Oh my God, I had a whole post typed out and Blogger crashed and deleted it without saving a draft.
I forgot most of what I wrote so I have to start over.
I notice some of you talking about Laura Slessinger and her use of the N- Bomb recently. I saw some of the fall-out from that in the news too. And it made me think about what gets said to a lot of you sometimes.
We see a lot of MSICR fans saying that MSICR have the first amendment right to use whatever language they want and we have no right to stop them. I think once even Lyn-Z made a comment about "Thank God for the first amendment" when talking about her band's lyrics.
But I have always thought, no one is TRYING to take away their right to use hate speech. We have the right to our opinion too when it comes to lyrics that are racist, homophobic and misogynist.
This article about Laura Slessinger and the first amendment said a lot of what needs to be said here too.
These are the parts I wanted to quote.
• The First Amendment protects us from the government, and not from other Americans who disagree with what we have to say. “Congress shall make no law” — the first five words of the First Amendment — say it all: No government body can limit our rights to speak out. In this case, there’s no government action, just public outrage and pressure.
• Boycotts are also protected by the First Amendment. Dr. Laura complains about being “bullied” by those who might pressure her radio affiliates or advertisers, but boycotts are a time-honored use of the First Amendment to address perceived wrongs and have played a role in virtually every social movement in American history.
But the whole article is really good.
MSICR are allowed to use hate speech in their lyrics. MSICR fans are allowed to listen to those lyrics and interpret them any way they want. They can think they are about something else, if they want to. You interpret things however it makes sense to you.
YOU are also allowed to hate those lyrics, take them at face value (which the bands themselves always say), and to boycott them if you want..... forever if that's what you want.
There will always be arguments as long as there are lyrics, tweets, concerts and interviews with that kind of speech. There will be disagreements no matter what. But disagreeing is NOT the same thing as squashing someone else's rights.
I really thought that article said it better than I could have.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 2260 Newer› Newest»I thought it was very sweet of Jared Leto to take time from partying after the VMA's to tweet Gerard Way a special thank you and tell him that his good luck wishes worked.
ViceVersa. I thought it was very sweet of Gerard Way to tweet special good luck to Jared Leto.
Dstarpro, you need to go for a shower, a shit, and a shave. Then get some sleep. Trolling this blog must be taking its toll on your eyebags.
What's she need to shave? o_O
Maybe Party Poison is Jared. He did have the same color mohawk as poison's background and recently said that the c word was his fav curse word.
Jared is also going to sing bad romance at Lindsey's art show.
It's an expression, 5.52.
Party Poison: J. Anniston's corpse powers my fucking rebreather- her actual bones power my zone-suit, bitch-faces.
Dr Death Defying: Got clipped by @newsagogo, every agent you send is gonna end up dusted! Sand is about to go all red-like, thrill killers.
Gerard Way: How much can you boys and boys and girls blow this up- or do we have to lip-sync?http://youtu.be/ixAq6dWnh1I
So 6:17, are you saying Party poison could be GW?
I thought PP was the one calling the fan a 'c' then deleted the post.
Hypocrisy will nail your ass evrytime.
That's not dstarpro, it's Mya. Kapunua said that line on Mayo's once and Mya would never let it go, EVER. I remember her repeating that a lot and she admitted to anoning.
I actually called Mya out last night and here she is answering.
I know what I said would get her going.
I hope you're wrong 6:17.
Am I the only one who saw the stills of JGL as Hesher and thought "BERT MCCRACKEN!"?
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ViceVersa. I thought it was very sweet of Gerard Way to tweet special good luck to Jared Leto.
Or a good way for Gerard to try and get his name out there, seeing as how Jared has more than twice the number of followers on twitter that Gerard has.
Kind of reminds me of when Gerard sucked up to Bert McCracken when The Used was way bigger than MCR was. I think coattail riding is just a way of life with MCR.
I think coattail riding is just a way of life with MCR.
And their wives.
j leto seems very sweet to everyone on his twitter. it could very well all be an act, but at least he's not pissing off his fans with it. he seems the sort of celebrity that twitter was made for.
this last bit of mystery tweeting notwithstanding, i think twitter has done mcr more harm than good because it's revealed them all to be either kind of boring and not all that bright (mikey, ray), or a bunch of douchenozzles (gerard, frank, bob).
Ha! Coattail riding! That explains a lot about SC! Or at least about those who are running it for Frank. Or GoGo the monkey boy or whatever the name is he is going by now.
Wives, friends, other bands, it is all coattails.
Lol @MCR fans getting into arguments now over whether or not all the cryptic shit revolving around the new record is annoying or not.
Some fans are complaining about it while others are telling them to stfu. Same old. Same old. Only there aren't as many fans to run off this time.
LOL! Now they are hitting up Worm.
tweet me about some lame frerard crap and im blockin you
.@HouseOfWolves_ yeah its retarded
.@cyanidexromance still not understanding why those were the best tweets ever?? help me out with that
.@LxTonks trust me im not googling that gay shit
Did anyone see that video that was posted on youtube? I had to laugh because people were commenting on who it could be and one said the person walked and had hips like a lady. I think it was Gerard. He had that hunchback going on.
I laughed my ass off at that video. Funny thing is, as huge as that mouse's head is, it's not all that much bigger than Gerard's.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if they dress up in gigantic fake heads for the next tour instead of lame marching band uniforms? Then Gerard could get oxygen underneath the big mouse head without people knowing it and maybe then he wouldn't be so out of breath all the time.
Or maybe he could lip sync and the fangirls wouldn't be able to tell.
In a post-apocalyptic world, Gerard and the rest of those cupcakes from MCR would last all of about 10 minutes.
The very idea of them riding Trans-Ams and motorcycles through the desert, talking about "dusting" people is just priceless. LMFAO. They'd all be crying for their mommies. Or they'd wind up in a basement somewhere waiting to get their legs eaten like those poor fuckers from The Road.
Funny thing is, as huge as that mouse's head is, it's not all that much bigger than Gerard's.
LOL! Big head and skinny legs! I would know him anywhere!
Then Gerard could get oxygen underneath the big mouse head without people knowing it and maybe then he wouldn't be so out of breath all the time.
I seriously died laughing at that one! I'm surprised that we didn't see smoke coming out of that mouse head in that video! Then we would know for sure that it was him.
The very idea of them riding Trans-Ams and motorcycles through the desert, talking about "dusting" people is just priceless.
I know. Maybe Gerard is going to be the "ladyboy" that wears rollerskates.
Did you see those little guns in those holsters? LOL!
YOu people are cruel. Castrating bitches.
They're cruel assholes thinking they can tell their fans to go fuck themselves and calling them c****.
What did all of you think of Lady Gaga's meat dress at the VMA's?
Do any of you believe her story that she a wore a dress made of meat to protest the military's don't ask don't tell policy?
What does raw meat have to do with the military? It would have made more sense if she said she was protesting the inhumane treatment of animals.
I think she just wanted to shock people and liked the way that meat bikini felt when she wore it for Japan Vogue.
Her story was just an excuse she threw out for Ellen, Peta and her fans.
Disgusting Gaga.
Raw meat bikini
meat dress with guests.
Was it really meat or just realistic looking rubberized material? She does have an affinity with rubber. I'm thinking people might be surprised when things are revealed.
Neither designer Franc Fernandez nor Nicola Formichetti, who is Gaga's stylist, have returned requested comments on what materials was used to make the dress.
Gaga has said that she meant no disrespect by wearing the meat dress.
http://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/news/a276410/gaga-i-respect-vegetarians-and-vegans.html
GaGa: 'I respect vegetarians and vegans'
By Jennifer Still, Entertainment Reporter
Lady GaGa outdoes herself at the MTV Video Music Awards by wearing an outfit made out of raw meat
Lady GaGa has insisted that she meant no disrespect by wearing a controversial Franc Fernandez meat dress to the MTV Video Music Awards.
In an interview on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, the popstar - who also wore the piece on the cover of a recent magazine - explained that her approach to the outfit was meant to signify her experience as a human being and not to offend others.
"It's certainly no disrespect to anyone that's vegan or vegetarian," she said.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1647762/20100913/lady_gaga.jhtml
Lady Gaga wore several very interesting outfits to the VMAs on Sunday night. While she went glam in two creations (one by Alexander McQueen and one by Giorgio Armani), she was more grisly in her meat dress, shoes, bag and hat, designed by Franc Fernandez and put together by her frequent stylist, Nicola Formichetti.
The look had the fashion world buzzing by Monday morning, spawning blog headlines such as, "Was it offensive or awesome?"
"Too bad she didn't wear it with a grill," Nylon digital director Faran Krentcil told MTV News in an e-mail about the gutsy design that echoes the bikini Gaga wore on the cover of Vogue Hommes Japan.
I guess she has now familiarized the name Franc Fernandez. Franc was also responsible for the diamond crown and chest piece she wore in the Bad Romance clip.
How needs a mouse head? Gerard should track down Shinji Kosnishi and have him create a bat hat for him. Maybe he could add a ray gun in there somewhere for him.
Better still, he can have some fierce wigsmade by him, one for each member of the band.
Cher on Gaga's meat dress
Loved doing VMA's ! Lady Gaga rocked it ! Meat Dress was So INTERESTING Up Close & The way it was cut & Fitted to her body was AMAZII ...
as genius ! Back in the day it woulda been called " A Happening !" More Later
is meant to cause Thought , Conflict & discussion
The way it was cut & fitted to her body was AMAZING ! Meat purse was genius ! As Art piece it was astonishing ! No moral Judgement ! I ...
modern art elicits discussion, introspection & conflict ! Everyone's talking about it! BINGO !
http://twitter.com/cher
Not only has she has she introduced her fans to the fashion of Fernandez. Her personal sylist has a new swanky job in high fashion.
Paris-based fashion house Thierry Mugler has tapped Lady Gaga's stylist, Nicola Formichetti, as creative director for its women's and menswear labels.
The label said in a statement Monday that Formichetti, who is also fashion director with Vogue Hommes Japan, is to begin with the fall-winter 2011-2012 collections.
"modern art elicits discussion, introspection & conflict ! Everyone's talking about it! BINGO !
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After reading that I think maybe MCR should have Fernandez design meat masks and costumes for them. Using meat from animals found in the desert.
The mouse head and rayguns are stupid and silly. The raw meat is art that elicits discussion, introspection & conflict.
Jimmy Urine should wear a raw meat loincloth on his next tour.
/ sarcasm
lol
Imagine what the reaction would have been if the mousehead in the MCR zone video had been wearing holsters and boots made of raw meat.
I wonder if anybody here would have quoted or said these things about MCR.
genius ! Back in the day it woulda been called " A Happening !" More Later
is meant to cause Thought , Conflict & discussion
The way it was cut & fitted to her body was AMAZING ! Meat purse was genius ! As Art piece it was astonishing ! No moral Judgement ! I ...
modern art elicits discussion, introspection & conflict ! Everyone's talking about it! BINGO !
Jimmy Urine's art is to make his audience laugh about fags, bitches and c's."Art" for the really common man/woman.
I'm not wearing red meat in fall-winter 2011-2012 no matter how popular it becomes because of Gaga, her fans and her stylist.
Leather fits and smells much better than red meat.
And art made of red meat is art for the uncommon man and woman 6:46?
You could be right about that.
So does Angel perfume by Mugler. Lucky Nicola to score that job.
Leather is dead skin. Only three degrees away from raw meat.
Jimmy Urine should wear a raw meat loincloth on his next tour.
He could burn his pubes right off. Then he'll have raw meat!
I personally think the raw meat dress was disgusting. I think Lady Gaga is getting to the point where her shenanigans overshadow her talent.
The mouse head and rayguns are stupid and silly. The raw meat is art that elicits discussion, introspection & conflict.
I think both are stupid and silly. I think Gaga was just pulling the explanation of the meat dress out of her ass.
She's starting to get on my nerves with her pretention and and attitude of over self-importance.
Seeing as how MSI's derogatory and misogynistic lyrics are often a subject here, I wanted to post this interesting choral piece that someone showed me today.
Sociologist Michael Kimmel passed along a fantastic and entertaining example of resistance. In the video below, a Columbia University a cappella group sings Dr. Dre’s Bitches Ain’t Shit. The appropriation of the song works on so many levels: the all heavily-white, all-female group, the sweet choral arrangement, the pastel prep fashion, the strategically placed tennis rackets. They use race, class, and gender contradictions to force us to see and hear the song in a new way. All serve to mock the original, taking the teeth out of the language at the same time that they expose it as grossly misogynistic. Awesome.
I think that the comments that follow it are just as interesting, especially the ones that wonder if this project actually uses irony to turn the grossly misogynistic lyrics back on the writer, or if it misses the mark and instead just exempts (mostly) white, upper-class females from the original lyrics?
It made me think of MSI because their lyrics are both misogynistic and racist, and there are some comments down in the middle there about what happens when a white man sings about n*ggers and bitches.
What do you guys think?
I think that you are the perfect example of racism and sexism.
You have an obvious problem with white people and men. Especially white men.
Why do you bring up skin color and race so much?
Can't you just see people as people?
"I think Lady Gaga is getting to the point where her shenanigans overshadow her talent.\
"
I agree. I think the pressure of being a supastah is getting to her.
She's forgotten what really matters.
Substance over style and talent over shock value.
The world is suffering right now.
More than ever.
Did she really need 3 different outfits costing tens of thousands of $$$ each for one night? Raw meat or not.
It wasn't just a disgusting display of meat. It was a disgusting display of excess in troubled times.
http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity-news/amazing-story-kings-leon-being-complete-and-utter-arseholes48866
I think that you are the perfect example of racism and sexism.
You have an obvious problem with white people and men. Especially white men.
Why do you bring up skin color and race so much?
Can't you just see people as people?
I think you're incredibly naive to think people are not judged by a good majority of the population despite their denial, this way. I also think you have a problem with Kapunua and opinionated females.
I agree. I think the pressure of being a supastah is getting to her.
She's forgotten what really matters.
Substance over style and talent over shock value.
The circle of people she is surrounded by do not think in these terms, She needs to know just as easily as she can create controversy it can all easily backfire.
There should be a supastah skool 101 for these people. It's easy to lose touch with common sense once you reach this level. Unfortunately the people that always are around them are either trying to get their piece of the action or slice of their fame.
IF KOL have developed big head syndrome they are no different from MCR. Maybe they will find a z class band with play hangs with and the vocalist can marry an imbecile.
There should be a supastah skool 101 for these people. It's easy to lose touch with common sense once you reach this level. Unfortunately the people that always are around them are either trying to get their piece of the action or slice of their fame.
^This
The thing is it's so embarrassing for the celebs, because us normal folk can see they have lost the plot long before they do. And yes, we are pointing and laughing, and maybe shaking our heads and sighing too.
The brilliant can end up looking like fools.
The thing is it's so embarrassing for the celebs
I meant to say, we are so embarrassed for the celebs. They don't see it until way later.
The thing you have to remember about KOL is that they are huge in the UK. So huge, in fact, that the tabloids actually print made-up stories about them.
The dudes from Kasabian are always complaining to the press about some other band who are bigger than they are. I remember when it was MCR. Now it's KOL.
I've met the guys from KOL twice. Granted, it was a long time ago before they got really, really famous, but they are the kind of guys who will come out to the bar and get drunk with you.
I imagine they do have some over-the-top security these days because they are so huge, but I doubt that a lot of the crap in that less than credible article happened.
After watching the video you posted, Kapunua, I can see how some of the kids who defend MSI could say that JU is using irony when he comes onstage and sings songs with the lyrics he writes. After all, he's a skinny, funny-looking white guy who looks like he used to get beat up a lot. It's about as incongruous for him to be singing about bitches, hos, and N*ggas as it is to see those white, upper middle class white girls doing it.
Maybe I could believe that was true if JU hadn't gone out of his way to deny that his band has a message. I think he does it for shock and nothing more.
Anonymous said...
There should be a supastah skool 101 for these people. It's easy to lose touch with common sense once you reach this level. Unfortunately the people that always are around them are either trying to get their piece of the action or slice of their fame.
September 14, 2010 1:38 PM
That is all too true. Unfortunately.
Most of them are good, decent people who get caught up in the lifestyle. The fleeting fame and more fleeting fortune.
They are surrounded by yes (wo)men and enablers. They lose touch with reality and those who try to ground them are often cast aside in favor of those who will continue to inflate their egos.
It's not only celebrities and supastaahs that it happens to. I've seen it happen to common people who aren't called out on their egotistical bullshit. Who are never made to answer for the mistakes they have made.
It can happen to anyone who allows Ego to get in the way of common sense and respect for other tastes, beliefs and opinions.
They forget the silver rule.
The world does not revolve around thee.
No matter what you think or believe you can bet your life that 1/2 of the world will disagree with you and see things differently.
Respect is the key. Disagreeing respectfully is key.
Maybe I could believe that was true if JU hadn't gone out of his way to deny that his band has a message. I think he does it for shock and nothing more.
I respectfully disagree. You shouldn't confuse a statement with a collective band message.
Look what happened to MCR when their heartfelt, simple statements were turned into some mega message. When a few honest statements were turned into the band's image.
Then look at what some of the fans turned them into when they couldn't live up to that perfect image.
When fans discovered that the members of MCR was human just like the rest of us. That they were guys who liked boobs, sex and women just like every other straight guy or lesbian woman out there.
I think JU was very smart in saying his band didn't have a message. I think he was smart in just being an entertainer and not a spokesman for any cause.
The dudes from Kasabian are always complaining to the press about some other band who are bigger than they are.
Those are the guys who need to come up with an image or a message. It might get them fucked long enough to stop talking trash about musicians who are more successful than they are.
Is there a successful band out there that Kasabian hasn't trash talked?
After watching the video you posted, Kapunua, I can see how some of the kids who defend MSI could say that JU is using irony when he comes onstage and sings songs with the lyrics he writes. After all, he's a skinny, funny-looking white guy who looks like he used to get beat up a lot. It's about as incongruous for him to be singing about bitches, hos, and N*ggas as it is to see those white, upper middle class white girls doing it.
I disagree. To me, he looks like your basic privileged--yes, white male--taking advantage of the fact that, let's face it, he can pretty much get away with anything. And therefore he can throw around those derogatory terms. It's not incongruous; it's actually entirely in line with that kind of mindset. "Huh huh look at me, I can say whatever the hell I want, women are bitches, you effing n*ggers, watch me bend the rules and I don't care who I have to insult to get your attention."
It doesn't matter if he's skinny (huh?) or looks like he got beat up. The hate message is the same as Dr. Dre's from that song.
My mana'o, anyway.
You sound like one of those bleeding hearts who only likes minorities. THAT IS RACIST.
^ And you sound like Rush Limbough.
Look what happened to MCR when their heartfelt, simple statements were turned into some mega message. When a few honest statements were turned into the band's image.
Maybe they started that way, but the band played up this image. I'm guessing their "advisers" thought it was a good idea as well. No use sulking about something considering when it was all going well and bringing in the sales it was fine, then when it all became a huge self made strait jacket whining about it.
Then look at what some of the fans turned them into when they couldn't live up to that perfect image.
No sorry, they did act like a pack of twits hanging around another pack of twits.
When fans discovered that the members of MCR was human just like the rest of us. That they were guys who liked boobs, sex and women just like every other straight guy or lesbian woman out there.
Um, you know what? I would they were strange if they didn't like anything sexual cuz it's kinda normal.
HOWEVER
Your average person that goes to work has to display a certain amount of professionalism in their work AT work. Now I know you're going to say that they're in the entertainment industry and it's different. Not that different that they have to maintain the people that support them: their fans, which do come and go. But to piss off a huge segment and damage your "brand" is pretty stupid and not good business.
I think JU was very smart in saying his band didn't have a message. I think he was smart in just being an entertainer and not a spokesman for any cause.
Are you for reals dude? Kidding.
I believe JU when he said he was just interested in the money, but then his dimwit bassist stated in a fangirl interview the real meaning of the lyrics behind Panty Shot implying they have been a band with their own message and points to make, all along!
She's not thought of as a dimwit for nothing.
And someone who can't take the heat for stupid choices she made all by herself.
Lol @ that Kings of Leon article. So what if they won't share their toilets? I wouldn't share my toilets either.
I'd also like to add that the intro to Radioactive makes a great ringtone. I put it on my iphone yesterday and I've already had tons of people asking me what it is.
KOL intros and outros (is that a word?) have always made good ringtones. I've had the instrumental at the end of Milk on my phone for two years. I'll use something different for a little while but then I always go back to it. :)
If MCR or MSI refused to share their showers and toilets with some lesser known bands all of you would have a field day calling them names like divas, douchenozzles and, my personal favorite, ass headed rodeo clowns. Why is it okay for KOL to be jerks but MCR always has to be perfect or you attack them?
my personal favorite, ass headed rodeo clowns
My fav too, and it suits em.
If MCR or MSI refused to share their showers and toilets with some lesser known bands all of you would have a field day calling them names
Why on earth would MCR or MSI refuse to let other bands use their showers, seeing as how they never use them themselves?
"You sound like one of those bleeding hearts who only likes minorities. THAT IS RACIST."
Funny, you sound like an ignorant idiot.
Look what happened to MCR when their heartfelt, simple statements were turned into some mega message. When a few honest statements were turned into the band's image.
What heartfelt, simple statements are you referring to, exactly? The ones in the music? The ones about coming back from the dead? The ones about killing your girlfriend and throwing her body down a well? The one about dying from cancer?
I never saw any great 'statement' or message in MCR's music. The only inspirational lyrics they ever wrote were maybe the 'I am not afraid to keep on living' or 'take my fucking hand and never be afraid again', but even so, given the juxtaposition of the other songs on the albums, with their violent content, they didn't seem all that inspirational.
The only time I ever got any sense of a message or greater purpose (or even a 'statement') from MCR was when Gerard talked in interviews or gave speeches at the shows, and Gerard's 'statements' were never simple nor do I think they were 'heartfelt'. It seemed to me that he was blatantly telling the fans his band had a 'message'.
The 'save your life' b.s. came directly from the band itself. If they got tired of trying to live up to that image, they have no one to blame but themselves.
I don't understand all these fans of MCR defending JU for using the N word, because its used as "irony", but these same people were the first to crucify Eliza for using it in reference to her friend. I'm not saying she should have said it, but there is an obvious difference in her not thinking before she speaks, and JU spending time to string offensive words together for the sake of shock value. This is the part of MCR fans I just don't understand.
This is the part of MCR fans I just don't understand.
I agree. Although I do remember there were a lot of fans who used to defend Eliza back in the day too.
my personal favorite, ass headed rodeo clowns
*takes a bow* Why thank you! I'm quite fond of that one myself. Made it up with a friend one day. ^_^
I think it suits their entire crew quite nicely. :)
Danger Days: True Lives Of The Fabulous Killjoys
Apparently the name of the album got leaked.
I thought Gerard wasn't going to mix comics with music.
It's possible that the "leaked" title is a red herring. They did that before with TBP. There were a couple of fake titles with that one -- "The Five of Us Are Dying" and "The Rise and Fall of My Chemical Romance". I'm pretty sure that Gerard was the one who told people in the press about those, although I don't see how anyone could have possibly taken the Rise and Fall one seriously -- but they did.
It wouldn't surprise me if the new comic book thing fell through and Gerard decided to nick the title for the new MCR record. Wasn't he collaborating with another writer and and a female artist on that comic? Maybe it went the way of The Breakfast Monkey and Gerard threw some kind of diva fit and backed out over something that didn't go his way and then used the title just to be vindictive.
Lol, Danger Days. I keep thinking Danger Mouse for some reason.
God, I hope this is the title because it's the lamest thing I ever heard.
That mouse in the vid Gerard posted could very well be the "Danger Mouse!"
Although he looks more like a cross between the gay Teletubbie (was it Tinky Winky?) and old school Mickey Mouse on crack.
Oh, I just thought of the other thing it reminded me of. You remember those scary rabbits from that Stone Temple Pilots video a few years back? Sour Girl, I think it was called?
*goes to find link*
Rabid Telebunnies from Hell.
At least we had Scot Weiland and Buffy the Vampire Slayer to look at in this video. And at least these bunnies are creepy. Gerard's mouse is just ridiculous looking.
From the Rolling Stone: The new MCR album is full of synth-happy, technicolor pop tunes with a dance beat LOL!
From the Rolling Stone: The new MCR album is full of synth-happy, technicolor pop tunes with a dance beat LOL!
Maybe they'll take JU on tour with them. He'll be the new 5th member of MCR. Who needs a drummer. They can always use a backing track for that. And Gerard will be able to lip sync because of his Mouse Head.
Link to MCR's Rolling Stone article
MCR = pop? Wow, I never thought that they will sink this low.
So, Gerard wrote a bunch of synth-pop dance tunes, probably influenced by JU and Lady Gaga, but to keep the current fans from losing their shit, he came up with this post-apocalyptic "concept" of a "party at the end of the world" in an attempt to tie the whole thing together and prevent a wide-spread exodus from the fandom.
Meanwhile, fans are thinking this is going to be a return to Bullets type punk record with a bunch of dystopian themes.
Woo boy. Ima need some popcorn for this one.
MCR = pop? Wow, I never thought that they will sink this low.
Well, they got mouths to feed and mortgages to pay and pop is what's selling now.
Okay so wait.
When Gerard was talking about the earlier incarnation of the record, he said that the music was so incredible that it made everything they'd ever done before it totally irrelevant. Now he says it was boring and essentially crap?
So if he was making up lies about how good that record was, why should anyone believe him about this record?
When Gerard was talking about the earlier incarnation of the record, he said that the music was so incredible that it made everything they'd ever done before it totally irrelevant
Just like he did on TBP. I bet you that is the reason Bob quit. I guess Bob didn't want to dance to synth-happy, technicolor pop tunes with a dance beat. Pass on the popcorn! LOL!
I can't believe they would rip off Gaga.
MCR = pop?
MCR = poop
Yeah cause Gaga invented synths, electro, techo pop and dancing.
Maybe they're now channeling Gary instead of Iggy.
Who's Gary?
Gary
Here is my Trans Am I feel safest of all, I can lock all my doors from post apocalyptic gigantic spiders in the California desert 2019, it's the only way to live in Trans Am's
nah, nah, nah...
Yeah cause Gaga invented synths, electro, techo pop and dancing.
No, she didn't, but she is phenomenally popular right now and is currently making a killing in an idustry where most artists are floundering and struggling to keep up their lifestyles.
It's pretty obvious that MCR is taking a page out of her book and trying to cash in on the type of music that she's selling.
*industry
I didn't think it was possible, but this whole "secret code transmission thing" has proven to be an even bigger disappointment than "What is The Black Parade" did.
Fans must be trying very hard to hide their disappointment, just like me and my friends did back during the TBP reveal.
So glad I'm not part of that shit anymore.
"Synth-happy, technicolor pop tunes, complete with unabashed dance beat."
Sounds like MSI to me.
MCR were only ever a boy band. I know people here took them seriously, even if they don't now, but I never saw them as anything but lightweight with a few catchy tunes. If they now go techno or whatever then meh! They are not going to set the music world alight regardless what kind of music they produce.
I bet WBR told them that pop is in now, and urged them to scrap what they've done and write pop material instead. Fucking sellouts.
They look "colourful" in that picture.
I bet JU and his new band will be the support for MCR on their next tour.
"We were just trying to be America's young rock band"
Well, aren't you guys a rock band already?
OH WAIT.
What happened to all their Robert Smith inspired photos in Nylon Mag and Death before Disco? Lol now they wanna dance!
Pretty soon they'll ditch their instruments and dance like boybands.
Pretty soon they'll ditch their instruments and dance like boybands.
This, I've gotta see.
Now they're urging fans to dress more colorful?
"Burn the black! You all need to fucking shine tonight!"
"Black is death. We draw our lines in color motha fucka. Turn the lights on quick before the fucking plug gets pulled."
I never thought that this day would come. LOL.
I can just see the next video they make. All dressed the same and all with under processed hair.
I can just see the next video they make. All dressed the same and all with under processed hair.
Yeah, and all wearing Hawaiian shirts.
Referring to the Rolling Stones scan:
That is not Frank. WTF MCR.
LOL! It's their new drummer!
They're adding some color to their lives. What's wrong with that?
People get so sick of black and white all the time.
http://www.rocksound.tv/news/article/my-chemical-romance-album-coming-in-november
The new drummer has a nice ass if that's him with the mouse head in the video. I think it's def him in the RS picture. No way that's Frank.
Isn't it expensive to scrap a whole record and start all over again? Who's their producer this time?
Is Matt Cortez bacK?
Who's their producer this time?
Jake Shears
Isn't it expensive to scrap a whole record and start all over again?
It's not cheap. But they do have that 1st one recorded if they ever want to release the music from that one.
Is Matt Cortez bacK?
He's got a nice ass too.
I think that picture was taken at Comic Con. Gerard, Mikey and Ray were there, but Frank was home with his pregnant wife. So, they just got some dude in a mask to take a picture with them so they could pass him off as Frank.
I guess they forgot how short Frank is. They should have had the guy squat a little and cover up his arms.
For the next tour they will have a group of dancers on stage.
For the next tour they will have a group of dancers on stage.
Hahaha! Please yes.
The wall behind them in the RS shot is pretty interesting.
I thought so too 7:50. I just wish I could see more of it.
For the next tour they will have a group of dancers on stage.
So that's Gerard's next ploy for when he runs out of breath? He has dancers dancing around him.
Gerard can be the male Britney. He can prance around stage, lip syncing but changing his outfit every 15 minutes, hoping that no one will notice he's not really singing because they'll be so dazzled by his outfits.
the "guy" in the rolling stone picture looks like a girl to me. maybe it's just the jacket, but "he" looks like he has a very thin neck, boobs and hips.
maybe they're bringing a girl into the band? maybe lindsey is going to lend her backbending skills to the hubby's band. maybe she'll pretend play drums while doing lap dances and backbends even. the possibilities, people!
The jacket is def too big for the person in the mask. It does look like there could be some boobs. Maybe it is Lindsey.
Am I the only person who thinks the concept of a post-apocalyptic dance party is ridiculous?
I guess I've just read one too many novels where the survivors are starving and/or insane and become hardened, murderous and cannibalistic and where women and children are considered fair game for anyone who wants to rape them.
I get Prince's 1999, because the party he's talking about happens before the holocaust. Not so much the after-party idea.
where women and children are considered fair game for anyone who wants to rape them.
Slightly built, young-ish, androgynous looking males too. Like, you know, Gerard, Mikey and Frank? I don't think they'd have much to party about.
MCR run Bartertown.
But haven't they been using that slogan ever since the website changed over a year ago? If this concept is new, why did they have that slogan on before when they were doing the "Stooges influenced" record?
Or is Gerard lying. Again?
MCR run Bartertown.
Lol. More like, MCR get sold as slaves in Bartertown.
It's simple: Gerard wanted to do something then Warner listened to it and said lol no. They sent him back to re-invent the band and take it as far away from The Black Parade Emo Queen-wannabe as he could. The only concept he could come up with was one he'd been using around the Iggy Pop record, so he re-packaged that into a 'stunning' concept and made all the songs pop songs that might actually get them mainstream success in the USA.
We can all be monsters at the afterparty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Post-apocalyptic_video_games
112 pages of them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Post-apocalyptic_video_games
112 pages of them
Most all of them about killing bad guys or zombies. But killing.
I get that kids today spend much of their time pretend killing people/things on video games these days, but do we really need to be listening to music about it too?
These fans need to pick up a copy of The Road, by Cormac McCarthy.
Lol. Strike out the "these days" from my comment.
Redundant redundancy is redundant.
112 pages of them
GWay sure does know how to milk the things that interest people in the 13-17 year old age bracket.
It's fantasy. It's an escape from the real horrors that are happening today.
If people want to see the real horrors of the world all they have to do is watch the news or pick up a newspaper.
MCR run Bartertown.
Oh, they do now?
So loads of shit is powering up their town too.
It's fantasy. It's an escape from the real horrors that are happening today.
I agree, but I still don't get the appeal of making a record about it. And to be honest, I don't think a lot of the girls who listen to MCR will like it that much either. The fansites are not picking up as quickly as they did for TBP.
I think Gerard and co. are after the teenage boy market and who knows? Maybe they'll draw them in with this, but I kinda doubt it, considering that most males already have a preconceived notion about MCR and their music. The Watchmen thing didn't work, but like I said, who knows?
do we really need to be listening to music about it too?
Do we really need to be listening to music at all?
No. We don't need to but some people want to listen. Just like some people want to listen hip hop, gangsta rap, or country songs about cheating wives and husbands.
Do we really need to be listening to music at all?
No. We don't need to but some people want to listen. Just like some people want to listen hip hop, gangsta rap, or country songs about cheating wives and husbands.
I agree with you on that, and I should have phrased my question differently. What I meant to say was, "Do we really want to listen to music about it?"
And obviously, for some, the answer will be yes. But for me (and I daresay many old MCR fans), the answer will be no.
We'll just have to wait for the album and see, right?
I think Gerard and co. are after the teenage boy market and who knows?
Or maybe they made this record for them. To try something different. To experiment, push themselves and see what happens.
We'll just have to wait for the album and see, right?
Right.:)
Or maybe they made this record for them. To try something different. To experiment, push themselves and see what happens.
Yeah. I kinda doubt that. I guess only MCR knows.
Or maybe they made this record for them. To try something different. To experiment, push themselves and see what happens.
Maybe. A few years from now I can almost promise you that Gerard will be shit talking it in the media like he did TBP.
Or maybe they made this record for them. To try something different. To experiment, push themselves and see what happens.
That's what all bands eventually do. Some who have already nailed a successful style stick to their signature.
Maybe. A few years from now I can almost promise you that Gerard will be shit talking it in the media like he did TBP.
That's so stupid. If he had any brains he would talk about them more like they were learning/experimental phases, or a particular feeling at that time and place.
I know a lot of people who are freaking out over the synth pop thing right now. They won't say so on the fansites, but they're feeling pretty skeptical about this record. The people who liked the dirty punk sound of Revenge and didn't care for TBP are going to care even less about this. A lot of them are saying they probably won't even listen to it.
http://community.livejournal.com/chemicalromance/3288413.html#cutid1
I know a lot of people who are freaking out over the synth pop thing right now. They won't say so on the fansites, but they're feeling pretty skeptical about this record.
Yeah, I know. I expected a lot of my old lj friends from the old days to come back when news of the new cd started to break. None of them have. None. They're totally AWOL. LOL. Including me.
Yeah, I know. I expected a lot of my old lj friends from the old days to come back when news of the new cd started to break. None of them have. None. They're totally AWOL. LOL. Including me.
MTE!
I don't recognize any of the people on chemicalromance from my time on there. I wonder how many of them are posting here? You and I probably know each other anon @2:43. :)
I don't recognize any of the people on chemicalromance from my time on there.
I don't either except for maybe one or two of the girls who came around after PR, right about the time that Gerard and Lindsey got married. I think they were from South America and they started posting not long before or after the band toured over there. I did see that one girl who used to work for Warner (kareina?) and one girl who wrote fanfic and used to hang out a lot on fuckyou_mcr a couple of times but that's it. I never see salty or any of the stafoo people. I don't even see jennasie or any of the old mods or any of the zomg people anymore. I don't know if they've given up on the band or the fans. I think maybe a little of both?
I still have a lot of the old school fans on my friends list and I know a lot of people were upset over the Brian thing and I think when Bob left (got canned) it was the final nail for a lot of people. Myself included.
I think Gerard and co. are after the teenage boy market and who knows?
Yeah, i guess it made MCR look bad during PR when Gerard told "just the boys" to take off their shirt and there was maybe 4 or so guys in the audience.
There's no way that's a girl in that mask. Are you people blind?
Poor man in her life if that's a girl.
It was harder to tell in the fuzzy picture that was posted on lj earlier. The better resolution doesn't look like a girl at all.
Still not Frank.
4 or so guys in the audience.
Rly Lynn? That few guys went see Linkin Park and all the other bands playing. Could have sworn I saw more guys in those PR videos.
Not Frank but def not a girl.
Yeah, there were quite a few guys in the audience at PR, but unfortunately for Gerard, most of the ones I saw were heckling him.
Could have sworn I saw more guys in those PR videos.
Okay. Maybe 5 or 6. :)
And three of them were there because they had to take their sisters. ^_~
Lol. I could easily see how somebody might mistake Gerard as a girl in that pic though.
Most of the guys who were sitting near me went for drinks or the bathroom while MCR was onstage. I think the screaming was getting on their nerves. ;)
Lol, people always mistake Gerard for a girl. The first time my mom saw me looking at a picture of him she asked me, "Who is she?"
Oh well, at least this concept is not as stupid as Gerard bleaching his hair white and cutting it short so he can "look like a cancer patient".
I don't think that move will ever be topped for it's sheer dumbass-ness.
And still, really? No, nevermind...
Whut.
the new MCR?
Japan!!! Wasn't expecting that anon!
One of my favourite songs of all time is 'Ghosts' by Japan. It's a hauntingly beautiful song and I just adore David Sylvian's voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNYYRl86R4g&feature=related
Seems like I remember somebody talking at an MTV awards ceremony a few years back (in Europe or Japan? I can't remember which) about how he and his band were "not cool" and didn't play "electronic music" and wear colorful clothes, etc.
Hmmm...
Maybe he's decided he wants to sit at the "cool table" now.
All roads lead back to Japan. It would seem.
When Gerard decided to buy that notebook and start over.
I know I'm in the minority here but I hope it all works out better than expected for MCR.
Oh anon, I'm not wishing bad things for MCR, truly I'm not. It's just that I've lost patience with them you know. I admit I'd never heard of them before the Black Parade and in fact I stumbled upon them completely by accident. I really liked some of their songs, others not so much, but found I couldn't be bothered with all the shenanigans surrounding the band.
Truth be told I'll probably listen to their new cd. Part of me still hopes that I'll like it cos I really think that this band had a great sound.
Personally, I think that MCR are attempting to follow in "30 Seconds to Mars/synth-infused pop-music" footsteps in order to distance themselves from their "emo" designation.
Only, the style is relevant with 30STM, a natural progression. Those influences have been present in their music from the beginning.
Not that I trash a band's attempt at stretching their wings, but with MCR it seems a bit contrived, artificial.
I could see them trend toward classic rock or metal, not synth-pop.
I must also ask, how many times can gerard Way contradict himself in one lifetime.
If he shows up a smoke-free, vegan, riding a bike, holding a sign that says "Go Green, Stop Global Warming", I will laugh my ass off. But, I won't be surprised.
the new MCR?
September 17, 2010 7:20 AM
Well Gerard certainly got the blond hair thing going. That band reminds me of Flock of Seagulls. Surely they wouldn't go that far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyd5lAvjVAM
and I ran I ran so far away...
At WElshie and 1.45 i personally believe that they've become stuck in this concept album thing. Look at their last 3 albums, all concept albums. I too will probably listen to it. I must also admit i am somewhat excited for the next single, but thats due to it being released on my birthday.
Ima gonna have a guess here. They're wearing masks cuz their faces are horribly mutated from the apocalyptic fallout and they thought to keep with the theme they should dress up like the droogs minus the hats from Clockwork Orange
LOL.
Found another one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYliMlnkB8
I don't even know what to say.
http://www.mychemicalromance.com/trailer/
FRank looks like a dick!!
Look alive stoopid
It reminds me of Gaga's telephone clip. The presentation, the technicolor, the whole comic feel of the video. And the references to the American flag.
Don't see many teenage boys being interested in that.
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