So Gerard and Lindsey have a child and in true Hollywood style they named their new accessory "Bandit".
There's some psychology of feeling like a child is a pet, or just wanting to fit in with the "cool" crowd behind this but I'm not up to figuring it out.
What do you guys think?
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that's the first thing i thought when i heard that. but he wrote it in early 08 or late 07. maybe by now he's tightened the leash (on his wallet.)
People have speculated that Gerard was referring to someone in Lindsey's past who hurt her. Maybe an abusive lover or parent. But who knows? Those lyrics are so generic and lame. They could be about anything.
i didn't like the way he acted on the black parade tour. it was like he was a different person from the one i saw on the revenge tour a year earlier.
A lot of people noticed the difference in him and a lot of them blamed it on Eliza. I don't think she had anything to do with it. He was just getting too big for his britches because he thought he'd created such a masterpiece with TBP.
7:58,
Oh my. Those are probably some of the lamest lyrics I've ever read. And the song is just absolutely terrible.
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People have speculated that Gerard was referring to someone in Lindsey's past who hurt her. Maybe an abusive lover or parent. But who knows? Those lyrics are so generic and lame. They could be about anything.
Maybe he was referring to "bannana man"
Your not in love until someone wears a pin with your picture on it. LOL! I think i'm going to give my husband a pin with my picture on it and see if he will wear it to work.
Lol Lynn tell us his reaction when you do.
Where i come from i bet he would get beat up!
Maybe the next time my husband makes me mad i will sneak and put the pin on the back of his shirt and let him go to work. That will teach em! LOL!
In the make believe rockstah world, a smelly, drunk, dumb, talentless, tattooed bimbo, inspires you to wear her mug shot on her chest.
^your
Where I come from, it's called being whipped.
raytoro: M weezy tracking some bass. Shit sounding good!
19 minutes ago from Twitterrific
root notes are like the voices of angels in my ears.
Maybe during the break Mikey took some lessons...
At least Mikey actually plays his bass instead of skipping around on stage and doing backbends. Didn't Gerard call Lindsey one of the best bass players he's ever seen? I can't remember where though.
I think i found a band that offends me about as much as MSI by the way, their called Millionaires, if anyone's ever heard of them
You can barely even hear the bass in MCR's music. Mikey's bass playing is extremely weak. But yeah, at least he doesn't pretend play to a backing track.
OH GOD millionaires. i never thought i'd hear a band that sucks even more then msi but i think with them i have.
Maybe the next time my husband makes me mad i will sneak and put the pin on the back of his shirt and let him go to work. That will teach em! LOL!
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"The World iS Ugly" wasn't written for Lindsey....
The same goes for "Stay". And no, not Eliza either.
gay lover? would explain the "him" part
I wouldn't be surprised. If he's gay, he needs to come out of the closet already.
I thought TWIU and Stay are the same song? Just different choice of tittle.
And so just who exactly is/are the song(s) for then, 11PM? -And a gay lover that has another gay lover? This is getting complicated.
I do also find that song kind of gnawing. Maybe they've revamped it. A bit.
^^I actually really liked Cancer. It was simple. And he could (not sure now) sing it incredibly live. I don't understand the need to roll around and go crazy or whatever while singing it. But I'd take that over the last gig I got. He and Frank both just stood there. Frank looked enraged. Gerard looked bored (but aware). Mikey looked high, but at least he seemed to be enjoying himself up there. Bob was a mass of arms... And Ray was drunk off his ass. I wasn't the only one amazed he was still standing by the end of it. It was all very tense. So I'm pretty sure I'd take "crazy on the floor" verses "I have no interest in this, but I might kick my bandmate's teeth in." Ya know?
I don't think he was being smug when he wrote Cancer. I think he was trying to touch on something he didn't exactly get. I think thats why some people find it so offensive. But the theory that you only have a right to sing/write/paint/create etc, about things that you have experienced or known (especially in order for it to be good or meaningful) isn't really fair. If you look at all of the works created, so much of it is by people who knew so little of their subject matter. And no where near all of it is bad.
I think it is more his attitude towards the end of TBP tour that really set people off that song. I've thought for a long time that he had started using again towards the end of that tour. Thus all his good intentions (false or not) really began to LOOK false.
*Drugs change, ruin, everything. He did it to himself.
"The World iS Ugly" wasn't written for Lindsey....
I think it is about Lindsey. Sounds like he wrote it before she agreed to marry him.
TBP was so awful because not a single song on that album sounds sincere and from the heart.
Just like I said here before, it seems as if Gerard's intention for the album was to make him look so profound and his lyrics so meaningful.
'Bullet' and 'Revenge' sounded good because Gerard was genuine about his feelings while writing the songs.
I think after the big success of 'Revenge' most of his insecurities and problems, which made living his life so difficult just disappeared. So he had to pull things out of his ass for the next album, instead of really feeling them and using it for the creative process.
To sing a song about cancer was really took the cake.
It was so presumptuous of him to do that. The song is total crap and his idea of creating an alter ego called 'the patient' was utter bullshit too.
It was the next step from the 'we are here to save lives' shit.
Now I am here to soothe your pain if you lost someone to cancer. Just listen to my song, or even better yet, buy the whole album and all your pain will go away. I can do that. I'm Gerard Way.
As someone who lost a few people to cancer, I felt ridiculed by the song and Gerard's (stage) antics.
That guy is a stupid motherfucker!
"The World iS Ugly" wasn't written for Lindsey....
Bullshit.
The same goes for "Stay". And no, not Eliza either.
Even more bullshit.
Me thinks G Way wrote the TWIU about his 4,320min & 56 sec relationship just after breaking off with Eliza and before shagging Lyn-Z.
Of course the world is ugly is about Lindsey, who else could it be about? Look at how simple the lyrical content is; it's so she can understand it. Like the girl like won't get it otherwise.
I don't think he was being smug when he wrote Cancer. I think he was trying to touch on something he didn't exactly get. I think thats why some people find it so offensive. But the theory that you only have a right to sing/write/paint/create etc, about things that you have experienced or known (especially in order for it to be good or meaningful) isn't really fair.
I'm the anon who hates Cancer and I don't have the least problem with people writing about things they haven't experienced.
What I do have a problem with is people who deliberately try to push people's buttons and pull on their heartstrings in a manipulative way and think that's "art". I don't think there was anything profound or beautiful about Cancer. There was only, "Oh, poor me. I'm dying and it's hard to die. I'm all icky from chemo and I'm in aaaaaagoneeeeee" in a horrible nasal wail that my ears feel like they were going bleed.
I think it's possible to write a song about death that's beautiful and that touches your soul and makes you appreciate life. Cancer just wasn't that song for me.
Does Mark Hoppus ever tweet Mikey back? Or is Mikey just one of Blink's fanboys trying to get his attention?
I think Gerard wanted to prove to the world how 'empathetic' he was when he wrote Cancer. But it never rang true because, like Siobhan and the other anon said, he was just trying too hard to be profound and it didn't really come from the heart.
somebody on BN tried to say that GW didn't even write the lyrics and that it was Rob, Ray, and Bob.
Gerard proved to the world just how seriously he took being the patient when he cut off all his hair and bleached it blond so he could look sick. He sacrificed his hair for his art.
Yeah. Totally sincere there, Geetard.
^Sorry, that was me.
And it just occurred to me that somebody might misinterpret what I said. I probably should have put /sarcasm at the end.
While your all bitching about how Gerard isnt talking about the baby maybe you should take time to notice that he isn't talking about the new record either. He's just not talking about anything at all. Maybe it's because he is tired of everything he's saying being twisted by people like you or maybe he's having some kind of emotional crisis. Maybe he's drinking again.
I'm worried about him. I don't think it's right for people to be kicking him if he's down.
While your all bitching about how Gerard isnt talking about the baby maybe you should take time to notice that he isn't talking about the new record either. He's just not talking about anything at all.
That's not really new now is it? He never really had the time to greet his fans or say a few words to them after the show either.
It would be nice to think that he's spending his precious time with his child, but somehow I don't believe it.
I guess he will get tired of her pretty soon if he isn't already fed up dealing with his daughter. He's an egotistical asshole and only cares about himself.
I bet he would have liked Susan to be a boy.
Gerard doesn't know how to interact with women. He can put on a show for a short time, but after that his true colors will shine through.
And the mere thought of the two Frankensteins teaching their daughter the feminism according to Gerard and Lindsey Way sends shivers down my spine.
Elisabeth, don't worry. Anyone with half a brain knew you were being sarcastic.
I'm worried about him. I don't think it's right for people to be kicking him if he's down.
We don't know that he's down. He's just had a baby - he should be on top of the world, right?
he's having some kind of emotional crisis. Maybe he's drinking again.
Most of the people here have suspected that all along so how become you're accussing us of twisting his words when you're considering the same conclusion? I'm not getting at you, I just what to know why you think your comment is any different from the ones being made here.
I don't think it's right for people to be kicking him if he's down.
Honestly, I don't think he even knows about this place and if he did, he wouldn't care about our thoughts.
I bet he would have liked Susan to be a boy.
Gerard doesn't know how to interact with women.
My thoughts exactly.
I don't think it's right for people to be kicking him if he's down.
Oh, you mean like Gerard rubbing Lyn-z into Eliza and Kat's faces the way he did. [That is, if Kat existed and gave a fuck by that time.] If you ask me, he deserves all the kicks he can get. I'd like to give him a good swift one in the ass.
I'd like to kick him in the balls
Re: cancer the song.
I loathed it even as I first read the lyrics. Mind you, this is when I was a fan of the band.
The song is pushy, glurgey, and twee. To quote Peter Griffin, "It insists upon itself." ;)
I'm not sure that Gerard was trying to "get in touch with something he didn't understand" as much as he was trying to be all "Ooooh look at me, I understand your pain, I can do pain so well!"
Even though he doesn't understand.
And then, when he bleached his hair so that he could "get into the character of a cancer patient" more, and made it seem like he had made some kind of huge sacrifice and cancer patients should be grateful that someone "got" their pain, I wanted to kick his teeth in for that.
Even when I was a huge fan.
I never played the song on the CD, and when I went to see them live and they closed with it, I left before it was over.
One of the worst songs ever, IMO.
6:50, exactly.
Did anyone here see Tropic Thunder? Kirk Lazarus coloring his skin black so that he could get "the black experience" and yet really he was just being a huge tool who thought way too highly of himself?
Gerard.
TBP was so awful because not a single song on that album sounds sincere and from the heart.
Just like I said here before, it seems as if Gerard's intention for the album was to make him look so profound and his lyrics so meaningful.
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Not to mention he was also trying to make TBP the next Sgt. Peppers.
Did anyone here see Tropic Thunder? Kirk Lazarus coloring his skin black so that he could get "the black experience" and yet really he was just being a huge tool who thought way too highly of himself?
Gerard.
LOL! It's true!
Why is Mikey twittering Gerard? Do you think he's trying to bring out of internet hiding? Is Gerard gearing up for a Twitter comeback?
And now I have to go and watch Tropic Thunder.....
12.04 you do have to watch Tropic Thunder.
Why is Mikey twittering Gerard?
Fuck knows? Why doesn't he just pick up the fucking phone!
It's all about what they want people to see, not just MCR, but all the celebs that tweet each other. I don't mean the random little comments about what they are doing. Some of them can be witty and intelligent (I'm talking celebs in general here, not MCR (obviously)). But just tweeting to another celeb when clearly you could pick up the phone, or text in private, is all about attention, and it makes cringe.
I'm trying to understand something here.
Most of time, the people who post here seem to have genuine reasons for turning against Gerard and MCR.
But suddenly you guys read like TBP is the reason you turned on them. NOT all the vile shit that occured afterward.
It's just an album. Is it more offensive and worse than something from MSI? 'Cause "Geetard" was trying to manipulate people into thinking he was deep? You guys hate him for THAT? What makes him different/worse than any other 'rawk star?' If you were all so aware that he was faking it all along, why bother even being offended by the last album at all? Why listen if you knew it didn't mean anything?
I thought I understood this place a little better. I thought there was more TRUE reason to turn on them. Like the guy bashing on his message and being a dick to his fans. And behaving like a disgusting ass. But over the last few days it's been bitching over an album. -That is no where near as rank as ANYTHING by MSI.
I am suddenly really embarrassed that I thought there was more logic and reason here. This blog IS just hating on GW and MCR. WTF does the guy have to do to please any of you? Man. I would fucking hate having his job. He can never succeed.
And I am worried about him too. I don't see what is wrong with disliking someone yet still caring about them. That's really fucked up just to hate and not give a damn. Where the fuck is the decency in that? -There isn't any. Those of you who show a lack of it, aren't any better than some overzealous singer. /pitiful
You don't need to waste you're time ripping me a new ass either. I simply misunderstood the purpose of this place. I will not post here again.
More than half the fandom dislikes TBP. Where have you been? Buzznet?
I genuinely like TBP, I do. Not all the songs, but I thought it was a massive leap for them. Some songs were very brave.
I just don't get the band anymore. Maybe I should have not bothered to find out more about them. Celebrities tend to disappoint. Just like the people in my real life, weirdly.
No worries.
I am suddenly really embarrassed that I thought there was more logic and reason here.
Orly? Suddenly, huh? It just hit you like a bolt of lightening, did it? And before that you were totally in sync with the rest of us.
Give me a break. What you just wrote is a steaming pile of b.s. and you and everyone reading it knows it.
That's really fucked up just to hate and not give a damn. Where the fuck is the decency in that?
Who is hating? In the entire history of this blog, I've seen maybe one or two people express actual "hatred" for Gerard.
Hyperbole much?
anon i don't think anyone would argue MSI's crap is worse then TBP, what a great deal of people seemt to be arguing over is a couple of the songs on it.. Every person has an album where they don't like some of the songs.
I won't listen to cancer, simply because when i found my friend had it i was listening to that song. I found it ironic but she was terrified she was going to end up like the so called "patient"
1:13,
I've gone back and tried to find one person who said that TBP turned them against Gerard. So far, one person said that the song Cancer and Gerard's actions and words regarding that song was the "catalyst" for not liking the band anymore, so I'm not really understanding where you get idea that TBP is the reason why some of us are "turning on" MCR.
I've also read your comment and the terminology you use ("turning on them", "hating on GW and MCR", "WTF does the guy have to do to please any of you", etc.) and you do not come off as someone who has agreed with anything that has ever been said here, but as a very zealous, protective MCR fan who defends Gerard when bad things get said about him. If that's what you are, then fine. Your opinion is welcome here, but don't come here pretending to be someone you aren't.
I'm trying to understand something here.
Most of time, the people who post here seem to have genuine reasons for turning against Gerard and MCR.
But suddenly you guys read like TBP is the reason you turned on them. NOT all the vile shit that occured afterward.
It's just an album. Is it more offensive and worse than something from MSI? 'Cause "Geetard" was trying to manipulate people into thinking he was deep? You guys hate him for THAT? What makes him different/worse than any other 'rawk star?' If you were all so aware that he was faking it all along, why bother even being offended by the last album at all? Why listen if you knew it didn't mean anything?
I thought I understood this place a little better. I thought there was more TRUE reason to turn on them. Like the guy bashing on his message and being a dick to his fans. And behaving like a disgusting ass. But over the last few days it's been bitching over an album. -That is no where near as rank as ANYTHING by MSI.
I am suddenly really embarrassed that I thought there was more logic and reason here. This blog IS just hating on GW and MCR. WTF does the guy have to do to please any of you? Man. I would fucking hate having his job. He can never succeed.
And I am worried about him too. I don't see what is wrong with disliking someone yet still caring about them. That's really fucked up just to hate and not give a damn. Where the fuck is the decency in that? -There isn't any. Those of you who show a lack of it, aren't any better than some overzealous singer. /pitiful
You don't need to waste you're time ripping me a new ass either. I simply misunderstood the purpose of this place. I will not post here again.
If anyone lacks logic it's you. Emotive drivel trying to support some celebrity you have utterly no conception of. And the biggest absurdity is someone having to justify or having the "right" reasons for the dislike. No one needs to prove anything to you.
Why is Mikey twittering Gerard?
Fuck knows? Why doesn't he just pick up the fucking phone!
Why does he need to pick up the phone? The idiot is recording alongside his brother virtually everyday.
And I am worried about him too. I don't see what is wrong with disliking someone yet still caring about them. That's really fucked up just to hate and not give a damn. Where the fuck is the decency in that? -There isn't any. Those of you who show a lack of it, aren't any better than some overzealous singer. /pitiful
I think most of us were worried about Gerard back during the Eliza era and then even more worried during Pro Rev, but it has been more than two years now. If he's going through a phase, then it's a very, very long phase. You can't worry forever.
a funny thing about MCR fans - its only the crazy fangirls and crazy haters that have hung on to MCR over the past year or so. MCR are so completely irrelevant anymore, nobody actually cares about them, so why do all of you? I seriously doubt their leaving any actual impression on people anymore, real musicians/peoople think they suck/are a joke.
also, I'm a different anon
So why are you here, 8:10? Crazy fangirl or crazy hater? Otherwise, you wouldn't care, right?
I agree that MCR isn't relevant anymore. I think Pro Rev was the turning point for them. The live stream from Detroit was so horrible. If Gerard hadn't started a fight with Frank, everyone would have been talking about how awful the performance was.
And then there was the article about PR in Rolling Stone where essentially the only thing they said about MCR was that Gerard had "wildly tongue-kissed" his guitarist. Nobody (other than Kerrang, which doesn't count, lol) gave a crap about the Ger-Z romance or MSI.
The Watchmen cover of DR went virtually unnoticed by the world - except for the critics and Bob Dylan fans who trashed it.
Now the poor things are trying to sell those awful vests using sock puppets on lj and bn of all places.
I think MCR is over.
MCR are so completely irrelevant anymore, nobody actually cares about them, so why do all of you? I seriously doubt their leaving any actual impression on people anymore, real musicians/peoople think they suck/are a joke.
Why can't anyone make fun of fools that appeared so profound just to make people part with some cash? These types need a good ass kicking.
Why can't anyone make fun of fools that appeared so profound just to make people part with some cash? These types need a good ass kicking.
We can and we do. They deserve it. ^_^
We can and we do. They deserve it. ^_^
And that's the way it should be. Things need to be questioned, you cannot except things at face value like some of these gullible fangirls.
watch how he swings his legs and flips his hair--Mr sincerity
That was pretty disgusting. And all the fangirls could say was, "He's so cute."
he looks drunk and delirious
he looks drunk and delirious
Maybe. Either way trashZ probably thought it was hilarious.
I think maybe Cancer is the only song Gerard ever wrote that was within his vocal range because he actually does do a decent job of singing it live.
But oh, those lyrics. They really are awful and when he rolled around on the floor and kicked his legs and tried to be cute while singing them it just illustrates how clueless he truly is about the subject matter.
I find the combination of his cutesy actions and those maudlin lyrics to be in very bad taste.
I think if you sing the same song for the thousandth time you're gonna start taking some liberties. I also think if the majority of the crowd consists of I luv u gee! fangirls you're not going to deliver a heartfelt performance. It was during his amazing love period and he was trying to impress MSI by making everything seem irreverent.
i thought his grandmother died of cancer.
I'm not sure what his grandmother died of, I don't think he ever gave a specific cause. I do know that he said in interviews that he was not there when she died and he was angry at himself for that.
I thought his grandma went kind of suddenly. I always assumed it was a heart attack.
i don't know just something i heard. maybe fans made it up and assumed the song was about her
Guernica by Brand New is a beautiful song written about losing someone to a horrible disease. I've heard that it was written about the singer's grandfather. It's not overly dramatic or maudlin and the lyrics are gorgeous.
Ever since I was young your word is the word that always won.
Worry and wake the ones you love.
A phone call I'd rather not receive.
Please use my body while I sleep.
My lungs are fresh and yours to keep,
Kept clean and they will let you breathe.
Is this the way a toy feels when its batteries run dry?
I am the watch you always wear but you forget to wind.
Nobody plans to be half a world away at times like these,
so I sat alone and waited out the night.
The best part of what has happened was the part I must have missed.
So I'm asking you to shine it on and stick around.
I'm not writing my goodbyes.
I submit no excuse.
If this is what I have to do I owe you every day I wake.
If I could I would shrink myself and sink through your skin to your blood cells
and remove whatever makes you hurt but I am too weak to be your cure.
Is this the way a toy feels when its batteries run dry?
I am the watch you always wear but you forget to wind.
Nobody plans to be half a world away at times like these,
so I sat alone and waited out the night.
The best part of what has happened was the part I must have missed.
So I'm asking you to shine it on and stick around.
I'm not writing my goodbyes.
I'm not letting you check out.
You will beat this starting now and you will always be around.
I'm there to monitor your breathing
I will watch you while you're sleeping.
I will keep you safe and sound.
Does anybody remember back when you were very young.
Did you ever think that you would be this blessed?
Nobody plans to be half a world away at times like these,
so I sat alone and waited out the night.
The best part of what has happened was the part I must have missed.
So I'm asking you to shine it on and stick around.
I'm not writing my goodbyes.
I think if Gerard's grandmother died of cancer he would have said so when he talked about the song and to my knowledge he never did.
I would try to look up old interviews, but theimmortalityproject.com is no longer with us. Hmmm. Does anybody know why? I know they were always begging for money. I guess the well dried up.
i've always heard Brand New has amazing lyrics. and not just from fans, but also music critics and other musicians.
They do have amazing lyrics. Jesse Lacey is a poet. :)
While I didn't like TBP as a whole I do have to say something about Cancer. Whether Gerard wrote it out of some self importance or a way to show how incredibly in touch he was with pain, that song did help my friend at the time who was dying of the disease. His motive for writing it doesn't matter to me because it did something for her. She had her mother call me from the hospice bed to ask me if I had listened to it yet. I told her I had and that it immediately made me miss her. (she was in New York at the time and I was in our hometown in another state.) What I remember her saying was that she was so touched by the lyric "The hardest part of this is leaving you." She said that it was exactly how she felt. She was not afraid to die, but afraid of leaving all of us. Her fear was how we would handle her death not death itself. She passed away five days after the release of TBP. The lyrics were printed in her memorial per her request.
So, for whatever reason he wrote that song I am just thankful that he did because it gave my friend comfort in her final days.
Still, I think they have all ruined the essence of what the band was for so many people, not just Gerard. I don't ever comment here but I do read because this is the place for people to come and vent about their dissapointments in this band and its members. So thanks for that, just had to get my two cents in. Sorry for the rant.
I'm glad the song was a comfort to your friend. I'm sure it has helped others as well and that is most definitely a good thing, whatever Gerard's motivations for writing it. No matter what he or the other members of the band have done since, if that song helped your friend in her final days, that can't be undone by their actions.
I don't personally like the song, but that's why I love this place so much. We can come here and discuss things like this and sometimes we learn things.
Thank you for sharing your story, 12:05.
12:05 don't apologize. You are always most welcome to come here.
11:52 or anybody else,
will you recommend some songs by brand new for me to listen to? i've heard they are good, but i haven't listened to them before and i don't know where to start other than the song that was posted.
Who's that chick in myspace pose in the front page of MCR.com (at Mikey's twitpic section). i clicked on it and twitpic said the picture doesnt exist anymore.
It's hard to recommend specific Brand New songs because I love every single song off of Deja Entendu and The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me.
I suppose Sowing Season, Millstone and Degausser from The Devil and God, and Guernica, The Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot, Sic Transit Gloria, The Quiet Things Nobody Ever Knows from Deja Entendu are probably the best place to start, although it's really hard to pick favorites from Deja Entendu because that whole record is just outstanding.
Go to the band's myspace. They have a lot of songs streaming there, or if you can get your hands on Deja Entendu, that's even better.
Enjoy. :D
Did Mark Hoppus ever respond to Mikey's tweets because I don't see where he did. I'm not much for twitter though, so maybe I'm not looking in the right place. I think it would be funny if he is ignoring him.
I'm not trying to start any MySpace vs. Facebook fights or anything, but here are more songs on Brand New's Facebook than their MySpace.
http://apps.facebook.com/ilike/artist/Brand+New
Didn't Gerard call Lindsey one of the best bass players he's ever seen?
There you have it; definitive proof of drug taking ;)
2:18, that's only definitive proof of Gerard thinking with his dick, and having exceptionally poor taste in females.
Did Mark Hoppus ever respond to Mikey's tweets because I don't see where he did. I'm not much for twitter though, so maybe I'm not looking in the right place. I think it would be funny if he is ignoring him.
Mark and Mikey are actually talking to each other on the #1stdraftmovielines topic.
Re: GW's and Mikey's Grandma's death. I am sure I read somewhere that she had a routine operation that went wrong. I remember reading GW saying something like, "It's such a shame, because it needn't have happened, some-one messed up a routine operation." I don't think she died immediately as a result of that, but later.
Also I think he did make it home from tour before she died, when she was unwell in the hospital. But I'm sure I read somewhere that he had a bad cold and wasn't allowed to see her, and then she died the next day.
Just thought I'd share.
I read on buzznet that she died of cancer and I never saw anything about any routine operation. I think you just made that up so people would think he didn't know about the suffering people go through with cancer.
Maybe Gerard did not want to exploit his grandmother's death for a song and that's why he didn't talk about it. You are always complaining about him talking too much about Lindsey and not enough about the baby. If he had talked about his grandmother's cancer you would be complaining of that too.
Maybe Gerard did not want to exploit his grandmother's death for a song and that's why he didn't talk about it.
Okay. I can refute that argument with one word: Helena
i saw an interview where Mikey said she died in her sleep
I think you just made that up so people would think he didn't know about the suffering people go through with cancer.
No 8.27, I didn't actually. I was just relaying what I remember reading.
Does anyone think maybe Ray's Grandma died of cancer? His Grandma died around the same time as GW's and Mikey's? I think there is a dedication to both of them on Revenge. I just remember GW and Ray hugging after they performed cancer, right at the beginning of the release of TBP.
I read in Kerrang that his Grandmother was taken to hospital and he and Mikey returned from tour to see her. They arrived late at night and went to sleep thinking that they would see her the next day, but she passed away without getting to see them. :(
I've not heard anything about Ray's Grandmother passing.
Well the version I remember is that it was a routine op but something went wrong and she died. I recall gerard saying something like 'it should never have happened, she should have been coming home the next day' and how he never got to say goodbye.
It would be interesting to know if some of the money they earned from TBP (if they actually ever earned some) went to charity or cancer research.
Oh, I forgot. They didn't even have the money to help their 'friend with cancer' and were dependent on their fans bidding on some worthless crap on eBay to support that ominous friend.
Maybe Gerard did not want to exploit his grandmother's death for a song and that's why he didn't talk about it.
Okay. I can refute that argument with one word: Helena
Seriously. That train left the station a long time ago. Gerard played dear old Grandma's death for everything it was worth. Remember the "This is for you, Grandma!" at the VMA's? How about telling fans to look up at the celing and say, "I see you Grandma!" during the Revenge Tour.
Think before you comment, for fuck's sake.
^And damnit! That was me again. Stupid blogger.
Er....Elisabeth, I'm a different anon but I think you misunderstood the anon your last comment was directed at. The anon is seeing things from your point of view so your rant at them was unecessary and just made you look a bit dim.
The show they played at Maxwells was for charity. Tickets were 100 bucks each with 100% of cash raised going to cancer research.
No, actually, I was agreeing with the anon in bold. But I can see how you misinterpreted since I threw in the "think before you comment" to the original poster.
Don't think it made me look dim, though.
HA! maybe elisabeth should take her own advice and think before she comments.
"The anon is seeing things from your point of view so your rant at them was unecessary and just made you look a bit dim."
Did you not see Elizabeth say "Seriously"? Why did you feel the need to correct her? Are you the anon who rags on BC?
I think you just made yourself look a bit dim.
I just made the comment about the Maxwell show. I'm not one of the anons being rude.
Lol. Yes, come here and nitpick every little thing and try to make the posters look stupid. Only, it's not going to work. It didn't work with BC and it's not going to work with me.
You're the one who misinterpreted who my comment was directed at. So who are you calling dim?
HA! maybe elisabeth should take her own advice and think before she comments.
Ha! Maybe you should take your personal attacks back to BN.
The show they played at Maxwells was for charity. Tickets were 100 bucks each with 100% of cash raised going to cancer research.
Good to know. I would have found it a bit weird to have a song about cancer on the album and not giving a certain sum to charity related to that disease.
I hope that this is true, though.
I think the only one, who didn't understand Elisabeth's comment and to which post it was referred to is that anon calling her out on her alleged 'dimness'.
You are right about the Maxwell show, anon. Also, MCR has done a lot of work for the Make a Wish foundation. I think most bands do shows for charity. It's almost a necessity for PR purposes.
I still can't stand Cancer, though. I respect the opinions of those who do, however. Apparently, it did help some people who were going through the disease (like 12:05's friend) or their friends and family, and that's a wonderful thing.
Thanks, Siobhan. :)
I'm only telling it like it is. ^_^
MCR charity work
I think most bands do shows for charity. It's almost a necessity for PR purposes.
Even when they do good stuff, you have to malign it. I really don't believe they do all the charity work they do for PR purposes. They are modest about what they do and they do it because they want to. I've been disappointed with each member of that band at some point, but I would never try and detract from the good work they do for charity.
Just butting in here. I read the other day about someone seeing a bunch of MCR CDs in a Salvation Army shop. Last week when I was killing time on my lunch break (I don't get the full hour if I'm in the office) I went into a charity shop and saw Bullets, Revenge and TBP for £1 each. Just thought I'd share.
Well, I'm not an admirer of their music anymore, but I still have my Revenge cd and LOTMS dvd.
I don't listen to and watch it anymore, but it reminds me of the 'good old days' (in which they were clever enough to hide their true colors and I was dumb enough to believe their bullshit) and I don't intent to sell them. I guess I wouldn't get much for it anyways.
"How about telling fans to look up at the celing and say, "I see you Grandma!" during the Revenge Tour."
I'd heard about that last part before and it really creeped me out.
Maybe Gerard did not want to exploit his grandmother's death for a song and that's why he didn't talk about it. You are always complaining about him talking too much about Lindsey and not enough about the baby. If he had talked about his grandmother's cancer you would be complaining of that too.
The man talks crap 99.9% of the time. And if he wants to talk about his chicken-armed wife, he is more than welcome to do so. He just has to deal with the flak that comes with it.
I guess I wouldn't get much for it anyways.
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Probably not Siobhan. I tried selling my TUA comics, but it seemed no one wanted them. I haven't read them since I first bought them so because of that and the fact that they were just wasting space, recently I decided to dump them all in the recycling bin.
I threw away all my MCR CD's and merch, and I haven't looked back since.
Even when they do good stuff, you have to malign it. I really don't believe they do all the charity work they do for PR purposes. They are modest about what they do and they do it because they want to. I've been disappointed with each member of that band at some point, but I would never try and detract from the good work they do for charity.
You must come from the Voluptuosity school of logic. I merely pointed out that most bands do charity work and that it's good for PR and you accuse me of "maligning" MCR. That's preposterous. It's a fact that most bands do contribute to charity in some way. MCR is not unique in that.
You see, that's the thing. Your unquestioning devotion to MCR disrupts your thinking processes.
Musical artists and other entertainers have been contributing to charities for a long time. It's nothing new and it is very, very good PR. That doesn't mean that's the only reason they do it and nobody said it was. But it doesn't change the fact that it does help their public image.
To the 1:13 anon who felt the need to enlighten us all with her beliefs regarding our "hatred" for Gerard:
I know this is late and you said you weren't going to comment here again, but for some reason I'm betting you're still checking in to see how people responded to your post.
You said you used to think you understood where everyone was coming from on this blog, but you obviously didn't if you think all we do is talk about Gerard's contridictions all day long. As frequently as Gerard makes an ass out of himself, believe it or not, sometimes, there's just nothing new to talk about regarding him. This comment you made kind of angered me about your post:
But over the last few days it's been bitching over an album.
Yes over the past few days people have been discussing TBP. So what? How in the hell does a few day conversation overtake everything we've ever said on this blog? It's like suddenly since people have posted their opinions about the ablbum, some positive, some negative, that somehow means that's the sole reason we feel the way we do about the band at this time. It doesn't matter the amount of times we've called him out on his hipocracy and lying, we're obviously just bitter old haters who despise him for no reason.
So many people have come and gone from this place, but why do some people always feel the need to, I don't know, leave with a bang. If you truly are done with this place, why do you need to comment and try to bring the people here down? If you feel like you can move on and you don't need this place anymore, then good for you, but don't try to make others feel bad about not exactly being in that place yet.
A list of Make A Wish Foundation Award winners over the past several years with people as diverse as Donald Trump, the Backstreet Boys, The National Hockey Association, the Cast of Charmed, and Billy Ray Cyrus.
It's a wonderful organization and MCR should be commended for their work, but as you can see, it doesn't make them unique.
None of you have to justify liking/hating MCR. They are just a band. And really, who cares if you do hate them? Where does it say you have to like a band or hate them for the right reasons? Taste is a very subjective thing. These people are not above being disliked. It's not like you are chasing them with a pick-axe down the street; you are voicing your feelings on the subject.
These people that come here are just baiting you with emotive reasoning without real logic. They are not worth the time arguing with them unless they want to state their point of view in a non-attacking way.
Gofackadawg: Politics is the art of controlling your environment...
10:09 PM Jul 9th from web
Siobhan, I just wanted to comment on how well you know English for not being a native speaker. (right?) A heck of a lot better than a lot of native speakers I know.
Gofackadawg: Politics is the art of controlling your environment...
Because I really need a sixteen year old girl to tell me the definition of politics.
*rolls eyes*
Speaking of selling your old CDs, I took my Black Parade LE to the used bookstore a few weeks back and was told they didn't want it because they already had too many of them which they couldn't unload. So, I put it in the Freebee bin.
i hate saying this but i really liked and still like the artwork for that album not the crappy gray cover but the actual artwork. i remember hoping they would release it as a poster or something
Totally off subject but...
To the anon who was asking about Brand New songs, Millstone is my favorite.
Sidenote: He's saying "I'm my own stone around my neck," not "millstone" or "milestone." There has been a lot of contention over that. Lol.
6:19,
I liked the artwork too.
I thought the artwork was cool, too, but by the time they finally did TBPID, I was soooo sick of the Black Parade concept and those uniforms! And I remember they were pushing valentine cards with that imagery even this year on the website, which was ridiculous. Mother War on a Valentine card was just not a good idea, even back in 2007 when people gave a fuck.
The band should have taken a break and done a new record a long time ago. I think touring on TBP for two years was a huge mistake.
the last leg where the they played all the smaller venues was a huge mistake. I thought that it was Gerard's way of saying "hey we're gonna continue touring so i don't have to go home and be with the wife." I also wondered if it was just Gerard's idea or if it was evryones
the last leg where the they played all the smaller venues was a huge mistake.
I think so too. After they made such a big deal of TBP "bringing back arena rock" the small venue tour was kind of a WTF move. It made it seem like they couldn't afford the big stage show anymore.
I know Gerard claimed that the band wanted to "get closer to fans, blah, blah," but that didn't exactly ring true, considering that he was a recluse during the entire time - I don't think he came out and met the fans or gave autographs at all.
So, did anyone else saw that Mikey twitted about the possibility that the band were going to play Reading and Leeds?
Yes BC I saw that. I've just checked the line up, and no sign of MCR. Must say it's a pretty good line up.
Link
I saw that earlier. I don't really know why they would want to. This year most of the bands playing that festival are indie and pop bands. MCR playing with Radiohead, Kings of Leon and The Killers? They'll probably just get bottled again.
^whoopsie. I meant to say Arctic Monkeys, not Killers. :/
Yep, my thoughts exactly ^
My thoughts exactly, was re the bottling btw.
They aren't on line up. But they festival isn't for another month and a half so they could sign up. They won't be headlining though. Thursday, Bouncing Souls, Fall Out Boy, Billy Talent and The Gallows are playing and they are friends with MCR so they might want to join them. Plus Mikey like Radiohead. Who knows?
Some people on lj have been talking about it and they said it's not too late for them to sign on as "special guests". But what stage would they play on and where would they fall into the lineup?
They could get on the NME/Radio 1 stage. I doubt there is room for them on the main stage, and if so, they'd be way down the list. Radio 1 have a soft spot for them.
I can't imagine seeing them again. Would they pull out the same tired old shit from TBP and Revenge? How many times can Gerard possibly sing I'm Not Okay and Famous Last Words? I suppose they would do some new songs, but people don't want to listen to a whole set of stuff they don't know.
Maybe they would do some songs from Bullets?
I hope they don't play the main stage. I'd be pretty pissed if I went to see Radiohead or KoL and had to sit through The World is Ugly. They probably will get bottled.
Maybe Gerard will tell Thom Yorke that MCR is the best band in the world. Lol. I'd love to see his reaction to that.
Ooooh, or maybe he'll say that to one of the Followills. They would so totally kick his ass.
I can't imagine seeing them again. Would they pull out the same tired old shit from TBP and Revenge? How many times can Gerard possibly sing I'm Not Okay and Famous Last Words? I suppose they would do some new songs, but people don't want to listen to a whole set of stuff they don't know.
Yeh it seems really odd timing. It's like they are doing the gig before they are remotely ready. I guess they will do new stuff?
They are so gonna get bottled. They never seem to learn do they?
1:17,
Probably not. If they get bottled again, I wouldn't be surprised. I remember watching a video on youtube where the lead singer from Panic at the Disco getting knocked out by one.
there is room for four acts on the main stage for saturdy @leeds and sunday @reading. my guess is they would put mcr in between yeah yeah yeahs and vampire weekend? they'd be playing the same stage as radiohead.
mikeywayr-e-a-d-i-n-g -a-n-d- l-e-e-d-s
35 minutes ago from web
Mikey seems pretty sure they will be there.
Maybe after Gerard gets hit in the head with a bottle, he'll have a legitimate reason to roll around on the stage.
maybe 1.35?
One of my best friends who lives in the UK is going to see Brand New at Leeds. She's going to be so mad if MCR winds up playing after them. She hates MCR even more than we do.
The band is going to be touring soon whether you idiots like it or not. Soon you'll be seeing their faces every time you go to the newsstand and hearing them every time you turn on the radio. Deal with it.
different anon, but they played a lot of new stuff the last time they played reading. yeah they got bottled, but they were an overall success for their album and tour.
Another thing, MCR was able to get MSI on the main stage at last years Reading. What makes you think they'll have trouble getting on the main stage? They'll probably play right before the headliner blow them out of the water. Wait and see.
I was with you up until
"They'll probably play right before the headliner blow them out of the water. Wait and see."
Have you been watching the same live performances that we have?
MCR is known for being a terrific live band. Only haters think they aren't. I hope they play right before The Kings of Leon and everybody leaves after MCR's set.
This has to be a troll.
they're "good live" like msi are "good live" - energetic and entertaining but embarrassing musical quality wise.
"MCR is known for being a terrific live band. Only haters think they aren't.'
Have you been listening to the same singer I have? Lol. For some reason the word "terrific" doesn't come to my mind. The band as a whole seemed so out of sync with eachother during the past couple years of touring.
You can call me a troll if it makes you feel better, but deep down you know I'm right. MCR is more popular than nearly every band in that lineup. I never even heard of the Kings of Leon before people started talking about them here and I don't know anybody who listens to Radiohead or the Arctic Monkeys.
Not to be rude but you basically just admitted you were a troll. How would you know poeple here talk about KoL if you didn't come here often? If you don't like what's being said, you don't have to come here.
"Have you been listening to the same singer I have?"
Yes I have. I've watched my Black Parade is Dead video maybe a thousand times. Have you even seen it once? Gerard's voice is beautiful.
No I haven't seen it, I wouldn't waste my money on it. But I have seen numerous live videos and none have impressed me at all. I also heard that TBPID was very obviously overdubbed, but I haven't seen it, so I don't know.
I know I can't change anyone's mind here and I don't want to. MCR does not need you as fans. I just want you to know that all of their fans haven't deserted them. We will be there to support them at their shows and we'll be there to buy the new cd. Their success will be our revenge and that is all I have to say.
I watched TBPID with my mother, who isn't a fan but doesn't hate them, and she said "wow doesn't that sound auto tuned?" The audio just sounds weird in places, like it was edited.
And excuse you, unless you've been living under a dark rock where KOL is unknown in the US and MCR is the #1 band, but KOL is all over radio and music TV in the states.
I'm not trying to say it's a bad thing you're a fan, and I know they still have many fans, but not nearly as many as they use to, or atleast, not nearly as many fans that liked them solely for their music. These days, it seems like their concerts are filled with screaming teenies and only a few true fans. The teenies will soon move on, and then what? I wonder who will be left then.
Kol is even more popular in the UK and have been for years now. How exactly do you think they managed to get a headlining spot at Reading/Leeds?
How exactly do you think they managed to get a headlining spot at Reading/Leeds?
Lol, maybe Gerard got it for them, seeing as how according to this anon, they got MSI a spot on the main stage last year.
These days, it seems like their concerts are filled with screaming teenies and only a few true fans. The teenies will soon move on, and then what? I wonder who will be left then.
Voluptuosity?
well I do think their popularity from the marriage ultimately got them the spot.
I agree. If Gerard and Lindsey hadn't gotten married, MSI probably wouldn't even have been at Reading, let alone the main stage.
How exactly do you think they managed to get a headlining spot at Reading/Leeds?
Blowjob
"MCR is known for being a terrific live band. Only haters think they aren't.'
Only a fangirl would say they are a terrific live band.
"Voluptuosity?"
Lol
Soon you'll be seeing their faces every time you go to the newsstand and hearing them every time you turn on the radio. Deal with it.
Where I live, they don't play MCR on the radio. I doubt that's going to change.
I thought MSI got on the main stage cos some other band wanted to leave early so they took their spot and that meant they moved up the billing/line up position.
MCR is more popular than nearly every band in that lineup. I never even heard of the Kings of Leon before people started talking about them here and I don't know anybody who listens to Radiohead or the Arctic Monkeys.
The fact that you don't know anyone who listens to Radiohead is enough for me to know that you are one of those narrowminded teenagers who don't give a shit about musical credibility and only care about what other teenagers around you perceive to be cool. It is fine that you still love MCR, I find myself occasionally slipping Bullets or Revenge into the cd player of my car, but come on, Radiohead are one of the best bands ever.
I work in the industry and can tell you that Radiohead consistently sell records despite how long the record has been out. They are amazing live and write incredibly articulate and complicated musical masterpieces. Radiohead is still played in heavy rotation on alternative radio, something MCR isn't.
MCR may or may not have a huge come back with their next record but my guess is that their success will be dependent on fans like you who are all about this MCRmy image and standing behind the band no matter how deluded the message has become. I figure they'll be lucky to make enough off the next record and tour to pay back their record company and fulfill their contractual obligation. I would be very surprised if we see another record from them as a major label release. If they do more records after this I bet they will be on smaller labels with much less money being handed their way.
I agree with everything you said, 5:39.
You won't find many Radiohead records at the Salvation Army for two bucks, I'll tell you that. Once people buy a copy of OK Computer or Kid A, they hang onto it for life.
I was lucky enough to see them in concert last spring and they were amazing. They played for three hours and still, when they left the stage, the crowd of about 20,000 wanted more.
MCR has a long, long way to go before they're even on the same plane as these guys.
the band didn't get this arrogant all on their own. deluded fans like 3:25 that feed their egos constantly are to blame for alot of it.
I bet you twitter the guys every day telling them how awesome and hot they are, and how you can't wait for their new album, and how they could blow Radiohead out of the water any day.
Disgusting.
MCR has a long, long way to go before they're even on the same plane as these guys.
Now, Elisabeth. Did you forget? MCR is THE BEST BAND IN THE WORLD!
I know this because Gerard said so, and if Gerard says it, it just HAS to be true.
*rolls eyes*
MCR is THE BEST BAND IN THE WORLD!
Apparently, 3:25 thinks they're the ONLY band in the world.
How can you be alive and living on planet Earth and not have heard of Kings of Leon?
How can you be alive and living on planet Earth and not have heard of Kings of Leon?
Maybe she's an alien?
Maybe she's an alien?
Lol. I don't know, Sex on Fire and Use Somebody have gotten so much radio airplay I suspect even aliens have heard them by now.
I love KoL, but I gotta admit, I like their older stuff better.
I was convinced KOL was from the UK until very recently.
"MCR is known for being a terrific live band. Only haters think they aren't.'
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I don't know. Having thousands of screeching little girls and hearing the front man talk about bullshit between sets doesn't constitute a great live band for me, not to mention the unshakable feeling that you were at some Backstreet Boys concert instead of some emo band's.
Soon you'll be seeing their faces every time you go to the newsstand and hearing them every time you turn on the radio.
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Lol, where have you been? Where I live, not even the popular radio stations play MCR, and I barely don't ever see their faces grace the cover of magazines.
The difference between MCR and bands like KOL, Radiohead, Placebo ect. is more then just their fanbases. Those bands are true artists as opposed to just a product like MCR has become. You would never find those bands peddling ridiculous vests and poorly made masks to a bunch of teenies in the name of the almighty buck. They care about their art and it shows in their music which is far more complex then MCR could ever dream of being. MCR may have had the original hope of being serious musicians and being taken seriously by their peers in the business but they have abandoned all of that for the "image" and fame they think they have in their pocket. Gerard can't even make it through an entire set without reaching the end completely out of breath and looking bored and Frank flails around so much on stage that he misses most of his intended chords anyway.
I understand MCR's appeal to younger audiences and I do appreciate them for what they are, just as I appreciate MSI for being a novelty act and nothing more. I do believe Bullets and Revenge were honest attempts at creating something unique and different and I still listen to them sometimes. But I believe this album will be simialr to TBP. Radio friendly singles wrapped in the emo pinup boy image. Exactly what every 15 year old hot topic mall rat is looking for.
10 pounds that mcrmy freak was frances coming to the defense of her mates
MCRMY crazies killed the blog.
Gerard has more followers than Slash. He must be very proud.
http://twitter.com/SlashHudson
Albeit, Slash has had an account for half as long as Gerard. But Gerard still has more. So he wins.
MCR is known for being a terrific live band. Only haters think they aren't. I hope they play right before The Kings of Leon and everybody leaves after MCR's set.
You're a comedian, aren't you? I hope you come back, you're just TOO funny!!
I'm convinced that the MCR fandom is now mainly comprised of knuckleheads.
I thought MSI got on the main stage cos some other band wanted to leave early so they took their spot and that meant they moved up the billing/line up position.
Correct! They got to Reading because of the coverage in Kerrang which was because of the marriage and then on the day they played, The Dropkick Murphys want to leave early and MSI took their place making them MUCH higher on the line up, not that many people actually attended the gig.
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