodbye. Ray, Bob and Frank stuck around and talked to everyone. Gerard was a total ass hat to all of us. Some girls were crying because he wouldn't even look at them, and he apparantly told Worm to usher us out as soon as everyone's autographs had been signed. It was after that I had a total change of heart where MCR (gerard in particular) were concerned.
one of the local clubs had an all age show for them when they came through my city... they were all drunk but they where really surprised that people actually stayed behind to meet them back then this was then they all seemed genuine
your story is so familiar to me 6:00. i met the band way back when they were thrilled they even had fans, but the last time i had passes gerard wouldn't even come out and neither would mikey. this was when he was with eliza. frank and ray were the only ones who seemed to give a crap. bob was nice too but not as much as the other two. at the time i blamed eliza because i couldn't accept that gerard had changed so much. i know now that he was just showing his true personality.
Back in the spring of 07 you could meet the band by defending Eliza on fansites, as long as she found out about it. Those girls were the only ones that Gerard was even halfway civil to.
and it seems like gerard never regained his old gratitude. i think it was genuine, years ago. but recently it seems like he thinks he's too big a deal to treat the people who buy his crap with respect. i bet he'll change his tune once mcr is down the drain.
Gerard was arrogant as fuck when i met him. He didnt even took his stupid Ray-Ban off (the signing took place in a building btw) and didnt even bother to look up from his sketch book. He just shake everyone's hand lightly and sign whatever he needs to w/o even looking at our faces. My friend jokingly asked if the reason he refused to take off his glasses was because he's tired of the fans and he replied "maybe". Seriously WTF.
can't blame the guy for being tired of fans when they're mostly half witted screaming teenage girls. also can't hold being half honest against him. i just think he's forgotten the basic concept that yes while they're annoying they pay your bills and without them to buy your music and comics you'd have to get a regular job. he doesn't have to be best friends with them just be thankful for what they've done for him. idk i just think its weird that the fans thank him and the band more than they do the fans. doesn't seem right.
and it seems like gerard never regained his old gratitude. i think it was genuine, years ago. but recently it seems like he thinks he's too big a deal to treat the people who buy his crap with respect. i bet he'll change his tune once mcr is down the drain.
Years ago he was probably naive and idealistic. Now he seems embittered by the whole business.
If Gerard is embittered by the music business, maybe it's time for him to get out.
He has his comic book success now, and that's what he originally wanted ti do with his life so I can't imagine why he would continue on with music unless, like others have said, the band is just fulfilling their contractual obligations right now.
No, I think Gerard sees himself as the next Billy Corgan, Billie Joe, or Brandon Flowers. He just hates the fact that most of his fans are fickle teenage girls.
No, I think Gerard sees himself as the next Billy Corgan, Billie Joe, or Brandon Flowers.
If that's what he wants then he's never going to get it. Gerard will never earn the kind of respect in the music business that those guys have had. MCR is seen by so many as a gimmick band, what with the matching band outfits and even before that, the suit and tie and white makeup and armband crap they wore during the Helena period. Seriously, pull up one of the pictures from that era and they just look so ridiculous and dated.
Fans will tell you that MCR is 'all about the music', but it's never just been about the music with them. It's been about 'saving lives', costumes, makeup and image and no matter how hard Gerard tries to blame all that on somebody else (Brian, Warner, etc.) it all goes back to him and the vision that he had for the band. It's going to be too hard to leave that behind.
I'm not saying I agree with the person who wrote that blog. I don't think you can judge a band's music unless you listen to it. However, I don't really think that's what he (she?) is doing. I think he's just saying that the band's image is so ridiculous that he can't even force himself to give them a listen.
Unfortunately for MCR, there are a lot of people out there who feel the same.
^ yep, thats what i thought too.must be due to mcr and their BS "we saved your life" propaganda. bleurgh.
Isn't it funny that fans still identify with MCR's old message about saving lives but don't seem to remember their old message about fighting sexism/misogyny anymore?
If that's what he wants then he's never going to get it. Gerard will never earn the kind of respect in the music business that those guys have had. MCR is seen by so many as a gimmick band, what with the matching band outfits and even before that, the suit and tie and white makeup and armband crap they wore during the Helena period. Seriously, pull up one of the pictures from that era and they just look so ridiculous and dated.
Fans will tell you that MCR is 'all about the music', but it's never just been about the music with them. It's been about 'saving lives', costumes, makeup and image and no matter how hard Gerard tries to blame all that on somebody else (Brian, Warner, etc.) it all goes back to him and the vision that he had for the band. It's going to be too hard to leave that behind.
I have to say that that's exactly what I found so interesting about them and so exciting. I was actually getting bored to see all those brit poppers and indie bands looking like hobos or smelly university students who slept in their clothes and just got up to shuffle off to class. I'm a New Romantics fan and I was really excited to see a band who was theatrical again and whose band members weren't afraid to wear makeup (if it was applied by a pro, not Eliza or Gerard himself!). I just think that TBP was too much. It really should have been their fifth album instead of their third. Image- and theatrical-wise, of course. If Gerard wouldn't be so insecure and wouldn't always want to please the wrong people they could have become pioneers in their own genre. I wouldn't have called them emo but gothic punk-pop. I think it's more the fans who are emo or assimilated the emo look.
I think stubbornness pays. They would have found their niche if they had stayed the way they were and I think they would have been successful. I guess that when you change your image that often people just can smell your insecurity. It's just like with dogs who smell your fear or kids who find out who's the weakest member of the clique. You then become an easy victim. They eat you alive or look down on you and will never see you as their peer again.
I think stubbornness pays. They would have found their niche if they had stayed the way they were and I think they would have been successful.
I think that's true. The people who loved the costumes and the makeup are unhappy with the fact that Gerard is now trashing the Black Parade era and he's not likely to bring in the audience he wants because, no matter how much he trashes it, those people aren't going to give MCR a chance because of the Black Parade era.
All he's succeeded in doing is to turn MCR into a joke.
All of you remind me of a lynch mob. You're going to hate on this band no matter what they do, just for the sake of hating.
You hate them for dressing up in costumes and wearing makeup, but you hate them for turning their backs on that. You hate them for not being honest, but when they are honest you don't like what they have to say.
They cannot win with you people. You have to have your pound of flesh from them no matter what.
People like you are killing this band and when they are dead, you'll spit on their corpse and dance on their grave.
You hate them for dressing up in costumes and wearing makeup, but you hate them for turning their backs on that. You hate them for not being honest, but when they are honest you don't like what they have to say.
Believe it or not, there's more than one person commenting on this blog. And not everyone here always agrees on specifics.
If anybody is killing this band, it's the band itself.
The fangirls want to blame Warner, Brian, MSI and now us -- anybody they can think of to deflect the blame from where it belongs: squarely on the shoulders of the band members themselves.
People like you are killing this band and when they are dead, you'll spit on their corpse and dance on their grave.
How can we actually be killing this band? This band is more than capable of doing that all by themselves. We are simply having a discussion on a blog. If you don't like that, don't read here.
You hate them for dressing up in costumes and wearing makeup, but you hate them for turning their backs on that. You hate them for not being honest, but when they are honest you don't like what they have to say.
When are they honest. When they tell young girls to go "fuck themselves" or when they think it's a hoot for a female to get punched in the face?
People like you are killing this band and when they are dead, you'll spit on their corpse and dance on their grave.
Sweetie, the only thing that kills a band is when they can't sell their music anymore or they can't pull enough interest for a tour. If the band loathe their teenage fans and want a different set, they still have to produce the goods to attract them and make them want to purchase their music. Blaming fans is akin to blaming victims, the band is responsible for their own demise if it happens.
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news to me 8.05 but i wouldn't be surprised.. Bob's wife and Jamia seem to be the only ones who can keep their mouths shut
Jamia just hates all of the fans so she hides like she's some sort of HUGE celeb's wife...she has a Jackie O complex.
What about Christa, 8:16?
To be honest, 8:29, if that is true I don't really blame her. MCR have some crazy fans.
This is going back to the post about S//C and that blog...I love Casey. Whoever you are Casey...You got that place sorted out and you said all the right things.
Okay sorry for that interruption, I just needed to say that after reading that.
i don't really know.. Christa has a twitter achount, and while i'm not saying she's like ALicia there's the possibility it can show with the account
They truly think these guys are the salt of the earth and don't do any drugs, when those in the know KNOW Frank smokes weed, pops pills...and Mikey...probably more so than Frank. Oh and Gerard drinks.
Lol. Even people not in "the know" know that. It's completely friggin' obvious.
I've not heard anything about Alicia causing trouble. Sorry. Maybe she's dealing to Mikey and giving him the clap again.......
i think it says a lot if mcr losing a member doesn't even cause a significant uproar here. though maybe it's cos we were predicting it for so long
Bob's departure is going to hurt them with the fans, that's for sure. Even the most die hard MCR fans are confused, upset and angry because they realize they were lied to. Gerard's voice was never an issue (other then the fact that he can't sing) they just weren't prepared to go to the shows without Bob and no explanation for why he wasn't there. The fans are realizing that the band is falling apart one piece at a time. It's like a domino effect. First Bob then someone else. Before they know it Gerard will be recording a solo record. The band is finished. From this point on all they are doing is going through the motions and finishing out their contracts. I'd say Bob was smart to jump ship before it sinks completely.
i know everyones been saying matt cortez might replace bob but what about james dewees? he drums for leathermouth. but that would mean they would have to give up having live keyboards or find another keyboardist
Have you seen Brian's tweets? Tell me that man is NOT an attention whore??
Of course, Brian simply loves all the attention.
i don't see where he's recently whoring any more attention than he used to?
You mean this?
"I actually let a money tree die and I don't make any money. Coincidence? I think not. What should I do for a career? I'm bored."
iamjustbrian
Or his tweets to Cortez?
Some fans seem to think that it wasn't a case of the band lying, but a case of them not wanting to dish out a load of bad news at once, ie. better to say Gerard's vocals were under strain and reveal Bob was leaving a while later, so as not to stress out fans and cause them to think that the band was going to break up.
You've got to admire their unwavering optimism.
Wonder if it has to do with Bobs wrist problem...although Franks message does make it appear to be more than that.
im begining to wonder if bob's wrists got worse.. like they were fine and then after a while of playing they got bad again
lingering cold- fuck off! we hung out, got to know each other and now im over you. infect someone else please. just not my family, ok
lynzoid's new tweet
http://www.buzznet.com/www/search/photos/my%20chemical%20romance/?id=84646861
lol
It's irritating how she never has any sense of decorum. Even Alica is smart enough not to hop on twitter right now, cause the only thing the fans want to hear right now is about Bob; you dumb slut.
"Oh! I'm sorry you feel my husband and his band just turned your whole world over but hey! Feel sorry for me cause I have a cold!"
Lousy insensitive bitch.
lingering cold- fuck off! we hung out, got to know each other and now im over you. infect someone else please. just not my family, ok
lynzoid's new tweet
Who cares!
i just tweeted lyn-z about all of u haters! she'll fix this and u!
i just tweeted lyn-z about all of u haters! she'll fix this and u!
Oooo mrs chicken arm is so scarily.
Yeah, like what 3:50. She's an idiot.
holy shit 3.50 actually did!!!
kyo_4_lynz @lynzway stop them! please! and please feel better! we all luv u lyn-z!
10 minutes ago from web
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kyo_4_lynz @lynzway u need 2 no what these mean girls r saying so u can prove them wrong! http://veritavenom.blogspot.com/
honey you need to grow up. Lynz's not gonna give a shit. and its not like her lable or Gerard's lable have any power to shut this place down
For later if she reads...
Hi Lynzoid, we think you're a fucking idiot.
xoxo - crisp eater
@lynzway i luv u lyn-z!!! i got this account just 4 u!!
by the way 3.50's.. well let the tweet speak for itself:
@lynzway i luv u lyn-z!!! i got this account just 4 u!!
Lol.
*waves to Dense-Z*
Do you, like, think she's going to, like, get all of our names and addresses, like, you know, Jay and Silent Bob? And then, like, she'll, like, come to our houses, and like, beat the crap out of us? Like?
http://twitter.com/kyo_4_lynz
Yeah, and Lindsey, why is only the stupid ditsy fangirls like you, huh?
Like attracts like, or so they say.
Kyo eh?
Goody, hope she visits. I can sing her some Panty Shot lyrics to make her feel right at home.
Maybe she'll get her manly husband to say harsh words to us. LOL!
I bet little "Lady B" is gonna be REAL proud of her when she grows up.
Can't you just see it?
"Mommy, what's uncle Jimmy talking about? Is he talking about me? I'm five now, mommy, does uncle Jimmy want to see my panties?"
Later...
"Oh please mother, all of this coming from a woman who back-bends and shows her fucking underwear to the world for a living. Fuck off. What? I learned from you, mother. I'm your biggest fan."
Like attracts like, or so they say.
Dense attracts dense.
Brian and Cortez are friends. How is he being an attention whore by tweeting him?
Chuck Bass: 03/05/2010 3:36 AM
People seriously expect the band to reveal the news behind Bob's departure? I don't think that the band owe that much honesty. Bob's leaving sounds quite personal, and i'm quite sure the men in the band and Bob would like to keep it that way.
And please, drummers come and go quite reguarly. Most will probably forget about Bob when this band replaces him for their other (and quite possibly last) studio albums. How many of you still mourn over Matt's departure? I'm guessing not too many of you.
someone who makes sense
Why are so many fans so convinced that it was Bob's decision to leave the band? Also, they all just assume that it had to do with his wrist problem.
From the article that broke the news and also the tone and wording on the MCR blog, I get the feeling that the departure was not amicable.
I think Brian knows the fans are watching him closer now he is open friends with Bob. I hope the band are squirming about it, too.
I think Brian knows the fans are watching him closer now he is open friends with Bob. I hope the band are squirming about it, too.
I think you guys will get a kick out of this article's take on Bob's departure.
"When translated from the musicians' euphemism handbook, the statement means they got sick of each other."
good laughs
I doubt Lindsey or any other person involved with that crew give a good goddamn what we say here. There are millions out there just like us, so if they sat around and took it all in, they wouldn't have even got as far as they have already. Please. Who are they to tell anyone what to say anyway? It's none of their business what our opinions are, no one is bothering them except those of you who choose to go bug them about us and this page...LOL
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It's irritating how she never has any sense of decorum. Even Alica is smart enough not to hop on twitter right now, cause the only thing the fans want to hear right now is about Bob; you dumb slut.
"Oh! I'm sorry you feel my husband and his band just turned your whole world over but hey! Feel sorry for me cause I have a cold!"
Lousy insensitive bitch.
March 5, 2010 3:29 AM
I'm calling troll here. This makes absolutely no sense, and coupled with the "I'M TELLING!!!!!11111" troll, it seems like "look at how m34n they are and how unreasonable, too!"
There are a lot of really good points on this blog. If you read back to day one, people here have called just about every dumbass thing this crap band and their highfalutin (lmao) sexist, muscle car-drivin' LA posse were going to do. And have been there laughing at their pretentious, wannabe asses the entire time. Seriously, from day one, this blog has called it.
Then we get a bunch of trolls coming in to say really retarded things in an effort to make it look like we, well, haven't.
If you were sincere? Then, oh my god, over-react much?
However, pretty sure you're just a troll.
I'm interested how exactly Lyn-Z will prove this blog "wrong."
By learning to play bass maybe?
Seriously, from day one, this blog has called it.
Then we get a bunch of trolls coming in to say really retarded things in an effort to make it look like we, well, haven't.
Thank you so much for saying this. I've thought this many times in the past when people come here to say silly, petty things or to post ridiculous rumors from other places (case in point: the "Eliza was kill unborn babby" nonsense).
The people here are, for the most part, intelligent and insightful -- not petty, mean or vindictive like the fangirls would like to portray us.
You just said it better than I did. :)
yeah, that's just it, it's like a smokescreen. "I'll pretend to be one of you and act like a fangirl" kind of thing.
I don't think Brian's being an attention whore. He had a joke going with Worm months and months ago about who had the most followers on twitter, and I think he probably finds it funny that his number has shot up since the Bob stuff happened. I know if that was me I'd be trolling the fuck out of them, so I actually think he's been pretty reserved.
At least he tipped everyone off beforehand so that the teenies weren't too suicidal.
I agree 10:55. He didn't have to say anything, and he even left it quite vague so people could read it how they liked.
Mostly I just get the impression he's sticking by yet another person who's been shat on by that band for apparently no good reason. I don't have the highest opinion of Bob myself, but Brian seems to hold things like friendship and loyalty in high regard. That's more than you could say for Gerard and what's left of MCR.
I don't blame Brian for wanting to watch and laugh as that whole band falls apart like a house of cards. That's pretty much what we do here, anyway.
No reason was given for the split, though according to Notifi Radio and others, Bryar left after "an argument of some sort ensued between [him] and the rest of the band."
MTV news
That Rose girl who used to work for Frank at S//C is now tweeting Brian dozens of times and saying things like 'We have mutual haters in common'. Now THAT'S what I call an attention whore. She's slightly worrying.
LOL. The way Brian replied to her comment was hilarious. She's an idiot. What the fuck does she think he's going to do, invite her round for a cup of tea and a bitching session?
In a statement posted on MCR's official site, guitarist Frank Iero wrote that "as a band, we have been very fortunate over the years that our sweet times have greatly outweighed the sour ones, and a great deal of that is owed to you, the fans. Which is why we wanted this news to come from us and not some bullsh-- gossip site
I could kick that fucker in the nuts for that statement!
Bullshit gossip site? You stupid fucks could have told your precious fans that the CUNT-artwork artiste left your pathetic band long before that bullshit gossip site did. Because, you know what, your shitty band is in the public eye which means that people are going to report on band matters and that some journalists aren't waiting for you to feed them your lies and prepared answers and speeches so that the precious fans of yours are too distracted from you talking out of your ass that they won't notice what's really going on.
Aww, too bad, Rumpelstilzchen. Someone in Bob's inner circle couldn't keep their trap shut and told the news to the right person.
I bet that if that bullshit gossip site wouldn't have spread the news the fans wouldn't have been informed about Bob no longer being a band member until they had noticed that, surprisingly, he's not in the band's pr pictures for the new album anymore which might as well be released some time next year or never.
On another note: REJOICE, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm gonna celebrate tonight!
One down, four to go!
Name's Deb.
Actually, Rose and I parted ways fairly recently and due to third party trouble-making; the stress just became too much for the both of us. She's discussed her issues with Frank since the day that I met her, so why would that have anything to do with the price of tea in China?
I have absolutely no interest communicating with her further, as evidenced by the fact that I have blocked her. Mutual friends were doing some lurking and reporting back, no doubt.
By the way, I never claimed to be a Pulitzer Prize winner. I write for webzines in my spare time, but I do take pride in what I turn in, hence the issue over "Casey." I at first assumed that "Casey" was defending the author's terrible fact-checking by passing pinning it all on S//C's error-ridden press release.
I assumed Rose' involvement simply because she unfollowed me not long after I questioned Casey, and because she frequently discusses the mismanagement she observed at S//C, so it made sense. It was a misunderstanding that got out of hand.
I find it rather curious that you all were so focused on what one (by your own admission) rather insignificant person has to say on their twitter, rather than the issue of feminism as a whole, or even what anyone else was posting on their twitter accounts, so I questioned it.
I will say this much: if both My Chem and MSI do end, that will finally set you all free to focus on more important issues in this world than them.
P.S.: Evidence that I'm "bonkers" or "hate everyone?" Just curious.
I will say this much: if both My Chem and MSI do end, that will finally set you all free to focus on more important issues in this world than them.
But I'm a little concerned about what you would do with your time then, Deb? No Frank Iero to defend anymore on the internet? Aww, I so hope for you that another asshole will be able to take his place then.
Deb, maybe you can go and focus on 'more important issues' yourself than coming here (again) to tell us that we have no right to be offended. Or maybe you can have another twitter meltdown over this bunch of 'insignificant' people. After all, if it means so little, why are YOU here?
Dstarpro: the cancer that is slowly killing MCR.
I don't think Dstarpro is killing MCR, but fans like her and Voluptuosity are not helping. People need to be able to express their disappointment in MCR. They don't need to be told how they should feel or what makes a "good fan."
MCR fans have a reputation of being crazy, overly protective and intolerant of any divergent opinions, and whether they want to admit it or not, the way a band's fanbase is viewed has an effect on the way the band is seen by the general public. In essence, they are running off potential fans because they effect the band's image.
Dstarpro and her cohorts would be doing MCR more good if they would just chill.
I would like to ask Dstarpro a question:
Do you focus all of your time on MCR? Do they consume your entire life to the point where you don't have any other interests, hobbies or causes that you feel strongly about?
The reason I ask this is because you seem to spend quite a bit of your time on them. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that you devote your every waking moment to them.
What I'm getting at here is this: If you can divide your time between MCR and other interest/hobbies, then why do you think we are so immersed in this tiny blog that we don't have lives outside it as well?
Or, are you projecting your own behavior onto us?
Um, Deb, I really don't care about your relationship with Rose or what you think about us. If you're really that desperate to voice your opinion then may I suggest a blog? Then I won't be bored by you.
I think you should read this very interesting article. It's not about MCR, it's about feminism.
I will say this much: if both My Chem and MSI do end, that will finally set you all free to focus on more important issues in this world than them.
First of all, anyone acting like a sexist ass is a real issue, especially if they do so under the flag of feminism.
Second, why do people assume that this blog is anyone's only focus, to the exclusion of "real" issues?
So, how about this: Why don't you focus on "real issues" instead of, oh, say, this blog?
By the way? I've never heard of your ass before. Am I supposed to have?
Google her.
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By the way? I've never heard of your ass before. Am I supposed to have?
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LMFAO! Fans are really self important. Especially MCR fans.
There's no better way to deflate a wanna be web star.
Thanks, but I don't feel like googling you. Just because I don't know who you are, doesn't mean I wish to find out.
I'm actually not an idiot and wasn't expecting anything from Brian. I actually tried to commend him on his ark comments and how he was handling people but he didn't seem to care. He knows who our mutual haters are, I never liked him so...I just ended it there. I'm very much though, not an idiot. I have supported this blog to many people because I like that you have it. So...whatever..And I don't care about my relationship w/ Deb either...she's hopeless.
I agree w/ a lot of you here but can't really be here talking about it because I'm not going through the shit I've been through before.
Carry on though...even if you think I'm an idiot. Never did anything to any of you.
Not everyone here thinks you are an idiot, Rose. Not everyone here is as quick to overreact to people's twitters. Don't judge us all by what one or two people say.
Oh I see you were replying to 11:58 and 12:06. It could have been made by one or two people but I don't think it reflects on the majority view here Rose. I don't think you are an idiot.
When I see the comments made by 6:15 and 6:17 I can see that the majority here are reasonably objective.
You will always have someone posting something outrageous or occasionally extreme, but that only serves to show the diversity of opinions.
I also noted that anything extremely malicious is quickly extinguished here by the ones with common sense.
Rose you don't come across as an idiot so please don't imply that we all think you are because it's not true.
i dont give a shit on deb/rose/casey, in fact i dont even know who the fuck they are.
to me they come across as those MCR-moms (caliw, ravenblackhardt,anotherway,etc...) who claim to have inside connection with the band just because they're older than the average fans.
plus, it's funny that they feel the need to come and explain themselves here, where nobody gives a fuck.
I don't care if they have inside connections or not. I have my opinions and I resent the ones that come here trying to tell us how to think. I will call anyone out who says idiotic things and so far I don't think Rose has.
Wow, I don't know who any of these people are. O_o
I can think of about a dozen or more fans from lj who used to pull that "inside connection" routine. I guess they're everywhere. They're always older and always condescending, but at the same time, they're also some of the worst fansheep who seem to have a hero-worship thing going on, usually for either Gerard or Frank.
It's kind of sad, really.
i apologize for making you think i meant all of you. i def. don't mean that. i know there are some very smart people here. i also don't expect everyone to know or care who i am...i just want those of you who are the more reasonable few to understand why i don't come here and say too much. i really think you're all pretty amazing for having the decency to have your own place to vent this shit. i'd have to say all of the fun times i can recall with this band all happened before i got involved...since all of that and seeing things, i've moved on to other things and think you guys are doing the smart thing by keeping it here and not trolling the vicious fansites. you're a decent lot. i enjoy reading this blog.
Actually Rose has never come here and told us to move on or called anyone here fangirls. That would be Deb. She like to pop in here so she can catch up on her band that saved her life and tells us that we need to go out there and live our life. LOL!
I have no problems with you Rose. I have a pretty good idea of the type of things you have gone through when trying to speak your mind about S//C. In some people's minds it's just now allowed to speak ill of anything that has to do with the deified members of MCR.
Honestly, I wouldn't even have problems with the fangirls like your ex-buddy Deb either, if not for the fact that she and her ilk feel the need to go around telling other fans how to act and how to feel and essentially how to be a 'proper' My Chem fan.
If Deb wants to think that Gerard Way is responsible for placing the moon and stars in their respective positions, I have no problem with that. I just don't want her telling me or anyone else how to react to the things this band has done over the last few years. She's got no right to criticize the people on lj for acting 'entitled' either.
People react the way they react. They feel the way they feel. Nothing she or any of the other fansheep say is going to change that.
Well said 9:10.
Deb and Rose: stop using this place as your personal battleground between each other. Take that shit back to Twitter or somewhere else.
Rose: For someone you 'never liked' you sure seemed to be asking Brian a lot of questions about his plants. I've just looked at your Twitter following what was posted up there, and I have to say it's pretty creepy. Most of your time is taken up watching old MCR videos and interviews and going on about how 'triggered' you are by them or how 'wonderful' those moments were. You seem to be very much still emotionally invested in them, despite what you say here and elsewhere. I wish you luck with that, but really, you're coming across as badly as your old friend is.
12:42 you stalked her twitter? whoa.
I had a look to see what she'd been saying to Brian, as someone else had mentioned it, yes. You couldn't miss the fact that most of the tweets in a four hour period were about MCR. Hardly 'stalked', wouldn't you say?
1:37, the twitter squabbling between the two women on this page has been discussed already. Other people have made comments on their tweets. It's not really stalking to read their pages once or twice. They're not that important, despite what they think.
I think we should talk about much more interesting things like when My Stoopid Romance are finally going to finish their 'honest' album and when the damn thing will be released.
Will it be an instrumental album or will they be the millie vanilli of punk metal or whatever it is they call themselves now.
If G Way can't sing maybe he can't talk either. One can only hope for miracles ^_~
Clearly it was Bob holding them back from being 'honest'. The ginger bastard.
I think he should wear his hawaiian shirt for the new album cover to herald the "new" MCR. Come to think about it, they should all look like hobos. It's the opposite of emo and a good marketing ploy.
punk metal or whatever it is they call themselves now.
They call themselves an American rawk band.
Could Bob's "honest" and Frank's "honest" be different types of "honest?
I think the only "honest" thing they're doing is writing new songs because the ones they presented to Warner were crap.
@CourtneyLoveUK you might like this: http://bit.ly/axo1Fl you want to read the comments
7:48 PM Feb 23rd
http://twitter.com/megnclairereich
CL reads this blog now?
Teah, right! CL can't read and do you really think she'd give a shit about what we say about MCR/MSI. Frances is another matter - but she hasn't seen the kid in ages so........
LOL I don't think Rose is anything like Deb and I think the one using this as their battleground was Deb. All she does is come here to tell people what to do. I follow Rose on Twitter and I thought she was just reminding people of when she thought MCR were okay...kind of like that. The funny part is she only seemed to enjoy them when they were drunk or talking about porn.
And CL definitely doesn't not read this...she can hardly remember her own name. LOL. Who cares?
Like someone else said previously...One down, four to go! I raise my glass...to the beginning of the end!
Obama could read this blog for all I care.
Meh, Rose strikes me as very deluded. That comment she made to Deb where she acts like Deb only followed her 'because of who she was'. Like, really, who the fuck are you, Rose? Someone Frank once used to sell shitty merch to teenagers? They're just one big bunch of batshit, and that's the reason I don't go onto fan forums or LJ anymore.
The funny part is she only seemed to enjoy them when they were drunk or talking about porn.
Really riveting stuff.
once used to sell shitty merch to teenagers
Didn't one of the MCR wives do that too?
Didn't one of the MCR wives do that too?
Alicia was a tech, Eliza was a 'stylist' (in the loosest sense of the word). I don't know about any of the other wives, but Jamia co-owns S//C.
Selling band merch, cutting hair or not knowing how to play your instrument is a sure fire way to become an MCR wife. Maybe not the cutting hair so much.
Rose is a nutbag. I know this from personal experience of her. The reason she got the boot from S//C was because she was like another Crazy Nat in the making.
How do you know her 5:41?
I've had my dealings with Rose 5.45, and I'm going to just leave it at that, since she's probably 'stalking' this page herself now (Hi Rose!! Hi!!! *waves*). Let's just say she is emotionally unstable, as passive aggressive as you can get, and still very much obsessed with Frank Iero.
And I don't think she'll be getting into any MCR shows anytime soon.
Who the hell is Crazy Nat?
I swear, all this is making my head hurt!
And I don't think she'll be getting into any MCR shows anytime soon.
Probably cuz there won't be any, any time soon!
I don't believe you 5:47.
You can believe what you want.
I will.
thanks for posting my twitter account 4.51
and yes i do say stupid shit on there
Sure 5:47. I know Gerard and Frank and bff with the easter bunny too.
Like I said, you can believe what you want. Doesn't change the fact that from my POV with what I know, Rose is bad news.
Can we please not turn this into some back and forth anon fight that doesn't make any sense to anyone but the people involved? I'd rather this place not become a mirror of that "place that shall not be named," okay?
Well if Rose can stop lurking and trying to defend herself under anon that would be good.
I agree 6:12 which makes me believe the other anon is from that place.
Happy what happened? I'm confused.
Like I said, you can believe what you want. Doesn't change the fact that from my POV with what I know, Rose is bad news.
Doesn't matter what you know, because we don't know anything and we'll make up our own minds. Or are you another of those MCR do-gooder fans that insists on telling everyone how they should think about someone.
i meant 4.31
but i had tweeted Courtney Love this:
@CourtneyLoveUK you might like this: http://bit.ly/axo1Fl you want to read the comments
7:48 PM Feb 23rd
http://twitter.com/megnclairereich
March 6, 2010 4:39 AM
don't know why but i did....
and it showed up here
answer your question?
i don't mind thats it out here i was just acknowledging it so someone didn't think it was a sheep's account
I'm no fan of MCR. I'm someone who doesn't like creeper fangirls with egos.
what???
Can you explain who crazy nat is?
I didn't make the comment about her, but I think that poster means the Crazy Nat was an Australian MCR fan. She followed the band on tour all over Europe. She got to meet them a lot and once wrote an account of how she broke down in tears to Gerard at a meet and greet when she'd told him how he'd saved her life. She used to buy the guys loads of presents and stuff too, and pretty much got added to the guest lists for sold out shows.
Then the word is that she went a bit too far and tried to kiss Frank on the lips while getting a hug, and also get a bit too close to Bob or something. There are various versions. I've heard some people say that she whispered something into Frank's ear along the lines of 'I'm going to have you oneday'. Some say that Alicia was creeped out by her and asked for her to be banned. Anyway, long story short, she was banned by Worm because he found out that her and her friends had been following the tour bus convoy down the motorways in England when he'd given her a verbal warning to stay away from the band when she wasn't actually in the audience at a show.
i've never heard of crazy nat until today, did you make that story up,7.15?
LOL I wish I did. I'm sure it's been elaborated and stretched here and there, but it's true. It was all over LJ at one point, but this happened years ago, mind.
I think that bands like MCR bring this on to themselves due to having those stupid street teams which give you the opportunity to meet your idols by promoting them in a certain way. I think someone here or somewhere else explained that you have to earn 'points' or something like that and that if you earned a lot you will be rewarded by meeting them backstage etc.
That would explain why so many nutcases got the opportunity to meet them so many times. Of course they would do anything. They would plaster a whole city with band flyers only to show their unconditional support.
Exactly Sibohan. Or allow themselves to be exploited and used as free labor just for the chance of being in the inner circle.
does anyone know how many people actually get to meet mcr that way?
In the past, a lot more. Since they've gotten bigger and post-Eliza I think you'd be lucky if you ever got into a meet and greet that wasn't a prize for some competition.
does anyone here a member of mcrmy and actually did the promoting before? im just curious to know what the 'job decription' is like.
post eliza? was she involved in this?
No, but how she managed to meet Gerard originally was following the band around on tour and hanging out by the tourbus until he'd come out to chat with fans. I don't think the band would ever do that again, tbh.
the mcrmy has this mentality that they think together with mcr, they can take over the world.
does anyone remember when they plan to write a petition to russian government when it was rumored that russia wants to make emo/goth music illegal? seriously, who the fuck will listen to whiny teen emo bitches???
and lets not forget the daily mail (failed) protest which was the most embarassing mcrmy moment ever.
An "army" made of teen girls?
BRB, LOL-ing.
I remember that girl (the one you called 'crazy Nat'. I think her name on lj is cookiedough or something like that? She used to have another name but it's been so long ago I can't remember it. But I didn't know she was Australian. I thought she was British.
I remember that when I used to comment on the German messageboard of the official German MCR website ages ago that Warner was looking for fans working for them i. e. being mods, admins or even some kind of webmaster for the site. For free, of course. I was outraged by this and wrote an e-mail to Warner Germany. Then I called Warner because I had the feeling that they wanted to exploit the fans and surprisingly I had the exact same person on the phone who was responsible for this. He said that this is not unusual and that many fans do such things for other artists as well. Also, they would get merch for free etc.
I couldn't believe this. I mean, why can't they give them the same money that they would give an intern in addition to the free merch?
I think this is exploitation.
Crazy Nat was an Australian national but she moved to the UK and hung out with the uber-scary British girls who follow the band from venue to venue when they tour there.
I think mcr fans will do anything for free bcause it gives them the sense of being closer to the band.
But seriously, you work your ass off for years in exchange of a small talk and a handshake from them? Totally not worth it, if you ask me.
I know a girl who "works" for Eliza (i.e designing her myspace/buzznet header & background, editing her pictures, etc...)
LOL I bet she doesn't get paid for it.
Oh, I found an interesting bulletin from BN of her today.
==========Bulletin Message=========
From: elizacuts
Date: 08/14/2008 7:43 PM
Subject: Dear Buzznet (please do not open if you are under the age of 18 due to offensive language)
Dear Buzznet,
I sent you a few letters over a month ago about a death threat that my assistant found while going through a few thousand emails here on my Buzznet page. She was instructed while she was going through my emails to delete anything that was negative and to only give me the positive emails to reply to. She was also told by me that anything that would count as a threat to my safety and well being was to be turned into me and I would contact a member of your staff to take the appropriate action. Out of the thousands of emails that I had only one was negative enough that I figured deserved your attention. I sent it to you the day that we opened it, I also called 3 members of your staff on that day. One member directed me to the person that would handle such and email (I was very happy that there is such a person) and I wrote that person that same day. I sent all of the information that was needed to take care of the situation and gave various ways to contact me including my email ect. Weeks have passed and I have had no reply to the emails that I sent and have gotten no return phone calls about the matter. See the thing is that I do know that this was probably a joke, although it would be in poor taste, I love a good joke as much as the next guy. I also do know that the persons profile says that they are underage but the problem lies in the fact that this is indeed the internet and anyone can say that they are anyone at any given time. I hope that this person is not serious and I do hope that this is not a cover for a person that might have the funds and the means to actually find me and kill me. It would be a shame if I had warned of such a thing and nothing had been done about it and I ended up dead over something that could have been prevented. I do hope that you guys can find the time and the man power to take care of this. Thank you for your time. ( At the end of this email you will find the email that was sent to me, please do not read down any further if you are under 18 or easily offended.)
Eliza Siep
Death Threat Law & Legal Definition
Under state criminal codes, which vary by state, it is an offense to knowingly utter or convey a threat to cause death or bodily harm to any person. It is also an offense to threaten to burn, destroy or damage property or threaten to kill, poison or injure an animal or bird that belongs to a person.
In California, for example, political science teacher Michael Ballou started a furor over his "kill the president" e-mail assignment. Ballou, who teaches Introduction to Government at Santa Rosa Junior College's Petaluma campus caught the attention of both the U.S. Secret Service and the FBI when a student told his mother about the homework assignment and she in turn called the FBI.
Another student e-mailed "kill the president, kill the president" to the office of U.S. Rep. Mike Thompson, D- Napa Valley, in Washington D.C. and Thompson's office, who contacted police prior to the Secret Service getting involved.
From
Date
06/25/2007 12:51 AM
Subject
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOUR A FUCKING WHORE AND I HATE U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF I EVER MEET YOU I WILL KILL THAT NOT A THREAT IT'S A PROMISE!!!!!! U FUCKING SLUT!!!!!
wow, people will do anything to get closer to mcr.
this makes me sick, srsly.
Gerard probably sent her that email. I bet he'd run her over if he could get away with it.
siobhan, link to that bulletin ,please?
Duh, a girl pays $75 for her crappy haircut so Eliza having a fan as assistant doesnt surprise me at all.
Why do the people on BN insist that Bob left MCR because of his wrists? Everything about this (including the way 'Frank's' blog was worded) makes me think they weren't getting along. But, thing is, I don't know that for sure so I'm not going to say it like it's fact.
Have they heard something I haven't?
What do you mean, link to that Bulletin? How can I link to it?
it was well writen though
how stupid when people think bob left because of his wrist. FFS,even the most brutal orthopedics injury will heal in 2 years, so how long has it been since his wrist injury anyway?
siobhan:
post the URL of the webpage where you copied that bulletin from?
It is better for people to pretend that it was because of his wrist, because the other quite possible reason is that Gerard/the band have kicked him out, or Warner has. The fansheep don't want to consider those things.
I think you guys will get a kick out of this article's take on Bob's departure.
I LOL'ed so hard, especially at this:
"The American band's official explanation was frontman Gerard Way had been ordered off the road because of "severe vocal problems".
But maybe he strained his throat screaming at drummer Bob Bryar."
LMFAO.
I can't because I received that bulletin via my old BN account.
what is this i heard about frank is going to have twins.
Rumor/Fact?
Bob and MCR had their ups and downs. When they played at my country, Bob had a fight with the rest of the band and he fly back to the US alone.
I'm not making this up. It was posted on a local magazine as well.
9.20 where did you hear Frank having twins?
I doubt that rumor is true, but it would be really funny if it were. Can you imagine Gerard's reaction?
"Damn, just when I think I've got one up on that little bastard, he goes and outdoes me! Linds! Time to start taking fertility drugs!"
what is this i heard about frank is going to have twins.
Sounds like the kind of thing some fangirl would cook up in order to deflect and distract from Bob's departure to me.
what is this i heard about frank is going to have twins
Wouldn't it be funny if a few years from now some guy would tweet about 'two pricks' ruining some shitty movie experience for him and that he wishes their mother has sat on a coathanger? Only difference would be that this time the 'two pricks' would be Frank's own kids.
if mcr never claimed they "saved lives" i bet next to no fans would have ever claimed it either.
When I read about all these obsessive fans constantly following them or actually getting involved with them, like Eliza, it just seems so off putting. Why would you want to be married to these guys with this sort of stuff happening a lot of the time. I'm so glad I can have a normal relationship with someone, without this bullshit.
does anyone here a member of mcrmy and actually did the promoting before? im just curious to know what the 'job decription' is like.
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I was. This was at the time when I was still a fairly new fan, and before I heard about how crazy the mcrmy was. Basically it was a street team where they'd give out these missions that involved spreading the word about the band, such as giving out flyers they would send you in the mail about LOTMS and posting links and videos and such on various social websites, etc etc etc, and if you accomplished your mission within a certain time limit, they would reward you with free stuff, and you'd gained points and what not.
Then when the band was working on the Black Parade, they would give out stickers saying "We are the Black Parade" blah blah blah. I tried giving them out, but no one wanted them, so I tossed them aside. I was starting to get really bored with the street team thing, so not too long after that, I lost interest in it.
One other thing about the mcrmy missions was that even if one member had accomplished a mission in a timely matter, not everyone would be awarded, so pretty much some of the fans would had wasted their time and effort for nothing.
I had that happened to me a couple of times or so.
so it was like a first come first serve basis? cos rewarding everyone for their hard work would've just put a major cramp in their schedules.
Yep, pretty much. At least that's how I saw it.
http://www.facebook.com/elizasiep#!/album.php?profile=1&id=1837306640
ELiza can be real pretty when she wants to be
and a blog:
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/pretty-cheap/2010/03/alice-and-wonderland-make-up-and-nails-colors-that-could-even-make-the-queen-happy.html
I can tell you that the city I live in worked us street teamers to the core. We were told that if we plastered the city with stickers, flyers ect & took photographic evidence of this vandalism that 12 of us would be rewarded with a private meeting backstage. (This was a radio show so backstage means over by the buses.) My friend was desperate to meet the band and I didn't mind taking pictures of her putting up stickers. If my name was attached good for me. Anyway, we were one of the tweleve. This was in April of 07 and Eliza and Alisha were both at this show. We were put in a line and told that we would be going through this tent thing where we could get autographs. We were not allowed to take pictures at all. Worm was pretty much yelling at anyone who even had their camera in plain sight. We went through the line and Bob and Frank were the only two who didn't act like they were being forced to do this. Gerard literally shook people's fingers and mumbled a thank you. He high taled it back to the bus without a thank you or a goodbye. Ray, Bob and Frank stuck around and talked to everyone. Gerard was a total ass hat to all of us. Some girls were crying because he wouldn't even look at them, and he apparantly told Worm to usher us out as soon as everyone's autographs had been signed. It was after that I had a total change of heart where MCR (gerard in particular) were concerned.
one of the local clubs had an all age show for them when they came through my city... they were all drunk but they where really surprised that people actually stayed behind to meet them back then this was then they all seemed genuine
your story is so familiar to me 6:00. i met the band way back when they were thrilled they even had fans, but the last time i had passes gerard wouldn't even come out and neither would mikey. this was when he was with eliza. frank and ray were the only ones who seemed to give a crap. bob was nice too but not as much as the other two. at the time i blamed eliza because i couldn't accept that gerard had changed so much. i know now that he was just showing his true personality.
Back in the spring of 07 you could meet the band by defending Eliza on fansites, as long as she found out about it. Those girls were the only ones that Gerard was even halfway civil to.
and it seems like gerard never regained his old gratitude. i think it was genuine, years ago. but recently it seems like he thinks he's too big a deal to treat the people who buy his crap with respect. i bet he'll change his tune once mcr is down the drain.
Gerard was arrogant as fuck when i met him. He didnt even took his stupid Ray-Ban off (the signing took place in a building btw) and didnt even bother to look up from his sketch book. He just shake everyone's hand lightly and sign whatever he needs to w/o even looking at our faces. My friend jokingly asked if the reason he refused to take off his glasses was because he's tired of the fans and he replied "maybe". Seriously WTF.
can't blame the guy for being tired of fans when they're mostly half witted screaming teenage girls. also can't hold being half honest against him. i just think he's forgotten the basic concept that yes while they're annoying they pay your bills and without them to buy your music and comics you'd have to get a regular job. he doesn't have to be best friends with them just be thankful for what they've done for him. idk i just think its weird that the fans thank him and the band more than they do the fans. doesn't seem right.
^ yep, thats what i thought too.must be due to mcr and their BS "we saved your life" propaganda. bleurgh.
and it seems like gerard never regained his old gratitude. i think it was genuine, years ago. but recently it seems like he thinks he's too big a deal to treat the people who buy his crap with respect. i bet he'll change his tune once mcr is down the drain.
Years ago he was probably naive and idealistic. Now he seems embittered by the whole business.
If Gerard is embittered by the music business, maybe it's time for him to get out.
He has his comic book success now, and that's what he originally wanted ti do with his life so I can't imagine why he would continue on with music unless, like others have said, the band is just fulfilling their contractual obligations right now.
*to
No, I think Gerard sees himself as the next Billy Corgan, Billie Joe, or Brandon Flowers. He just hates the fact that most of his fans are fickle teenage girls.
No, I think Gerard sees himself as the next Billy Corgan, Billie Joe, or Brandon Flowers.
If that's what he wants then he's never going to get it. Gerard will never earn the kind of respect in the music business that those guys have had. MCR is seen by so many as a gimmick band, what with the matching band outfits and even before that, the suit and tie and white makeup and armband crap they wore during the Helena period. Seriously, pull up one of the pictures from that era and they just look so ridiculous and dated.
Fans will tell you that MCR is 'all about the music', but it's never just been about the music with them. It's been about 'saving lives', costumes, makeup and image and no matter how hard Gerard tries to blame all that on somebody else (Brian, Warner, etc.) it all goes back to him and the vision that he had for the band. It's going to be too hard to leave that behind.
Lulzy photo from the Revenge era.
Also, I was trying to find a picture to prove my point and I ran across this blog. I thought it was hilarious so I'm posting it here for you guys.
^_^
One more comment and I'll stop.
I'm not saying I agree with the person who wrote that blog. I don't think you can judge a band's music unless you listen to it. However, I don't really think that's what he (she?) is doing. I think he's just saying that the band's image is so ridiculous that he can't even force himself to give them a listen.
Unfortunately for MCR, there are a lot of people out there who feel the same.
^ yep, thats what i thought too.must be due to mcr and their BS "we saved your life" propaganda. bleurgh.
Isn't it funny that fans still identify with MCR's old message about saving lives but don't seem to remember their old message about fighting sexism/misogyny anymore?
If that's what he wants then he's never going to get it. Gerard will never earn the kind of respect in the music business that those guys have had. MCR is seen by so many as a gimmick band, what with the matching band outfits and even before that, the suit and tie and white makeup and armband crap they wore during the Helena period. Seriously, pull up one of the pictures from that era and they just look so ridiculous and dated.
Fans will tell you that MCR is 'all about the music', but it's never just been about the music with them. It's been about 'saving lives', costumes, makeup and image and no matter how hard Gerard tries to blame all that on somebody else (Brian, Warner, etc.) it all goes back to him and the vision that he had for the band. It's going to be too hard to leave that behind.
I have to say that that's exactly what I found so interesting about them and so exciting. I was actually getting bored to see all those brit poppers and indie bands looking like hobos or smelly university students who slept in their clothes and just got up to shuffle off to class.
I'm a New Romantics fan and I was really excited to see a band who was theatrical again and whose band members weren't afraid to wear makeup (if it was applied by a pro, not Eliza or Gerard himself!).
I just think that TBP was too much. It really should have been their fifth album instead of their third. Image- and theatrical-wise, of course.
If Gerard wouldn't be so insecure and wouldn't always want to please the wrong people they could have become pioneers in their own genre. I wouldn't have called them emo but gothic punk-pop. I think it's more the fans who are emo or assimilated the emo look.
I think stubbornness pays. They would have found their niche if they had stayed the way they were and I think they would have been successful.
I guess that when you change your image that often people just can smell your insecurity. It's just like with dogs who smell your fear or kids who find out who's the weakest member of the clique. You then become an easy victim. They eat you alive or look down on you and will never see you as their peer again.
I think stubbornness pays. They would have found their niche if they had stayed the way they were and I think they would have been successful.
I think that's true. The people who loved the costumes and the makeup are unhappy with the fact that Gerard is now trashing the Black Parade era and he's not likely to bring in the audience he wants because, no matter how much he trashes it, those people aren't going to give MCR a chance because of the Black Parade era.
All he's succeeded in doing is to turn MCR into a joke.
All of you remind me of a lynch mob. You're going to hate on this band no matter what they do, just for the sake of hating.
You hate them for dressing up in costumes and wearing makeup, but you hate them for turning their backs on that. You hate them for not being honest, but when they are honest you don't like what they have to say.
They cannot win with you people. You have to have your pound of flesh from them no matter what.
People like you are killing this band and when they are dead, you'll spit on their corpse and dance on their grave.
I hate you all.
People like you are killing this band and when they are dead, you'll spit on their corpse and dance on their grave.
Did we ever claim that we want something else? *assures herself that she's on the right blog and not some MCR fan forum
You hate them for dressing up in costumes and wearing makeup, but you hate them for turning their backs on that. You hate them for not being honest, but when they are honest you don't like what they have to say.
Believe it or not, there's more than one person commenting on this blog. And not everyone here always agrees on specifics.
If anybody is killing this band, it's the band itself.
The fangirls want to blame Warner, Brian, MSI and now us -- anybody they can think of to deflect the blame from where it belongs: squarely on the shoulders of the band members themselves.
People like you are killing this band and when they are dead, you'll spit on their corpse and dance on their grave.
How can we actually be killing this band? This band is more than capable of doing that all by themselves. We are simply having a discussion on a blog. If you don't like that, don't read here.
You hate them for dressing up in costumes and wearing makeup, but you hate them for turning their backs on that. You hate them for not being honest, but when they are honest you don't like what they have to say.
When are they honest. When they tell young girls to go "fuck themselves" or when they think it's a hoot for a female to get punched in the face?
People like you are killing this band and when they are dead, you'll spit on their corpse and dance on their grave.
Sweetie, the only thing that kills a band is when they can't sell their music anymore or they can't pull enough interest for a tour. If the band loathe their teenage fans and want a different set, they still have to produce the goods to attract them and make them want to purchase their music. Blaming fans is akin to blaming victims, the band is responsible for their own demise if it happens.
All of you remind me of a lynch mob.
Then I don't think "lynch mob" means what you think it means.
I hate you all.
You're going to hate on this band no matter what they do, just for the sake of hating.
Kind of like what you are doing. You are going to hate us because the truth hurts.
They cannot win with you people. You have to have your pound of flesh from them no matter what.
Wow. Very melodramatic!
Maybe Mayo is Dr. Kevorkian.
^whoops, wrong blog.
Okay. Whatever.
Bunch of damn lunatics.
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