Someone sent me a great link in my inbox today that I want to share with you all. These are a lot of the excuses we hear from the MSICR camp and defenders...
The Art of Defending Racism
Saying or doing something racist will come naturally to you- but defending it? You’ll want to use one of the following tactics. ...
Tactical options:
A. It’s not that serious
1. We didn’t know better (and we never will)
2. You’re too sensitive
3. It’s not a big deal because it’s just (a movie, a song, a book, words, etc.)
4. Why should we care? (You don't matter anyway)
....
B. But!
...
7. We’re not discriminating AS MUCH (as other people/as we used to), isn’t that good?!? Give me a cookie.
...
C. Dismissal!
1. You’re oppressing me by making me be “PC”
2. You’re too stupid to be in this conversation and everything you say doesn’t matter
3. Racism is over now
4. If we don’t talk about it, it’ll magically go away
5. Under my definition- it’s not racist
6. You’re too angry/You’re being irrational
...
Denial of impact:
Denial of impact involves a person avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms their behavior have caused to themselves or others. By doing this, that person is able to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent that person from developing remorse or empathy for others.
This is a really old link but it's pretty good and it reminded me of some of what people say here in defense of these people.
I think the same thing goes for misogyny and homophobia presented in these lyrics, comments and lifestyles too.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1672 Newer› Newest»Silvia, I'm really sorry for what you're going through.
Silvia you are certainly not overweight. Please take care of yourself. The health repercussions in your middle age and old age could be avoided if you eat healthily and look after yourself. I know it isn't easy. Good luck.
Thank you again 1:48, could I just know your name? Just to thank you again for your attention
Thank you all. I'll do my best.
But, just so you know, I'm like this ALSO because of MCR.
You probably think it's stupid, but 5 years ago I wanted to suicide and I cut myself.
My best friend and the music helped me so much you can't imagine it.
I felt so incredibly good with Gerard's words, the ones about the girls, who have not to lose weight, exc.
I felt that someone understood me even if we didn't know each other personally, and it was amazing.
Then everything changed, they changed.
And Gerard said he started to lose weight to be accepted and loved. And he didn't say it was a wrong thing to do.
I just felt ridicolous for having believed them.
This is clearly not the main reason, it's just to let you understand something.
Silvia try to listen to the part of you that knows what is happening. The other part wants the control, it will never be satisfied no matter what weight you are, that is why you need to talk to someone, before this side is the only side you hear. You are a very brave girl.
Thank you again 1:48
Silvia, try to focus on yourself and not MCR. You are a brave person to admit this, even if only on a blog, it is a brave thing and a first step. Please really think about looking after yourself. Take care.
Thank you 2:25 I'm feelin better, you are all very caring
silvia, stop being an attention seeker. you know 68kg on your 170cm body is not fat so just fucking stop doing that.
attention seeker? right... I probably am... There are a lot of fat people so I just should shut up.
I shouldn't have written here.
You're a fucking callous idiot 2:34.
Gerard Way was/is an anorexic. Go find that article circa 2006 where he said that. And that's the cue for all fatties in mcr fandom to stop eating because their hero is an anorexic and therefore they should copy whatever he do.
Silvia don't let one stupid idiot and their comments get to you.
2.34, you are evil. Silvia please ignore that comment.
Whatever 1:48. You and silvia are behaving exactly like kids in those pro-ana sites. Attention seeking girl + her ass kisser. Same old drama.
thanks guys
anyway I'm not trying to copy him, I didn't even know he was. I've just noticed he has lost a lot of weight recently.
Whatever 1:48. You and silvia are behaving exactly like kids in those pro-ana sites. Attention seeking girl + her ass kisser. Same old drama.
You do now?
You're wrong anon.
In those blogs the others tries to encourage them losing their weight.
They tell you to hurt yourself to not eat.
Don't talk about things you don't know.
*try
Silvia ignore them. They don't know what they are talking about. People think problems with eating are related to attention seeking. They have no understanding of it. I don't care what this fool says.
I know this overweight girl who resorts to liposuction so she could have thighs like gerard.
Silvia there will always be ignorant people that say insensitive stupid things. Try not to react to them, and definitely don't listen to them.
I'm doing that 1:48 again thank you for the support.
In those blogs the others tries to encourage them losing their weight.
They tell you to hurt yourself to not eat.
Don't talk about things you don't know.
i know. did i say anything about you encouraging her not to eat? No, i didnt. I said you're kissing her ass - by feeding into what she wanted to hear.
BlahblahblahI'm fat.blahblahblah i want to kill myself BlahBlahblah.
Common stuff in mcr fandom. Nothing new.
No, i didnt. I said you're kissing her ass - by feeding into what she wanted to hear.
Obviously you don't read.
That anon is not telling me that I have to lose weight. And I personally think they all should have told me I have to lose it.
Because YES I think I'm fat I'M NOT FAKING IF I SAY I THINK I'M FAT. If you don't believe me I don't fucking care.
I just hope you'll never get in touch with these kind of things
2:55, have I said I wanted to kill myself because I'm fat?
You're ridicolous.
Silvia sometimes we get MSI fans here. They are the ones that tend to say the stupidest things, very much like the people they idolize. Ignore them.
And yes, blahblahblah. If someone you care of had this kind of problems, you'll probably wouldn't say "blahblahblah common things".
Thanks anon. How are you all guys doing tonight by the way?
Silvia there is no need to justify your feelings to them. Ignore them. They are ignorant. They would only understand if they or someone close to them started having these feelings, even then they might not, and say it was "attention seeking".
Obviously you don't read.
there's no point reading teenage girls ass-kissing one another.
Before I go:
And Gerard said he started to lose weight to be accepted and loved. And he didn't say it was a wrong thing to do.
I just felt ridicolous for having believed them.
Anyone who says these things usually has problems. He is not a role model, and I believe he still has problems, even though I understand his comments may have resonated with you Silvia.
Lovely to have spoken with you. Take care, and remember, the mean comments: ignore :)
I hate thin people getting depressed over slight weight gain.
I'm 168cm tall and weigh 80kg. A year ago I was 98 kg. I bet all you thin people will kill yourself if you're as heavy as me.
And Gerard said he started to lose weight to be accepted and loved. And he didn't say it was a wrong thing to do.
Welcome to real life.
there's no point reading teenage girls ass-kissing one another.
Yeh it's not as exciting as two "feminists" ass kissing each other
And yes, blahblahblah. If someone you care of had this kind of problems, you'll probably wouldn't say "blahblahblah common things".
Um yeah. Someone I care? Like, myself?
For fuck's sake, i did the same thing when i was a younger until i realized that attention seeking will not get you anywhere.
Grow the fuck up.
Silvia, please ignore the people who are being nasty to you. They're only doing it because they are miserable little people with nothing in their lives to make them happy so they get their kicks by trying to drag other people down with them.
I recognize the M.O. Calling people attention whores and the like when they're talking about a serious problem. I'm pretty sure where these people come.
Ignore them. They aren't worth a second thought.
You grow the fuck up 3:19. You're acting like a giant bully.
*where these people come from, I meant to say. :/
They're only doing it because they are miserable little people with nothing in their lives to make them happy so they get their kicks by trying to drag other people down with them.
Sometimes they're are just plain dumb and inconsiderate to other people.
Mean people suck. I'm talking to you, 3:19.
Mean people suck. I'm talking to you, 3:19.
This is true. They are ugly on the inside.
3:24 - yeah mean people suck and "nice people" like you swallow.
Sometimes they're are just plain dumb and inconsiderate to other people.
I think you got the nail on the head with this one.
Anonymous 3.19 said...
3:24 - yeah mean people suck and "nice people" like you swallow.
October 18, 2010 3:26 PM
Wow. Great comeback. Did you learn that on the playground?
Wow. Great comeback. Did you learn that on the playground?
Lol! I was just thinking that sounds like something my 9 year old brother would have said -- two years ago!
My comment was addressed to 3:19 regarding this: 3:24 - yeah mean people suck and "nice people" like you swallow.
Not your comment, 3:28. I was actually agreeing with you.
Sorry if that was confusing.
There was no 3:28. Idiot.
I meant 3:29.
I made a typo. Sue me.
Mean people suck, nice people swallow is a metaphor, kids. Funny how you guys were taking it in line of what a nine year old boy thought what it means.
Not so much of a grown up, eh?
You people are really good at feeding the trolls.
*grabs popcorn*
Yeh it's not as exciting as two "feminists" ass kissing each other
I lost my respect for Jessicka when I found out that all the feminist/anti-fatphobia blogs on her website are copy-pasted from somewhere else.
I know what it means, I've seen the t-shirt.
It was still not an appropriate response given the seriousness of the conversation here.
You had my sympathy until you tried to blame someone else for your condition Sylvia.
That I'm like this because of MCR rings so untrue and so false to what a person with an eating disorder would say.
You still have my sympathy but for other reasons now.
Seek help either way.
MCR, Y U make ur fans depressed?
...and now you turn things around and urge them to be happy, ditch a wardrobe full of black t-shirts and restock it with colorful ones?
MCR, Y U make ur fans depressed?
Nope, depressed people just connected with another depressed person and the way he expressed his fears and sadness.
ditch a wardrobe full of black t-shirts and restock it with colorful ones?
The black t-shirts were just a fashion trend. People in the grip of depression don't care or make that much effort about their hygiene or appearance. Why do you think Gerard has the same problem?
http://twitter.com/MSI
fuck that man disgusts me. the only thing worse is that she clearly enjoys the abuse. no one in their twisted little world has the right to call themselves pro female rights.
also. didnt gerard say he wanted to keep their involvement a secret as long as possible?
msi doesnt give a fuck about anyone but themselves. their just lucky their bassist is fucking mcr lead singer or they might get sued.
you know. the way they would if they were a real band working professionally with another band as opposed to a bunch of idiots playing rainbows and vampires in the desert.
give them a false sense of security then...
James Euringer is just one huge brown-nosing ass. Sooo pop, I mean, punk.
You haven't read what I said.
This is not happened because of MCR. It's only a piece of my disappointment.
The reasons why I began to eat less are different.
And I don't need you all to know everything but this disorder has nothing to do with MCR.
So next time please read more carefully.
Silvia, don't listen to these asshounds* who are giving you a hard time, okay? We do get a lot of trolls here.
Re: MCR, take back control from them. They don't deserve your attention and they're not important enough to warrant you feeling so bad over them anymore.
Gerard Way said he was anorexic? LMAO, what an ass; he has no idea what anorexia is. He's just a guy whose weight fluctuates like nearly everyone else. He doesn't stay in shape, or he loses some weight quickly, and I'd have to guess he's still a big cokehead, but who knows; that's speculation.
Anorexia, NO. But, way to trivialize the disease. He's such an ass.
*Asshounds! ^_^ Yeah, I just made that up, I kinda like it! ;D
also...
I
want 666!
^_^
MCR, Y U make ur fans depressed?
lol
Cause they got the powwa.
They using it to bring back fun & sunshine now.
My Chemical Romance Say 'Na Na Na' Video Is Their 'Biggest Moment'
By James Montgomery
'It's that moment where I can remember the sun shining on us ... and we're all running around firing ray guns,' MCR frontman Gerard Way says.
In their near-decade of existence, My Chemical Romance has had plenty of rather huge moments: touring with Green Day, premiering the first single from their Black Parade album some 70 stories above New York City and covering Bob Dylan for the "Watchmen" soundtrack, just to name a few.
But according to the band themselves, all of those achievements pale in comparison to their sprawling, spastic video for "Na Na Na". To hear them tell it, just making the clip was the biggest achievement of their entire career ... because it capped a long journey back from the brink.
"It was a really big moment for the band. It was a really special moment, because it was all of us together, acting, living it, being part of it, like living the actual dream that we had all talked about ... and then to physically be in it?" MCR frontman Gerard Way told MTV News. "It was, to me, the biggest moment ever, being in this band. It used to be when I walked on the set of [the] 'Black Parade' [video], but now it's that moment where I can remember the sun shining on us, and there's dirt everywhere and sand and we're all running around firing ray guns. That was the biggest moment to me."
And though, by his own estimation, Way spent "three ... or four years" toiling away on the basic concept of the "Na Na Na" video (and MCR's brand-new Killjoys reinvention), his greatest achievement as co-director was creating a visceral, hard-charging thrill ride for his bandmates. And years from now, that's what they'll remember most about the clip.
"It was incredible ... it was so much fun," guitarist Frank Iero laughed. "Any time you get a chance to drive really fast in the desert, shooting ray guns at dudes in Dracula masks ... are you kidding me?"
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1650207/20101018/my_chemical_romance.jhtml
I lost my respect for Jessicka when I found out that all the feminist/anti-fatphobia blogs on her website are copy-pasted from somewhere else.
I just looked. They aren't. She gives credit to the junk food science blog the one part is taken
from.
"While going through my strange transformation I started doing a lot of online research on topics related to weight loss, crash dieting and fat phobia. I even delved a little bit into 'pro-ana' communities on the web. But I digress. While doing research, a few friends and I have kept up with the Junk Food Science blog, which logically picks apart media bullshit, leaving behind scientific and factual information. Have a look and draw your own conclusions after reading the blog, but the gist is this: fat isn't killing us. Cancer, heart disease, and the like are mostly the result of your genes. Dieting IS damaging our bodies. Diets don't actually work. Here's the 411 on medical fat phobia: the "war on fat" is harmful and deadly, especially to women, in several ways:"
I think she speaks against fat phobia and that is truly a good thing. Nobody does that.
A mental issue is worst than a physical one. Just sayin.
Physical issues can lead to mental issues. Just sayin'.
Physical issues can lead to mental issues. Just sayin'.
A mental issue is worst than a physical one. Just sayin
Silvia,
Don't try saying that to someone with stage 4 cancer, an inoperable brain tumor, Alzheimers, Lupus, a paraplegic or anyone with a crippling or terminal physical disease.
Gerard certainly doesn't speak against fat phobia, being a former fat kid he should.
These days he speaks about nothing.
I don't mind Jessicka. It is Lynz I cannot stand.
Gerard Way stands for nothing. Big shock!
Did Gerard say they were "acting" in the NaNaNA video? That's just funny. All I saw were dudes walking/running around with blank faces. The Dracula masks had more expression on them.
Did Gerard say they were "acting" in the NaNaNA video?
Didn't you see that fierce punch Gerard gave that guy? He was so manly and dangerous. It looked so real! I could just picture Gerard in a bar fight here in Texas with some cowboy. HaHaHa!
I wanted to add that the scene where he walked around in that huge mouse head probably wasn't much of a stretch for him because...well...of his huge head.
Didn't you see that fierce punch Gerard gave that guy? He was so manly and dangerous. It looked so real!
Lol, of course he's so manly and dangerous. That punch doesnt even hit that guy's face! Prove
PS: That guy is Jimmy Urine btw.
LOL! It must of been the wind that knocked him out because that fist was a mile away!
I think she speaks against fat phobia and that is truly a good thing. Nobody does that.
She is using the wrong terminology. A phobia is extreme anxiety or an irrational fear over something. I agree that there is much misleading information and continuing discrimination and stereotyping towards people of a certain weight, though to constantly talk about "fat phobia" and using an extreme descriptive term, suggests to me her experience has made her very sensitive and still does. If people are truly "phobic" as she suggests, then it is an actual disorder similar to people who suffer from anorexia have an extreme and irrational fear of putting on weight and see themselves as "fat".
According to the National Cancer Institute, obesity contributes to cancer of the colon, breast (post-menstrual), endometrium, kidneys and esophagus. There have also been links to obesity and cancer of the pancreas and gall bladder.
Obesity also contributes to Type 2 Diabetes. Nearly 90 per cent of people who develop it are overweight.
I don't really have anything against Jessicka personally, but she needs to stop posting mis-information on her blogs.
While genetics does play a huge role in cancer and heart disease, diet and weight do as well.
She should be encouraging young women to have healthy lifestyles, which includes eating healthy foods and getting exercise. People don't have to be thin to be healthy, but obesity does, in fact, make people sick.
Bitching about "fat phobia" (ridiculous terminology, btw) is not doing anyone any good.
If people are truly "phobic" as she suggests, then it is an actual disorder similar to people who suffer from anorexia have an extreme and irrational fear of putting on weight and see themselves as "fat".
Not necessarily. I mean, after all 'homophobia' has the word 'phobia' in it, and that covers hatred of gay people.
Regarding her tweet, I thought she was talking about people who discriminate against people who are overweight/obese, not people who have eating disorders.
I've been away from the MCR fandom and this place for some time now because I'm so over them and their crap. I came here because I just saw the video for that new song of theirs and I wanted to ask how long Gerard has been wearing Rihanna's hair. He looks like a total douchebag, by the way.
Not necessarily. I mean, after all 'homophobia' has the word 'phobia' in it, and that covers hatred of gay people.
Another word that implies the discrimination is irrationally fear based and leaves no room to question how negative belief systems are formed.
I wanted to ask how long Gerard has been wearing Rihanna's hair.
Give it a few months. Soon he'll be back to black and dissing the red hair.
RE: Jessicka.
She is talking about people who discriminate against people who are overweight/obese, not people who have eating disorders. Clearly.
The terminology is correct as there is an entire movement based upon said term. All you have to do is google it.
Also "Fat Attitudes: A Celebration of Large Women" !
She does encourage young women to have healthy lifestyles. But in doing so she also does not berate those who are already overweight, she encourages them.
@sharpest_rose I have never been a fataphobe. I am happy to say losing weight didn't change my values or views. :) #fatliberation Sun Oct 17 16:48:51 2010 via web in reply to sharpest_rose
@jeffmarygrigg Getting positive is key. Get to where you are comfortable weight wise. Don't conform to magazine beauty standards set by men. Sun Oct 17 16:46:39 2010 via web in reply to jeffmarygrigg
@HRileyJ Plenty. I've been called too fat. Too thin. You can't win. Your opinion about yourself is the one that matters. #fatliberation Sun Oct 17 16:43:10 2010 via web in reply to HRileyJ
"I love it when fataphobes gain weight. It might be the only way they understand fat acceptance & expand their ideas about what is beautiful."
I really don't see a problem with Jessicka. At least she is willing to speak out about what she believes in. I have no idea why she hangs out with the Zoid but we've all made bad friendship choices. I know I have.
fat phobics connotation is much like the term 'homophobia'.
Both have subjective cultural and/or emotional colorations in addition to the explicit or denotative meaning of any specific word or phrase in a language, i.e. emotional association with a word.
She is using it correctly.
BURBANK, CA--(Marketwire - October 19, 2010) - "Planetary (GO!)," a track off My Chemical Romance's upcoming new album Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys, will be featured as the lead song in the opening cinematic of Sony Playstation's Gran Turismo® 5 video game, available exclusively on Playstation® 3 this holiday.
"Gran Turismo is one of the most beloved videogame franchises of all time, with fans across the globe," says My Chemical Romance's lead singer Gerard Way. "Having a song featured as the lead intro to GT5 allows us to reach fans beyond radio and online and into a totally different platform. We are thrilled that our song is going to be the first thing you hear when you boot up the game."
My Chemical Romance are currently making waves at Alternative radio with their new single "Na Na Na (Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na)," off Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys, which will be released by Reprise Records on November 22nd, 2010. The album was produced by new Warner Bros. Records Chairman Rob Cavallo, who produced MCR's platinum-selling album The Black Parade as well as albums by Dave Matthews Band, Jawbreaker, and The Goo Goo Dolls, among many others.
For more on My Chemical Romance, including album trailer, please visit www.mychemicalromance.com
"I love it when fataphobes gain weight. It might be the only way they understand fat acceptance & expand their ideas about what is beautiful."
You are saying this is a positive statement? It's tantamount to saying that you love it when a "homophobe" has a child who is gay. In that case, the child would be subjected to disapproval and lack of love and acceptance by its parents, not a "EUREKA!" moment where said parent suddenly accepts all gays and renounces his earlier homophobic tendencies.
When "fataphobes" gain weight, does she really think they automatically change their attitudes about weight? Because I seriously doubt that's the case. Someone who hates or fears fat people would then only grow to hate him/herself. How would that possibly do society any good>
Her comment sounds like a sick desire for revenge to me.
Her comment sounds like a sick desire for revenge to me.
This. She comes off like someone who is still bitter about the experiences she had when she was overweight. I would respect her more if she hadn't made that comment.
Her comment sounds like a sick desire for revenge to me.
????
Not really. When somebody can walk a mile is somebody else's shoes maybe then can have more of understanding about how difficult things can be.
Plus you disregard all the positive things she is saying to overweight young women. It seems like to me that she truly cares to build up these girl's self esteem. Which no matter how you twist it is not a bad thing.
10:38 AM
Clearly she's not perfect. At least she is being honest and not candy coating the issue. I think all the positive reinforcement she gives to young over weight women trumps one comment, in my opinion.
Plus she is huge supporter of Noh8. It still bothers me that nobody in MCR, MSI or the zoid have made a single tweet supporting that cause? I'm sure a large section of both band's fan bases are LGBT.
truly sickening.
According to Eliza's Twitter she sat in the front row at the Scream Awards, next to the Twilight cast. How did that happen? When did Eliza become a celeb?
I have no idea why she hangs out with the Zoid but we've all made bad friendship choices. I know I have.
I have no idea why you think who she hangs out with and calls friend is any or your business.
It sounds to me like she is trying to do some good by encouraging girls to love themselves and respect their bodies no matter their size.
So, I wonder what Jessicka thought of Lindsey's remark in that magazine interview about the people who dislike her sitting at home eating 'crisps'? Or about the video where Lindsey talks about fat board kids and how much she hates them?
Clearly she's not perfect. At least she is being honest and not candy coating the issue. I think all the positive reinforcement she gives to young over weight women trumps one comment, in my opinion.
I don't know. I would be more likely to respect your opinion if you admitted that the 'one comment' was a misstep.
Lindsey talked about being a "fat kid" in high school like that was a bad thing. I think that Lindsey might just be one of those "fatphobic" people herself. And she'll never be able to explain away the "Board Kids" video.
Maybe Jessicka should start preaching to her friends instead of preaching to the rest of the world on her blog?
Also, is it a coincidence that Gerard, whose weight has always fluctuated all over the place, has been consistently thinner (to the point of looking emaciated sometimes) ever since he married Lindsey?
Jessicka doesn't control what comes our of her friends mouths, does she? But I've never understood why she hangs out with LynZ in the first place.
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I don't know. I would be more likely to respect your opinion if you admitted that the 'one comment' was a misstep.
You don't need to respect my opinion. I truly didn't think it was a misstep. It had a positive message about people learning that beauty comes in all shapes and sizes.
Like I said before I think her friendship with the Zoid is more of a misstep then anything she's said on twitter.
"When "fataphobes" gain weight, does she really think they automatically change their attitudes about weight?"
I don't think that is what she was saying at all. I think she is saying it might be easier to have empathy and try to benefit from the experience of being over weight if you have been thinner prior. Never judge a person until you have walked a mile in their shoes? Considering she has been on both sides of the scale, I think she has right to make such comments.
11:50 AM
On a positive, let's hope Jessicka teaches Lynz a thing or too for the benefit of her daughter.
It sounds to me like she is trying to do some good by encouraging girls to love themselves and respect their bodies no matter their size.
THIS
I think she is saying it might be easier to have empathy and try to benefit from the experience of being over weight if you have been thinner prior. Never judge a person until you have walked a mile in their shoes?
With this comment?
"I love it when fataphobes gain weight. It might be the only way they understand fat acceptance & expand their ideas about what is beautiful."
Really? She loves it when people become the thing they hate/fear because she thinks that will teach them a lesson.
Um. Okay.
I think she is saying it might be easier to have empathy and try to benefit from the experience of being over weight if you have been thinner prior. Never judge a person until you have walked a mile in their shoes?
With this comment?
"I love it when fataphobes gain weight. It might be the only way they understand fat acceptance & expand their ideas about what is beautiful."
Really? She loves it when people become the thing they hate/fear because she thinks that will teach them a lesson.
Um. Okay.
"I love it when fataphobes gain weight. It might be the only way they understand fat acceptance & expand their ideas about what is beautiful.
When you isolate the first sentence it sounds completely rude. But when you read the entire tweet I get what she is saying. She ends it with a positive message. Why are we dissecting this? Do any of us truly care? At least she sends some sort of a positive message, unlike her cohorts.
fin.
How is it sending a positive message?
Some people say things to give themselves an image. You have to look beyond what they say and see how they really support their cause to make a real impact.
It sounds to me like she is trying to do some good by encouraging girls to love themselves and respect their bodies no matter their size.
THIS
Is it true she lost a lot of weight herself? I'm curious because she talks of self acceptance, yet I'm wondering if she felt compelled to change herself?
@jeffmarygrigg Getting positive is key. Get to where you are comfortable weight wise. Don't conform to magazine beauty standards set by men. Sun Oct 17 16:46:39 2010 via web in reply to jeffmarygrigg
Don't follow these "magazine beauty standards" even though you follow Vogue London on twitter.
According to Eliza's Twitter she sat in the front row at the Scream Awards, next to the Twilight cast. How did that happen? When did Eliza become a celeb?
I watched that and you did get to see her. I think if you dressed up you could win a spot to sit with a celebrity. She went as tank girl.
Vogue London on twitter.
I agree with most of what is being said BUT Vouge London covers fine art, fine dining, Nobel Prize-winning poets, cutting edge photography, French culture, particularly cuisine, very unlike it's American counterpart. To say her encouraging statement is no longer valid because she follows Vouge London on twitter is just stupid.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/note.php?note_id=52007550732
Interesting read. Make your own opinions.
vogue london
Its emphasis is on fashion and beauty. It may cover other topics of interest in relation to culture, though to suggest a person follows this magazine solely for those articles is stupid. Vogue is considered a fashion bible. Carine Roitfeld's French Vogue is more cutting edge with photography etc.
Carine Roitfeld's French Vogue is more cutting edge with photography etc.
I think that is matter of opinion.
And also can't somebody be interested in "vogue" fashion and not be consumed or be a follower of it's anorexic stereotypes?
I want to make an admission since I have posting here awhile now. I truly like Jessicka Addams as an artis. I am even a member of the facebook page I posted above.
I cannot for the life of me understand why the hell she associates with the Zoid or Gerard?
I used to be a MCR fan, never an MSI fan. I was pointed in the direction of this blog because I'm sick of the likes of Gerard Way making irrelevant trash that the tween masses consider ground breaking. Besides disagreeing about J.A. I've enjoyed my stay. Even thinking of getting a handle.
Am I banned now? lol
Just saw Bandit's recent pic. My, she's beautiful.
Remember when some of you wrote that there might be "something wrong about her" - well, you're wrong! Ha!
Just saw Bandit's recent pic. My, she's beautiful.
Cute kid, but I wouldn't say beautiful. Not even.
She is very cute!
i suspect she will be cuter when she can dress herself.
and when she has hair. shouldnt she have hair at her age?
Bandit is pretty. Can't really tell with the sunglasses, but she looks like her mom and dad. I don't think the majority of people here thought something was wrong with the baby. I keep my comments about MCR and NOT their kids. Children are innocent and i don't think they should be brought up anywhere in a negative way.
Most kids do have quite a bit of hair by the time they turn one, but then I've seen some who are still quite bald at that age. She's what, 17 months or so? Maybe it's just really patchy and that's why they always cover it up?
I keep my comments about MCR and NOT their kids. Children are innocent and i don't think they should be brought up anywhere in a negative way.
Agreed. I may not be able to stand her parents (esp. the dad), but I would never say anything bad or wish anything bad for their child. I hope she's happy and healthy and manages to cope with the ridiculous name her parents saddled her with.
My daughter had very patchy hair at one year, but by the time she was two she had a full head of it. Now she has the most gorgeous hair you can imagine.
I think some people here worried about Bandit because Lindsey seemed high as a kite in that Rock Sound interview that was done right around the time she got pregnant. It was genuine concern for the child.
I hope you are right and there is nothing wrong with her. Developmental delays often don't have physical characteristics that show in pictures. Although if she had FAS, it would most likely show in her eyes, which you can't see.
http://twitpic.com/2zdval
:/ I don't know...You can't really tell. Cute? Sure. Beautiful? Ehhh. Gerard and Lindsey are not that good looking, well in my opinion.
at least she's cuter than average white toddler.
I keep my comments about MCR and NOT their kids. Children are innocent and i don't think they should be brought up anywhere in a negative way.
I absolutely agree 100% with you Lynn.
I personally think she should not even be posting pictures of her daughter and respect her privacy.
Am I banned now? lol
Of course not!
I wonder what Getard thinks about his wife posting pictures of his kid. Yeah, Bandit is her child too but didn't he say they were 'oh so private'?
My ass.
i think hes the one taking it. also is anyone else disturbed by how tight shes holding her daughters leg?
i hate parents that use physical roughness to get their kid to do things.
That's a lot of bullshit speculation, 9:56PM. She's holding her leg to take the picture. I don't see anything wrong with that, or the kid. She's probably wearing the bandana to look like a Killjoy. I personally think the sunglasses are to keep a bit of privacy for the kid. These rude comments about her are really too far. Yes she is a celeb kid, and yes the parent(s) are posting pics of her. But have some fucking heart. Watch what you say or imply. She's just a kid and none of us know shit about her or what really goes on in her home. There are enough people around them to put a stop to anything negative happening. And none of you should speculate about a fucking kid, unless there was real evidence that something bad was happening with her. Reaching a fucking low point, you guys. Stick to the parents, there's plenty there for you to run in the gutter.
I personally think the sunglasses are to keep a bit of privacy for the kid.
Privacy is not posting pictures of your child.
9:56, 10:03 has a point. All the speculation should not involve their child, leave her alone, even if your comment did not have a bad intention.
sorry. it wasnt meant as an insult to the child. just an observation on the mothers grip with a personal opinion on the subject matter.
she looks like a happy kid. despite the speculation, im sure gerard and lynz are doing a good job raising her.
10:14, considering the outfit she is wearing in the photo, if she were to be standing with a bunch of other children her age (say at a preschool or a park) without the bandana and sunglasses -would you be able to pick her out amongst them all? I highly doubt it. If we don't get any news or pictures of her, we speculate that something is wrong or they are not interested in or don't love her. If we do get news or pictures, well, we get a lot of the crap comments in here this evening. What's a rock star to do? Not have any children? Why begrudge them the chance to become better people through being parents. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, until I see proof to do otherwise. And if that happens, I won't just complain about it on a blog. I'll do my best to contact someone to help the child.
I understand 10:34. Even though I still consider her mother a total idiot and I won't even say what I think of her father, I believe the child is innocent and should not be discussed.
10:34, do you have siblings? Cousins? Do you ever babysit for a friend or relative, a neighbor? Would you like a stranger implying something monstrous about you and how you treat those children? And for no apparent reason than you are with them, or have a picture of yourself with the child? A little perspective, please. At least when it comes to children. As Lynn said, they are innocent. Shit on the parents, but watch what you infer from innocent actions as well. There's a world of hell for any parent wrongfully accused. And an even worse hell possible for a child that is taken away. I wouldn't wish it on any person, even those I greatly dislike. I appreciate your comment back, but be careful when kids are involved. It's not funny, harmless jabbing or deserving of (seemingly) safe & caring parents and their children, nor should it be.
Frank may be an ass in many other ways but I have more respect for him because he and his wife have refrained from releasing any personal details about his children. I hope he continues to do that.
Thank you 12:44/9:26 ect. I've worked with kids for a long time. I get touchy about it. Sorry to rant at everyone. And I do understand, there has been a lot of deserving insults throw at both parents. I just want the kid left out of it. She seems to be doing great to me. There are signs to look for. That kid is happy and healthy as far as I can see. That's all anyone should ask for and appreciate. Have a good night.
I've seen tons of pics of Metallica's children. No one's accused them of exploiting them. What makes G/L Way so different with what they've done with Bandit?
Bandit is beautiful like every other little child.
She's really cute. The noisy thing here, is that her parents don't protect her privacy but use her as publicity.
That's what makes me really sad for her.
Her parents are wankers. I hope she has better influences in her extended family.
I'm so jealous I could scream.
That picture of Bandit is too cute for words. Her little button nose and smile is adorable. She is beautiful.
She looks like Gerard.
I don't see why Lyndsey should be any different from any other proud mother.
Why shouldn't show pictures of her daughter?
Is it using or exploiting your child when any other celebrity parent poses with their children for the cover of magazine of puts one of their children in their movie?
Or when celebrity designers open their own clothing lines and use their babies / children as models?
Jennifer Lopez has just appeared in an international campaign with her twin toddlers to raise money for Cancer. Is that exploiting her children?
Lyndsey hasn't flooded her twitter with pictures of Bandit. She's posted how many pictures of her? 3 or 4 in a year and half.
I think she favors the Way side of the family too. From what I can see.
I think people are bit paranoid about kids. The vast majority of people are normal, and so what if she wants to show a picture. SO FUCKING WHAT?
If anything, I think the Ways have been pretty stingy with pictures of Bandit. Obviously the fangirls have been dying to see pictures of her and they have resisted the pressure to post them all over the place like some celebs do. I can't stand her douchewad parents, but I do at least respect their decision to keep pictures of her at a minimum.
Of course, they weren't offered tons of money to put her on the cover of People or some other celebrity rag, so we don't know how they would have reacted to that. Let's face it, mainstream media doesn't even know who the Ways are.
You all used to whine about Eliza's attention seeking, that dumbass is no different.
I think Bandit is really cute and looks adorable in that picture. She's obviously a healthy and happy baby.
But I have to say this, if I were Gerard Way and I knew what types of fans I had-the crazy, fanatical type, I would never post a picture of my child on the internet. By doing so sparks interest in the baby. If Bandit stays out of sight then she stays out of mind. I applaud Frank for not posting pictures of his girls. He's clearly a lot smarter then Way.
In MCR's case, where so many of their fans get the idea that they are "friends" with the band members, I think it's an excellent idea for them to refrain from posting pictures of their kids.
I don't so much think they have a problem with young fans, but some of the middle age women who follow them can be scary. Stalker types who have delusional "relationships" with band members could be a serious threat to their children.
Lol @some kid who posted on chemicalromance that she's been calling around to various venues in the UK and they aren't allowing Rayguns or any other kind of toy/prop gun into the upcoming MCR shows.
So many kids are going to show up with them and either have them confiscated at the door or take them back to their cars -- which isn't going to be an option for kids who queue for hours.
I saw this coming a mile away.
MCR should post on the official website and their twitter that toy rayguns, props and toy weapons of any kind will not be allowed in venues under any circumstance. In big bold print.
Kids can naive and have a hard time understanding that security and police can't always differentiate toy weapons from real weapons in dark, crowded venues.
It would be a tragedy if some kid got a toy gun into one of those venues and security mistook it for a real weapon when that kid held it up in the air. Or if someone in the crowd yelled he's got a gun.
They must be made to understand that it's a serious safety issue for the band and for all people in attendance of the concerts.
^ kids can be naive
Thank you for not saying that rudely, 7:31 PM. They are just kids. Some things are simply harmless to them. That's part of being a kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gECKIvln7Cc
Snorefest
Thank you for not saying that rudely, 7:31 PM. They are just kids. Some things are simply harmless to them. That's part of being a kid.
This is true, although some of the people I know who have talked about their Killjoys costumes (including a gun) have been in their 30's and should really know better.
I've also seen some people say they are going to try and hide their Rayguns when they go into the venue. I hope this doesn't happen, because I've been to some venues where the security can be over-zealous and people can sometimes be seriously hurt.
Snorefest
Yeah, I agree. It sounds pretty generic.
Also, wtf with the alter ego crap again? Mad Gear and Missile kid? LOL! If somebody told me they were going to do something that lame, I would have thought they were making it up.
Thank you for not saying that rudely, 7:31 PM. .
You're welcome.
"If there's any rebellion in the record, it's a rebellion against ourselves and kind of against - definitely against being assimilated into modern rock culture and cutting your hair and looking respectable and getting into your thirties and like - all right, we're gonna be this kind of rock band, because that's what people are grooming us to be. It's a rebellion against that very thing, and so there's no rebellion against the corporation, though . . . It's wholly fighting against the idea of the corporate cleanup. And what better way, like, who's actually kind of more suited to do or say that than a band that's actually within a corporate system?"
-- Gerard Way
Okay, how can you be rebelling against "corporate cleanup" and not against the "corporation"? If he really wants to "rebel" he should rebel against Warner pushing a $70.00 Box Set on kids who don't have that money to spend. Or maybe they should rebel against MTV who aren't about either art or music, but about pushing stupid dumbed-down Reality TV on the masses? But instead, Warner is probably paying MTV to let their resident fanboy JMont write something about them every two days.
Gerard Way and his band of sellouts: fighting for Art. Yeah. Right.
He's more full of shit than ever.
I'm a business major, and I don't think "corporate cleanup" means what Gerard thinks it means.
So full of shit is right. I bet it took them longer to come up with this spiel to try and sell this record than it did to come up with the actual music.
He and the rest of that band need to have the words "Corporate Drone" stamped across their idiotic foreheads.
That interview snippet is not from MTV or JMont.
It's from an interview with Coup De Main mag.
You can read parts 1 and 2 at the CDM website. 30 more parts are on the way.
http://www.coupdemainmagazine.com/music
But instead, Warner is probably paying MTV to let their resident fanboy JMont write something about them every two days
Careful 8:04. You're treading into illegal territory. Accusing a company as big as Warner of pay offs.
Tsk tsk.
The business major @8:36 should be able to explain to 8:04 how and why pay offs are illegal.
They might be able to explain libel too.
Lol. I love when people come here talking about legal action against a blog like this.
Speculation =/= libel.
That interview snippet is not from MTV or JMont.
It's from an interview with Coup De Main mag.
I neither said nor implied that the interview snippet was from MTV.
You people just can't stand the fact that MTV loves MCR. It's the most anticipated album of the year according to an MTV poll - better than Kanye West, Taylor Swift, Kings of Leon and others. Why wouldn't they write about it. It's going to break sales records when it comes out and none of you can stand that.
Oh I know I choose all of my music based on MTV's recommendations.
Not.
I'm talking about a poll, stupid. The kind where fans pick.
I haven't really seen the NaNaNa video on Kerrang or any other major rock channels much. It really only appeals to young kids. I'm actually put off by the ray gun shit.
Are you put off by video games too?
I would rather have youngsters and teenagers running around with rayguns in the great outdoors than sitting indoors staring at a screen. I would rather be doing that too.
It's healthier than sitting on your ass.
I would rather have youngsters and teenagers running around with rayguns in the great outdoors than sitting indoors staring at a screen. I would rather be doing that too.
Oh yeah. I'm so sure that MCR fans are outside running around playing shoot-out with their rayguns right now.
*rolls eyes*
I'm talking about a poll, stupid. The kind where fans pick.
Okay, sure, Sweetie. You go right ahead and believe your little poll that makes you think that MCR is going to outsell Taylor Swift and all those other artists (most of whom are assured of outselling MCR). Especially given that both Na Na Na and that other screechy song (I can't remember the name) have already fallen off iTunes charts.
"but some of the middle age women who follow them can be scary. Stalker types who have delusional "relationships" with band members
"
Is Toujours going to quit another job to follow MCR all over the country on this tour like she did 2 years ago?
Wonder if she ever repaid all the people she got to buy her concert and bus tickets last time.
Somebody quit their job to follow MCR around the country? Which country? Are you talking about crazy Natalie? She followed them all over Europe didn't she? Until she got banned. I wonder if she's still banned.
It's wholly fighting against the idea of the corporate cleanup. And what better way, like, who's actually kind of more suited to do or say that than a band that's actually within a corporate system?"
*rolls eyes*
I get the impression he is trying to get back at Eliza again with the things he said in the BBC interview they did today. He is an emotional 2 year old. And he married a perfect match.
Oooh, Gerard. You're such a rebel. Except you're really, really not.
And must he continuously, in nearly every damn interview he does, refer to fucking ART SKEWL?
Yeah, Gerard. You went to art school. We know that. We've known that for years now. So shut the fuck up about it already.
GW on LW "She brought out the best things in me. She helped me rediscover who i was and made me sort of happy to do this "
Best things like telling your fans to go fuck themselves (like the wife) calling them c's on twitter and other delightful things, that bring out the real him or the he that he wants to be, which is Jimmy Urine the second.
Or a dirtbag.
All these years he knew Lindsey was "the one" even while engaged to Eliza.
All these years he knew Lindsey was "the one" even while engaged to Eliza.
Did he really say that? Does that include all those years he was in a relationship/almost a marriage?
I wonder if he's met the next "always the one" yet?
Mike Pedicone on drums! :))))))))
Who is Mike Pedicone? And shouldn't someone warn him? Or at least have him watch This Is Spinal Tap?
Mike Pedicone was the drummer for The Bled until he left to be touring drummer for Gavin Rossdale.
Don't anybody needs to warn him of anything he hasn't already seen and experienced.
Off topic:
Every time somebody mentions Gavin Rossdale I think of when he played that vampire rawkstah named Dante on Criminal Minds (kinda like LeStat, except he wasn't a real vampire) and he had some crazy groupie who was killing people for publicity. LMFAO.
He's hot, but he can't act for shit. And for some reason I always forget that he's British.
Does that include all those years he was in a relationship/almost a marriage?
He was almost admitting in that interview that Lindsey was the infamous "Kat".
He was almost admitting in that interview that Lindsey was the infamous "Kat".
LOL! He must not have loved her very much to have cheated on her with Eliza!
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