Monday, December 31, 2007

"This note should be pretty easy to understand."

In my last post I called out Gerard because he was telling the audience "go fuck yourselves" and a lot of people defended him by saying that it was not disrespectful to the women in the audience because he asked everyone to do it.

Then I ask you to take a look at this concert review which proves that wrong. It goes like this.

I want to hear all the ladies fuck themselves........
Because I'll have you know I fuck myself on a daily basis. It goes like this.

You're gonna touch yourself make it sound convincible

Ladies…you're gonna spend most of the rest of your lives doing this.


What can I say? I can't say anything that hasn't already been said by a friend of mine who gave me permission to quote her. That is a brave thing to do considering the way this blog itself gets treated, and the way anyone gets treated who speaks out against Gerard's behavior. Death threats. Wishes of rape. Insane fannish behavior. Kapunua I commend you for your willingness to stand up against this kind of craziness.

She calls him,
someone who verbally abuses teenage girls under the flag of "feminism"--so much more dangerous than any drunken retarded ass-slapping fratboy, because most girls at least know that they do not pretend to represent feminism.

And

Gerard Way? I probably don't have to tell you that he was what drew me to MCR. It was his feminism and his activism that made me curious about the music, with which I fell in immediate and passionate love. It was "I'm Not Okay," I cried the first time I saw the video. I thought, "These guys get it."
At least most times in the recent past, I thought he was still in there, that maybe he was going through a phase or some kind. That he was just a mess, he maybe didn't realize what he was saying or how many people he was letting down. I thought maybe he was just falling apart.
I thought for a while that maybe he didn't realize that his words were not only harmful, but hurtful, too. I had hoped, at least early on, that the guy who said such awesome things was in there somewhere. That even if he stopped needing to say them, he still actually believed them, and would not do the direct polar opposite of them.

Does someone like Gerard Way realize how much it hurts to be spoken to like that? How awful of a feeling it is to be disrespected, not because of anything you've done, but just because you're a different gender than he is? How helpless of a feeling it is to watch him verbally abuse little girls who don't know any better, who think that it's the greatest thing they've ever heard? And then for him to turn around and call it "feminism?" And that you can't say or do a thing about it, because he's rich, famous and successful and has a horde of devoted followers who would sooner piss on your corpse than let you speak a word against him?

Does someone like Gerard Way understand how much it hurts to laughingly be told "this is how it will be all your life?" This is what women should expect from men. This is what women should expect from men who are feminists. Women, this is as far as you go in life. Jerk off for me and moan for me. It's all you're good for.

He used to say that he understood how much things like that hurt, but like with so much else, he lied. There is nothing in words like that but cruelty.

I also know, as I'm sure many people would love to point out, that none of this will ever make a lick of difference to the band. Nor would it even if I said it directly to any of them. They've got their fans. They've got enough money and adulation that one girl walking away (for the right reason) isn't going to phase them in the least. Gerard Way, he's got to know that he's got all these young girls eating out of his hand, and he's feeding them a future of misunderstanding what it is to be a woman, and he's doing it on purpose now and laughing about it. "Hey, it's just a joke, I wanna see how far I can go." "Hey girls, you're just a joke. How far can I make you go?" Nothing I say or do is going to change that. Rock stars have been treating women like whores since rock and roll began, even before. A small amount of women have been asking them not to for just as long. None of them have ever listened, so it's not about to change now--I get that, I do.

Really all I can do is shake my head and hope that someday, when those girls grow up, they'll look back on their crush on Gerard Way and simply be embarrassed by it. All I can do is hope that they will figure the world out and realize that they are good for more than acting like whores because some dude with a microphone told them to.


And
And it's not as if he doesn't know what he's saying, either, because he's tried subtly to defend it. Except, how he keeps flying the feminism banner is what is so destructive. There are bigger issues in the world than one rock star and his "OH, WOE!" issues. How women are treated is one of those issues and he's spitting all over it. He knows his fanbase is comprised largely of young girls.
Now if he pulls out the "It's just a joke!" those girls will mostly go, "LULZIES oh Gerard you are so funny and hot!!" And if he pulls "I'm just pushing the boundaries" he gets "OH Gerard you are so edgy and hot!!!" Those young girls eat up everything he says and he's even said in the past that he realizes this fact.


I couldn't have said it better.

Now onto MSI, who many people defended (in terms of MCR supporting their act) by calling it satire or shock value. Here is an interview where they specify that they are not doing anything for shock value.

To quote an anonymous on my other entry,

Romana: Ok.. so I found this written in one of the articles about you where you were called: ´Shocking rockers of this generation´.
Everyone goes silent for a moment.
Jimmy: Really?
Romana: Well I was just gonna ask you if that’s like the right thing for you, or you don’t really care what you are called.
Jimmy: I don’t know if that’s like totally correct. I mean we don’t necessarily…
Steve: We don’t go out of our way to shock anybody, or to get a title. I don’t think that’s necessarily accurate.
Jimmy: I mean it’s not surprising!
Steve: If it is, it’s unintentional. I don’t like bands that are intentionally shocking; I think that’s pretentious.


So it appears that the argument for their lyrics being for "shock value" and "satire" is dead in the water.

92 comments:

Anonymous said...

Verita Venom, I am proud to call you my friend, regardless of the idle and pathetic threats that some of these fangirls have been given to you for the past few months. Frankly, some of their comments has caused me to laugh. The point is, keep doing what you do best: Don't be afraid to speak your mind! Don't let those oppress you from voicing your opinions. Continue to let your voice be heard and don't be a mindless zombie. That goes for Kapunua too.

As for MSI's lyrics being used for "satirical purposes".....just a lame ass excuse being used in order to excuse their child porn and disgusting lyrics, nothing else.

Gerard's behavior towards the female fans does indeed piss me off, but I will hold my judgements until he comes up with another bullshit excuse than the "I'm only joking" one. Shame on him.

Anonymous said...

So VV, you now take the opinion of a random reviewer as fact? Point us to a link on YouTube so that we may verify these supposed statements as fact.

Anonymous said...

Oh, damn.

There all over Youtube.

I don't have time to search. But, um, type in "Gerard Way" and "sexist pig," or "Gerard Way" and "change in values" or something. I do believe you'll have a video or ten pop up.

Kidding, only I'm not in a way.

I know. I know. It's hard to come to terms with the fact that someone who held so much regard, someone who was looked up to for his gorgeous looks, someone who felt so passionate about his place in this world, someone who cared about forthcoming generations, someone who preached the gospel to every preacher. Okay, that went a little far. But, you get me.

It's hard to see someone like that fuck up everything he and his band have worked for.

It's a shame, too. I believed in that band. I believed that they were changing the face of music and, more specifically, rock music. But, now, I'd lump them into the likes of all the other shitty ass rock bands that weren't in it for anything but getting laid and making a buck for booze.

And I'm sorry Gerard drug the other four down with him. Because they were all better than that. We can now only hope that one or all five see that their message and their image of being positive role models for their fans has become non-existent and that they fight like hell to do some damage control.

Going to an MCR concert was like going to church for outcasts. It was a place to go to "belong." It was a place fans could go to feel a part of something bigger than themselves.

Now it's about fucking and degradation.

*waits for rebuttals regarding "Prison"*

I enjoyed it while it lasted. There's possibly a sliver of rope still connecting me to this band. Only one person holds the scissors and she's not going to cut it, are you? ;) Maybe all of this will clear itself up before the new record. That is if there ever will be one.

Onto MSI...

How much do I love that all of the fans who excused the inflamatory lyrics of that band got put in their place?

This much!

It makes me laugh actually because they all wanted to believe it was satire. And it wasn't! Because that band doesn't go out of it's way to shock people.

Naturally occuring.

And that's nauseating.

And now that we have that interview as proof, I would love to hear the excuses MCR fans come up with next regarding the lyrics.

I'm genuinely sorry for the ex-fans, the hangers-on, and the diehards. I'm sorry because I thought we all had something to believe in. I think I might have been wrong.

Anonymous said...

Hey look at me do the homophone thing again!


*THEY'RE all over Youtube.

Anonymous said...

I thought that maybe VV could provide me with a link, since she obviously has way too much time on her hands. I still say that your beloved VV is an obsessed crazy person. Here is an idea: If you now hate MCR or Gerard.. WALK AWAY!

Anonymous said...

You want a link to a video of it,
G: Ladies, you are gonna spend most of the rest of your lives doing this
And if you need to see other times that he has said similar things as of late, just type "Gerard Fuck Yourselves" into the search box and you can find many from recent shows. It doesn't require very much time at all. Spin away...

And anonymous @ 11:10p, if you hate VV and her words so much, why don't you walk away from this blog.

Fimble Star said...

Anonymous said...
I thought that maybe VV could provide me with a link, since she obviously has way too much time on her hands. I still say that your beloved VV is an obsessed crazy person. Here is an idea: If you now hate MCR or Gerard.. WALK AWAY!

December 31, 2007 11:10 PM




ok so if she has to much time on her hands then EXCUSE ME WHAT ARE YOU DOING. surely you have WAY TOO much time on your hands to give a damn about 1 persons thoughts that she writes in her own personal blog.

oh think about it. the more you and your amry friends come here spouting at her, the more she is going to stand by what she thinks and i for sure can think for myself and agree with some of the things she says

ok listen anon. the point of it is you cant tell her she has to much time on her hands to win a bloody little arguement. well it isnt really an arguement is it. do you see her coming in and telling you to bugger off, NO but i do see a lot of anons come in here and say the same shit over and over again.

maybe you should take your own advice and WALK AWAY from this blog and back to your own little fan club that allows you to blindly follow someone who LOVES to get teenagers to fuck themselves and listen to it.

oh and if you may be confused about that last bit i was talking about gerard way not jimmy urine but hey we all know that the army follows msi now. because they are the next best thing since sliced bread. isnt that right.

god sarcasm is on fire.

Anonymous said...

This may be of interest to some people.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=3409902

Anonymous said...

^^^Is it going to make me throw up?

Anonymous said...

It might make you throw up since it is Mindless Self Indulgence. Jimmy urine making fun of MCR on stage and joking about Hitler at the same time.

It's not the first time. There was an interview damned if I can find it, where Jimmy Urine says that Gerard Way looks like a fat panda and Lyn Z laughs and says "ooooh I like it" or something like that.

Yeah, MSI supported them from the beginning. Definitely. Keep telling yourself that Gerard.

VV you should find that and make a post. People believe everything Gerard says but you always bring the proof.

Anonymous said...

Here is the typical person who listens to Gerard while he does these things:


*yawn*

I'm tired of these stuffs..

face it.. everybody has a naughty side..

it's him.. so just bear w/ it..

anyway, masturbating infront of a guy IS GROSS!!

(I'm only 12 years old.. *blink*..)

anyway.. JUST LEAVE HIM AND HIS ACTIONS ALONE!!

Anonymous said...

To the Anon who posted the video:

I've come to expect nothing less from MSI. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume (with the full intent an ass of myself will be made) that Jimmy Urine spoke highly of Hitler in this piece. Just a hunch.

*waits for MCR fans to support that, too*

Thanks for posting it though.



To the Anon @ 10:15--

Exactly, a 12 year old. This has never been about age for me because music is music. Everybody sees something different in it, but a fan that young really has no basis for argument when it comes to the overbearing sexuality Gerard is now exuding onstage.

And in case the aformentioned "typical person who listens to Gerard while he does these things" made their way here:


face it.. everybody has a naughty side..

And in Gerard's case, it needs be kept off the stage in the form he's now chosen to use. Degrading women with his "Fuck yourselves" routine will not be tolerated by this fan.

it's him.. so just bear w/ it..

So, because it's Gerard and he hung the moon, it gives him a 'Get out of jail free' card? Yeah?


No.

He's just an ordinary person in an extraordinary position. He's no different from Joe Blow on the street who's ass would be thrown in jail for doing what Gerard does onstage. It's gross. And someone needs to give him the memo.


Him and his actions ruined this band.

Pretty sure I'm not going to leave it alone.

Music is my life, and this band was a huge part of it.

I'm not going to go down without letting my voice be heard, nor will I go down without fighting his newfound message tooth and nail.

Anonymous said...

It was my pleasure to post that video. I'm trying to get a couple more because this isn't the first time they've made fun of MCR.

I have no doubt that Gerard's new performance style and attitude is a desperate need to impress them.

I guess now that Gerard is more interested in being a bad ass than being a role model and because MSI are now getting plenty of exposure through MCR they have nothing but prasies for them as you can see from the interview.

Anonymous said...

Hey video Anon?

Why don't you take a name so I can recognize you and our conversation before 300 comments rack up?

It's just a lot easier to keep track.

If you don't want to, that's okay too :)

Anonymous said...

mustardisbetter: Okay I'll look into that but for now my name is Laura.

Anonymous said...

There I hope that worked. I'm not exactly good with computers. This is Laura.

Anonymous said...

AWESOME!


Now I have a connection!


See you around!

Anonymous said...

Nice talking to you!

Anonymous said...

HI Laura. Thank you for posting that, and for joining us here. We're a fighting minority. ^_^ I love the Beatles, too.

Mustard, you said everything I meant to say and more. What's more, you said it better. ^_^

Anonymous said...

I'm still disappointed I can't get the video to load :(



Couldn't resist and Thank You!:

stepped out of the line
like a sheep runs from the herd
marching out of time
to my own beat now
the only way i know
one light, one mind
flashing in the dark
blinded by silence of a thousand broken hearts
"for cryin out loud" she screamed unto me
a free for all
fuck 'em all
"you are your own sight"

farawaysoclose said...

anon 2.29am thanks for posting that video link. that makes things clearer!! i feel embarrassed for MSI and especially lyn z that is just disrespectful big time!!

farawaysoclose said...

oh and i get that that was all before proj rev but still embarrassing and fucking disrespectful and quite frankly their behaviour recently has therefore been two faced!

of course they go way back helping them as a baby band 4 yrs ago blah blah fucking blah!! obviously got on like a house on fire back then ey??!!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

V V I think you will like this

http://www.thebulletreviews.com/interviews/msi_interview





Interview: Mindless Self Indulgence, November 2nd 2007, Vienna Austria
I had a chance to do an interview with the band that was supporting My Chemical Romance on their short European tour this fall (and did a really good job of that by the way!), Mindless Self Indulgence, at their stop in Vienna. It turned out to be loads of fun, they are a really amazing bunch of people!


As we arrived at Stadthalle at 3 pm on the day of the gig, I decided to go see about the interview right away just in case. After a bit of trouble of finding the right entrance and a bit of waiting it was all set for the interview right then and there already. We (I had a friend with me) got led into this small room where the band (except for Lyn-Z – she joined in a bit later) was already sitting. I got offered a chair to sit right opposite to Jimmy and as I was taking out the questions and my voice recorder Jimmy immediately notices it has a little extra microphone attached to it that he has to test! This was definitely going to be fun! Here is what happened next...


Romana: Ok.. so I found this written in one of the articles about you where you were called: ´Shocking rockers of this generation´.
Everyone goes silent for a moment.
Jimmy: Really?
Romana: Well I was just gonna ask you if that’s like the right thing for you, or you don’t really care what you are called.
Jimmy: I don’t know if that’s like totally correct. I mean we don’t necessarily…
Steve: We don’t go out of our way to shock anybody, or to get a title. I don’t think that’s necessarily accurate.
Jimmy: I mean it’s not surprising!
Steve: If it is, it’s unintentional. I don’t like bands that are intentionally shocking; I think that’s pretentious.
Romana: You are just being yourselves and...
Steve: If someone doesn’t like us they don’t like us.
Kitty: Poor impulse control.
Jimmy: Yeah!


Romana: Ok, I’m not gonna ask Jimmy about music cause I’ve read you (I look at Jimmy) don’t like to talk about it...
Everyone: Oooh yeah!
Jimmy: Alright! So far so grantastic!


Romana: But can I ask you two (Kitty and Steve) if you have like any bands that are like inspiration to you? Or are you also more into movies and stuff?
Kitty: Well I think it’s more interesting that we have such varied tastes. I think it’s interesting that the music that we do like it’s like there is lots of like crossover between the four of us but each one of us definitely has something that they are very into that the others aren’t necessarily.
Steve: Yeah. It’s not like that he doesn’t like music so much, it’s just that he doesn’t want to talk about it… He likes music.
Jimmy: Just that it’s work, that’s the main thing, it’s work!
Steve: Also when you put something on it’s either like: I wish I would have done that, or what can I do to steal that and not make it obvious or that’s horrible, I can do better than that, why is that even on the radio… You can’t listen to it in the same way.
Jimmy: That’s why I like other people playing music.
Steve: That’s why I like older stuff. Cause it’s done. It’s done already. They’re dead.
Jimmy: Like Mozart.
Steve: Like Mozart. He’s alive, you know. He works at a pizza place.


Romana: Would you ever do a soundtrack for a movie?
Jimmy: Yeah! That seems kinda high class. I’d love to do that!
Romana: Any special movie that has been done already and you would like to…
Steve: I would like to redo Star Wars, relax it a little. It needs some jungle beats.
Jimmy: Any John Carpenter movie really.


Romana: You have just released a DVD, but only in US so far…
Jimmy: It’s gonna come out here in January. And the record is released on November 5th.
Romana: Anything you want to like especially recommend of the DVD for the European people?
Steve: They should look at the special features, the American audience waiting to come in. Yeah, that’s fun, the Americans, they’re a little (makes a movement with his hands as to say ´nuts´)
Jimmy: And with the European release of ‘You’re rebel to anything´, there’s gonna be different outlook and some extra tracks… So like if you bought the original one there will be more of other stuff…
Steve: Or if you didn’t there is a good reason to get it..


Then Lyn-Z joins us.


Steve (to Lyn-Z): Hey ghost! When did you join?
Lyn-Z: I’m a hologram.
Romana: Hey! You can answer some questions too.
Steve: She’s programmed.
Romana: You’ve been around for like 10 years already, you have released a lot of stuff and even some unreleased stuff is on some discography list that I have found…
Jimmy: On eBay?
Romana: No, on a list on some website.
Jimmy: Oh.
Romana: Some singles and some unreleased stuff like ´Pink´, is that gonna be released somewhere?
Jimmy: I don’t know. Right now I’m making some money selling it on eBay.
*Everyone laughs*
Romana: That’s a good point. You played this one song ´Mastermind´…
Jimmy: That’s on the new, new record, new American record. Not on ´You’ll rebel to anything´ but the one that we are finishing right now.
Romana: You’re recording this after you finish this tour?
Jimmy: No, we’ve recorded it already, we’re kinda mixing it and then it needs to be mastered…
Romana: So, the album should actually be out quite soon then?
Jimmy: Yeah early next year, we still haven’t decided about that yet. February, March, something like that in America and right after that here for you guys.


Romana: That’s great! Ok, I have also watched some of your live performances and you seem like really fearless on stage, doing lots of crazy stuff. What about like in your real life, are you afraid of something?
Jimmy (points to Lyn-Z): She does backbends all the time!
Lyn-Z: Yeah, you just missed it. (laughter again)
Steve: Are we afraid of things?
Jimmy: Yeah man.
Steve: God, yeah!
Romana: Not like I don’t mean spiders or anything like that (a/n: lol, obviously!) (laughter again). Like I don’t know, getting old, or stuff like that...
Steve: Getting old? No!
Kitty: I would say that something happens when you go on stage though, with all those people and you’re really excited when you play music, the adrenaline kicks in…
Romana: It’s a different state of mind?
Kitty: Yeah!
Steve: You don’t notice until after, like last night I didn’t notice it until that chunk of mail came up on stage. That actually stopped me for a second.


Then Steve starts showing me his injuries from the night before: getting hit on the eye…
Steve: And here is the famous one (shows a big scar on his hip), a new hip.
Romana: Oh my God...
Steve: You want to see the insides? It´s on zips.
Romana: That’s horrible.
Kitty (laughs): Spoken truthfully!
Romana: Well, as long as you are having fun on stage…
Steve: Nah...


Romana: I have this one question... I don’t know if I should ask you...
Steve: No, no, go ahead, try it!
Jimmy: You’ve earned it!
Romana: Ok... erm, in one of the interviews you (I point at Jimmy) said, that you miss the days when people were still throwing bottles at you. Is that really not happening anymore… or did it ever really much?
Steve: Nowadays in venues they don’t allow bottles...
Jimmy: No, it used to happen...
Romana: I mean getting stuff thrown at you that could really hurt you…
Steve: It’s not that we would specifically want people throwing bottles at us, it’s kinda missing the days when we were struggling a little bit more... We’re working really well on that... like if people are hating us, that’s when we really thrive.
Kitty: And shine.
*More laughter.*
Steve: So… There was a big adjustment to when people started liking us and we had to sort of interact with them...
Romana: You’ve been like an underground band for quite a long time…
Steve: Yeah, we’ve got plenty of dirt under our fingernails!
Romana: Then you became quite big stars pretty much over night.
Steve: Yeah! We’re huge stars! (laughs again)


Romana: Do you ever think about what you want to do in the future? If you ever stop touring, if you ever stop being a band, like in 10, 15, 20 years?
Steve: Hopefully we can live off of whatever we make. But I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
Jimmy: We should start thinking about that soon.
Steve: Thanks for ruining it all for us!
Kitty: I’m still planning for the reunion tour.
Steve: We should just break up now and do a reunion tour next year!
Romana: Yeah, that works for lots of bands lately. Or you could just be like The Rolling Stones and go on forever!
Kitty: Yeah, keep saying we’re gonna retire but never really do it.
Jimmy: Yeah, if we had a couple of hits!
Steve: Yeah, if we had ´Satisfaction´ under our belts…


Romana: Hm, ok.. I noticed you are like really connected to your fans, even now that you are quite a big band you still always take time to come out after the shows, reply to emails, even! How do you manage that?
Steve: Emails not so much, cause I’m just bad at that. I don’t know how we manage that. It’s odd really if you don’t. That’s the thing that we’ve always done, from the time when we were first on tour in 1999 and people actually wanted to meet us. Like, we didn’t know any better at first, we just went backstage after the show and then the tour manager came in and said: ´People want to meet you.´ and we were like: ´They do?!´. And that was it; I mean from then on that’s all we did. It’s kind of a part of the whole experience.
Romana: I think that’s really great. I mean lots of big bands don’t do it anymore, or can’t really do it anymore, it’s not safe anymore…
Steve: We’re in a spot where we can do it. People say they are not friendly, but they can’t! it’s not possible anymore.
Kitty: I think it’s especially fun when we go to countries we’ve never been to before and meet the kids who are there. Cause when you travel you really don’t know the kids who live there. I really like to have the full understanding. It’s sort of what it’s all about, you know. And sometimes it’s fun you know to talk to kids after the show like: Oh we’re into this, we’re into that…
Steve: And talk on the phone to their parents and get them in trouble…


Romana: You are currently on your European tour, some solo some supporting My Chemical Romance, some with some other bands…
Kitty: No all of this was headlining except with My Chem.
Romana: Oh ok, others were support bands then.
Kitty: Yeah. We had Scanners in UK, they were pretty good…
Steve: And last night we had The Chicken in Croatia…
Jimmy: And now My Chem..
Kitty: Yeah, and we are pretty much supporting My Chem for the rest of the tour. Steve: Except for one at the end that we do it ourselves.


Romana: How was playing in Slovakia? It was a festival (a/n Rockova Jesen Festival just few days before).
Kitty: Bratislava?
Jimmy: That was the first My Chem gig, that was good! Those kids are crazy.
Romana: You got a lot of your own fans there as well?
Jimmy: Oh, yeah.
Steve: ´Bring me Lindzy´ (he tries to copy the fans)
*Everyone laughs again.*
Steve: ´Pliiz! Bring me Lindzy, pliiiiiiz!´ We were out signing and it was like that all the time! ´Pliiiiz!´
Jimmy: I get off the bus and I expect there is nothing there…
Steve: We were surprised that they even knew our names! ´Jimmie!´
Steve: Last night was weirder though. (a/n in Zagreb)
Jimmy: They knew the words!
Steve: They knew.. what the hell?! Yeah! I mean how..?!
Kitty: Internet, I’m telling you.
Kitty: It’s working for us.
Steve: But there’s like a gazillion things on MySpace, why us? Oh I know why. We’re fucking great.
Kitty can´t stop laughing.
Romana: So.. even My Chem fans love you on stage?
Everyone: Yeeah…
Romana: I mean are they shocked or are they used to it by now?
Steve: When we played Projekt Revolution tour this summer with them, I noticed that if any two bands had crossover fans really, it was those two bands, us and My Chemical Romance. I mean obviously there’s gonna be people who don’t like us…
Jimmy: Like with everybody.
Steve: But there are a lot of people who do like both bands. And I’m not really that surprised.
Romana: Yeah, but on first sight you seem like completely different.
Jimmy: But we are actually very similar, we’re all entertainers.
Steve: We’re a lot a like, they put on a great show, they are all great individuals, with great personalities, we like the same things when we’re not on stage. We’re not that different as people.
Romana: So it works.
Steve: I think it works. Kids like to get a show and they put on a great show, too. I say too, because we put on a great show as well.
Kitty: Yeah, we’re talking about us.
Romana: Yeah, this interview is about you.
Jimmy: Yeah! Man, she’s… That’s it, you’re not leaving this place!


Everyone laughs again and Kitty says something about a good interviews being rare.


Jimmy: You don’t understand, that’s like a common law husband who beats you every night, right, throws stuff at you and then there is also this really nice guy on the street that brigs you flowers… that’s you!
Romana: Really? Aw. Well we can do this again in Brussels, hehe.
Kitty: Great!
Jimmy: We’ve been abused by interviewers…
Romana: I can imagine…
Jimmy: So we started abusing them… I mean if they start asking us retarded questions, we give them retarded answers. And then they get ashamed.
Romana: Well that’s a really good strategy!
Jimmy: That’s just how it is.
Steve: That’s how it should be in the real world.
Jimmy: Yeah, like don’t fuck with us, you know?


Romana (I finally have a question for Lyn-Z, she’s been pretty quiet all through the interview): I’ve read somewhere that you love going to Europe cause you love how the names sound in other languages or different accents of English… So what country do you…
Lyn-Z: Scotland! It’s my favourite, yeah!
Romana: Is there any country that you are not going to right now, but you’d really like to go to?
Steve: Everywhere!
Kitty: Anywhere!


Romana: Ok, I actually have just one last question: Do you remember your very first show? Where it was, when and what was that like?
Steve and Kitty smile: Yeah!
Steve (to Lyn-Z): You want to take this one?
Lyn-Z: My first show was different cause I joined the band two years after and we played at some crazy fetish ball and you (Jimmy) were wearing pyjamas and you (Steve) were wearing a gorilla suit…
Steve: With no head…
Lyn-Z:… and I was scared shitless and the curtain came up…
Steve: You peed a little..
Lyn-Z: I peed a little.
Steve: And that was it.
Jimmy: I liked that show, that was good.
Romana: Well I just want to thank you for this interview…
Jimmy & Kitty: Thank you!
Romana: If you have any final message for the readers of The Bullet Reviews?
Jimmy: Hm, I guess no, we’ve pretty much said it all, we talked about the DVD and the record…
Kitty: We’re gonna be touring a lot…
Jimmy: Next year we’re gonna do Australia, February… and try to do Japan… and we’re probably going to come back over here for some festivals like March-ish.
Romana: Hope to catch you somewhere again soon then. Have a great show and thank you again!
Everyone: Thank you!


I shake hands with everyone and we get escorted out of backstage area. Just as we walk out of the room we see Steve talking to Gerard Way a bit further down in the hallway and he waves us goodbye, too. What a nice and fun bunch! Huge thank you again to the band and the management for making this possible.


Official website and MySpace

Romana








The Bullet Reviews - If we think it's crap, we'll say it's crap!

December 23, 2007 6:45 PM

Martha Smith-Jones said...

So the next time someone says that shitty band is just tongue in cheek throw this in there face.

Anonymous said...

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/lynz/photos/lynz-at-pr/?id=33745681

Classy, eh?

Anonymous said...

For those of you who can't get the video to load what it entails is basically Jimmy telling the audience that emos are one moustache away from looking like Hitler.

Then he sings the first line of the black parade a few times shouting "emo" in between.

Their opinion has certainly changed.

Anonymous said...

He also is doing the Hitler salute. What a swell guy.

Anonymous said...

beatlesfan said...
http://www.buzznet.com/tags/lynz/photos/lynz-at-pr/?id=33745681

Classy, eh?

January 2, 2008 12:53 AM

Jesus Beatles!!! That fucking picture should come with a warning. Yes, she pretty but I never wanted to see her minge! :)I'm off to pour battery acid on my eyes in hope of cleansing them.

Anonymous said...

God, I am so sick of hearing about the MCR / MSI bullshit. I have heard enough. I don't even know why anyone takes into consideration the intolerable ramblings of a complete drug addict. I've worked long enough with addicts to recognize a fucking coke head when I see one. I don't even know why anyone defends him, he's basically calling all of you whores and expects for you to perform upon his demand, as if he were some kind of pimp. And yet, people still find it their life's mission to defend his actions, as if he were a freaking saint. He's an arrogant prick that has nothing better to do than to degrade a bunch of teenagers to make himself feel better.

I've heard every bullshit excuse, "oh, he's just talking about how some men don't know how to please a woman, oh, it's tongue and cheek, its not meant to be taken seriously," blah, blah, blah. Please, it is not his place to make such comments about absurdity to a bunch of teenagers. I don't care if some of you think that this society has evolved enough where he can make such statements, it is not okay. Its not constructive information, its not purposeful by any means. What it is, is rude, its crude, its disgusting and its pointless. What is the point to that statement? I saw the footage of that concert and I'm even surprised that he used the word "Ladies" cause what he really means is, "Hey Whores, why don't you perform this hideous act for me so that later I can get off on how stupid all of you are for doing it!."

What he's become is this attention seeking whore that likes to be shocking and for what? For what purpose? To impress his coke buddy wife and her coke addicted band. Which mind you, let me state, what a lovely choice for a wife, an easy lay who was ready and willing to do anything just as long as she got the exposure she so desperately needed. The interview with MSI says it all, they're big time now (although they've been around since 1998), and everyone all of sudden loves their music, but honestly can anyone say (aside from the MSI crazed fan) that they could have named a single member or a single song before all of this relationship bullshit started?

Believe me, I've dealt with plenty of attention seeking Slut-z's in my day and aside from their exterior, their memorizing shell, you can always bet that they rarely ever have any true substance.

His grandma must be proud.

Anonymous said...

What do you think about this?

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/gerardway/forum/topics/215031/ger-z-no-more-dont-shoot-the/

Anonymous said...

There's a possibility that the rumor maybe true, but who knows for sure, the year is still young. If it is true, well then maybe, just maybe, he'll get off his high horse and snap back into reality.

Anonymous said...

I'm asking this, not as a sarcastic remark, but as a heartfelt question:



It's never going to be about the music anymore, is it?


I need this band back. I need these words back.

Anonymous said...

^ its still about the music for me and for a lot of other fans as well.

Anonymous said...

It's good to know there's still some of us out there then.

sister midnite said...

Great post, VV - as always.

I don't expect to receive a decent answer, but I feel like I have to ask anyway:

Why does this debate always disintegrate into Gerard's choice of women?

For many of us, it was never about Lyn-Z. Kapunua stated it better than I ever could: It's about the message of MCR, and how Gerard has strayed from the original message while continuing to pay hypocritical homage (read: lip service) to it.

The music is still part of my soul, but the words no longer ring as true as they once did. But I (perhaps stupidly) refuse to give up all faith that the magic can still be brought back.

Call me naive, if you will -- to paraphrase a good friend: 'The glass doesn't have to be half-empty, or half-full. Sometimes it's just a glass filled with shit.'

For now, it's enough. For all my disappointment, I haven't given up yet.

Anonymous said...

I'm not saying I feel this way myself but a lot of the fans hold Lyn z responsible for Gerard straying from his original message.

Talking about Gerard's choice in women is, arguably, important. Maybe if he were to leave her or at least stop trying to impress her and her fellow cokeheads then he would go back to his original message and the music would be important again.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what sort of woman would be impressed by a man advising impressionable teenage girls to go fuck themselves, or simulate an orgasm in front of him and other males in the audience?

Not the type of women I know.

Anonymous said...

^obviously the same type of woman who would associate herself with a band that sings about five year old pantyshot, etc. And I think that she keeps being brought up because it was after meeting her that all the over-the-top craziness (yes, I know that he was always a little "off center" but you have to admit that his behavior during and since PR is odd even for him.)began and only got worse the longer he was with her.

Anonymous said...

That's exactly my point.

Anonymous said...

But he actually started to change for the worse even before she came along, though. Like, he seemed really different at Hove (or whatever it was called) when he really publicly and brutally ditched his ex. You could tell even then that he wasn't taking the high road, because he kept rubbing her nose in it every chance he got.

I dunno, I think something else is going on with him and the whirlwind marriage and subsequent lies are a symptom more than the cause. I think Lyn Z is just along for the ride and honestly, I feel sorry for her.

Anonymous said...

Which is NOT to say that I approve of her lousy band and their lousy messages of hate and disgust.

Anonymous said...

This may be an inappropriate question, but by any chance does anyone know "Kat's" last name?

Anonymous said...

I see your point kapunua but I have no sympathy for Lyn Z at all.
She is fully aware of the change in him and is encouraging his behaviour if anything.

Gerard may have been a bastard at Hove but once he met her he became ten times worse.

I just want the old Gerard back. To me the message was always as important as the music. If the message is forgotten because he is so under that bitch's thumb then what's the point?

Anonymous said...

I agree with you beatlesfan, I have no sympathy for LynZ either. She's getting what she wants out of this relationship.

Anonymous said...

Well, I have sympathy for any woman who gets used and tossed aside like that.

OTOH, I have sympathy for any man who gets used too, so. As I don't know them, I can't say that what they're doing--how Gerard is changing--is because of another person. I just see the change and I feel terrible about it' he's become such a loser.

Anonymous said...

Verita did you hear the one about Gerard at Maxwell's whispering to some blond lady all night? Lyn Z no where in sight, those two were getting really REALLY cozy. I saw them and so did a few other fans. It was on someone's live journal review. She was holding his arm ect....

Anonymous said...

anon at 3:14, I almost forgot about that. I've heard from a few people who were there that because of the way they were all lovey dovey most people assumed that it was Lynz in a blonde wig. However, her band was in Europe somewhere at the time. I wonder if that blonde is plan b for when he gets bored with the wife...

Anonymous said...

yeah Lyn z in a wig I heard that too! Then it came out she wasn't even there. Gerard can't be without a women in his life so he probably has some girls lined up already......

Anonymous said...

Do you have a link to the LJ review? :)

Rebellare said...

Okay, I don't know if any of you have heard this quote, but this is supposedly another thing that Gerard was heard saying onstage:

"All you girls are here because you want to suck my dick, well get fucked"

I got it off an Mcrmy website and the girl said that she confirmed it as a true statement but would not share the video it came from because the girl wanted to keep it private.
I had to post this somewhere, and buzznet and the internet has gone completely insane over all this stuff in the last couple days. I have a feeling that if I posted it no one would listen anyways, that is why I posted it here.
He has also supposedly been heard saying something onstage along the lines of
"I am not back on any fucking shit, and I think I am going to lose every fucking last fan I have because of these rumors those fucking fake teens are spreading out!"
but there is absolutely NO proof of him saying this, and no one even willing to confirm that they actually heard it themselves. So for now, I think it is bullshit.
The girls who are left defending Gerard are now completely out of any logical reasoning and are now in a firey panic. They are posting in ALL CAPITOL LETTERS, as if they are screaming at us for disagreeing with their infallible god.
I find it kind of ironic that these girls who have devoted themselves so much to this one man, is the same man who is laughing in their face about it!
I don't know what made him turn into an egomaniac, but personally I find it sickening. Why is he talking about a bunch of 12 year old girls sucking his dick anyways? That is something that has no excuse, ever.
I used to have so much respect for him, but that comment sent me over. He is no completely pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Saturn:

Let me be the first, or maybe the one hundreth person, to apologize for your recent newfound distaste for Gerard Way.

As for the two instances you cited, it's hard to form an opinion based on hearsay, basically. But, in the event the FIRST is true, it doesn't surprise me in the least. I'm actually at the point that I would be shocked if Gerard Way didn't say anything of the sort onstage these days. I mean, it's kinda a routine now, so just go ahead and get it out of your system so you can continue the life of an asshole -- sorry, tangent :).

As for the SECOND situation, I heard that rumor going around INO a few months back. As you said, no one had proof of it. And in my opinion, if Gerard has resorted to the alcohol and drugs, it's none of my business really. I do hope he realizes that it's not good for him and seeks help. That's the only thing I can wish.

And as for the younger and older fans alike who see no wrong in Gerard, I'm personally afraid they have another thing coming and the real world is going to bite them on the ass, and hard. This world is full of shitty, beautiful, talented people just like Gerard Way. They're going to get let down if they think they can do no wrong.

But, I can't say that without saying that I'm disappointed in the total lack of respect he's now giving the females of this fan population. I'm disappointed that the message no longer holds any value. I'm disappointed that Gerard Way has single-handedly ruined My Chemical Romance with his outlandish behavior (Lyn-Z aside, because that's not what it's about). I'm disappointed. So, if I don't have room to talk, I'll shut up.

capture this void said...

"I am not back on any fucking shit, and I think I am going to lose every fucking last fan I have because of these rumors those fucking fake teens are spreading out!"

Just for the record, I believe this quote was proven to be created by some girl on Myspace. I remember discussing this on the other blog a while back. Sad to see some girls are sinking so low as to literally make up a quote in order to dispel some rumours.

No idea about the first quote though. Sorry. Thanks for sharing.

Anonymous said...

"Shell Of A Man"

Who are you?
A man I can’t even recognize
Twisting the truth to your advantage
So who else is responsible for your demise?

Everything you once stood for has faded
I have witnessed you deteriorate
A shell of a man now in your place
I watched you decay day by day
Corrode into this person I hate

Death waits around your corner
It creeps in the back of your mind
Do you want to die?
I wonder, as I see you worse
As I survey your gradual decline

I won’t mourn the loss of a stranger
You’ve done this to yourself
Pushed away all attempts to help
Remember that, when you self-destruct
When you can no longer blame anyone else

I’ll never understand why you choose this
Why this is the person you want to be
Your soul barren and empty
When all you ever had to do was reach out
Reach out to your own family

There’s no hope for restoration
All your walls are falling down
Cracks and splinters surround you now
And I’ll remind myself that you died a long time ago.

As we lower what’s left of you into the ground...

Poem Written By: RoSeS R ReD15

http://www.4degreez.com/poetry/9872/
1089786383.html
______________________________________

After I read the last post about Gerard degrading teenagers yet again, I didn't know what to think, but then I went surfing online and I found this poem.

The poem is really about family turmoil and detachment between a father and his children, but I decided to post it here anyway because the basis of this poem still applies to the current unfortunate circumstances that is Gerard.

Anonymous said...

Just checking on you, VV!

I hope everything's okay :)


You should drop by when you get the chance!

See you around?

Anonymous said...

I have to say this;

You are truly my hero, Verita Venom.

I just started reading your blog after not really listening to MCR much for the past... 3 or 4 months...

I somehow didn't know about the whole "Fuck Yourselves" thing, although I do guess it's not surprising since I do live in a hole in the wall. It sorta opens my eyes.

I remember seeing them for the first time in 2005 and hearing Gerard talk about how special girls were and how much respect we deserve. Then, I think to when I saw them in April 2007, and seeing him literally spit on the girls (Not like frank who spits water) and watching them cheer with Fangirly joy. I thought about how, no matter who, I would never cheer about being spat on.

I guess I never really saw the signs... but You are just... So right... about everything.

Major Props for that.

Anonymous said...

From the point's of BOTH band's, all they are spewing out of their mouth's are EXCUSES! It's sad and pathetic! Although I have never liked MSI, I do still find myself mourning the loss of the MCR that USE TO BE. VERY SAD INDEED!

Anonymous said...

I spent some time today at youtube watching some live clips of MCR and it was striking how things have changed from the pre-pr shows to now. It is sad to see the separation that is now so evident between Gerard and the band. Very sad.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi0rHJCEJkU

"Get me big giant bags of cocaine".

At the very end. Listen and make a new blog.

Anonymous said...

At the very end. Listen and make a new blog.

About what? "Hey guys, Gerard said to bring him giant bags of cocaine onstage the other night!!!!"

I continue to be confused by some people's attitudes about Gerard and drugs/alcohol. None of us have any way of being absolutely certain that he is or isn't still clean and sober. And if theoretically he has started using or drinking again, or might at some point in the future - so what? What's your point? What do you think you're going to accomplish by tearing him down and condemning for his 'failure?' Every day someone who struggles with addiction remains clean is a huge accomplishment; I don't understand what the point is in having such a negative attitude.

And not relevant to the above, but the first bit of what he said was from a Blondie song.

Anonymous said...

"Losing your fate on a journey is unfortunate.

Losing your reason for the journey is a fate more cruel."

Anonymous said...

Wow.

That's a pretty powerful quote.


Who's on the receiving end of the cruelty?

Him, or us?

resurrected wreck said...

http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=qajXcQo0
kQM


This may be the video you're looking for, VV. I can't say for sure though because I can't bring myself to watch it.

resurrected wreck said...

^Apologies. It looks like that video has been removed.

Anonymous said...

so what the big deal.

i think you guys are acting sexist.

i bet your reaction wouldn't have been like this is he said it to the boys would it.

becuase girls masturbating most of the time is a taboo, but if masturbation and boy is in a same sentence no one says anything except "eww" and move on.

so you know what yes it was feminist in my opinion becuase even if he said "everyone" it wouldn't have an impact because most people would think about the guys only.

but here you are making a stink, making the comment have some sort of value. and i thought about why does it offend girls so much and not guys and since its making me question this then i think it's actually a positive thing he said that.

besides that if you took what he said for how he said it, then i guess you think teenagers is promoting violence also.

Anonymous said...

Bravo.
There's really nothing more to say.

*applause*

Anonymous said...

Gerard's a human. He made a mistake. That's all. Maybe if people would stop looking at him like he were a god--or HAD looked at him like he were a god in the past and are now disillusioned and irritated--they'd be more forgiving when he does things like this.

He's not gonna be perfect. It's unfair to expect him to be.

Anonymous said...

I have a question:
After reading all the blogs that VV has posted, do you honestly think Gerard could be on drugs AGAIN?

It's an honest question, I just want to hear others opinions, cause really, i think he might be, either that or her likes to be led blindly through everything that he's doing in life... especially led by people that probably don't even truly care about him (lyn-z and msi)

Reply to this, I really want to know.

& if he is on drugs, at least it'll explain EVERYTHING!

Anonymous said...

The imagery in My Chemical Romance's music and the stories they told on so many different levels in their lyrics held a certain magic. I always felt like, even though I would never meet them or even speak to them, someone was saying what was on my mind for me and that there were other people on the same wavelength and I'm sure that there were a lot of other people, boys and girls, who agreed. Its so sad reading all these things that Gerard has apparently said or done kinda destroys all that and does actually leave me feeling slightly disenchanted (pardon). I don't want to believe it but all the evidence backing it up... and the rumours that Gerard is drinking and taking drugs again kind of hurts too as I always admired him for his honesty and the strength it must have taken to overcome his addictions and depression. If all this isn't true and he is happily married with a baby on the way and everything is happy-clappy in their little world then that is so cool and I feel sorry for him because of vicious rumours... but then there are so many people repeating the same things it could all be true and I feel so sorry for him and his bandmates who are sometimes forgotten behind Gerard. I've been a fan since I was 15 (I'm now 21) and if all that they have worked for over the years has come down to all this then I would rather the band split and left us with the happier memories of that a great band they were and voices for the voiceless rather than the ugliness that now seems to follow Gerard around and that is tainting the other members of his band.

Someone special said...

You know, people don't bash you because of your offensive way towards MCR. They do it because your reasons are that of a fairytale gone supreme court. You blow everything out of proportion to make your point. If you prefer living in the 1920's, then why not blog warp back in time?

What Mcr and MSI does is a representation of many bands, many people and lifestyles who all have 1 thing in common. They're 21st century realist. Don't blame MCR or MSI for the rotten fruit of your labor.

I know there is more than 1 person running this veritavenom account. Stop crediting yourself as a 1 man victor. It's very disturbing and discrediting to you, for the intelligent readers you seek to consider anything you say as intelligent, when you so blatantly fancy yourself as some divine entity.

And since you are quick to mention how you have "permission" to quote things you've heard, why not advise your followers to do the same?

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