Maybe I should have titled this "douchebag disease is contagious"....
Bob Bryer used his Twitter account to write the word "c--t" for all his fans and call it "art" and then, apparently according to someone at the NIN news site, he made a dick move in basically stealing his friend's idea and votes for making money for an animal shelter. Yes an animal shelter got money but he screwed over someone else to do it.
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I don't know either 1.11pm.
You should call your telephone service provider. Not all phone plans are the same. They should be able to answer your questions.
Wow. I hadn't thought about the text message thing.
Some companies make you pay for incoming text messages as well as outgoing ones, unless, of course you have unlimited texts.
I bet MCR fans are going to have some pretty pissed off parents to deal with.
according to Lindsey if you don't like her or think she is talented, then you must be fat and eat crisps all day. now i know why Gerard is so skinny. she probably makes fun of him when he gains a little weight.
I know it was Kitty who said the comment about still fitting into her 19 year old clothes. But Lindsay agree with that statement. Didn't Lindsey say she was fat in high school.
Did she forget she was fat or did she forget that she lied. Because I can easily see her forgetting that she was fat.
MCR and msi are supposed to be friends right? Than why is it every time you turn around msi are taking shots at MCR. That you must not have had friends remark seems to be aimed at Ray. Ray said something about not having a girlfriend so he practiced playing. They make fun of bands that have a message and want to help their fans. What a great bunch of friends with people like that who needs enemies.
Also I wish that interviews would throw Lindsey's contradictions in her face. The MH person should have asked than why did you say in this interview you can't play for shit but can back bend if you can play.
12:29,
That's what I love about that interview; reading about the band members that sounded pissed off at the questions they were being asked from the readers.
I'm a big reader of MH. In my opinion, there's probably half or most of the readers that don't really give a shit about MSI.
I actually like a lot of those questions, they seemed to ask a lot of questions most interviewers would be too chicken shit to ask, but MSI just snaked around them. Was I the only one who thought they seemed really put off by those questions? They seemed really defensive. Boo hoo, people called you on your shit, cry home to mommmy.
2:33,
And that's what I loved about that interview :D
Not saying it was a bad interview but mh could have easily called them out on all their shit.
Yes Martha, they could have, and that would have made it so much better, but it was still entertaining to hear their bullshit answers to some of the questions I have been dying to ask them myself.
i'm an awesome bass player and i can play bass in any fucking band.
i would just looove to see another band ask her to play them them.
in your dreams honey
^with
Lyn-Z: "i think the people writing these questions either a)can't play an instrument or b)could never be in a band. these people are sitting at home, probably eating crisps. commenting on all the things that i'm doing. if they hate me so bad that it inspires them to say, 'fuck her, i can do it better', then my job is done."
she is beginning to sound like a highly defensive, nasty type.
she also sounds like she has been taking too many tips from the husband.
What is it with Warner and all the special edition bullshit? Do they do this with other bands or is it just MCR because they know all the stupid little girls will be wanting the "special" one?
If I were still an MCR fan, which I am not, I think Warner and their stupid little marketing schemes would be enough to put me off the band.
Apparently Lindsey thinks the only people who don't like her are fat. According to her theory, I suppose when Gerard turns into the chub-o-lard we all know he's destined to become, he won't like her either.
Apparently Lindsey thinks the only people who don't like her are fat.
Who goes around with that sort of reasoning. Not an adult, more like a sixteen year old. And many sixteen year olds are far more emotionally mature.
Which really says it all about the way she thinks. Who could ever take her seriously?
Eliza used to whine about how fans called her fat and now Lindsey whines and says people who don't like her are fat.
Weird.
Gerard sure knows how to pick em.
I'm sorry but taking shots at people who go to Julliard?
Every shade of wrong.
Maybe she wanted to get in but didn't have the right stuff.
Whose who can, do. Those who can't, take cheap shots.
This for the anon who I was talking to last night about comic.
In a time when comic book geeks are actually getting laid and cute girls are parading around the convention halls in next to nothing to emulate their favorite superheroines, isn’t it a little sad that us girls have yet to have a quality superhero moment on celluloid? For the past decade or so we’ve been proud to shell out our ten bucks to the movie house to watch Tobey Maguire and Christian Bale kick ass in spandex, because seriously, it’s Tobey Maguire and Christian Bale in Spandex, but we deserve more than that.
Male superheroes are great and I’ll watch as many movies about them as the studios can shell out, but at the same time, attending the very same movies to see women reduced to the obligatory role of shrieking damsel in distress has been less than inspiring. Not to mention how it must look to the outside community to have the most powerful geeks in the business regressing to their no girls allowed stage. It’s not too late to right this wrong, Comic-book movies are more popular than ever now, and there has never been a better time to include strong females into the equation.
The movies will seriously be better for it, for instance how many times have you heard this sentence, “that movie was kick ass, except I didn’t like Kirsten Dunst,” or “X-Men was so awesome but I wish they would have found someone else to play Storm.” It’s not just girls who complain about this. Did you ever stop to think that it isn’t just the actresses who sully your favorite movies but the comic book movie industry’s lazy attitude towards women characters in general? The actress is only as good as her material, and the material is seriously lacking. We need to take a good look at who is really responsible for this boy’s club trend and how they can fix it. Who’s to blame may shock you.
Here is the rest of the story:
THE PROBLEM: There are so many amazing female characters in the Batman universe yet none of them seemed interesting enough to include in the otherwise brilliant Batman Begins. Granted, the inclusion of Rachel Dawes paid off big time in The Dark Knight, but you have to admit, the first time around she was a bit of a head scratcher. Why not Talia Al Ghul? She could have been a much more compelling love interest for the first movie. Adaptations don’t have to be exactly like the comics, but they do serve the purpose of effectively capturing characters we love and putting them on screen, so why ignore the women?
THE SOLUTION: Catwoman! If God is listening and Christopher Nolan does make a third movie within the next few years, then our friend Batman’s gonna need a new love interest, it would be great to have one that doesn’t need to be rescued all of the time (although once is fine). And for all of you who think that miss Selina Kyle is too obvious a character to include, well, so was The Joker and look how that turned out. After Michelle Pfeiffer’s interpretation, which while entertaining was not an accurate portrayal of the Catwoman we know today, and of course Halle Berry’s debacle, this iconic character needs to be redeemed something fierce. If anyone can do it, Christopher Nolan can.
Bryan Singer
THE PROBLEM: Well, he gave the ladies powers in the X-Men series, he just forgot the personalities. He turned the sexy, sassy southern belle Rogue into a mopey teenager, the diabolical Mystique into a naked mute, and the strong, regal storm into Halle Berry. If you’re going to take liberties with classic characters, why would you choose to make them less interesting? While the male characters got fully fleshed out personas for the most part, every female character got a moody emo-bitch makeover, Jean Grey is the only character that came away unscathed, but she was already a moody emo-bitch to begin with.
THE SOLUTION: Well, the damage is done, so nothing short of a complete retooling a la Batman Begins will give us the X-Women we fondly remember. But the next time Singer gets the chance to make a female heavy ensemble picture, it would do him well to make the femmes more interesting to watch.
Sam Raimi
THE PROBLEM: Not only did he pull a Bryan Singer and desexify our beloved Mary Jane Watson, he completely undermined his reasons for doing so in the third film. Kirsten Dunst’s Mary Jane was originally conceived as an amalgam of Spidey’s two great loves, the fiery Mary Jane Watson and the sweet Gwen Stacy. That made sense, until they for no good reason added Gwen in the third movie to contrive an unnecessary love triangle. If they needed a love triangle, they should have gone with the second love interest who made sense, Felicia “The Black Cat” Hardy. She may be more or less a Catwoman clone, but her addition to the story would have been a lot more exciting then adding yet another generic damsel in distress to the picture.
THE SOLUTION: Work on Mary Jane, and stop making every female character in the series a catalyst for the destruction of Spidey’s relationship, they have better things to do.
Rob Bowman, Jeannot Szwarc & Pitof
THE PROBLEM: If you haven’t heard of these filmmakers there’s a very good reason. They helmed Elektra, Supergirl: The Movie and Catwoman respectively. Granted they did exactly what I’m claiming hasn’t been done, they made superhero films centered on women, but they did it wrong in every possible way. They diminished the chances of strong box office numbers and therefore hurt the willingness of studios to invest in further female centered comic-book adaptations by making them about heroines who were originally sidekicks or love interests, disregarding all of the perfectly good heroines who operate alone. Nobody would want to watch Aqualad: The Motion Picture, would they? Especially not if it were as poorly made as these three. If people think that female centered comic-book movies inherently suck, then they will never get made. Why do you think the Wonder Woman movie has been shelved more times than the comics on which it’s based? A quality comic book movie can be made about a female hero, we just need a filmmaker who will put forth the effort.
THE SOLUTION: First of all, never let these three make movies again. Second, find someone who can not only make a film based on an iconic stand-alone superheroine, but who can make it brilliantly.
Women in comics are complex, strong, smart, beautiful, sexy, adventurous and perfectly lovable. If only the movies based on comics would portray them as such. Comic book movies may still be more of a guy thing, but women are a large part of the audience too, sometimes we just need to feel empowered. And you know that guys are still going to watch. Boobs and explosions are the most guy friendly combination imaginable, as long as there’s a good story to go with the boobs and explosions, men will watch. So what are the studios hesitating for?
Hi, MJ :)
Hello RW how are you.
Hi hi everyone and various anons about :)
I'm well, thank you, MJ :) How are you today?
Hi, BC :) *squeeze*. How's things?
LynZ should not say anything in interviews. Every time she opens her mouth she looks stupid.
And hello Anon :)
were they making fun of people that go to Julliard?
6:19 that might be a good idea.
hi rw, mj & bc
LynZ contradicts herself a lot, like Gerard.
You know, I'd actually have much less of a problem with her if in response to those interview questions she just said, for example: "Yes, I'm not a very good bass player. But I view my role up on stage as an entertainer, not a musician" instead of changing her story all the time & bad-mouthing talented musicians.
Ooops! Make that hello Anons :)
Hello BC and anons.
The others in the band shouldn't help her out either. They just make her look even worse than she does by herself
There are much better ways she could have handled herself in interviews. If she finds she's getting backlash, she has only herself to blame.
i agree rw, i don't know what she is trying to achieve by saying those things.
does she think it's funny (not) or is she trying to level anyone with talent because of what she may feel she lacks.
either way it's not very cool.
Also, the "I'm an inspiration to young women everywhere" malarkey has got to go.
i'm sure she got that line from the husband rw ;)
Well, 6:29pm, it's been my observation that the people who criticize those with talent the loudest are usually the ones who wish they had that talent themselves, but just can't get it together to do anything about it.
Damn right RW. And I will say it again ( so to the anon that doesn't like it too bad) If she wasn't to be seen as having talent she needs to show that she can play the bass. None of the silly gimmicks, costumes and unsubstantiated claims of her playing ability.
Her husband's obviously been feeding her a line of bull, 6:31pm. I'm sure he's the one whose been telling her all the time how great she is, that she's actually starting to believe it.
Kitty: "This is the main problem; just because you play an instrument doesn't mean you should go onstage. You can see a million people at Julliard fucking wailing on their instruments..."
Steve: "Which shows a lack of friends, if you have that much time to get that good."
Ithak Perlman went to Julliard. Yo-Yo Ma went to Julliard. Van Cliburn went to Julliard, for Christ sake.
Everyone in that band is an idiot.
*Itzhak
It's her force-feeding us the "I can play bass in any band" crap that annoys me the most. Does she think we're stupid? We're not blind and, unfortunately, not deaf either.
it's an insecurity rw, and by constantly prattling on about others she is highlighting it.
and it's also very disrespectful, but they think that's funny.
Steve: "Which shows a lack of friends, if you have that much time to get that good."
Do they really believe what they're saying?
I'm certain they think they were being so clever and funny in that interview.
Um, no, Lindsey. Imitating Jay and Silent Bob isn't really all that clever.
It's rudeness masquerading as outspokenness, 6:35pm.
Oh, and when Kitty talks about metaphors?
Do you even think she knows what a metaphor is?
it seems the band wants to celebrate mediocrity.
it also seems like an inkling of jealously for others successes.
Do you even think she knows what a metaphor is?
sounds like she's been listening to gerard a little too much. he claims everything is a metaphor.
It's a type of dinosaur, isn't it, 6:38pm?
Hi RW *squeeze* I am doing pretty good, eating at the moment thanks. How are things? :)
Hi Mj and anons.
Steve: "Which shows a lack of friends, if you have that much time to get that good."
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I guess for poor ol' Steve, it must also mean that he is lacking friends since he's in a band "playing" an instrument.
Lol, RW. I'm sure that's what Lindsey thought the first time she heard Gerard use the word.
Methinks their ounce of notoriety is giving them false courage, 6:38pm. However, their 15 minutes of fame should be coming to a close pretty soon. They should invest their ill-gotten gains in the stock market now while the buying is good before their well dries up.
I'm well, thanks, BC :) I had Kraft Dinner for supper O_o
I wouldn't be surprise if we found out that both Kitty and Steve tried to get into school for their music but were turned away.
"This is the main problem; just because you play an instrument doesn't mean you should go onstage.
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Hey Kitty, maybe you should tell that to Lyn-Z.
that rw i think is their whole point. ju is not stupid, i'm sure he is trying to maximize and much as possible in as little time the band has left.
Kraft Dinner for supper RW? X_X
I'm having a sandwich and some Ruffles for dinner ;p
But BC, LynZ doesn't actually play. So therefore, by Kitty's reasoning, she should be up onstage. Or some other such nonsense.
Ooooo!! What flavour of Ruffles, BC?
They'd better get on that, 6:45pm. They're fanbase - which, let's face it, is really just the most morbid & foaming members of the MCR fanbase - are going to outgrow them fast.
i suppose if i was playing a lot skeezy rock bars and then marry a relatively popular rawstah and suddenly have a comfortable existence, designer purses and monkeys, i too would develop a false bravado.
"This is the main problem; just because you play an instrument doesn't mean you should go onstage.
This is coming from people who are friends with a person who thinks having talent is boring.
I think they should get together and tell Ray he shouldn't go onstage.
Thanks to msi and MCR's support of them I see a future of even less talent people trying to become famous. Whole groups of people who can't play a single note getting on stage and acting like dumbasses.
I predict that with the economy the way it is around the world right now, the next wave of bands is going to lighten things up, be more fun & glam rather than morose & emo. That era should be coming to an end soon.
Hairy metal will be making a come back. Ray might be able to find a band to play in.
ARRRGGHHH!! No more hair metal!! >_<
Hair not Hairy but some of those dudes where hairy. I wonder if they put glitter on their chest hair
yes martha, he might be then seen as a credible musician by his peers
Anyway, it's my bedtime, must turn in.
Have a good night, everyone :)
goodnight rw
Goodnight RW :)
All Ray has to do is join a band that does covers of Poison songs.
Goodnight Rw
i can just see the next GW interview. we will probably get to read about the amazing bass playing skills of his wife, and how her "talent" first attracted him to the band all those years ago.
They were chedder cheese flavored ruffles RW :)
MJ, let's hope that doesn't happen. I hate hair metal.
Anon, yeah, and then we bet he's gonna come up with some lame new contradiction.
But most members of hair metal bands can play instruments. Maybe not as well as others but they can play and write songs called girls, girls girls that are still lyrically more complicated than anything JU has done
Lindsey is so talented on the bass that it took Gerard five years and the fact that they were dating to realize that.
i guess you never forget your one true love martha
Lindsey is so talented on the bass that it took Gerard five years and the fact that they were dating to realize that.
Gerard must have been addled by that truck that hit him.
Truth be told, it probably wasn't a truck at all. It was probably MSI's bus. They were all drunk and thought it would be a good idea to run down the fat panda.
lol
Somehow I don't think it was her bass playing that impressed him.
Love is blind. In Gerard's case, it must be deaf as well.
^And dumb. Oh wait, that's Lindsey.
And dumb and stupid. Just like her band likes it.
I don't think Gerard is exactly a candidate for MENSA. Judging by his choices in female companions, he's about as sharp as a bowling ball.
anons, they are in love...such a magical thing.
goddamn, they're having babies people!
Yes, about as magical as a broken condom.
such a magical thing.
Like unicorns! They even have the matching shirts to prove it!
Ah, you anons are making me laugh :D
They even have the matching shirts to prove it!
That proves it. Real love. Bet the baby gets one too.
Have you guys decided on baby names yet?
I was thinking they should name it Lyn-Zard
You forgot the sharpie message. you can't have real love with out matching unicorn shirts, sharpie messages and babies.
That sounds too much like lizard.
^ Sounds right to me ;)
Come summer, I'm sure we will see the obligatory baby picture from the punk Sonny & Cher. We might also get to hear about how having a baby with his best friend is just amazing.
Sharpie Gazelle -- if it's a girl.
I'm not too sure about that 8:20. He seems to be avoiding talking about the baby.
If asked he'll probably come out with some basic good PR bullshit like that, but I don't think he'll be giving too much up voluntarily. I don't think he wanted this baby at all.
I hope that's not true, 8:23. As much as I have come to despise Gerard and dislike Lindsey, I can't help but hope they both want this baby. It didn't ask to be born, after all. It would be terribly unfair of them to bring it into the world if it's not wanted.
That thought crossed my mind but i think that someone is instructing him not to say a word anymore.
8:23 I don't agree with you. If you marry someone, and stay married, babies usually come sometime in the future unless you both don't want them. Frank said he was excited about it, so I think he really wants it. Maybe he doesn't want the fangirls harassing his wife while she is pregnant.
MJ, someone probably is, or he probably thinks that it's drawing too much attention to him.
Most kids aren't wanted. They are an accidents they just become wanted.
Just cuz Frank said it, don't make it so.
Also, one year of marriage does not equal staying together. They've barely had time to get used to one another yet.
He could have been nervous not excited. And babies don't automatically come because you get married people just stop using birth control or don't think about it.
martha i am of the opinion that some children are pleasant surprises for people who are truly committed to each other.
you learn to accommodate for their arrival.
Just because a couple doesn't have babies right away (e.g., Frank & Jamia) doesn't mean they don't want them.
Most of the couples I know wait for about three years before they decide to have a child.
Some people come to want "accidental" babies. Others do not. It depends on the individuals.
you learn to accommodate for their arrival.
Because you don't have to many other choices. You either keep it or you don't.
8:42 in an ideal world i would say that is an ideal time to wait. gives you time to have some private time in the marriage.
but accidents happen, even with contraception. if you are active sexually there is always that risk.
We aren't talking about people like Frank and Jamia. They where together dating for a long time and knew they were going to get married to each other. They probably have a plan.
Gerard just happen to meet up with Lindsey again. I doubt that baby was plan I think they just didn't care to use any birth control.
I hope so too, 8:34. I don't want an innocent child to be affected anymore than anyone else here, but I'm just calling it as I see it.
babies usually come sometime in the future unless you both don't want them
Actually, it's usually the other way around - babies make a person's future.
I agree, Martha. Gerard and Lindsey won't have been together for even two years (counting the courtship, if you can call it that) when this baby comes.
The timing just seems off to me.
Gerard just happen to meet up with Lindsey again. I doubt that baby was plan I think they just didn't care to use any birth control.
Although, this brought up a point for me - most people wouldn't jump into marriage after a month of dating, and yet these two did. So, considering that, if Gerard is still in the same crisis that caused him to make the first dramatic life step, isn't it possible that they did actually plan this? (By plan I do not mean coordinating ovulation, but subconsciously forgetting the contraception)
Just a thought.
babies make a person's future.
in terms of how they structure your life for the next 20 years or so...yes.
however most people do get married because they want to create a family with the person they have committed to, sometime in the future.
i'm quite sure this is what he wanted.
i'm quite sure this is what he wanted.
I don't see how any of us can be "quite sure" of anything regarding what either of them wants. We can only speculate.
I don't think Gerard has every really been a guy who was that worried about birth control. IMO the only way that baby was planned was if he is trying to prove that he is in love or because he was feeling pressure from outsiders have a child because of his age.
It's true, we can only speculate. And I don't think anyone knows what Gerard wants because the dude doesn't always make much sense in the choices he makes.
Where Gerard is concerned, logic does not apply.
true...therefore i'm speculating this is what he wanted.
Yes, 8:56, although it is not always true, it commonly is.
Gerard seemed to really want to rush into the "settle down" phase of his life. The problem though, is the speed and lack of planning with which this has all appeared to be done. That is going to cause problems in those relationships in the future (with wife and child), regardless of how much it was wanted at the time.
I feel sorry for the kid is all.
I feel sorry for the kid is all.
Ditto.
why are you sorry? he thought she was good enough to be the mother of his child.
If Gerard and Lindsey make it at all, they'll be beating the odds. Rushed marriages like theirs usually don't last. Once the "honeymoon phase" wears off, a lot of couples realize they don't know each other at all.
Now, to top that off, they're going to have to adjust to being new parents as well. I hope everything turns out, but I sure wouldn't bet any money on it.
he thought she was good enough to be the mother of his child.
Once again, you don't know that. You don't even know whether or not he wanted children.
however most people do get married because they want to create a family with the person they have committed to, sometime in the future.
i'm quite sure this is what he wanted.
I was looking up why people still get married not to long ago and the number one answer was financial reasons. Not kids.
I don't think most people rally think about or plan having kids. I think they just say they want to get married and have kids because that is what they are expected to say or it will get people off their backs.
Out of all the married people I have met in my life that have kids only one planned for it. They wanted the kid so bad they got treatments so they could have it. Everyone else it was no birth control or it failed.
I know that I wasn't thinking about having a family when I got married. That was the last thing on my mind.
he thought she was good enough to be the mother of his child.
Once again, you don't know that. You don't even know whether or not he wanted children.
Then why marry them? Can't you just date?
Anonymous said...
why are you sorry? he thought she was good enough to be the mother of his child.
Do you think people get together just to make babies are something.
Then why marry them? Can't you just date?
Lots of people who don't want children get married.
I think their marriage was so spur of the moment and so unplanned, there is no way either of them could have been thinking about children.
Then why marry them? Can't you just date?
It has been said that when guy get out of a relationship where marriage is on the table they usually marry the next person they date. It isn't really a this will be the mother of my children thing. Anyway that doesn't even mean anything. Now it is alright to not only get divorced, but not get married and to have babies' mamas.
Do you think people get together just to make babies are something.
Hell no, but I find it strange to marry someone if you don't want to have kids with them. Cause sooner or later, especially when you get older, you could change your mind.
And a lot of people I know actually wanted them.
Just curious, are you American, 9:08?
The whole concept of marriage and family today is not what it used to be. I think it's pretty antiquated to think people get married just to have children.
Are the people you know very religious? Also do they come from big families? Because most of the reports I have been hearing about marriage is one it is on the decline and most people who do get married have no plans to have any children.
That is the it is heading for most of the industrialized countries. Non industrialized countries are having higher birth rates.
Also historical people didn't have children because they wanted to have children. They need them as labor on the farms. It is only really a recent thing this having children just because you want to.
Like someone mentioned earlier curious-anon, marriage is most commonly a financial decision. It is a governmental institution. Although having children would be a progressive step in a relationship, one does not necessarily mean there is intention for the other. Plenty of people get married that plan to never have kids, and don't.
I think it's pretty antiquated to think people get married just to have children.
i agree. but dig under the surface and you will find that people are still traditional at heart.
i agree. but dig under the surface and you will find that people are still traditional at heart.
You aren't American, are you?
i agree. but dig under the surface and you will find that people are still traditional at heart.
January 5, 2009 9:27 PM
if that were true you would not hear things like "thats just my baby's daddy." Also you wouldn't have a high divorce rate.
my name is Bjork. does that help you anon?
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I guess for poor ol' Steve, it must also mean that he is lacking friends since he's in a band "playing" an instrument.
January 5, 2009 6:41 PM"
BC again you missed the point. You just basically implied that he was a good musician. He is saying that to be GOOD, you need to have no friends. He is CELEBRATING not being a good musician. I take it that you were joking but you really don't understand what is going on because even your joke is not logical.
Well than Bjork that makes what you are saying even stranger to me. Because i hear that Iceland doesn't have all the hang ups about marriage and children that we have in American.
The reason I asked, 9:35, is that your notions of marriage seem very different from those of most Americans.
yeah, traditions and divorce are two different things.
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"This is the main problem; just because you play an instrument doesn't mean you should go onstage.
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Hey Kitty, maybe you should tell that to Lyn-Z."
And again you miss the point.
LynZ CAN'T play her instrument. By Kitty's reasoning, LynZ SHOULD be on stage.
BC..... it's so hard to explain things to you. Why don't you understand simple things?
You know what, 9:37, nobody cares. Go be petty somewhere else.
9.35 your ideas on marriage and children do seem like they come from a long ago era.
Anon, this is not the place, take it to your personal page.
I'm off to bed. Nice talking to you all.
Anon who is going after bc just stop it we are having a discussion about more important things.
yeah, traditions and divorce are two different things.
But traditional divorce was looked down upon and you got married, had kids and stayed married that way until death. Now those old traditional taboos about divorce are gone
Goodnight anon
i disagree with you martha. maybe i'm just different. i would never ever marry someone just for the hell of it, or cause i "liked" them.
and yeah, i am choosy when it comes to who i am going to have kids with, if i ever have them. i seen lots of my american friends go through divorce and it's damn ugly.
I don't think Americans view marriage as permanent anymore. Nor do they see it as the beginnings of a family.
People go on TV shows to find a someone to marry. If it doesn't work out, they'll just get divorced and marry someone else.
No, not everyone views marriage this way, but our society as a whole just doesn't take it as seriously as it once did.
How high do you think the divorce rate is among entertainers? As high as the national average is, it's probably still at least two or three times higher.
For a lot of people, especially actors, musicians, etc., marriage is just a form of serial monogamy.
I wouldn't marry someone for the hell of it either. In fact I don't want to marry or have kids.
If I had it to do over, I don't know if I would get married. It's just not all it's cracked up to be.
I know I'll never get married again.
I just don't see Gerard lasting in this marriage. He changes his mind about things the minute they don't work out the way he had hoped. Which is how I think most people see marriage now.
I've heard a lot of people say just that 9:56, especially ones who have been in a marriage for quite some time.
In fact I don't want to marry or have kids.
i used to think exactly like you martha, well about the kid part, anyway.
you can be serially monogamous without marriage.
Well, I was married for a very long time. And now I've been single for a little more than three years. I have to tell you, I'm much happier being single.
women are usually happier single, than married.
men are very demanding.
I don't plan on being alone I just don't want to be tied down.
A few years ago they gave tha top 3 reasons why men get married I only remember two but they were they need someone to take take care of them or the gf would leave if they didn't get married.
That's interesting 9:56. I only ask because I myself have always been someone who is opposed to marriage. Not monogamy, marriage.
I think the difference between myself and a man in a similar situation is that the man would have already remarried.
Men just don't like to be alone. I think that's the reason a lot of them get married. Including Gerard. I don't think children even entered his mind.
But I know a lot of women who are like that too, that can't be alone.
they need someone to take take care of them
i think that's probably the number 1 reason. i think men don't like being alone, not that anyone really does, however i think most women handle it better.
But I know a lot of women who are like that too, that can't be alone.
This is true. I suppose it depends on the person.
RW - Believe it or not, MSI does have their own separate fanbase. Most genuine MSI fans I've come across are either indifferent about, or despise MCR.
It might be that after generations of women being the ones that take care of the homes that it became no big deal to spends hours alone.
Once your husband has gone to work and the kids are off to school you are left in the house alone. To clean or do what ever.
Also there was a time when women were expected to leave their homes and families for the man they married. You would be stuck with people you don't know or alone.
10.21 I think Rw knows that she just didn't word it that way. Anyway I don't think msi fans are really losing to much in this MCR/msi union. Msi didn't have to change their reason for being.
In other news twitter got hacked.
Also Bob took down the buy this car thing.
^ So they ARE being told what they can and can't write.
Cu*t is alright but ads for cars on ebay is wrong.
Apparently, which is sad. But not surprising. At least not to me.
Maybe they breached some copyright or needed permission from the motor company, or something lame like that. Or maybe it's just not hardcore enough.
LOL.
But I bet you're right, it was probably an issue dealing with one of the other companies.
I think some fangirl went to hear parents and begged them to buy the car.
when they asked her why she said "bob told me to" or I am part of the mcrmy and was called to action."
The parents complained and it was taken down.
how could you take anyone from the mcrmy seriously? idolatry pure and simple.
they are a real worry.
her not hear
They can be down right scary sometimes.
I was listening to a podcast that was reviewing Twilight. Here are some quotes form the review that I think fit with Gerard and the fangirls way of thinking.
It's possible to throw out nearly every defining characteristic of a thing, and still cling to the idea that it's still that thing.
True love means finding a guy that realizes, not "thinks," that you are the most amazing person to ever live.
If there's lots of heartfelt gazing and snuggling, it's perfectly acceptable to have nearly no plot in your movie. And if you want to make oodles of money, don't entertain any ideas about quality or integrity; just whore yourself out to fourteen year-olds by creating a product they will venerate precisely because it venerates them, a self-perpetuating cycle of undeserved praise that will cause cash registers to ring like a chorus of angels.
Change some of the words in that last quote and it fits in very well with what fansheep think about love and music.
I know I'm jumping into the conversation a bit late regarding Gerard and Lynz, but I thought that the reason he got married was beause Mikey who was younger than him was now married, and he had that long break coming up and he didn't want to be alone. Plus there was the whole getting back at ELiza element to it. Also it would get the fangirls off his back. I think at that point he just wanted to be married, they do say that men marry whoever they're dating when they decide they're ready to marry. I don't think he thought about babies, I think he was thinking more about himself at the time and his future.
I agree with you, 1:55. I think Gerard had been touring with the band forever and then suddenly he realized that he was over 30, his brother was married, Frank and Ray were engaged (don't know about Bob, don't care) and he was all alone after ending a six year relationship and then breaking off a disastrous rebound.
He panicked and then fell hard for the very next girl he bumped into. Babies were probably the last thing on earth he was thinking about.
I see it happen all of the time. I can't tell you how many divorced or widowed men I've known who will marry the first warm body they bump into (as long as it's female) just to keep from being alone.
Maybe Gerard's ego is so big that because Mikey got married before him, he had to be the first one to have a baby? I can totally see him doing that.
Anonymous said...
Maybe Gerard's ego is so big that because Mikey got married before him, he had to be the first one to have a baby? I can totally see him doing that.
January 6, 2009 4:22 AM
I can really see him doing something that petty and stupid. I don't think the baby was planned but I think mentally, he was pleased with himself that he did it first instead of Mikey.
Anti-wrinkle creame for Mr Way - STAT!
He looks awful in that pic. And whats with the makeup?
It's "punk". LMAO.
I think they're trying to make him look like he's been beaten up.
I thought violence was never the answer?
He probably got his ass kicked my a 90 year old woman.
Woah!
Even worse.
I don't think we can blame the makeup for him looking like shit. Look at the dark bags around his eyes.
1:55,
GW did say in one interview that he got freaked out that Mikey got married before him. By the looks of it, it seems he's a bit competitive as far as his younger brother is concerned, like he wants to try or do things first before he does.
I think anyone would look that like too if they had to listen to Lynz all day and her constantly saying like and complaining about how no one sees what a great bass player she is.
I know I would anon. I'd probably be pulling my hair out ^_^
Bleeding Chaos said...
I know I would anon. I'd probably be pulling my hair out ^_^
January 6, 2009 2:19 PM
Maybe that's why Gerard's going a bit bald.
Why is LynZ called the pretty one in that MH interview? If you scroll down in the bottom picture she looks boyish. I think if you take away the makeup and cut her hair short she could easy pass for one. I think real woman scare Gerard.
Kerrang interview with Frank.
YOUR PERSONAL LIVES HAVE CHANGED A LOT AWAY FROM THE BAND - YOU’RE MARRIED NOW, AS ARE RAY AND MIKEY, WHILE GERARD IS HAVING A BABY. DOES THAT CHANGE THINGS?
“We’re still as close. The only thing now is that we’re spread out across the country. That kind of sucks. We can’t just drive to each others house and go get coffee anymore. But we talk everyday. I see Mikey and Ray a lot, and I’ve flown out to see Gerard and Bob. We’re around each other a lot, we’re just not in each others faces so much.”
Notice how Frank avoid the baby thing. I think Kerrang were hoping he'd spill info. At least he wasn't saying that "touring family circus" shit again.
Lol, probably anon.
Why is LynZ called the pretty one in that MH interview?
She's not ugly, no stunning either BUT she is thinner and sluttier than Kitty which in the superficial eyes of a male, makes here "the pretty one."
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