Monday, December 28, 2009

...oh well.....

It now looks like lots of us were wrong about Frank Iero too. Women getting punched is now funny to him too. And so is offending everyone he can. He now seems to enjoy the fact that he can say whatever nasty thing he wants and make people feel bad if he feels like it, without consequences.

That's the life and mind set of a true "Rock Star".

It's not like they're worth caring about anymore anyway....

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Anonymous said...

Let's just say, I do agree with most of this blog, I just don't agree with blowing silly things, things that all artists do, out of proportion.

You know what you should do? You should go and stick with all your artist friends, and leave us to our blog, blowing silly things out of proportion .

Anonymous said...

I'll leave you (few) people to try and bring MCR's rep down, and you'll all fail I'm sure.

You're a jackass. And yes leave us to our ranting. We don't care want you think, so you don't need to come back.

Anonymous said...

And give Gerard Way's flabby ass a big wet kiss!

Anonymous said...

Are you Chantal? You sound like the kind of idiot she is.

Anonymous said...

MCR do not have an established fanbase like you seem to think they do.

Most of them are clueless teenagers who will dance along with the strings Gerard pulls, because they're young and impressionable. Then they'll grow up. They'll move on.

MCR spent so long trying to get those 'kids' to spread their wallets, they didn't put the groudwork needed into trying to attract the older, wider fanbase. And the efforts of 'Tallicadude' won't help now. Too little too late.

I think it's safe to say that in a few years, MCR's arena playing days will be over.

Anonymous said...

MCR's rep? That's laughable.

You do understand that the majority of the record-buying public and most major music publications consider MCR to be nothing more than a 'fad' band, don't you?

They can't do anything original to save their ass. Spouting off about all your 'old skool rock influences' just makes the people who actually know anything about those artists roll their eyes.

The only reason The Black Parade did so well was that MCR were sold as an Emo boy band, complete with matching outfits, not because everyone who heard it thought 'OMG THAT SOUNDS SO MUCH LIKE QUEEN!'.

Anonymous said...

chantal who?

Anonymous said...

Claret. She's an idiot who poses as a 'wise elder', too.

Anonymous said...

I think Frank's doing a good enough job of bringing MCR's rep down, if we're being honest.

I wonder how many parents would whip out the Amex to buy merch when they log onto the official webpage and see a comment such as 'That bitch should have given herself a DIY abortion with a coathanger'.

Most 'decent' folk would just hit the little X on their tab and go on with the day.

If you really think we're out to topple MCR with a little blog and that Frank's violent and sexualized tweets don't reach a much bigger audience and are far more damaging for them, then you are an idiot of vast propotions.

Anonymous said...

chantel claret? Why would she care so much about mcr?

Anonymous said...

Why would she care so much about mcr?

She practically cyber-stalked Gerard on twitter to get him to add her. She set up 'arrangements' so that he could find and add Jimmy. The whole thing was rather desperate. She seems to be gleefully leeching off the attention she has gained since the fangirls started knowing who she was.

Plus she probably lurks to see what people are saying about her special Gerard and Lindsay.

Oh, and she also thinking punching people 'in the vagina' is funny. Go figure!

Anonymous said...

Sorry but I doubt Chantal would be here or that she would cyber-stalk Gerard considering they're friends.

Anonymous said...

i think it was just some stupid fangirl pretending to have connections. Only an idiot would reason the way they did.

Anonymous said...

Yes, they look like a complete fucking idiot.

Anonymous said...

She must have tweeted at him more than a dozen times asking him to add her. She was desperate to get an him to follow her asap so she could show off. Real 'friends' wouldn't need to do that.

Anonymous said...

They'd already been photographed together at DragonCon, MSI gigs and her birthday do. Think anyone who wanted to know would have by then. Plus, Jimmy says Gerard is his "best friend". I don't believe it, sounds like spin, but it might be true. Then there's all those "game nights" and bingo..... I think Chantal was just trying to make him aware of her account the same way Frances tried.....and failed. I don't think Gerard is very good at Twitter, nor does he want to be that's they they had to point out the obvious to him.

She seems to be gleefully leeching off the attention she has gained since the fangirls started knowing who she was.
This is believe in.

Anonymous said...

I just searched for Chantal on BN. I found this interesting journal which I found quite funny, as well as the comments.

Anonymous said...

MCR do not have an established fanbase like you seem to think they do.

Most of them are clueless teenagers who will dance along with the strings Gerard pulls, because they're young and impressionable. Then they'll grow up. They'll move on.


This. If you don't believe that, go look at the pathetic comments on their website from where Frank made his obligatory 'plea' for help for victims of the Haiti earthquake. Link. All 100 or so of them.

Half those people are so young they can't give money. A lot of them are from very poor countries and probably can't afford to buy MCR's records, let alone their expensive merch.

There was a time when such a plea would have been posted all over fansites like LJ and would have generated more than 200 comments on chemicalromance alone -- from articulate, educated people. Where have all those fans gone?

What you don't seem to realize is that for every one of us who comes here to complain about MCR, there are dozens (maybe hundreds) who just quietly walked away from this band. I know at least a dozen myself.

Desolation Row's poor sales were not a fluke. I wouldn't be expecting this new record to be a smashing success if I were you.

Anonymous said...

What you don't seem to realize is that for every one of us who comes here to complain about MCR, there are dozens (maybe hundreds) who just quietly walked away from this band. I know at least a dozen myself.

That portion of my comment was directed at the anon who said that MCR had a huge, well-established fanbase, by the way. I realize that's rather obvious, but I just don't want the anon I quoted to misunderstand.

Anonymous said...

What an idiot you are, anon! I really hope that you've lied about having a child. I don't even want to imagine what an ignorant fool your kid is at risk of becoming due to your own stupidity and naiveté!

And before any of you start going on about how he did it lying, then so does everyone else, anyone else who you've ever listened to, watched, or read about. It makes me wonder why you think Gerard is so different to everyone else?

So - according to you - just because Gerard is like everyone and does as everyone we have to accept it and keep our mouths shut? What kind of moronic reasoning is that?
Everyone does it therefore it is acceptable?

And how do you know that we are only speaking up about Gerard's sexist behavior? Do you know every single one of us ten people personally that you can make statements like that? At least have the decency to put an I think or I assume or I guess at the beginning of your sentences in which you accuse us of doing specific things because we bitches here do!

Let's just say, I do agree with most of this blog, I just don't agree with blowing silly things, things that all artists do, out of proportion.

That poor child of yours!
I can only imagine how awful it must be to have parents who aren't able to teach you self-worth and pride and self-confidence if they don't seem to feel those things about themselves to begin with.
Very sad, indeed!

I was wondering what makes girls and women want to defend boys' and men's misogynistic behavior to the point that they're turning on other girls and women and accuse them of blowing silly things out of proportion?

Is it that they never experienced misogyny or that they don't recognize it as such because they are used to being treated that way and never questioned it due to an environment which never pointed it out to them that they don't have to put up with such behavior and that it is not okay for boys and men to act that way?

Is it that they are afraid of the people who point it out to them because they could bring them to consider their life, their life choices, the ways they have been treated by men so far and what they exposed themselves to the whole time?

Anonymous said...

God, what a blowhard.

Anonymous said...

Gerard is king of the blowhards, anon. Everything he talks about is 90% hot air.

Anonymous said...

Logic being deflected. Common sense shutting down. Countdown to 'You're just jellus bitches!' in three, two, one.

Lynn said...

I'm no defending anyone - I'm on no one's side, I'm just saying, there's about ten of you, but thousands on groups for them on Facebook, their website and Myspace. Their gang is bigger.


Their gang is bigger. LOL! This coming from someone who "claims" to have a child? There might be only ten or so of us, but i'm sure there are alot of people on this earth that don't know who MCR are or don't care for them. This is just a blog where we can come and speak our minds. Thank you for thinking that we ten or so bloggers are the only ones on earth that think MCR sucks! Come back when the new album comes out and let us know how it saved your life. Ta Ta.

Anonymous said...

If there are only ten of us and our opinions don't mean shit, then why exactly are you here again?

Nicci said...

What do you mean?? Of course MCR had a *huge* following. I believe those cool kids refer to us as "emos"...

Of course, that seems to pretty include anyone with nice hair and eyeliner. ^^

Funny, that used to be called goth; or the 80's... o.O

But hey! Times change! People get old and senile!

In fact, who am I??

What I am I doing here?!

Who is that vampire staring back at me in the mirror?!!

HOW IS THAT VAMPIRE ABLE TO USE A MIRROR????!!!

- N

Anonymous said...

And, I think most in that audience would have got off on what he said -- most wouldn't have cared less. I've seen him many, many times and each time he was very provocative. You know what? All the girls were screaming their heads off. No one walked out, outraged. It didn't make the headlines. Only a handful cared about it.

What sort of person would say a fucking stupid thing like that?

Anonymous said...

The same sort of person that finds Gerard Way sexual and provocative .

Anonymous said...

The same sort of person that finds Gerard Way sexual and provocative

LMAO!

Nicci said...

"What sort of person would say a fucking stupid thing like that?"

*snort*

Hee! That's the problem when you all are titled "anonymous"!

You all just sorta look the same...

Heh, in fact, what there aren't any other people? And this just one big split personality in the mad mind of the creator?

What if I'm the creator??

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT VAMPIRE STILL STARING AT?!!!

- N

Kapunua said...

And, I think most in that audience would have got off on what he said -- most wouldn't have cared less. I've seen him many, many times and each time he was very provocative. You know what? All the girls were screaming their heads off. No one walked out, outraged.


Because they unfortunately have parents that never taught them that it's not okay for a 30-something rawkstah to tell a bunch of 14 year old girls to play with themselves for him.

Nicci said...

Are you the creator??

Anonymous said...

Gerard represents the emo fantasy of 13 year old girls, and I have no doubt that anon was around the same age.

Anonymous said...

Voluptucuckoo you are not fooling anyone.

Nicci said...

Er... if that last comment was to me, MY NAME IS NICCI.

*cough*

Nicci Rockdad

Google it. I ain't a plant, just a supervillian.

But props on your mad rhyming skills! ^^

Are you the creator??!

Anonymous said...

Whatever

Anonymous said...

Why would a grown (heh) man expect 14 year old girls to play with themselves for him?

Anonymous said...

Voluptucuckoo you are not fooling anyone.

I think you're giving that whack job way to much credit.

Anonymous said...

Nicci - are you here for self promotion or are you here to add to the conversation?

Nicci said...

What's with all the obsession with masturbation??

Wack jobs, moaning crowds....

I'm picking up on a theme here... o.O

Nicci said...

Self-promotion for what?

I'm a "fan-girl"! ^^

This is what I *do*! ^^

Are you the creator??!!

Anonymous said...

Funny, Nicci, I'm picking up a theme from you.

Lets just ignore her. She's another MCR looking for trouble. Lets not give it to her.

Nicci said...

Come on, you had to figure eventually we'd find your little blog.

Didn't you wonder about the increase in pro-mcr comments??

Some of us have been here all along, acutally. ^_-

Nicci said...

P.S. Are you the creator??

Anonymous said...

Our blog has never been secret so I suspect "finding" it wasn't so hard.

The creator is Verita Venom, she hardly comes here.

You can say your opinion on here as much as you like. If you post them in a sensible, logical manner people might actually hear what you have to say and take it on board. It's not a rule, but I ask you to please be respectful of other people's opinions and no to use language that might be degrading to women, gay or ethic minorites. Treat us with respect and we will treat you likewise.

Kohl said...

Why is it the general assumption that anyone who posts in support of the band is obviously '13 years old'?

I respect your opinions and I would not argue against your entitlement to them, but it seems as though anyone who disagrees is instantly dismissed and personal assumptions are made.

Yes; I'll admit while reading the comments there are supporters who make me cringe, and others that just downright infuriate me with their idiocy and spite. You have every right to dismiss them.

But what of those of us who have stumbled across this place and wish for a mature and civilised discussion? I'm not here to belittle or argue against your opinions, merely to respect them, challenge them (in a positive way) and maybe understand them, or at least the reasons behind them.

Nicci said...

Ha! Yeah right, the first thing you did was call me "Voluptucuckoo"

Real nice and logical kids you are.

DO you know why I'm here?

Because all of those nice sweet MCR fans you've been chewing up and spitting out asked me to be.

Nothing is worse then getting verbally assaulted for trying to defend something you love by a bunch of cowards who won't even show their face.

You are mean, and crazy, and so they came to me because they know that I treat people they way they "want" to be treated.

- Nicci

Anonymous said...

And by sounding like a total lunatic with asking 'Are you the creator' and 'Why is that vampire in the mirror staring back at me' you really think you're doing the band and their fan base a service?

Do you really think that makes us reconsider our opinion about MCR fans being totally crazy?

@Kohl: Just read Nicci's posts and you have the answer to your question.

Nicci said...

Are you the creator???

Anonymous said...

I guess MCR fangirls must like being 'verbally assaulted'. They follow Frank's twitter, after all.

Nicci said...

*giggle* Zing!

*cough*

But you're not Frank... o.O

Are you the creator?!

Anonymous said...

Because Frank has some right to behave like that?

You sound high. Are you Gerard?

Kohl said...

Siobhan, like I said, I admit there are the fans who come in here all guns blazing and set the fandom even further back in opinion.
No disrespect to Nicci either, I admire your enthusiasm to an extent, but I think you yourself can see-or I at least hope that you do- if you come here acting like it is come sort of 'crusade' you will only be (somewhat rightfully)shot down.

In regards to my second question- 'what about those of us who would like a mature and civilised discussion?' And who are not 13. :/

Anonymous said...

I love it when I don't have to prove to people that the MCRmy is a bunch full of crazies but that those loons are doing the job themselves. Brilliant!

Nicci said...

I'm not high; I'm a supervillain/fan-girl!

Gah, stick with the conversation...

Good call on the slander without evidence there, way to be logical and forthcoming.

I don't even need to ask if you're the creator; you're obviously not smart enough! ^^

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry Nicci, but the creator is not here at the moment. Please leave a message and she'll get back to you.


*giggle*

Nicci said...

Oh wait, but then, she did that too, huh?

ARE YOU THE CREATOR?????

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Anonymous said...

It's impossible to try and defend MCR's sexism if you are educated about the things they're doing wrong. It really is. That's why people get shot down, because they go round in circles trying to defend it. Eventually most of them resort to calling us 'bitches' and saying we're 'jus jellus'.

Seriously, I have not seen one comment on here which explains why it's okay for MCR to behave like they have been doing past 'they can do what they want' - which is funnily enough our opinion too. They can do what they want. And we can smack them down for doing it.

Nicci said...

Er.. not you, Bleeding Chaos, the one above you. ^_-

Anonymous said...

13 year olds are welcome, but as KOHL said, I would prefer discussions around here to be civilised and mature.

Nicci, ask your friends to come back and address us more appropriately and they'll see that we aren't what they think we are.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and 'slander'? Look the word up. Better yet, go to MCR's twitters, website, watch their DVDs and see the lies spew from their mouths. They set themselves up for the truth coming along to bite them in the ass when they started telling stories in the press and then retracting and backpedaling on them two years later.

Nicci said...

Right, but if you try and fight hatred with hatred; well then, *this* happens...

Anonymous said...

Don't make me quote Spider-Man about the difference between "slander" and "liable".

Anonymous said...

Most of us don't 'hate' MCR. We just think they're idiots. I'd think the same of anyone who found abortion jokes funny.

Nicci said...

I mean, have you even tried talking to MCR about the way you feel?

Anonymous said...

Nicci, no disrespect, but aren't you then fighting hatred with hatred?

Lynn said...

And by sounding like a total lunatic with asking 'Are you the creator' and 'Why is that vampire in the mirror staring back at me' you really think you're doing the band and their fan base a service?



LOL Siobhan!! And they call us unstable.

Nicci said...

The mere fact that they do delete such tweets and whatnot means they do care what you think.

Have you even tried to do anything but sit here and yell at their followers?

Anonymous said...

I mean, have you even tried talking to MCR about the way you feel?

People have tried - and were blocked on Twitter.

Anonymous said...

Oh, some people tried to tell Frank he was being insensitive, offensive, sexist and racist. He got butthurt and blocked them on twitter, saying he could use the word 'N*gger' if he wanted to, because he meant it 'in a friendly way'.

That, Nicci, is how letting MCR know how you feel turns out. They think they are beyond reproach thesedays.

Anonymous said...

If they cared what we thought, they would have spoken to us on Twitter and discussed it. Gotten their side across. They didn't. People were just blocked like they didn't matter.

Anonymous said...

LOL Frank deletes some of his tweets after defending his 'right' to post them because he got told to.

He's kept the abortion one up, though.

Nicci said...

Yeah, but have you tried lately?

Lynn said...

Nothing is worse then getting verbally assaulted for trying to defend something you love by a bunch of cowards who won't even show their face.


This is exactly why they need to go to a MCR fansite. This is not a fansite. No one here is a coward. You are not a vampire.

Anonymous said...

I, for one, have written to MCR (c/o Warner) and the Reprise CEO to ask that racist and sexist slurs and jokes do not appear on the band's official webpage, as per the company's business ethics.

I am still waiting for a response.

Anonymous said...

Is there any point trying again? If they didn't hear us out a couple of months ago, I doubt they will now.

Anonymous said...

Nicci, it should not matter if we tried a year ago, or a week ago. MCR have been failing it up for ages. They don't have a clue, and they don't care how people feel.

If they did, they'd know better than to publish the sort of content they have been doing on their website.

Anonymous said...

Kohl, what I don't understand is why you MCR fans come here in the first place?
We read entries and comments on BN and/or LJ or wherever else if they're mentioning this blog or if the discussions about MCR arouse our interest. We go to those sites, we read there, we come back, we discuss. We don't stay there and harass people! Why do so many MCR fans think they have the right to harass us here?
Why is it so important for MCR fans what ten people say?

You sound like someone who's capable of carrying on a decent conversation. I don't think that people will attack you here or call you a 13-year-old fansheep if you are able to discuss matters without behaving like this Nicci or that anon who claimed to have a child to be perceived as an adult.

It is not our fault that our perception of the general MCR fan base is confirmed by people like Nicci or anonymous commenters who behave like completely brainless morons on here.

Nicci said...

Obviously! I have a reflection to yell at. ^_-

If you guys won't take it to MCR, then what the fuck is this blog for??

You feel betrayed, right?

You want to get the old MCR back, right?

So tell them!!!

In a nice well-educated way.

Not on twitter...

On the site, in full view of everyone.

Ignore the fans, and get what you want.

If you aren't brave enough to do so, all you're ever gonna get is more fan-girls like me to yell at.

Heh, but if that's what you want, I am free today and I do have a *lot* of friends. ^^

- Nicci

P.S. If I was the creator, that's what I'd do. After all, if they *don't* listen, I could just blog about it later. ^_-

Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone here has a MCR site account and even if we did, I think we'd be booted from that just as easily as we've be blocked from Twitter.

Nicci said...

If you are, I'll agree with you.

Kohl said...

I just wanted to get a few things off my chest.
I am an MCR fan. I won't bore you with details why, but the reasons are quite personal to myself. I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit that this blog has some valid points. I will not be the first, but I will join those who have already stated that there is no excuse for sexism, no matter who or where it comes from.

I am posting because I see a lot of hatred and judgement in this blog, and it saddens me.
I acknowledge the valid points that this blog makes, however, occasionally I see personal attacks against both its commenters (on all 'sides' though I dislike the term, or even to think of it that way) and the band themselves. Just like sexism, I find that uncalled for and unnecessary.

Lynn said...

You feel betrayed, right?

You want to get the old MCR back, right?


I don't want the old MCR back. I have the feeling that they were always assholes.

Anonymous said...

Nicci, it's nice that you think we can 'take this to the website', but I think we all know what would happen. It would be deleted within five minutes.

This has nothing to do with 'being brave'. And while we're on the subject, 'being brave' is not laughing at a woman being punched. It's not telling a complete stranger that she should have performed her own abortion, to an audience of thousands of young girls, on twitter. It's not banding around the words like 'C*unt' and 'N*gger' for laughs, or telling a woman where she can and can't go to the bathroom. It's not asking a room full of thousands of underage girls to masturbate for you.

Those things are the trademarks of losers and cowards.

We are not the ones you should be saying 'aren't brave'.

Nicci said...

Thank you.

Now, I agree with you guys as well.

We can all pin-point the exact year when MCR started to get a little wild.

I think, we may need to wake them up, but first we have to give them a second chance.

If they don't want it then, as I said, I'll agree with you.

Anonymous said...

Kohl, what points do you feel are valid, if you don't mind sharing?

Anonymous said...

Kohl, yes, some people do hate them. They hate them for doing us, as women, a dis-service.

No one here thinks MCR are some sort of high-powered feminist think tank, and they never tried to be. But they did stand proud of their defence of women's rights in the scene. Then they went and behaved like a bunch of sexist animals.

Some people are going to judge them for that. Because what they did was wrong.

Let me ask you a question: If MCR had been so vocal about standing up for Black and ethnic minority rights in the rock scene, and then made jokes about lynching non-whites, or saying where black people can and can't sit on the bus, or giggling at an asian person being punched, would we be having this discussion?

Kapunua said...

It's not "slander" (spoken lies) and it's not "liable" (culpability) and hell, it's not even libel (written lies.)

But you guys do bring the funny sometimes. :D Nothing more hilarious than a frothing fangirl making no sense whatsoever and thinking she's clever as she bangs her head against the wall.

I actually have a semi-cruel streak that allows me enjoyment of watching crazy fangirls foam at the mouth and run around in tight little circles. ^_^

Kapunua said...

By the way, I love internet threats. Got that a lot over at The Other Place. "I'll get you, my pretty!" "You DON'T want to mess with me!" AND, "I HAVE FRIENDS and I'LL CALL THEM TOO!"

It makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob when they discovered the internet, and then went from house to house beating up people who didn't like them.

Except that they meant to be funny.

Kohl said...

Thankyou, Siobhan. :) I'd like you to know that it is not my intention at all to harrass any of you in the slightest, or to try and change your opinions.

I've come here to discuss rather than lj or bn because as I'm sure you have experienced 9 times out of 10 the discussions will end with talk of jealously or the random 'omgzzz MiKeY wAy is hottttt.'

Simply, I'm here because I think you regular posters are mature and capable of upholding that in your discussions. While I may not share your opinions I think you talk about some interesting topics, and I would like to participate.

@anonymous; I have yet to read through the whole blog and all the comments as I'm sure you'll understand that's a rather big ask! However, all the recent comments about sexism and not appreciating the fans have struck a chord with me.

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Anonymous said...

You want to get the old MCR back, right?

Whaaaaaat????

I will celebrate the day when all five of those assholes are forced to get 'normal' jobs again because nobody gives a fuck anymore about their music.

And why don't you go back and read the comments on some of the previous blog entries? This way you can assure yourself of the fact that we have tried numerous times to contact the band members, the record label or any other person/organization to show them what we think about their behavior and ask them to take a stand.

Anonymous said...

ou feel betrayed, right?

You want to get the old MCR back, right?
-------------------------------------

Nope. And even if there was a slight possibility that the old MCR might return, I still wouldn't spend money buying their merchandise or music. I lost all interest in that band. It's just meh to me. And that's that.

Though I will point out that I still like to come here and read everyone's opinions. Also some of the comments make me laugh.

Nicci said...

I didn't threaten you...

Did you even read my comments or were you so pleased at my witty devilry you just couldn't wait to dance with me?

My goal, is to get you guys what you want.

To get the old MCR back!

I mean, if you didn't still care this blog wouldn't even exist. Only fans devote this much attention to something.

I want to help you get what you want.

I don't believe in fighting hate with hate when both sides can be happy.

If you were happy with MCR, fan-girls wouldn't need to come here in their place; then you wouldn't bite their heads-off.

Write a letter, if MCR is the nice guys at heart we fan-girls think they are, everybody wins.

If not, then I'm with you...

Anonymous said...

I've come here to discuss rather than lj or bn because as I'm sure you have experienced 9 times out of 10 the discussions will end with talk of jealously or the random 'omgzzz MiKeY wAy is hottttt.'
That's why I left BN too. I can't stand the fact that people there think that if you disagree with the band then it's because you want sex with them and you're never going to get it.

Having sex with the members of MCR might be their priority when it comes to the band, but it's not mine.

Anonymous said...

Nicci, as mentioned, MCR have been sent letters and emails.

Those are not going to help at this point. What will help is when their next album fails to make a dent in the charts and when they can't shift the tour tickets and break even. That is the only language these morons understand now.

Kohl said...

@ anonymous 2? I didn't mean hatred as hating the band, I mean hating on each other and people as individuals.

I am female. I am not defending the blantant sexism quite simply because I can't, and wouldn't want to even if I thought I could. I am also disappointed to think that they have made a mockery of the values they once stood by so firmly- this was something that attracted me to the band, as I'm sure it was for many people, and you have every right to call them out on it because that is the image they put out there.

Discrimination is discrimination whether it is against race/religion/sexuality/age or gender. All equally wrong.

Nicci said...

Right, but a *public letter*, on the site in *full view* of everyone would have to be dealt with.

To one end, or another.

Either way, you guys would win!

Where is the creator of this thing anyway?

I would have already done this for you guys...

Heh, you can see how swiftly I reply when someone asks for my help. ^_-

Nicci said...

By the way, I really wanted to handle of all this privately, by email, but that wasn't an option...

Anonymous said...

Nicci, the letter would simply be dogpiled by fans, or deleted by Jeff Watson.

If Warner were serious about responding to some fan's concerns then the Twitter feed would have been removed from the website.

Lynn said...

Right, but a *public letter*, on the site in *full view* of everyone would have to be dealt with.



What "site" are you talking about? I'm sorry but i call bullshit!

Nicci said...

By the way, if you did do this, you could still use a fake MCR to retain your anonymity...

That is way scarier then here I'm sure.

I like you guys, contrary to what I was led to believe you seem pretty fucking smart.

I know *you* could get them to listen if you did this.

Anonymous said...

Kohl, people here will respond when fan come in telling them that they are jelous, or that their opinions don't matter because MCR are famous and they're not, or that they're 'bitches'. Those are the people that get a rough ride here.

Nicci said...

I'd have more faith in them than that, as long as it's well-written and kind they'd look like jerks for deleting it.

Write it in the comment page, just not on the Haiti part please. That's just mean.

Tell ya what, next blog! Let's do it next blog, who's with me?? ^^

P.S. Prepare to have a bunch of pissed-off fans however, but hey, they're gonna be headed to this blog soon enough anyway. ^_-

Kohl said...

Nicci, after my previous comments I would hate to be the one to call you out about naivity. Know that I don't do it in a malicious way, rather that you seem full of ideas and a belief that you can change the world. This is a good thing; don't let anyone dampen your spirits.

However, sad to say but I think you'd be on to a lost cause with this one. The site is run by MCR's management, and it obviously exists to generate publicity. There is no way they would enter into a very public discussion about such a subject, but I'm sure many fangirls of the rabid variety would.

Kohl said...

@ anonymous, as stated, I respect your right to do so. So far I have been treated with respect and I have nothing against any of you.

Lynn said...

.
You are mean, and crazy, and so they came to me because they know that I treat people they way they "want" to be treated.

- Nicci


Then you come here and say you like us. Whatever. I don't trust you and i really don't think we need your help. Not trying to be crazy and mean, just calling it as i see it.

Nicci said...

Once again, if you're right, I'm with you.

If you use a fake account, what do you got to loose??

Nicci said...

And what is it that *you* want Lynn?

Nicci said...

See, I treat people as individuals. ^_-

Lynn said...

I want people to quit coming in here and trying to stir up shit.

Nicci said...

And then what exactly are *you* doing here?

I'm trying to make people happy, but *obviously* that's not what you want.

Hmm, no peace, no "shit-stirring"...

What was it you wanted again?

Lynn said...

I'm trying to make people happy, but *obviously* that's not what you want.



You go right ahead and make people happy. Can you tell me how you are doing that? Can you tell me what site you came from?

Nicci said...

I think I already explained that. If you're gonna be rude at least make sure you're up with the conversation... o.O

Nicci said...

Especially since all I know about you is your "name".

Anonymous said...

nicci don't patronize us. I don't care about the 'old' mcr. That was all fake.

Anonymous said...

Around the time of the inception of this blog, and a few times after, Verita Venom and I think a few other people here DID write to your beloved "old MCR" Nicci. Are you incapable of reading or understanding this?

VV's letter she posted on their public MySpace page.

Another bunch of people here posted them on your beloved BN AND on INO.net where the band is known to read (or at least back then they did. Not anymore).

The letters were nicely worded and full of concern about the 180 the band did about their views of women and minorities.

Those efforts failed.

Anonymous said...

Nicca came here to make people happy by calling them crazy and mean.

Because that always works.

Guys, this is a troll and probably Voluptioushitty, if not one of her pet trolls.

Lynn said...

It's funny that i have never been called rude here before. Can i ask again what site are you from?

Nicci said...

And I'm telling you that *now* might be different.

Back then, Gerard was in *cough* love, and the band was on the edge of dissolving.

Try again, if you're right, then I'll agree.

However, I wouldn't suggest if I didn't see a change in his priorities.

He'll listen. He's not an asshole, he just got lost.

As the creator said, this has all happened before.

Only, unlike Cobain and Lennon, Gerard for reasons unknown, is coming back to us.

In fact, fuck the letter then, I have faith that they'll pull themselves out of this.

Heh, in the meantime, if you *are* done with them please sever the ties.

Like with any good breakup a clean break is the only way to go.

You are all strong, reasonable women, don't let five guys you don't even like anymore rule your lives.

Anonymous said...

Lol. "Are you the creator?"

What's next? Take me to your leader?

Anonymous said...

nicci the vampire coming to save mcr from ten sad pathetic bitches. Lulz!

Lynn said...

She wants us to "break up" with the band. LOL! I can't quit you Gerard!!

Anonymous said...

I think the symbol you're looking for to show ~emphasis~ is this one: ~

When people use asterisks, it's usually to denote an action. For example:

*rolls eyes*

Anonymous said...

Oh, and I'm far from ~done~ with MCR.

I'm going to be here laughing and making fun of Gerard and his bad clothes, bad singing, stupid hand gestures and idiotic interviews as long as I like.

Get ~used~ to it.

Anonymous said...

You are all strong, reasonable women, don't let five guys you don't even like anymore rule your lives.

I come here two or three times a week. I'd hardly call that letting MCR rule my life.

Also, by coming here like this, you are giving us power. If you want so badly to get rid of us, we must be hitting a nerve.

Anonymous said...

Only, unlike Cobain and Lennon, Gerard for reasons unknown, is coming back to us.

You're not honestly comparing John Lennon to that fool Gerard, are you?

Your comments are all levels of crazy, Nicci.
You're not our saviour, we don't need you to help us 'sever the ties' or write a public letter to those peabrains.
As pointed out numerous times to you now, we've tried to contact them, they didn't give a fuck. End of story.
Why don't you write a public letter yourself and create an account on their website?

Let's see if they will answer you!

Try it and if you're right then we'll agree!

Lynn said...

Try it and if you're right then we'll agree!



LOL! I will agree in saying WTF?

Anonymous said...


You are all strong, reasonable women,


Troll, I thought we were crazy and mean?

You fail. Hard.

Kohl said...

Is it the general consensus that most of us here are women? Just wondering who it is exactly that is taking a stand on the feminism issuses.

Anonymous said...

I don't think that the five male fans MCR has are interested in engaging in online conversations about the band in general let alone discussing their misogynistic behavior in particular, Kohl. Therefore I think it's safe to say that we're all girls and women on this blog.

Kohl said...

Haha I hear you, fair point. Which is why it was so refreshing to think MCR actually cared about women's rights, and would inspire others to do the same...

Anonymous said...

Is it the general consensus that most of us here are women? Just wondering who it is exactly that is taking a stand on the feminism issuses.

I comment here a lot and I am a woman. In fact, I'm probably the oldest one of the bunch.

I'm 48 and widowed. I'm also the mother of two children: a girl, 19 and a boy, 10.

My daughter and I got into MCR together back in 2005. She was in high school and we used to go to the shows together. She stopped liking them when TBP came out, but I didn't.

My daughter and I went to see PR together (she for Saosin and TBS, me for Linkin Park and MCR). I came away from PR thinking something was terribly wrong. I've since come to the conclusion that the MCR I used to like never existed.

And yes, I am one of the people here who takes a very firm stand on feminism issues. With a nineteen year old daughter in college, how could I not?

Anyway, my name is Karen and I never made an account. But I am most definitely a grown woman.

Anonymous said...

Hi Karen. :)


"Where is the creator of this thing anyway?"

Nicci, why are you so set on finding the blog's creator? Someone has already answered this question anyway. Verita Venom, you know that name in this blog's URL, doesn't come by here much at all to my knowledge. She creates new posts every now and then usually when something note worthy happens with MCR. She gives us a place to vent and express ourselves in a way we couldn't at BN or LJ or other sites.

Anonymous said...

P.S. Prepare to have a bunch of pissed-off fans however, but hey, they're gonna be headed to this blog soon enough anyway. ^_-

Don't worry, we'll have the fly swatters ready ^_^

Anonymous said...

You are all strong, reasonable women, don't let five guys you don't even like anymore rule your lives.
------------------------------------

LOL. Believe me, they don't.

Anonymous said...

Those efforts failed.
------------------------------------

They sure did. I remember the day I got banned from INO. That was hilarious. Ironic though, I ended up meeting my closest friend from there.


I don't thank MCR for that though.

Anonymous said...

You know, coming to this blog dressed as a total fruit loop is not going to get you anywhere...

Anonymous said...

It definitely isn't 9:33.

Maybe Nicci is tallicadude in disguise.

Anonymous said...

what i dont get is why fangirls still think were trying to "bring their rep down" as they say. ive been here for awhile and ive always seen this place first and formost as someplace to vent and discuss with like minded people. if others find this place and see through the bands bullshit than thats great. but last time i checked we dont go around to mcr fan sites promoting this place or trying to convince fans to think like us.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

It's the purest version of the band you could hope for

What's he going to pull out of his ass this time?

Anonymous said...

Link

Anonymous said...

It's the purest version of the band you could hope for

Pure bullshit, no doubt.

Anonymous said...

http://community.livejournal.com/efagz/441577.html

How long before this happens to one of MCR?

Kohl said...

I'm interested to hear what the new album is going to sound like, especially as it's supposedly a huge change from anything they've done before. I know there will be those who will love it no matter what simply because it is MCR and others who will hate it for exactly the same reason.
I'd like to remain open minded. Sure, I've seen the youtube vids of the live performances of their new material, but as it is very difficult to make out the lyrics and sometimes even any sound in general I'm going to hold off judgement until the final studio versions arrive.

Anonymous said...

Those live videos sound dreadful. It would seem that the entire purpose of this new record is to craft songs that are really easy for Gerard to sing, so that they can tour for as long as possible off it.

Anonymous said...

http://community.livejournal.com/efagz/441577.html

How long before this happens to one of MCR?


First of all, if that didn't happen to them by now it will certainly not happen to them in the future. They were on top of their game four to five years ago. Who would care about stalking them now?

About that guy who got stalked by that kid; Yeah, well, those things might happen if you're in a band. Deal with it or get a normal 9 to 5 job. She didn't left a box with a pig heart in it on his porch so I think he should calm down and the people on LJ too. Who's that dude anyway? Should we care?

Anonymous said...

some guy from the band All Time Low, lead singer I think, don't know his name

happyXamp said...

http://community.livejournal.com/efagz/

i would like to point out GW's pic in the top left hand corner

Anonymous said...

Volupshitty talking about Gerard's fatherly love! Hilarious! Does she know him?!

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/mychemicalromance/forum/topics/465701/the-lovely-bones/

Anonymous said...

I think he makes her twinge. Y'know. Down there.

Anonymous said...

Volupshitty talking about Gerard's fatherly love! Hilarious! Does she know him?!

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/mychemicalromance/forum/topics/465701/the-lovely-bones/


I thought it's all about the music and not about their private life for the MCRyans?
So how dare she suggest that film to Gerard just because it reminds her of his private situation?
The only tweets she should be allowed to send to him are questions that only relate to the band and the music. Is she even allowed to know that he's married and the father of a daughter? Is she even allowed to know the name of the daughter? It has nothing to do with their music and yet she talks about it. Mentions them on a public website. *gasps

So it's not only about the music then, huh?!
It's only about the music if they run out of reasons to tell us why they're behaving like total fucktards again.

Anonymous said...

So it's not only about the music then, huh?!

Apparently it's not.

Honestly, a fan thinking about Gerard in relation to that film is one of the creepiest things I've seen. A film about a girl who is raped and murdered and her father is determined to find her killer, all the while the daughter watches from Heaven and tries to help him? This reminds her of Gerard, why? Because he has a daughter? Him and millions and millions of other dads out there.

Does this mean that when she reads about someone driving a car, she thinks of Gerard? After all, he has a car. He eats too. Maybe food commercials on tv remind her of him. Maybe when she passes the hair dye counter at Walmart she thinks of him because he dyes his hair. She probably thinks of him when she sees body wash because she knows how rarely he showers.

I'm sorry, but that's some fucked up shit. That's batshit even by MCR fangirl standards.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but that's some fucked up shit. That's batshit even by MCR fangirl standards.

Yet we're the ones who let MCR "rule our lives".

Anonymous said...

She probably thinks of him when she sees body wash because she knows how rarely he showers.

*laughs* maybe what v is really thinking of is washing him.

Anonymous said...

"It's not like they're worth caring about anymore anyway...."

Three years later and it's still all you people ever talk about.

Hey, Misogynist huntresses, why don't you put up a blog about removing Sean Brown from the public eye (you know, someone who ACTUALLY commits violence against women and whose fans make remarks such as "She had it coming" on his page) rather than spur each other on with these ridiculous conspiracy theories?

The day you all stop trying to analyze every single hand gesture that this band makes is the day we'll all believe that you're not the true fangirls (translation: obsessors.)

Seriously, get some help, get laid and use your powers for good, okay, Sweeties? Like, go help Haiti or something. Jesus.

Anonymous said...

P.S. You're all cowards - whining at everyone who disagrees with you to "leave (you) the hell alone." So what do you even hope to accomplish with this "blog," anyway? Is it all just mental masturbation? If so, stop trying to alarm the impressionable kids that you claim to be so concerned about.

Anonymous said...

dstarpro. What's wrong? INO boring for you these days?

Anonymous said...

Another middle-aged G Way ass kisser.

Anonymous said...

It's not like they're worth caring about anymore anyway...."

Three years later and it's still all you people ever talk about.

Hey, Misogynist huntresses, why don't you put up a blog about removing Sean Brown from the public eye (you know, someone who ACTUALLY commits violence against women and whose fans make remarks such as "She had it coming" on his page) rather than spur each other on with these ridiculous conspiracy theories?

The day you all stop trying to analyze every single hand gesture that this band makes is the day we'll all believe that you're not the true fangirls (translation: obsessors.)

Seriously, get some help, get laid and use your powers for good, okay, Sweeties? Like, go help Haiti or something. Jesus.


Drivel as per usual. "Sweetheart" instead of focusing on what's being said here and thinking it's intolerable to dislike anything about this band or to actually be offended by their stupidity, take your own advise and stop obsessing about this blog. You know, out of sight, out of mind. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

If you guys don't like the fans then why do you keep tabs on them? Just wondering...

Anonymous said...

^They're good to laugh at.

Anonymous said...

Fans keep tabs on this blog and talk about it on their sites. They do the same here. Something to talk about, it's a different outlook. I don't mind rational, respectful fans here, like kohl. Unlike that dstarpro who comes in kicking the door down with melodramatic statements. Another difference is, no one here to the best of my knowledge is going to their forums trying to change their minds or making them stop gushing about the band.

Anonymous said...

Wow, trying to reason with you people is exactly the same trying to reason with the Religious Right: fucking impossible.

You all tuned out every single thing I just said.

Oh and Anon 10:26 (one of the many who isn't even strong enough in their "convictions" to use their real fucking name) please explain to me how my arguments were "drivel," SWEETHEART? I didn't come in here defending anyone, I asked you why you aren't on your soapboxes about actual misogyny.

Your response? I'm obsessed with a band. Coal, meet kettle. One day, when you get to be my "middle" age, you'll realize that there's more to life than whether or not Gerard Way blinked his eyes too many times.

P.S.: Isn't INO where you all used to be? Stop deluding yourselves into believing that anyone is keeping tabs on you, it's sad.

Lynn said...

Three years later and it's still all you people ever talk about.


P.S.: Isn't INO where you all used to be? Stop deluding yourselves into believing that anyone is keeping tabs on you, it's sad.



Sounds like you are keeping tabs on us. You keep saying that we must be fans of the band since we can't let them go. Sounds like you are fan of us and this blog. Really honey,let us go. Cut all ties and move on with your life. We are really flattered that you care.

Anonymous said...

Is Dstarpro your real fucking name? Isn't it one of the many pseudonyms you use?

Anonymous said...

You were saying?...

Anonymous said...

Dstarpro this is a blog specifically about MCR. That's why we talk about them. And fools like you.

Anonymous said...

P.S.: Isn't INO where you all used to be? Stop deluding yourselves into believing that anyone is keeping tabs on you, it's sad.

If you're not keeping tabs on us, why are you here?

Anonymous said...

You all tuned out every single thing I just said.

Cos you really didn't say anything.

Anonymous said...

Why cant these fans realize that their is no agenda here? We aren't trying to sway MCR fans over to our side or destroy MCR as a band. We were all once fans who came to the personal conclusion that they were a bunch of frauds. INO & Buzznet are the places they go to share their love for the band and this is the place we come to share our dissapointment and anger. I think they are so angry because deep down they are afraid that we are right and they don't want to believe they were dooped by a bunch of guys who only wanted their money. And the argument that we are all just jealous because we wanted to marry Gerard ourselves is so laughable that I actually enjoy when they use it because it showcases their stupidity brilliantly.

Oh & this : Misogynist huntresses, why don't you put up a blog about removing Sean Brown from the public eye

First of all I think you mean Chris Brown and I was never a fan of his so I don't feel like I have to share how hurt and dissapointed I am on a blog. I will happily say that I think he's an asshole who is suffering the consequences of his actions by having a much lighter pocket book now.

And in truth, I think that is exactly what will happen to MCR. Less money now that they have abandoned the message that earned them their fanbase in the first place.

Anonymous said...

And the argument that we are all just jealous because we wanted to marry Gerard ourselves is so laughable that I actually enjoy when they use it because it showcases their stupidity brilliantly.

This

Anonymous said...

Oh and Anon 10:26 (one of the many who isn't even strong enough in their "convictions" to use their real fucking name)

Is dstarpro your real name?

You could be anybody. By the same token, one of us could make up ten blogger names and converse with ourselves. Seriously, your reasoning here is so faulty it's almost funny.

Everyone is anonymous on the internet unless they have an official website or a "verified" account on twitter. Don't believe me? Ask Chris Hansen from Dateline.

Anonymous said...

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

-- Oscar Wilde

Anonymous said...

Smart person, that Oscar Wilde.

Karen said...

Once again, the fangirls come in her and talk out of both sides of their mouths.

On the one hand, we are all "obsessed" with MCR and spend way too much time on the internet. On the other, we don't have enough "strength of conviction" to make blogger accounts and speak under our "real names" (names like Nicci the Vampiress or dstarpro or Voluptuosity or mcrfan4eva, I suppose).

This seems contradictory to me because I, for one, do not have the time, inclination, nor interest in making and maintaining a blogger account. I have a job, children, hobbies and a ton of other interests (you, know, one of those "lives" the fangirls are always telling us to get) that take up too much of my time. I come here a few times a week to get caught up and to make a comment or two. I hardly see how that makes me "obsessed" nor how it makes me any less "strong in my convictions" than someone who makes up a silly blue name and offers up a biography of herself than may or may not be true.

I posted the quote by Oscar Wilde and I believe it to be true. I have nothing to win or lose when I speak here anonymously. I simply speak what is in my heart.

Karen said...

*here

Anonymous said...

Do you suppose that Gerard was manipulated by the record company to project such an image? He wasn't powerful enough to do what he wanted...

Anonymous said...

What a load of horrible, twisted, self-absorbed, self-righteous, moralistic, holier-than-thou fucks you are. You are the kind of losers who campaign for the sake of campaigning, to avoid the fact that you have nothing else in your lives.

That is the sad truth. Look in the mirror.

Anonymous said...

You are the kind of losers who campaign for the sake of campaigning, to avoid the fact that you have nothing else in your lives.

Lyn-Z, is that you? Sounds like the crisp-eating comment all over again.

Anonymous said...

You are the kind of losers who campaign for the sake of campaigning, to avoid the fact that you have nothing else in your lives.

You are the kind of person who will defend people you don't know, who wouldn't appreciate your defense and who probably wouldn't even give you the time of day.

Who's the bigger loser?

Anonymous said...

Just saying what I see. I think most people would see the same.

Anonymous said...

Just saying what I see. I think most people would see the same.

Really? So I'm to assume that you're able to see through the computer screen and into our lives? You must be able to considering the conclusions you're coming to.

Anonymous said...

Oh noes! It's the crystal ball anon again!

Lol!

Anonymous said...

Horrible - just horrible.

Anonymous said...

I realise that this has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but...

Someone bid more than $12,000.00 to have dinner with 30stm in a fundraiser for the victims of Haiti. Wow.

I hope the person has lots of money and isn't going into debt or anything to meet their idols.

Wow.

Anonymous said...

The people that post here happen to be of the same opinion and talk among themselves. Just like any other site, really. No one from here goes off to other places to try and change anyone elses opinion, so I can't understand why it's all that bothersome to the folks that keep popping in here.

Anonymous said...

I can't understand why it's all that bothersome to the folks that keep popping in here.

Mte. If we weren't striking a nerve of some sort, they'd just ignore us and go on.

I suspect that deep down they know we're right and that's what bothers them so very much.

Anonymous said...

Dstarpro, interesingly enough, a quick search of your username reveals you to have a livejournal, with which you have added an old 'friend' of Franks: Rose (or Petulant Rose' as she goes by online).

I seem to remember she worked for Skeleton Crew for over a year.

She was eventually fired by Frank's 'best friend' Ed - a man who, according to Rose, is a sexist, and a racist, and drug abuser.

That is straight from your friend's mouth, by the way.

She made a public blog to tell everyone the truth about what kind of people are running Frank's business and the sort of people he likes to have hanging around, giving him 'advice'.

Then her blog was deleted, because she started to recieve threatening telephone calls from Ed and his other friends.

I think you need to seriously take this fight elsewhere if you want to try and convince everyone that MCR are still the people they always claimed to be, don't you?

Why dont you start with your LJ friends list.

Or, you know, you could just call us all 'sad' and cut your friend for finding out that she's been speaking out against the bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Isn't INO where you all used to be?

Nope.

Sad Fuck Anon said...

You are the kind of losers who campaign for the sake of campaigning,
And, um, what are we campaining about?

Anonymous said...

And, um, what are we campaining about?

Yeah, I'd like to know that too.

It's not like we're going all over to fansites and magazines and taking out full page ads in newspapers proclaiming that MCR are gigantic douchebags.

We aren't even the ones who posted the link to this blog on BN. It was the fangirls who did that. So how do they come to the conclusion that we're "campaigning"?

Anonymous said...

Because they are idiots blinded by the fantasy of projection. If they stand up for MCR against the people who have the guts to call MCR out on their bullshit then they think it earns them some MCRmy badge of honor & earn brownie points w/ the members.

Anonymous said...

Who else thinks "Serial Killer Face" is hiding a machete under his coat?

lol.

Anonymous said...

Is there a granade under wifey's hat? Well, there's certainly not a well functioning brain, that's for sure.

Anonymous said...

Who else thinks "Serial Killer Face" is hiding a machete under his coat?

lol.


He reminds me of one of those Columbine killers with that black jacket/coat and it looks like he's about to reveal a pump gun he's hiding under his coat.

Anonymous said...

Just saying what I see. I think most people would see the same.

You mean all of your MCR fan friends?

Anonymous said...

AK47 FTW!

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