I Want To Say a Little Something That's Long
Overdue
The Disrespect To Women Has Got To Be Through
To All The Mothers And Sisters A And The
Wives And Friends
I Want To Offer My Love And Respect To The
End
If only there were more musicians who felt this way instead of degrading women.
RIP MCA.
OK, there is something else I want to add to this.
This article. Like the woman here I am a long time Beastie Boys fan, since the early days. This article talks a lot about the feminism of the Beastie Boys, how they apologized for using slurs in their old songs, and the misogyny still in music today. I think it is well worth the read.
Once you’ve realized that you’re living in a world that believes women are “less than” in every imaginable way, one of the things that can be most frustrating is that very few men get it. You want the people in your life, the men you care about, to understand the awful toll it can take on you. Operating in a world that sees you as less than fully human can be soul crushing—but it’s also incredibly lonely.
When you speak up about any sense of unfairness or injustice, you’re told that you’re overreacting, you’re too angry, too silly—shut up already. It takes a tremendous amount of fortitude to be able to live in this world as a woman, let alone a woman who wants things to change.
And that’s what was so remarkable and emotional about the Beastie Boys’ feminist turnaround. Maybe your father says sexism doesn’t exist and your boyfriend disrespects you. Maybe you have to deal with assholes on the subway who rub up against you every day and laugh when you yell at them. But listening to this band that you love so much say that your pain is real, that the world is fucked up and that they are not going to participate in actions that hurt you anymore because they care about you—it was the overwhelming feeling of being made visible. They were sending a clear message to their female fans: This isn’t okay, we have your back, we’re sorry.
It was the apology we never got from the high school teacher who stared at our breasts, the acknowledgement of injustice that politicians and American culture dance around—and it was coming from people whom we cared about and respected, people with cultural power.
Hearing the Beastie Boys speak out against sexism made me feel like if these men who had once sung about getting girls to “do the laundry” and “clean up my room” could understand, maybe the rest of the world would follow suit. It made me hopeful in the best way.
931 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 931 Newer› Newest»Sorry to hear about your sore tits. Try slicing a cucumber and placing the slices on your nipples. That should help.
If you freeze the cucumber slices for an hour or so that will help even more.
May I ask what caused the soreness of your tits, 3:31? Sometimes the cause affects the cure. Cause and (e)affect ya know.
Over the counter anti-inflammatory drugs (ibuprofen, naproxen sodium) are the way to go if it's pre-period soreness.
Also, soft-cup bras with no wires offer gentle support without making the problem worse. I like Warner's.
3:31, do you jog?
Oh, and to address all the "overheated baby" stuff, oh my god. That's so horrible! Why don't people think? Can they not feel the heat? I mean, I thrive in heat and quite often I'm cool as a cucumber while everyone else is dying of the heat, but I do realize that this is just a "me" thing and it's probably not the best idea to be putting blankets on. A little common sense, jeez!
One of my friends who still works at The Bad Place told me just the other day some guy brought his dog in because he'd left it in the car for two hours. It's 97 degrees here. Of course the dog was already dead. :(
People just can't engage the brain sometimes! It's so sad.
Can they not feel the heat? I
They feel the heat and they know what the heat can do to their babies and their pets. Really, there is no excuse for any semi literate person not knowing. They know what intense heat can do and they just don't give a damn.
It's not a case of being uneducated. It's a case of just not giving a shit. Which is so much worse and should be criminal.
His dog died? Did the man seem affected by that in any way? I hate people. That poor dog.
12:01, I guess he was upset and in a panic, but I mean, why--WHY--would you even leave your dog in the car for 2 hours to begin with? It's not like it's a huge secret what happens. It hit 97 degrees that day. I mean, honestly, WHAT? Madness.
Someone told me that Kapunua forbid all of her friends from friending Wendy on Facebook. Someone tell me if that's true or not because that's pathetic!!! Even more pathetic if they listened to her.
Review for Henry IV Parts 1 & 2.
Is this true, Kapunua? An answer would be nice, for once.
Did anybody find a download?
3:42, I didn't know Michelle Dockery was in this, too! Now I have to see it; I just love her! I need to get a dl of this. ^_^
3:09/4:02, I'm not doing this with you. Your battle isn't with me, it's with yourself.
Another review. This one is even better. :)
This link was working last night. It's an avi file, and it's long, but it's good quality. Hope it works for you. :)
I have an audio recording of Tom Hiddleston playing Cassio from the Donmar production. He really was amazing.
A;FJHSDF;GAHDFG I'M GOING TO TRY THAT LINK, ANON! THANK YOU! :D
I hate to say it, because I love Simon Russell Beale, but he was a terrible Falstaff. I didn't find him humorous in the least.
Hiddles was great though.
"Hiddles"..... Do you all realize you sound like 13 year olds?
I seriously doubt that 13 year olds have read Henry IV nor Richard II. I also doubt that you have either, 6:57. And even if you did try, you wouldn't understand it.
Maybe if you spent as much time trying to improve your mind as you do trying to stir up trouble on the internet, you'd find some happiness.
he (Simon Russell Beale) was a terrible Falstaff. I didn't find him humorous in the least.
While I don't think he was terrible, I do agree that he was not the Falstaff I was expecting. Falstaff isn't really a likable character, and Beale didn't play him as one. I found that rather refreshing.
Regardless, the "play within a play" scene was brilliant, especially his "old Jack Falstaff, banish not him
thy Harry's company, banish not him thy Harry's
company: banish plump Jack, and banish all the world."
When Hal replied, "I do. I will," it nearly broke my heart.
So it seems it was an accident. That makes me feel a little better. Thank you for sharing that, Kapunua. Sounds like he thought/wanted to save him in some way even though it was too late. He cared. It's sad that it happened no matter what. I think maybe people now have become so self-centered, that it's considered normal to have such a mindset. It doesn't always appear that things like this are coming from a desire to do something malicious. Simply the thought to be responsible beyond ones self just isn't there. I know a lot of people like that. I am not impartial to making mistakes, but I would never leave a living creature to endure something like that. Just a shame. A baby, an invalid, a pet, a house plant, no one and nothing deserves to die like that. Everyday it looks like all we do is learn the hard way.
Good night.
Auwe! I downloaded the Part One that Anon linked here, and never even checked the format! Doesn't play on Mac.
*sob sob*
Download an avi file converter, Kapunua.
Honestly, every link I found was an AVI file. I have Windows Media Player, so I can watch it on my computer, but I had to convert it to an mp4 so I could put it on my iPad.
Not a bad idea, lemme see if I can find one for free. Or, I wonder if I'd be able to just put it on a DVD?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48113073/ns/us_news-life/#.T_pPCqEtH8Y
WTF!
er.. I suppose I should have specified in my comment (at 7:35PM) that I was referring to the comment Kapunua posted earlier about the man who left his dog unattended in his car during the heatwave. Sorry if I confused or offended anyone. :/ Good luck with the downloads. Good night.
3:31, do you jog?
Nope, not my type of exercise :)
Henry V
Kapunua,
If you haven't been able to convert your avi file, here are some helpful links which will allow you to watch The Hollow Crown on the BBC iPlayer in the US. I have Expat Shield on my laptop, and it works like a charm.
If you have no other recourse, some kind soul put Henry IV Part I up YouTube.
Kapunua have you ever read The Quantum Thief by Hannu Rajaniemi who holds a doctorate in maths and is also a string theory expert.
The book takes the technology that surrounds us, such as social media, gaming and other things we can relate to, and then advances it beyond the singularity to make the world depicted in the book completely foreign yet vaguely familiar in a sense.
The book is part of a trilogy (yet to be completed) and I believe the second part The Fractal Prince has just been, or in the process of being published.
It's also published by Gollancz (the same publisher for Neuromancer in 1984), and if you have your hands on a first edition hard copy of that book, I'll be your best friend ;)
5:18 - Thank you! I'm not sure if I need Expat Shield to download or view any of them. But that's only for Windows anyway. Will try some of those other links listed there! :)
5:26, I haven't! But I'm looking for something new to read, so I'll see if I can find it on Kindle! (Always cheaper on Kindle. ^_^ )
More speculation about which villain Benedict Cumberbatch is playing in the new Star Trek film. At least we know it's not Khan.
The first one was brilliant. I loved the reboot because you don't have to be a Star Trek fan to know these people. My daughter had never watched a Star Trek episode in her life and she loved it. I can't wait for the sequel.
All these teenage kids on youtube calling themselves electronic music producers. Seems like no one wants to be in a band anymore.
Gerard Butler & Deadmau5??
Hahahahahaha ^_^
Why learn to play an instrument when you can make 'music' on your laptop?
Why learn to read when you can get the audio book. ^_~
Why learn your multiplication tables when you can use a calculator?
Seriously. You don't make music on your laptop. Your laptop, programmers and others make the music and you take credit for it. The most ingenious and saddest form or cheating there ever was. Even worse than autotune. Serious fail.
All these teenage kids on youtube calling themselves electronic music producers. Seems like no one wants to be in a band anymore.
That's wayyy cooler than being in a band now.
Why embrace a new approach to doing things when you can be puritanical elitist stuck in the last century?
I would rather have kids spend their time making music other people don't feel deserves any kind of respect, than have those kids doing drugs, drinking, getting involved in gang violence or having unprotected or peer pressured sex. A little perspective, 2:05AM. And, one man's trash is another man's treasure. Just because you don't like their "music", doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.
No on should go through life expecting technology to be there for them. If you can't function on your own, without the aide of technology, then you won't survive. The only thing that is certain, is that nothing is.
http://breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/26879625651/so-a-girl-walks-into-a-comedy-club
Seriously. You don't make music on your laptop. Your laptop, programmers and others make the music and you take credit for it. The most ingenious and saddest form or cheating there ever was. Even worse than autotune. Serious fail.
July 10, 2012 1:56 PM
Well that's your opinion and it's not shared by the hundreds of thousands that love that form of music, (and yes it is music) or the people that compose and record it.
3:45 que?
Are you guys serious?
Electronic music is a different art form, and it can't be compared to other forms of music. I don't happen to like it, and neither does my daughter, but my 12 year old loves it. He has been making records on his computer since he was 8. That's not to say he doesn't like other forms of music as well. He loves Blink-182, Soundgarden, Led Zeppelin and Nirvana. He also loves Chopin's piano concertos, and Tchaikovsky's 6th symphony, as well as choral music by Bach, Verdi, Handel, and Mouton. He has been playing drums since he was 10, and plans to be in a real band one day.
Electronic music will never replace real, live music, any more than comic books will replace novels.
By the way, I lived through the Disco era, and I remember people saying rock was dead. People like The Rolling Stones and Rod Stewart hopped on the Disco bandwagon so as not to be left behind. A few years later, rock made a resurgence and Disco faded by the wayside. Looking back, Rod Stewart's Do Ya Think I'm Sexy seems quite ridiculous. It's not always a good idea for rockers to jump into the new and popular thing in an attempt to remain relevant.
If anyone is interested, the Shakespeare Uncovered series, being shown in conjunction with The Hollow Crown, is quite good. Jeremy Irons did a wonderful episode on the Henrys, and my Queen, Joely Richardson, does the Women of Shakespeare. I also enjoyed Derek Jacobi's episode on Richard II, although I didn't get to watch it all.
I'm hoping BBC will release all of these, along with The Hollow Crown in a boxed set. :)
On a side note:
If you have Expat Shield, you can still watch all of these on the BBC2 site. Expat Shield is available for Mac as well as Windows. I watch so much BBC, I couldn't live without it.
No 5:32 disco didn't "fade" it went underground when it was rejected by mainstream America, and evolved into House, where the sound was picked up by the Europe and the UK which started an underground electronic music wave that lasted over twenty years and is now finally being noticed by a new generation in America.
Electronic music will never replace real, live music, any more than comic books will replace novels.
There is no difference between the people that enjoy going to electronic music festivals and hearing that form of music live than there is with people that go to see a performer or a group of people play some instruments.
Just as comic books are a different medium which do the same thing a book does: tell a story.
Electronic music is a different art form, and it can't be compared to other forms of music
Course it can, it's narrow minded to presume otherwise solely on the basis of your dislike of it.
No 5:32 disco didn't "fade" it went underground when it was rejected by mainstream America, and evolved into House
Which is exactly what I meant by "faded". It faded away in popularity. To fade does not mean to go away completely.
Honestly, I am not arguing with you, and I'm not belittling your musical tastes. Did I not say my 12 year old loves electronic music?
I think you're just looking for people here to validate your love for it, and frankly, I don't think it's going to happen here. People have different tastes, and most people here seem to like rock music.
I love choral music myself, but I'm not going to go on about the latest recording I purchased here. No one would care, and that's okay. I like what I like. You like what you like. That's really all that matters.
Why embrace a new approach to doing things when you can be puritanical elitist stuck in the last century?
Why not keep an open mind and enjoy new things, whilst still enjoying the rich cultural heritage we have from the past?
Nobody but old people, 40 year old virgins, and 13 year old "Hiddles" fangirls gives a shit about your BBC Shakespeare crap either. That doesn't stop you from posting about it constantly.
July 5 4:29,
You definitely did the right thing by speaking up. Very young babies are not great at regulating heat. They end up fitting, sometimes leading to brain damage or even death. Good on you for listening to, and acting on, your instincts. XOX
Actually 6:25 the last thing I was looking for is validation of the music, it's a form of music that you love or don't. I also get it polarizes, and know people think it inferior to the more traditional forms.
If you say you can't stand it, (which you did) there is nothing wrong with that, I respect that. What I am saying is don't say it's not music blah blah for whatever reason you think justifies it. It is music, just not your style of it.
I think Choral music is nice too.
Why not keep an open mind and enjoy new things, whilst still enjoying the rich cultural heritage we have from the past?
What makes you think they're not?
Nobody but old people, 40 year old virgins, and 13 year old "Hiddles" fangirls gives a shit about your BBC Shakespeare crap either. That doesn't stop you from posting about it constantly.
How would you know that? You must be 13 or a 40 year old virgin.
While this is the calmest arguing I've read here in, well ever, isn't it kind of early for this guys? Is nobody working, or sleeping in? I'm sure the misunderstandings can wait until after Noon.
Thank you, 6:52AM. But, I'm sure someone else would have done something eventually.
isn't it kind of early for this guys?
not if you're a Brit, mid afternoon in the UK
I love Shakespeare!! And I'm well under 40 and live with a gorgeous man.
Post more!!!
which Brit recently confessed to hating Shakespeare?
Sign in damn it.
You don't have to be a Brit to love Shakespeare, and being a Brit doesn't necessarily mean you have to love it (or even like it).
I fell in love with Shakespeare when I was in 9th grade and never looked back. :)
Okay, I'm going to check out ExPat Shield for Mac. I did manage to dl the first part of Hollow Crown, thanks to nonnies here! ^_^ I'm going to watch it tomorrow.
My mom sent me links to this old show called Blackpool with David Tennant. I've never heard of it before, but she is enamored of it! I'm going to take a look at some of that tomorrow, too. :D
Oh you guys, now, Daniel Tosh. What do you think of this mess? Personally, I've always hated this d-bag and have never found him funny.
Daniel Tosh is an idiot, but at least he apologized, which is more than some people would do.
I would never pay a dime to see this guy, regardless.
I think most people who truly love Shakespeare begin at an early age. I was thirteen, and I was bowled over by the passion and the poetry.
As I've grown, the plays have grown with me. Each time I read one, I see something new -- something that maybe required a bit more life experience to understand. That's what makes him such a great writer. Everything is there: love, honor, jealousy, rage, grief, obligation, despair. If you've felt it, he has written about it. How can you not love that?
That wasn't an apology. It was a fauxpology with a lot of "BUT!"s and "IT'S REALLY HER FAULT"s.
Also, agree with 12:12, and LMAO that I got 666. ^___^
Ahh, Shakespeare. Was the man we know as Shakespeare really the man behind the words? Or was he a fake, phony and a liar? Was this man the wizard behind the curtain or just the illusion? The debate grows.
Who was the real Shakespeare and would his words and works be any less poignant if the image so many have of him was proven to be a false image?
Ponder.
I wonder what Shakespeare would think of being mentioned at 669? I think he would like it.
I don't believe we will never know the answer to that question, 9:53. The 17th Earl of Oxford, Edward de Vere, certainly did have the education and background that many people think was needed to write of the history and court intrigue so prevalent in Shakespeare's works. I've heard Derek Jacobi and Mark Rylance speak in depth about the reasons they believe he is the true author. But there is no proof, and I doubt there ever will be.
When I was in England, this homeless guy came up to my friends and I and he was extremely into the "did Shakespeare write these plays or not?" thing. He walked us around different parts of town, showing us these landmarks that suggested the Earl of Oxford was the man behind the words. The only thing I remember was a statue with Tudor roses on the shoes But he talked to us for a good long time. I was frantically trying to take notes, but all I had was my little tour itinerary and I couldn't keep up with him.
The whole thing was really neat, but I'm not sure if I believe it.
I believe the real Shakespeare was Ed, the 17th Earl of Oxford. I really do. He was unhappy with the political turmoil and philosophy of the times but determined to keep his head. So he invented Shakespeare.
I don't care who wrote those works, I'm just happy we have them to read. To theorize is fun and interesting, but in truth it doesn't matter who wrote them, a nobleman or a peasant, having the writing is what counts.
Although, if Shakespeare turned out to be a woman, then it would makes things even more controversial, IMO.
I've always been intrigued by the theory that de Vere was the true Shakespeare. I was really excited when the movie Anonymous came out, but then I saw it. What a festering pile of crap it turned out to be. :/ The historical inaccuracies drove me right up the wall.
I was really excited when the movie Anonymous came out, but then I saw it. What a festering pile of crap it turned out to be.
I was equally excited and ultimately bummed about that one.
I don't care who wrote those works, I'm just happy we have them to read. To theorize is fun and interesting, but in truth it doesn't matter who wrote them, a nobleman or a peasant, having the writing is what counts.
This, so much.
The words will live on. That's what matters.
I agree with the it's the message not the messenger principle but shouldn't the proper person get the credit. Peasant or nobleman? Would his words be any less sweet if they were the words of a nobleman? Would they touch any less hearts and souls?
Would any of you change your mind regarding your appreciation, love and respect of Shakespeare's works if you found out he wasn't the man you pictured? Would it really matter?
It shouldn't. His works are classic. They're brilliant. The face behind them really shouldn't matter. Or should it?
Should the face behind the mask matter? Ever?
Such a deep topic to discuss on a Thursday afternoon.
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That's a double-edged question, 2:04PM.
In regards to Shakespeare, I don't think it matters in the end. However, it might inspire people in different ways to fulfill their own secret potential if it turned out he was something other than what is generally believed. It would be interesting to know more truth if it's out there. But it probably wouldn't put a dent in what most people believe already. He's a legend now. It's hard to change those, even with truth. Good day.
I don't it is a double edged question. I think it's an honest question.
What matters more? The man/the face/the image or the beauty of the words and work? I would be very disappointed if the face or the name mattered more than his work. Or her work.
*don't think it is
Identity either matters or it doesn't. It either makes a difference to you or it doesn't. It's that simple.
Honestly, I don't know whom I feel sorrier for. The sheep being led to slaughter or the one who's leading them. The controlled or the controller.
Do you feel sorry for the mice who out wit the snake or for the outwitted snake who starves to death?
Joining an impersonal, unrelated conversation should not give other people the means to infer what they want about private (uncommented upon) issues. It should be that simple.
If you want things to change, you have a very strange way of going about it. Good night everyone.
Changing the subject from whatever the fuck nonsense being spouted about snakes and such...
**HENRY IV SPOILERS**
I finally got to watch Henry IV Part One today, and although I enjoyed it very much and thought both Tom Hiddleston and Jeremy Irons were fantastic, I liked Richard II more.
I felt both productions brought something new to the plays, but I liked the direction Richard II took much more so than Henry IV. Ben Whishaw was a revelation. He totally made me look at Richard in a new light. I've always loved Richard's eloquence, but have never been able to relate to him. With this one broadcast, all of that changed.
The thing I didn't like about this Henry IV was its Falstaff. There was nothing appealing about him at all; he was just a pathetic, immoral old man. The vitality and humor just weren't there. I could find no reason why Hal would be so fond of him. This is not the Falstaff I remember. It made his interactions with Hal fall flat, except for the "play within a play" scene, which was really good.
Hiddleston and Irons did redeem the presentation for me with their poignant father/son scenes. The chemistry between them was great, and I'm looking forward to the next part because there will be less Falstaff and more of Hal and his father.
Ben Whishaw was a revelation.
Truth. He needs to be in all the things.
P.S. His hair alone was a revelation in Richard II. Just sayin'.
Do you feel sorry for the mice who out wit the snake or for the outwitted snake who starves to death?
Why would you feel sorry for the mouse who outwits the snake? I mean... It outwitted the snake.
6:31, I heard similar things from other people, particularly about Falstaff. I know I said I was going to watch it today, but then a bunch of things happened. Tomorrow, though!
It was a Hesher reference. I thought you would get that.
I get it. The snake dies and is free from his cage but the mice are still there. Trapped. They may have outwitted the snake and not have been eaten by it but they are still trapped in that cage. Running round and round in the same circle forever.
Why would you feel sorry for the mouse who outwits the snake? I mean... It outwitted the snake.
See 10:47 for why.
Or maybe they are jubilant to still have the opportunity to run round and round forever. It's all in the perception.
Ah, so the assumption is that snakes are in cages.
Here's a funny story. My cousin's family had a snake for years. It was named Monty. (You can guess what kind of snake it was.) They always had to feed Monty rats, because she was so huge. One time, they put a rat in the terrarium with Monty. The rat just ran around and around for days, not letting Monty catch it.
Eventually, they decided that the rat was just meant to live. They took her out of the terrarium and gave her her own place. My cousin (five or six at the time) named the rat Lucky. I think it lived for about seven years.
Why, Kapunua, is that your tongue in your cheek? You made me smile. Some rats (or mice) are just Lucky. (But, some cages are bigger. Some snakes more determined. We can but hope and do our best. Forgive us, we're rodents.)
I haven't seen Hesher yet. :/
Hiya guys, how are you all?
Anonymous said...
Hey Miss T. That sounds really dangerous. I've never been one for camping, and now I have still and yet another reason to dislike it. :(
July 6, 2012 7:01 PM
Anonymous said...
Thank you, 6:21. Would have preferred the mother just being more responsible instead.
Miss T, I think there may just be a lot of mis/uninformed people out there. A shame that all of this loss could be so easily prevented.
You guys are so right. It's a big reason to dislike camping and I bet the familes of these BBQ victims feel that way. It's such a sad tragic accidental way to go. Their parents must be beside themselves thinking if only we'd been just a little more vigilant. Such a sad waste.
like with the BBQ situation in the UK, a warning should have been given out to the people. Especially as the deaths started to mount. Tragedy and shame.
Good evening everyone.
I agree 9:46, the government should do some of those safety adverts to make people more aware. It's sad when it happens once, twice but when it starts to be six, seven times there should be better warnings.
Shakespeare song
Richard III
Kings and Queens of England
The last is my fave.
Enjoy.
Oh my Lord. I get it now. I do. I sooo get it.
Okay, yes, I'm babbling. Incoherently. Like an idiot. But you guys, I finally understand what some of you have been on about so incessantly. I saw This Means War, and Tom Hardy is quite possibly the most gorgeous, cuddly, adorable man on the planet. Now I'm off to see everything he has ever done.
Carry on.
So sooner or later, somebody is going to bring up the fact that JGL said something idiotic today. I figure it might as well be me.
I fully realize that it's hard being a celebrity. I can't imagine having every single word I say scrutinized by millions of people. But then, most celebrities choose to be in the spotlight, so they have to be willing to take the good with the bad.
When a famous person misspeaks, or when one of their erroneous preconceived notions about race or gender comes out in an interview, the way they handle it in the aftermath makes all the difference. I hope JGL can admit his mistake, and use this incident as a learning experience -- a chance to rethink some of his ideas about women and humor, and to grow from it.
I think it's a common misconception that the "class clown" became that way in order to make up for shortcomings they might have had in the looks department, and that applies to both men and women. People don't expect good-looking people in general to be particularly funny.
I'm not excusing what he said. Not even close. It was a stupid moment, and Ms. Blunt should have smacked him upside the head. He didn't say "good-looking people", he specified "pretty girls", which was extraordinarily dumb and, yes, offensive. I just hope that maybe he'll rethink his views and understand that he still has some work to do when it comes to how he views a female's sexuality as it relates to other qualities (talent, humor, etc.)
And for the love of God, I hope he doesn't come forward with one of those "that's not what I meant to say", half-assed, non-apology apologies.
It will be interesting to see how this thing plays out.
^ This, this, this. This is everything I've said on my Tumblr. He needs to apologize. yes, it's hard to be in the spotlight, but he's just shown some internalized sexism and he should really take a look at that. Especially if he wants to continue to be taken seriously as a feminist ally.
What did he say Kapunua?
Uh, what did he say exactly? And before we skin him for this mistake, I want to say I sincerely believe he is a feminist. His past efforts do count. And I fully expect future effort coming from him for our cause. I will give him a chance to make up for whatever he may have done. My hope for him is too great. I also acknowledge that he is a human, and a dude too boot. :/ So, MAKE IT RIGHT, Joe. We need you.
Men, they seem to have a way of putting a foot in their mouth.
Or an entire leg, 5:30. It is a homosapien thing, though. Everyone makes mistakes. It's the acknowledging it and trying to make it right that counts. I hope whatever JGL said isn't something he can't come back from.
and a dude too boot. :/
Oh well you can't be perfect ^_^
As long as he doesn't keep repeating whatever it was, I think he will be given benefit of the doubt.
No, if he crossed a line and people feel he needs to apologize, then he should. Just refraining from saying it again doesn't really make things better.
No one and nothing is perfect.
You don't say 6:08.
Not everyone accepts apologizes, if it were that easy 6:07 everyone would be able to move on from perceived slights and there would be no misunderstandings, fighting or wars.
He was trying to compliment Emily Blunt and said that she was very funny, and followed it up with, "And you know, pretty girls aren't usually funny." He immediately was like, "Not that I want to make generalizations!" but of course, he already had.
I really do know that feeling of saying the most goddamn stupid thing and wishing like hell you could put it back into your mouth, or rewind or something.
But for one thing, it's really bad timing (not that it's ever GOOD timing for something like that.) It's totally toxic to need to insult other women in order to compliment one. ("You're not like all those other girls! You're special!") It's also an insult to all the fabulous comediennes he's worked with over the years.
And the whole "She's pretty so she doesn't have to think" idea is completely toxic, too. It would have been different if he'd made a case for, "Attractive people have more opportunities," but he didn't, he specified "girls."
Even Emily Blunt was visibly upset.
Because he's been so vocal about supporting gender equality for so long, I'm sure that he regrets it. But still, it shows that he hasn't entirely worked out his privileged perceptions yet. And he needs to apologize.
I forgive him. And I still think him pro-female.
He appears like someone who genuinely cares, I may be wrong but to date he hasn't given me that impression despite the gaff.
Unlike some other people...
Fucking internet. Always. You have to actually make the effort and SPEAK the apologies. And generally, it helps if it vaguely appears that you mean it, 6:28. THEN there would be no (or just less) misunderstandings, fighting or wars. It would also help to think before actually doing or saying something. So, I've heard, anyway, 6:25.
I'd also like to add, I do feel JGL does genuinely care, he did IMMEDIATELY try to fix his remark which implies something good about him. Not everyone has that. And he could have said something much, much worse. Other people have, 7:31. I hope things work out for him and he understands why some people are upset about this. His efforts have been much needed and greatly appreciated. We don't want to lose him in this, or find out he isn't what we believed him to be. Not commenting again. Good fucking night.
And Kapunua, thank you for explaining what happened. Good night.
8:23 why are you always hyped up when you come here? Not trying to be offensive to you or anything, just trying to understand you.
No 8:23 it's about F.O.R.G.I.V.E.N.E.S.S. Unless people are willing to do that, words mean nothing.
bunch of hypocrites, hahaha. How quickly you're ready to forgive an asshole just because you want to sit on his dick.
Prove it 9:25.
9:25 if you think that women forgive men because they want to "sit on his dick" I would say you major misconceptions about how women think.
you're ready to forgive an asshole
I don't agree with you. I don't think he is. I'm not a fan of his, but he still strikes me as an intelligent man.
I think he's intelligent and does try his best, but of course he is in a position of HUGE privilege and he let some internal sexism slip. I believe he tries to fight that off, but it's still there.
He's got to acknowledge that what he said was wrong.
Also, Hi Misty! That last link is too cute. There's no way I could remember all that!
Did anybody get a download for Henry IV Part 2?
I'm having a hard time even getting part 1.
I have a download for part 2 that's an mp4, but all the downloads I found for part 1 were avi files.
Sorry. Forgot to add the link.
This is part 2 in mp4 format. I can give you the part 1 link too, but I think it's already been posted here. It's really the only one out there and it's avi, but it can be converted prettily easily. The conversion took me longer than the download though. :/
TY TY nonnie! Yeah, I did get the AVI, but I couldn't convert it. I tried with FLV and it was like "I have no idea what this is."
I used handbrake. It took forever, but it worked.
I doubt we'll see an apology from JGL unless someone raises a stink about it. My thoughts are that he apologized to Emily Blunt, and maybe he is rethinking his views about "pretty girls" because she obviously did get upset. But, unless he is aware that he upset other people, he probably won't make a deal about it. He'll probably just be more careful in the future.
I'm upset with him, but what he said isn't enough to make me stop seeing his films. But I don't think I'll ever like him in the same way again.
I guess that's kind of how I feel. Privilege REALLY shows when the only time you have to say you're sorry for something is if "important" people get upset enough.
I do think his heart is in the right place and he effed up royally. I also doubt he'll ever screw up like this again, BUT, I have lost some respect for him over this.
I don't think it would stop me from seeing his films. It would have to be a much bigger deal than this. I still watched Jared Leto's movies after he did Chapter 27, which I was very much against.
If he keeps screwing up though, then yeah. Everyone gets a few chances from me, but this is strike one.
Most pretty girls aren't funny.”
Typical stereotyping. Pretty girls are meant to be looked at and not witty, smart or funny. Ugly girls have to funny, smart or have good personalities because they don't have the looks going for them.
He might as well have said only ugly, unattractive girls are funny. it's the same thing and I'm sure there would be more outrage if he had used those words which mean the same thing.
There are alot of pretty girls who are very funny. I'm sure many comedians are outraged by his douchebag statement.
The thing about women and humor is that men view women with a "sense of humor" very differently than women do. A man will think a woman has a great sense of humor if she thinks he is funny. They don't really want women who are funny because they feel threatened by it. "Funny" is regarded traditionally as a male quality.
There was a study about this that received a lot of attention not too long ago in the UK.
I felt bad for Emily Blunt. But God, not nearly as bad as I did for Scarlett Johansson when she was doing Avengers interviews. I thought she was going to punch the interviewers a couple of times. All she got asked about were questions pertaining to her catsuit, or about how it felt to be so "hot".
2:04, yeah, that was ridiculous. She called out one of the interviewers on that, too. Good for her!
Anyway, here is my small protest on hitrecord. ^_^;;
I like your protest, Kapunua. I hope it gets Joe's attention. It certainly makes your point.
I watched the second part of Henry IV, and was very moved by the interaction between Hal and his father as the king was dying.
Despite my earlier dislike for Beale's Falstaff, I found myself feeling profound pity for the old guy in the end.
Hal has always been a difficult character for me. I find myself thinking he's a total jerk for giving his father so much grief. No matter what his reasons, he comes off as a bit of a selfish prick. Another thing that really bothers me is his treatment of poor Francis, the drawer. He behaves as though he thinks the poor, dull-witted man deserves to be the butt of his jokes, never taking into account his disadvantages in life.
But Hal is a prince, and it's expected that growing up with all that privilege would go to his head. It's funny how that translates so well to people of privilege, even to this day.
I can't help but wonder if any of you would even care about these Shakespeare broadcasts if your matinee idol wasn't in them.
Seeing as how Shakespeare was my focus in my four years of college...
11:26 Hal did start out as a cruel, privileged boy. A lot of Shakespeare's plays used the lower class for comedy, so it's no surprise that the character Hal would, too.And yet, Shakespeare was wildly popular with the "common people."
Hal has a big character arc though, and that's one thing I really love.
I love Hal's character arc too, and I understand that he's a very complex character and a true politician at heart. I also realize that the scene with Francis was put in for comedy, and it's generally a hit with audiences, even today.
I guess the problem I have is that I usually need someone to root for, and obviously, in Henry IV, misunderstood, maligned Hal is that person. It's just that his treatment of poor, dimwitted Francis makes me like him a lot less.
As far as Falstaff goes, I think he gets what he deserves. If anything, Hal (as Henry V) is very generous to him, giving him an income for life. It shows he has a heart in addition to being a politician.
But I guess that's the thing about Shakespeare, and any other good writer. Their characterizations are complex. They don't write people as either/or, but in various shades of grey.
I really love it when I love a not-so-good character. When they do bad, mean, petty things and I still feel pathos for them, or root for them. Or when I get to watch them change. Or self destruct. That kind of character is so damn hard to create!
They don't write people as either/or, but in various shades of grey.
As long as it's not 50. ;D
10:55, it's funny you should mention that. I'm actually really cool with a whole new generation getting into Shakespeare via their fanpoodling for their actor crush. I think it's brilliant.
My thoughts on this, let me show them to you.
They don't write people as either/or, but in various shades of grey.
As long as it's not 50. ;D
Oh dear god. Did I really say that? That term is forever going to be ruined now, isn't it.
Damn crappy bad Mary-Sue fanfic passed off as a novel. :(
Hehe, precisely.
Don't start this "Mary Sue" crap up again out of the blue. Don't jump on the opportunity just because someone so cleverly handed it to you. Rise above and leave it. Otherwise, you bring it on yourselves. There is no reason to start throwing mud again.
Umm...what?
What are you talking about 2:46? Find out about 50 Shades and stop assuming unrelated things are about something else.
Apparently, 2:46 doesn't know that teh whole internetz has been bitching about Mary Sue fanfic since what? The day the internet was invented?
Take a clue 2:46, and familiarize yourself with urban dictionary. It will open up whole new worlds of communication for you. ;)
I liked your tumblr post about Shakespeare and fandom, Kapunua. It's so very true. I love that all over tumblr people are actually talking about the plays. They're getting into the plot lines, character motivations, etc. And they're also discovering some amazing actors who aren't Tom Hiddleston. I've seen more people saying that Ben Whishaw deserves a BAFTA than Tom, even though they have Loki-related names and themes.
Kapunua I tend to agree with you, if a new generation can be introduced to the great works of Shakespeare through popular actors, why not?
Yeah, exactly! ANd you know who I've LOVED in this series so far? Rory Kinnear. He was fabulous.
I don't follow actors and Tom Hiddleston only came to my radar when you all started talking about that movie based on that comic book(which I haven't watched)
I must admit from what I have seen of the BBC series his interpretation has some "bite".
There were so many good performances in all three plays, it would be hard to pick a favorite.
David Suchet was excellent as York, James Laurenson brilliant as Westmoreland. I was also quite impressed by young Henry Faber III as Prince John.
Tom Hiddleston won a Laurence Olivier award for playing Cassio in a 2008 Donmar production of Othello. He was in two of the films nominated for Best Picture of 2011, and he got the part of Loki because he was Kenneth Branagh's protege. Quite an impressive resume.
He really is quite talented. He's not just some "hot guy" in a comic book film.
From what I have seen 5:00 he is very talented, but what strikes me about him is not his easy on the eye appearance, but his intelligence which translates through his performance. That's what makes a man "hot" in my opinion and draws you in.
At least for me :)
I agree completely, 5:09. I do think he's attractive, but not "gorgeous" like say, Chris Evans or Chris Hemworth.
The thing that makes him so "hot" is his talent, his social grace, and his intelligence. He just comes off as the greatest guy in the world in interviews.
You should see him in War Horse. Although he's only in it for maybe 15 minutes, his character made such an impression on me. So noble, so honorable and so kind. I don't think anyone else would have done so much with that part.
You should watch Thor, 4:40. The relationship that Loki has with his father and brother are really very Shakespearean in nature. Even though it's just a comic book movie, Hiddleston will bowl you over.
but not "gorgeous" like say, Chris Evans or Chris Hemworth.
I think that depends on what you consider attractive.
I don't normally watch anything comic driven, but from the way you described it, I might 5:20 :)
I think that depends on what you consider attractive.
I agree. I much prefer Tom's body type to Thor and Captain America. He's very tall and lean, and he has those chiseled English features that have always attracted me. I also tend to be attracted to men with blondish, curly hair and blue/green eyes.
Tom's not the current over-muscled, action hero type that's so popular in Hollywood, but I'll take his kind of handsome over that any day.
The "Hollywood type" doesn't appeal to me either. One type doesn't fit all.
Tom Hiddleston is a good comedic actor as well. Has anybody here seen him in Suburban Shootout?
I really agree that it takes a while for someone to be "hot" to me, and it has everything to do with the way they present themselves. I do have an instant "Ohh, he's cute!" reaction with some guys, and Hiddleston is one of them because I just really like tall guys with curly hair and a nice smile. :)
Cumberbatch grew on me through the strength of his acting. Did you all see him in Atonement? He was unrecognizable, grotesque, even. Not because of how he looked, but just how he acted. And then in Tinker Tailer, he was amazing. It only came to me slowly that he had the looks, too.
I think one of the most enduringly gorgeous humans on earth is Michael Palin. He's kind of my first love and I don't think that's ever going to go away. It doesn't matter how old he is; he's just as sparkly as he was when I first saw him in Monty Python when I was a kid.
Talent, a big smile, and that searing intelligence. You just can't beat it!
Talent, a big smile, and that searing intelligence. You just can't beat it!
Agree!
Intelligence and humor (witty not vile) draws me like a magnet to that man.
Oh yes, Kapunua. His very comical interpretation of Pontius Pilate and his "big" friend ;)
Biggus Dickus and his wife, Incontinentia Buttocks.
*dying*
I could watch Michael Palin in Monty Python all day. (And have.) Especially when he would play those totally cheesy characters, like talk show hosts and gangsters and pepperpots and Cardinal Richelieu.
He is so shiny.
I know, just the facial expressions in that scene! Hilarious :)
Also like him as the annoying American woman (Terry Jones and Eric Idle make good women too) in the death scene in The Meaning of Life.
He didn't eat the mousse!
And the machine that goes ping!
Especially when he would play those totally cheesy characters, like talk show hosts and gangsters and pepperpots and Cardinal Richelieu.
And dead parrots!
one of the best
JGL apologized and said he was embarrassed by what he said. All is right with the world.
I was very happy to hear his apology. I know some people won't forgive him for it, but I think they're being too harsh. Everyone makes mistakes. He showed to me that he knows he's not above making a fool of himself sometimes, and he was genuinely embarrassed about it.
I was happy, too. And for the people who don't accept that apology, all I have to say is, I guess they've never said the wrong thing, either?
I was pissed when he said it. All I wanted to hear was "sorry, that was wrong," and he said that and more. It was an actual apology and not a fake or defensive one. That's how it's done!
It's always good to accept it when someone admits to screwing up. ^_^
He appears a genuine and decent guy Kapunua.
I respect people like him.
I do, too. :)
Mya apologized to you over your job, Kapunua. Didn't she.
Russian blue cats are so pretty!!
Yea, and verily did I accept!
6:02, they are pretty. I had two Russian blue cats that I got from a neighbor who was ditching them. :)
Do you atill have them Kapunua?
Aww, good on Joe. I knew he had it in him. I'm so impressed! Although, I really expected nothing less. He's always come off like such a responsible, intelligent and compassionate person. It may be corny to say it, but I am so damn proud of him. You The Man, Joe! Do you happen to have a link of the apology (in whatever format it took), Kapunua? I would love to read or watch it. Thankies :)
His very own Tumblr. *applause* Warning: It gets awkward at the end because the interviewer tries to show him something about a hamster? O_O
6:24 - No, sadly. That was years ago. Their names were Zack and Zeppelin. :)
Aww, Joe. He did look so uncomfortable and regretful. He was even gracious about the interviewer bringing it up. Thank you for posting that, Kapunua. It was nice to hear that he'd apologized, but it changes things even more seeing it for myself. I'm really proud of him. I have so much I expect of him. Which, isn't fair, but I think he can handle it. This incident rather proves that. And since I'm here, was that interviewer implying something vulgar about women's privates in comparison to the poor hamster? Am I just misinterpreting that, or what? Cuz if she was saying what I'm assuming here, isn't she just perpetuating the issues we're trying to combat? And she's a chick, so I'm confused by that. Much cred to Joe for being VISIBLY taken aback by that comment, and saying clearly that he didn't think it was funny. <3Joe. Thanks again, Kapunua.
No probs! And I have totally no clue what that gal was saying to him / showing him.
I just think he is a very good dude, and he handled that better than I could have. Especially in front of all those people. Mad props.
I wouldn't think that was funny coming from a guy. Some people regardless of gender don't understand humor, though that at times is a bit subjective.
What's he wearing in that pic? Red red polish?
Sweet.
Well yea, apologizing in front of heaps of people would suck! That's a definite level of humiliation that no one in their right mind would want, so good on Joe for braving that and doing the right thing when the opportunity was there. (He seemed to absolutely jump on that, this impresses me also!) Even in private, admitting you've done something you're ashamed of and apologizing for it isn't easy. So big kudos to him, across the board. And this has nothing to do with anything we're discussing, but his voice is so deep -I'm too used to Tommy's prepubescent voice, dripping with sarcasm. It kinda jolts me every time that man voice comes out of him. O_O
Are you referring to what Joe said, or the hamster joke, 8:58? I didn't care for either. But at least Joe stepped up. I'm thinking the interviewer thought she was being clever. Or possibly, she didn't expect Joe to be regretful and apologize and had no other material to throw at him, other than something (really confusing) and inappropriate. Anyway, night everyone. And much obliged, Kapunua. :)
I think that's the greatest fallacy 9:19. Why is it humiliating to apologize if you understand something you did to be an error in judgement? As for shame well I suppose that's relative to what was done and I can understand the shame resulting from the guilt.
If anything it shows strong character to step back and apologize and if anyone thinks he is weak then it highlights their own insecurities and perceptions imo.
As someone pointed out earlier no one is perfect and sometimes people stuff up. The main thing is that they learn from it.
It's not fallacy. I assume it would be humiliating to admit you've done something wrong with a bunch of strangers watching, judging and/or mocking you (as Joe was, surrounded in the video). Apologizing to the person you've wronged, in private, is different. Given that you'd be apologizing to them, this implies that this person knows you, and that would be less difficult than having strangers be as intimately aware of your flaws and mistakes than someone you've been close too. I never said or implied anyone was weak for owning their mistakes and trying to make things right, in fact I have repeatedly said the contrary. You also know I'm the anon who said no one is perfect. I personally, am far from it. You know this too, as I know this of you. And yes, aside from making things right, and doing your best not to hurt people again (if that was part of your mistake), learning from the experience is just as important.
I understand this subject can translate to private issues, but I was only speaking of the topic at hand. You don't need to twist my words or what I was trying to say with them, just because you don't like me. There is no need for any of this. Good night.
10:58 why do I get the feeling that you are taking this personally?
Firstly I have no idea who you are despite what you're suggesting, apart that you are an anon like myself and secondly it was MY OPINION.
I was not trying to "twist your words" or offend you in any way. So I'm sorry if it appeared that way, that was not my intention.
I guess we have to agree to disagree on the way we see things.
Henry V starts in a couple of days!!!
Shocked to hear about the Colorado shootings. I cannot believe how easy it is to get hold of a gun in the US. They need to be banned, for Gods sake.
OH my goodness there were babies and small children, so tragic, absolutely shocking. I can't even fathom it.
My condolences to the victims and your country.
THis is so terrible. A bunch of people just going out to have a good time, see a movie they've waited for, dress up, have a party - all kinds of innocent people of every age just doing a normal, human thing and having some fun. No one ever thinks of things like this happening.
And then some horrible, evil person does a thing like this. I can't even fathom it. How does this even occur to a person?
I don't have any words for what those people must be still going through.
Hiya guys, how are you all?
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Also, Hi Misty! That last link is too cute. There's no way I could remember all that!
LOL I know K, our crazy history, sometimes I think there's too much of it.
I too am a huge Monty Python fan. I have all the dvd's. I have a soft spot for the Spanish Inquisition jokes myself.
Just watching the Denver shootings news. I don't understand why people do these things, killing at random. I can understand someone wanting to kill an individual person they have an ongoing gripe with but to just go out and randomly shoot just baffles me. It says his apartment in boobytrapped. It's like he's decided today is the day and he's gonna cause as much chaos as possible. Just scary.
That's exactly what he did, MissT. He identified with The Joker. He wanted to cause chaos.
He blamed the world for his problems and wanted to make the world pay because he, an honor student and college graduate, a future PhD was stuck working in McDonalds. A job so beneath him, his degree and gifted intelligence.
Why should he, a far superior being, be made to suffer for society's and government's inadequacy? No. If he must suffer by working a job so beneath him than society will suffer his wrath.
As it appears now, as more details come to light, that was his thinking. A superiority complex at it worst, most violent and disgusting.
One. sick. evil. violent. fuck.
Too bad no one in that theater had a license to carry. He could have been shot and stopped dead in his tracks before injuring and killing so many innocent people.
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/colorado-suspect-brilliant-science-student-230349806.html>brilliant science student</a>
That's the problem when you feel you have no one to answer to other than yourself and <i>science</i>. When you make science your moral compass. When you make yourself your own God(ess).
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